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Out of Character.

Posted by ZagFor group 0
Zag
GM, 17 posts
Wed 23 Feb 2022
at 21:10
  • msg #1

Out of Character

With this game being solo-ish, there is less need for an OOC thread.  However, I'd still like people to be able to chat here, if you like, and I very much want you to post here if you plan to be away for more than a couple of days.  Anyway, anything goes here, so have at it.
Ricka Bellsmith
player, 1 post
Riffraff, street rat
I don't buy that
Fri 25 Feb 2022
at 16:37
  • msg #2

Out of Character

Well hello, my glorious colleagues / rivals / victims / whatever!  :D
Scarlet d'Ardelle
player, 2 posts
Barton's bastard daughter
Court lady in training
Fri 25 Feb 2022
at 16:44
  • msg #3

Out of Character

Oh, a commoner? How charming :)
Urvan Kron
player, 1 post
Fri 25 Feb 2022
at 16:55
  • msg #4

Out of Character

There's two of us commoners running around.

I suppose that's statistics for you. :)
Scarlet d'Ardelle
player, 3 posts
Barton's bastard daughter
Court lady in training
Fri 25 Feb 2022
at 16:56
  • msg #5

Out of Character

Mama! They are letting all the commoners in! Mamaaa!
Urvan Kron
player, 2 posts
Fri 25 Feb 2022
at 17:09
  • msg #6

Out of Character

If your prologue does not feature a musical chase scene Ricka, I am going to be very disappointed.

I suppose you could do one as well Scarlet, although I imagine wanting "more than this provincial life" would be more appropriate.
Ricka Bellsmith
player, 2 posts
Riffraff, street rat
I don't buy that
Fri 25 Feb 2022
at 17:12
  • msg #7

Out of Character

Gotta keep one jump ahead of the lawmen.  That's all, and that's no joke.
Scarlet d'Ardelle
player, 4 posts
Age:10 | Barton's bastard
Court lady in training
Fri 25 Feb 2022
at 17:13
  • msg #8

Out of Character

Bonjour, how are your families?
Urvan Kron
player, 3 posts
Fri 25 Feb 2022
at 17:22
  • msg #9

Out of Character

*Hums*

Be prepared for the coup of the century...

Be prepared for the murkiest scam...

La, la, la
Ricka Bellsmith
player, 3 posts
Riffraff, street rat
I don't buy that
Fri 25 Feb 2022
at 18:08
  • msg #10

Out of Character

Noooooooo...

Ooooonnnneeee....

... shoots like Barton, makes those beauts like Barton

no one's bastard's as haughty and cute as Barton's
Urvan Kron
player, 4 posts
Fri 25 Feb 2022
at 18:10
  • msg #11

Out of Character

Heeeeeee's especially good at pro, creating....
Scarlet d'Ardelle
player, 5 posts
Age:10 | Barton's bastard
Court lady in training
Fri 25 Feb 2022
at 18:10
  • msg #12

Re: Out of Character

Ricka Bellsmith:
Noooooooo...

Ooooonnnneeee....

... shoots like Barton, makes those beauts like Barton

no one's bastard's as haughty and cute as Barton's

xDDDDDDDDDDD

Oh my gosh, how didn't I think of that???? That's genius, Ricka! :D
Zag
GM, 24 posts
Fri 25 Feb 2022
at 18:13
  • msg #13

Out of Character

Just a little math for you all.

Barton is 25 years old, and Scarlet is 10, as we start.  Her mum is now 29.
Scarlet d'Ardelle
player, 6 posts
Age:10 | Barton's bastard
Court lady in training
Fri 25 Feb 2022
at 18:17
  • msg #14

Re: Out of Character

Zag:
Just a little math for you all.

Barton is 25 years old, and Scarlet is 10, as we start.  Her mum is now 29.

He was 15, she was 19,
Can I make it any more oooobvious...
Zag
GM, 26 posts
Fri 25 Feb 2022
at 18:24
  • msg #15

Out of Character

That's their ages when you were born.  Conception was 9 months sooner, which seems all the worse, to my humble sensibilities.
Scarlet d'Ardelle
player, 7 posts
Age:10 | Barton's bastard
Court lady in training
Fri 25 Feb 2022
at 18:40
  • msg #16

Out of Character

The worst. And on that note: Maybe I could humbly suggest we, let's say, start at age 12 instead of 10 and jump 2 years per level instead of 1, so at least by level 4 we're not minors? That would make things considerably less awkward, I think.
Zag
GM, 29 posts
Fri 25 Feb 2022
at 19:21
  • msg #17

Out of Character

Umm, yes.  Good point.  Certainly you should start at 12, and I'll bump Barton's age by a couple of years.
Ricka Bellsmith
player, 4 posts
Riffraff, street rat
I don't buy that
Fri 25 Feb 2022
at 23:24
  • msg #18

Out of Character

Zag:
Extra Feats
... the extra Feat all PCs have because of having a Flaw.

... where do I find Flaws?
Zag
GM, 31 posts
Sat 26 Feb 2022
at 02:30
  • msg #19

Out of Character

Sorry, that was a copy/paste error from a different game I used to run.
Zag
GM, 32 posts
Sat 26 Feb 2022
at 17:46
  • msg #20

Out of Character

@Urvon:  I am planning to wait to respond to your awesome post until the others have had a chance to respond to theirs.  I'm hoping to develop a similar rhythm in the stories, which will be important when you interact with each other, or with common NPCs.  I could have completely unrelated timelines for you each, since it will only matter when there is interaction, but I don't want to track world events separately.

I'm hoping you didn't intimidate the others with your post.  You did go straight through two different obstacles I had planned for you (below).  To the others: don't feel you're expected to write a similar tome.  Feel free to do so, but smaller posts with less activity is fine, too.

1. Dealing with the lack of light.  I knew your eyes would adjust, and there were candles, unused torches, a pitch pot, and a flint and steel available, or you could go on completely by touch as you did.

2. Finding the secret door.  I had a plan of making you roll for this, but then the whole story is in a quandary if you roll poorly.  I did have some contingencies such as saying that the door is actually easier to find by touch than by sight, allowing for another roll when forced to put your lights out.  Anyway, it's fine that you moved straight past this for this pre-story, but in general you should pause your narrative when something happens that you know will require a roll.  If you roll really well, you can go ahead an assume success and continue.  In the real game, I might have backed you up to that point, or possibly rolled for you and let that determine if I accept your continuation or roll it back.

This brings up a good point.  Which would people prefer in such a case?  Do you want to make your own rolls always?
This message was last edited by the GM at 17:48, Sat 26 Feb 2022.
Ricka Bellsmith
player, 5 posts
Riffraff, street rat
I don't buy that
Sat 26 Feb 2022
at 18:02
  • msg #21

Out of Character

I truly don't care which of us makes my rolls, random = random.  :)

Also I'm finishing up my sheet right now, I'll have it to you shortly and get an IC post up right after!
Urvan Kron
player, 6 posts
Sat 26 Feb 2022
at 18:21
  • msg #22

Out of Character

You are very kind.

I'll admit I had taken incorrect assumptions that this prelude was more of an exploratory narrative, an assumption that was perhaps later reinforced by the disclaimer in Scarlet's opening thread.

I'll make a point to avoid that in the future. Now that I know that the prelude is more of a living thing and less of a forgone conclusion, it does change things a bit. It will likely result in smaller more segmented sections as well when we bring in the dice.
Urvan Kron
player, 7 posts
Sat 26 Feb 2022
at 18:30
  • msg #23

Out of Character

I missed that last question.

Much like Ricka, I have. O preference. If it is convenient for the flow of things for you to roll please feel free to do so. If you wish to put it into my court, I'll happily roll them myself.
Zag
GM, 34 posts
Sat 26 Feb 2022
at 18:54
  • msg #24

Out of Character

Your assumption was not misplaced, because the outcome of these stories is a foregone conclusion.  I'm not sure how much that isn't true, though, of many other stories we'll have.  I certainly plan to put you in mortal danger, and I'm not always sure how you'll get out of it, but I expect that you will.  In any case, I'm not going to leave it such that a bad roll means you have to start a new character.  (If you do something god-awful stupid, however, that might mean you're dead.)
Urvan Kron
player, 9 posts
Sun 27 Feb 2022
at 16:16
  • msg #25

Out of Character

Nice work with the Hero Point Ricka.

Totally forgot about those.
Zag
GM, 38 posts
Sun 27 Feb 2022
at 19:11
  • msg #26

Out of Character

Yeah.  Especially because she correctly guessed that I'll be restoring all the hero points for the first real adventure.  You generally should be pretty profligate with them.  Your characters are intended to be the center of your respective stories, and, just like the main character in a book, have freakish luck when they really need it.  Hero Points are the mechanic to represent that.

(I actually have no idea for any of you whether your gender matches that of your character.  If you'd like to specify what pronoun to use for YOU, when talking about the player, feel free and I'll try to remember.)
This message was last edited by the GM at 19:14, Sun 27 Feb 2022.
Ricka Bellsmith
player, 8 posts
Riffraff, street rat
I don't buy that
Sun 27 Feb 2022
at 19:28
  • msg #27

Out of Character

Thanks!  I wasn't really trying to game the game though, just doing my thing  :)

(Also 'she' is correct for me OOC too.)
Ricka Bellsmith
player, 9 posts
Riffraff, street rat
I don't buy that
Sun 27 Feb 2022
at 22:21
  • msg #28

Out of Character

Scarlet d'Ardelle:
Scarlet d'Ardelle rolled 8 using 1d20+6.  Craft Clothing.

..ooof!  That's gonna hurt  xD
Scarlet d'Ardelle
player, 9 posts
Age:12 | Barton's bastard
Court lady in training
Sun 27 Feb 2022
at 22:22
  • msg #29

Out of Character

Yes, in retrospect, she wishes they did this with CGs instead of the old school wires...
Urvan Kron
player, 10 posts
Sun 27 Feb 2022
at 22:25
  • msg #30

Out of Character

Hey! At least I don't feel so bad about my own failure of an inaugural roll. ;)
Zag
GM, 42 posts
Mon 28 Feb 2022
at 03:18
  • msg #31

Out of Character

I'm a little curious if anyone caught the reference of the names Gideon and Angelique.  Anybody?
This message was last edited by the GM at 03:19, Mon 28 Feb 2022.
Ricka Bellsmith
player, 11 posts
Riffraff, street rat
I don't buy that
Mon 28 Feb 2022
at 03:29
  • msg #32

Out of Character

... umm...  I caught it now that I googled it, does that count?  :)
Zag
GM, 43 posts
Mon 28 Feb 2022
at 05:09
  • msg #33

Out of Character

I have to admit that I had to look up the names.  I was originally going to make some play on the name Bob Fosse (which I did not have to look up, but is the only choreographer I know) but Fob Bosse sounded awful.  That movie is Bob Fosse's autobiographical masterpiece.

Scarlet, don't read anything into the symbolism of Angelique.  Sure, she represents death and all, but don't let that deter you from anything you might have planned.  :-)
This message was last edited by the GM at 05:26, Mon 28 Feb 2022.
Urvan Kron
player, 12 posts
Tue 1 Mar 2022
at 02:12
  • msg #34

Out of Character

Really enjoying the variety in preludes here. Neat to see the same world through the eyes of a privileged girl at a dance recital, a street urchin fending off bullies, and a rural farm kid.
Zag
GM, 47 posts
Tue 1 Mar 2022
at 05:30
  • msg #35

Out of Character

Thanks!  I'm glad you're enjoying it.  I definitely am, too.

It has been quite unintentional, but I find myself writing in slightly different styles in the three different threads.  I am more flowery and descriptive in Scarlet's thread, more simple and chopped in Urvan's, and a bit darker in Ricka's.  It fits, and I'd almost like to say I was doing it on purpose, but that's not exactly the case.
Urvan Kron
player, 15 posts
Tue 1 Mar 2022
at 16:15
  • msg #36

Out of Character

Took a page out of Ricka's book for the Hero Point.

I'm glad you had the idea first because I likely would never have considered it.
Zag
GM, 50 posts
Tue 1 Mar 2022
at 16:37
  • msg #37

Re: Out of Character

I had originally planned that he would find you, but we can make this work.  After all, Iwo Behyd is a darn sight more observant and clever than the pompous and fastidious Kaarn.
Zag
GM, 51 posts
Tue 1 Mar 2022
at 16:47
  • msg #38

Out of Character

Oh!  I didn't mean to make his name so similar to your last name.  I was just vamping off the word "cane," being his distinguishing feature, and arrived at Kaarn.  I don't like them being that similar; I'll change it to Aarnik.
Zag
GM, 53 posts
Tue 1 Mar 2022
at 17:43
  • msg #39

Re: Out of Character

I realized something this morning.  While I put together different prelude adventures for you each, they were based on your own backstories and therefore different.  I'm not clever enough to come up with new and original trials for all three of you, and I plan to reuse them, having at least the same starting points for each.  Since some of them have plot twists that would diminish the story if you know it ahead of time, I am going to have to keep the threads private to just each player.  After everyone has finished a story, I'll open it up so you can see each other's approaches to the same problem, which will be interesting in entirely a different way.

tl;dr: I will be starting a new thread for each chapter for each PC, and the threads will be private.
Scarlet d'Ardelle
player, 12 posts
Age:12 | Barton's bastard
Court lady in training
Thu 3 Mar 2022
at 12:32
  • msg #40

Re: Out of Character

Quick note to say I'm loving the game but it's a hectic week. Will post on Saturday, sorry for the radio silence!
Ricka Bellsmith
player, 18 posts
Riffraff, street rat
I don't buy that
Fri 4 Mar 2022
at 09:35
  • msg #41

Re: Out of Character

Zag:
"How hot are you?" he asks.

"Dude, I'm ten years old, you creepy perv."
Zag
GM, 64 posts
Sat 5 Mar 2022
at 05:54
  • msg #42

Out of Character

My other vice, besides RPGs, is poker.  I'm a winning player, even though I don't get to play that often.  My 2021 spreadsheet shows me winning over $3400 in 68 hours of playing.  I've been waiting to play this year until we dropped down out of Stage 5 Covid risk, but we're finally down to Stage 3, so I got to play for the first time since last December.

I just booked the biggest win of my life.  Playing $1/$2, for 4.25 hours, I made $2615 profit!  As an hourly rate, it's not bad at all.  :-)
Urvan Kron
player, 22 posts
Sat 5 Mar 2022
at 05:56
  • msg #43

Out of Character

Congratulations!

I've never had a talent for gambling, but it sounds like you do!
Ricka Bellsmith
player, 21 posts
Riffraff, street rat
I don't buy that
Sat 5 Mar 2022
at 23:06
  • msg #44

Out of Character

17:04, Today: Ricka Bellsmith rolled 29 using 1d20+9.  Stealth.

I deem this roll to be very acceptable.
Zag
GM, 69 posts
Sun 6 Mar 2022
at 16:28
  • msg #45

Out of Character

A natural 20 on one of your best skills.  That will generally work.

Ricka Bellsmith:
... my hair is not orange, shitface.

Is it not?  You haven't posted a description, so I'm just going by your picture.

Note that the color we generally refer to as "redhead" is orange.  It's called red because in English we did not have a name for the color orange until the 17th century.  The color is actually named after the fruit, not the other way around.  I just found this, which I found interesting because I love etymology.  https://lithub.com/color-or-fr...etymology-of-orange/

Compare.

REDREDREDRREDREDRED
REDREDREDRREDREDRED

ORANGEORANGEORANGE
ORANGEORANGEORANGE


Same check with one that is not out of a bottle.  It's more obvious, here.


.
.
.
.
.
.
.
.
.
.
.
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REDREDREDRREDREDRED
REDREDREDRREDREDRED
REDREDREDRREDREDRED
REDREDREDRREDREDRED
REDREDREDRREDREDRED
REDREDREDRREDREDRED
REDREDREDRREDREDRED

ORANGEORANGEORANGE
ORANGEORANGEORANGE
ORANGEORANGEORANGE
ORANGEORANGEORANGE
ORANGEORANGEORANGE
ORANGEORANGEORANGE
ORANGEORANGEORANGE

This message was last edited by the GM at 16:45, Sun 06 Mar 2022.
Zag
GM, 70 posts
Sun 6 Mar 2022
at 17:02
  • msg #46

Out of Character

If you haven't guessed, I'm just vamping the threads for you two get-a-lifers :-) to allow Scarlet time to post.  All three are essentially one post from wrapping up and we'll go on to the chapter 1.
Urvan Kron
player, 25 posts
Sun 6 Mar 2022
at 18:18
  • msg #47

Out of Character

I figured as much.

Still, fun stuff!
Scarlet d'Ardelle
player, 14 posts
Age:12 | Barton's bastard
Court lady in training
Sun 6 Mar 2022
at 18:38
  • msg #48

Out of Character

Sorry guys, will get to it tomorrow, promised!
Scarlet d'Ardelle
player, 16 posts
Age:12 | Barton's bastard
Court lady in training
Sun 6 Mar 2022
at 18:51
  • msg #49

Out of Character

...Tomorrow is today!
Zag
GM, 75 posts
Sun 6 Mar 2022
at 21:04
  • msg #50

Out of Character

Everyone please respond in all the Chapter 1 threads that you can see.  Hopefully you only see your own, but I want to check that I have the groups set up correctly.  I see that thread groups are different from private groups, so I dodged that mistake.  :-)
Ricka Bellsmith
player, 24 posts
Riffraff, street rat
I don't buy that
Mon 7 Mar 2022
at 01:38
  • msg #51

Out of Character

A lot of natural redheads are a bit orangey, but still if you tell a redhead she has orange hair you're probably asking to get slapped  :D
Zag
GM, 80 posts
Mon 7 Mar 2022
at 05:16
  • msg #52

Out of Character

Well, Urvan's chapter 1 took me a lot longer than I expected, and now it is time for bed.  I'll get Ricka's and Scarlet's up tomorrow some time.
Zag
GM, 81 posts
Mon 7 Mar 2022
at 14:20
  • msg #53

Out of Character

@Urvan  A fine bit of writing, and I admit that I had left you altogether too much to which you had to react, but you didn't do anything.  You need to tell me your next steps, and maybe make a Gather Information roll (i.e. Diplomacy), or something appropriate to whatever action you take.
Urvan Kron
player, 29 posts
Mon 7 Mar 2022
at 14:36
  • msg #54

Out of Character

Cool, will do.

Was again not quite sure what sort of pacing you are going for, I'm learning your style, and I'm sure it will get a little smoother as we continue.
Zag
GM, 83 posts
Mon 7 Mar 2022
at 14:48
  • msg #55

Out of Character

It's all good.  That wasn't meant as a criticism, just a prompt.  Sorry if it came across that way.

@Ricka:  I realized that we didn't really wrap up your prologue.  Please respond to that, but I'll move forward on your Chapter 1, anyway.
This message was last edited by the GM at 14:50, Mon 07 Mar 2022.
Zag
GM, 91 posts
Tue 8 Mar 2022
at 22:33
  • msg #56

Out of Character

For one of the threads, I just posted a picture that is actually pretty large.  I exclusively use the responsive site for RPoL, so it doesn't matter that it is large, it just fits the screen.  However, I know that the "old" site made no effort to resize pictures, and it could be an issue on a smaller screen.  So my question is whether anyone cares.  (I had people who had an issue with this sort of thing in another game I ran some time ago.)  I can post just links rather than pictures, if that's easier for people.  Or just prompt you to use the responsive site, which I think is better anyway.  (That is r.rpol.net instead of rpol.net.  If you haven't tried it, you should!)

Comments?
This message was last edited by the GM at 22:34, Tue 08 Mar 2022.
Scarlet d'Ardelle
player, 20 posts
Age:12 | Barton's bastard
Court lady in training
Tue 8 Mar 2022
at 23:14
  • msg #57

Out of Character

I use the non-responsive (?) Site because I prefer a dark background, so if you could us links instead, that would be greatly appreciated.
Zag
GM, 93 posts
Wed 9 Mar 2022
at 22:28
  • msg #58

Out of Character

A couple of general notes on your current task.

1.  It is important that you befriend the animal(s), such that it/they trusts you.  I have a plan as to how I will evaluate the result, but even describing how I plan to do so would be too much of a hint.  As always, thinking of possible solutions that I did NOT think of will go a long way to success.

2.  This isn't *ONLY* a stealth mission.  If that's all you use, you will probably fail unless you are extraordinarily lucky.

3.  Just because your mentor refused to answer questions doesn't mean that you shouldn't ask other people, or find information elsewhere.

4.  You can fail this.  You won't die or anything, but trust me that you really do want to succeed.

5.  As always, look for Easter eggs in the names.  :-)
This message was last edited by the GM at 22:32, Wed 09 Mar 2022.
Scarlet d'Ardelle
player, 23 posts
Age:12 | Barton's bastard
Court lady in training
Thu 10 Mar 2022
at 21:31
  • msg #59

Out of Character

Zag:
Zaan, the steward's assistant

Acutus, head page

Gerroldivus (Gerro), young page who has befriended Urvan.

Lady Stilwell, the Master of Hounds.

Can I assume I know someone from this list? I mean, obviously not Urvan's new friend, but possibly Lady Stilwell, if that's well, still?
Zag
GM, 97 posts
Thu 10 Mar 2022
at 22:56
  • msg #60

Out of Character

It would be fine, except that they are nowhere near you.  You are at Castle Moresby, the home of the Rheams, whereas Urvan is at the Palace, in Olympia (which is near Mt Olympus).  Castle Moresby is in Epirus, though I have to admit that I haven't given much thought to where in Epirus.  If you'd like to choose whether it is on the coast or more central, I don't have a strong preference.  You will be visiting the Palace, but not until, I think, the third adventure.  I don't have specific plans for the others ever to come to Castle Moresby, but if we get past the first 3 adventures I'll have to come up with something, so that's likely.

The Rheams are actually much richer than the Lexagenols, and Castle Moresby is larger than the Palace, though not as large as the entire walled section referred to as the Palace Compound.  Moresby is a real castle, which means it has its protective walls as part of the structure, whereas the Palace does not, though the compound is walled.  (I'm kind of making this up as I go.  I only just learned that there is a difference between a Palace and a Castle, in that a Palace is not a defensive structure.  I had been referring to the two locations with those names, just thinking the words were synonyms.)

So there are certainly a steward, steward's assistant, a chamberlain, a head cook, cooking staff, cleaning staff, a head page, and other pages at Moresby.  Feel free to interact with them and even to name them, since I haven't yet.  Remember that Ashander Rheam, the Duke, is an extremely successful ruler, which is a big part of why Epirus is so successful financially.  I'm sure that he has hired competent staff.  That doesn't necessary mean that they are not greedy or have other weaknesses that could be exploited, if you had to.

Note the post right before the one you quoted.  Everybody should be aware that I am constantly editing the posts in the NPCs thread, adding any new ones that I think are worth remembering.
This message was last edited by the GM at 04:28, Fri 11 Mar 2022.
Ricka Bellsmith
player, 30 posts
Riffraff, street rat
I don't buy that
Fri 11 Mar 2022
at 17:05
  • msg #61

Re: Out of Character

Zag:
You haven't posted a description, so I'm just going by your picture.

Here's a better image of what I'm imagining Ricka looking like.  (In a few years of course.)

https://imgur.com/RbqHrcF
This message was last edited by the player at 17:06, Fri 11 Mar 2022.
Zag
GM, 100 posts
Fri 11 Mar 2022
at 17:45
  • msg #62

Re: Out of Character

Nice!

I played around with MapTool and made a map of the Palace Compound.  It's huge, so I'm only posting a link.

Map of the Palace Compound:  http://zag.net/Pathfinder/Ellada/palace.png

The red building is the Kennel.  The northwest section is the royal family area.  The central south area, where the scraggly road has a turnaround, is the kitchen.  The small buildings are mostly barracks, and also some private apartments.

Much of the larger structure is three and even four stories tall, so it is a big place.

I wouldn't have had everything so regimented -- i.e. all the buildings are perfectly north-south -- except that it's the only choice with MapTool, and I didn't want to bother learning something new.

I started putting in trees and bushes, but then decided not to bother.  So the few you see are not all of them.
This message was last edited by the GM at 18:21, Fri 11 Mar 2022.
Scarlet d'Ardelle
player, 24 posts
Age:12 | Barton's bastard
Court lady in training
Fri 11 Mar 2022
at 18:19
  • msg #63

Re: Out of Character

Ricka Bellsmith:
Here's a better image of what I'm imagining Ricka looking like.  (In a few years of course.)

Amazing orange hair! ;P

And how does Castle Moresby look like?
Zag
GM, 101 posts
Fri 11 Mar 2022
at 18:22
  • msg #64

Re: Out of Character

Scarlet d'Ardelle:
And how does Castle Moresby look like?

I'm get started on it, soon.  However, it is all one building, so there's less to see at the equivalent level.
Urvan Kron
player, 52 posts
Thu 24 Mar 2022
at 14:16
  • msg #65

Re: Out of Character

How's everybody holding up? Not looking for spoilers of course but just wondering how people are getting along.

Urvan is encountering an array of skill challenges that are not exactly his forte, it's good for him though...builds character.
Ricka Bellsmith
player, 37 posts
Riffraff, street rat
I don't buy that
Thu 24 Mar 2022
at 14:21
  • msg #66

Re: Out of Character

... I'm having a little bit of trouble keeping up posting in all of my games this week!  But I'll be trying to catch up this afternoon.  :)
Scarlet d'Ardelle
player, 39 posts
Age:12 | Barton's bastard
Court lady in training
Thu 24 Mar 2022
at 14:34
  • msg #67

Re: Out of Character

Slowly finding my stride, I think?

My rolls do routinely suck, but I'm used to it :P I compensate by always playing to my strengths. I'm already having to find roundabout ways to go about some things for lack of some key skills, but so far it feels great.
Zag
GM, 144 posts
Fri 25 Mar 2022
at 13:11
  • msg #68

Out of Character

Ricka Bellsmith:
... I'm having a little bit of trouble keeping up posting in all of my games this week!  But I'll be trying to catch up this afternoon.  :)

Clearly you're having trouble prioritizing, which I completely understand.  I'll help you out with a rule of thumb that I learned many years ago.  Any games with the initials SA should be your highest priority.  :-)
Zag
GM, 145 posts
Fri 25 Mar 2022
at 21:28
  • msg #69

Out of Character

@Urvan, I really like how you role-played your disastrous Diplomacy roll.  But you finished with Urvan walking away, head hanging in shame.  That is, you finished with the ball still in your court.  You need to try or do something else for me to have the world react to you.  If you need ideas, feel free to post your predicament here, if you'd like ideas from the other players, because this little mini-quest I only threw in there to add a little tension to the task you were trying to do, and it isn't likely to be re-used with the others.  I'll just make up some other annoying little side task for them.  :-)
Zag
GM, 147 posts
Sun 27 Mar 2022
at 15:57
  • msg #70

Out of Character

It's been awfully quiet here.  I'm waiting for all of you.
Urvan Kron
player, 55 posts
Age:10 | Big For His Age
Page Boy
Sun 27 Mar 2022
at 16:03
  • msg #71

Out of Character

Busy weekend on my end. Hoping to get a post up soon.
Urvan Kron
player, 56 posts
Age:10 | Big For His Age
Page Boy
Sun 27 Mar 2022
at 16:37
  • msg #72

Out of Character

I think I will take you up on your offer though, to phone a friend.

Urvan has been asked by a member of a visiting delegation to find some ribbon of a particular color.

The Palace seamstress is unfortunately occupied with the Queen, and as such is under strict guard. He has already pestered the one chambermaid he knows and she was the one who recommended the seamstress.

He is having trouble thinking of how to obtain the ribbon now, and given that it is a fairly low urgency request he is only willing to risk so much to accomplish it.

Any ideas?
Scarlet d'Ardelle
player, 41 posts
Age:12 | Barton's bastard
Court lady in training
Sun 27 Mar 2022
at 17:18
  • msg #73

Out of Character

Find someone wearing that color and sneakily cut a bit of their dress.
Zag
GM, 149 posts
Sun 27 Mar 2022
at 20:50
  • msg #74

Out of Character

LOL.

Just to clarify, that was not Veronique that told you about the seamstress, but just one of the older pages.  You didn't know where to find Veronique.

You're definitely right that this request is pretty low urgency.  I just threw it in there without a whole lot of thought.  I will point out, however, that you were also told where the seamstress's room is.
Zag
GM, 171 posts
Thu 7 Apr 2022
at 20:17
  • msg #75

Out of Character

I am curious how to help people stay active in the game.

I realize that I tend to make pretty long posts, and that might be making people feel like even a single post might be too much to get caught up with.  If that is putting people off, let me know.  From my point of view, I don't really want to make posts where the response by the player is "I do the obvious thing," and then they are waiting for me, again.  But if this approach is putting people off, I'm glad to change it.

The other possibility is that people are feeling lonely, and my decision to keep the threads private is making people more reluctant to engage.  I don't really care if you get ideas, or partial ideas from each other, and if everyone would prefer to see all the threads, that is fine with me.  (I will warn the two ladies that keeping up with Urvan's post rate will be a whole different form of daunting challenge.  He and I are both get-a-lifers.)

I don't really expect everyone to have the sort of posting rate that Urvan and I maintain.  I'm at my computer all day for work, anyway, and often have breaks that I have nothing to do, plus I'm at my computer most evenings while I'm watching TV or whatever, so several posts a day is not unusual for me.  I'm not expecting or even wanting that level of engagement, but I'd like to see something more like 2 or 3 posts a week, at least.  It isn't quite as important as it would be in a game where everyone is waiting, but I feel that you lose continuity if you're not involved at least that often.

Let me know if there is something I can do to make it easier to engage.  Especially if that thing is to remove the restrictions so everyone can see all the threads.  OTOH, speak up if you prefer the current approach; I don't want to make a change that makes one person happy at the expense of others.
This message was last edited by the GM at 01:04, Fri 08 Apr 2022.
Scarlet d'Ardelle
player, 47 posts
Age:12 | Barton's bastard
Court lady in training
Thu 7 Apr 2022
at 20:39
  • msg #76

Out of Character

I appreciate your concern, Zag, that's a very constructive approach. Personally my main problem is that I'm mad busy with Real Life shit these days (way more than usual), and low key that I am currently a bit lost in my own plot and I'm not finding any clear leads to pursue. Been kind of bumbling around the place for my latest few posts; not saying that's your fault, perhaps I'm missing something very obvious. The way I'm trying to do it is, I'm eyeing that NPC list and trying to think of ways any of them might help or affect my mission, and frankly coming up with a blank, so I'm just bumbling around like I said, chatting to people trying to sink my teeth on something, so to speak. My 2 cents.
Zag
GM, 172 posts
Fri 8 Apr 2022
at 00:47
  • msg #77

Out of Character

Actually, you're on top of two pretty good breakthroughs, though one of them you probably have no inkling of, yet, and I think you're doing extremely well.  Going to visit Lady Moranno was a superb idea, and she will be helpful.  What you'll learn is that she is actually very lonely, mostly because she isn't interested in the sort of vapid socialite nonsense that your mother thrives in.  However, that's the only social life available to most noble ladies in the castle.

I tried to give hints that she is wise (she immediately saw through your pretense, but was not offended by it) and that she is kind (by how she treats the servants).  You can open up to her a bit without revealing secrets, and she will respect you on your terms.  Remember why you went to her in the first place, to learn a little something about the Petteia club that her husband and Sir Fischbacher participate in three nights a week.

BTW, she and her husband are based on my wife and myself.  :-)  You will probably learn eventually that he is the Duke's brilliant engineer (i.e. a huge nerd), designing weapons for the castle, devices for improving road construction, etc.  My wife (whose actual name is Maryann) is somewhat isolated and lonely, because she is in a wheelchair and can't go anywhere unless I drive her.  However, I work full time so her opportunities are limited (as is her strength for such outings).  She is wise in the way that overcoming genuine adversity makes one -- I often tell her she should write a book titled "How to Be Your Own Lifeboat."  She is also an artist (painting, quilting, and jewelry) and loves teaching young people about art and about life.  She has two proteges right now (one whom we pay to help her in her studio, the other is just a friend who wanted to learn to quilt) and has had many over the years.

The other breakthrough will find you, and needs another day to complete, but it has totally been triggered by your actions.  You'll know it when you see it.

I hope I didn't take too much liberty in saying that it was a novel concept to Scarlet that the servants had names and lives.  Since you are only just moving out from under the wing of your mother, and it would certainly be her attitude that servants are just nameless automatons, I figured that the attitude was something you simply grew up with and never thought to question before.
This message was last edited by the GM at 15:15, Fri 08 Apr 2022.
Scarlet d'Ardelle
player, 48 posts
Age:12 | Barton's bastard
Court lady in training
Tue 12 Apr 2022
at 11:49
  • msg #78

Out of Character

So there's no poisoning them, then? Boooring ;P

IRL has been crazy lately (I am starting to forget when was the last time it wasn't...), sorry for the absence.
Zag
GM, 179 posts
Tue 12 Apr 2022
at 20:31
  • msg #79

Out of Character

I'm glad you're back, and I hope life eases up for you (if that's what you want).

Still no word from Ricka.  It's a shame, because she is "winning" if there is such a thing.  She is the only one of you three who has actually had one positive interaction with her animal.
Zag
GM, 181 posts
Wed 13 Apr 2022
at 12:13
  • msg #80

Out of Character

(I can't believe I'm up this early.  I got up at 6:30 am to interview a candidate in India for our team, but the candidate cancelled.  I could have slept in. )

Anyway, Urvan, you've done it again.  :-)  What you wrote was a really great chapter ending, but the ball is still in your court to start the new chapter.
Urvan Kron
player, 81 posts
Age:10 | Big For His Age
Page Boy
Wed 13 Apr 2022
at 18:36
  • msg #81

Out of Character

Sounds good, again, did not want to take too many liberties. Will post again soon hopefully.
Urvan Kron
player, 83 posts
Age:10 | Big For His Age
Page Boy
Sat 16 Apr 2022
at 04:47
  • msg #82

Out of Character

Very busy day on my end.

Will try to get a post up tomorrow.
Zag
GM, 201 posts
Sun 24 Apr 2022
at 18:52
  • msg #83

Out of Character

OK.  You've each had one positive interaction with your animal, so I'm going to move along a little more quickly.  For at least a couple of visits, we can just assume success and you can pursue your secondary plotline.
Scarlet d'Ardelle
player, 60 posts
Age:12 | Barton's bastard
Court lady in training
Mon 25 Apr 2022
at 20:17
  • msg #84

Out of Character

So do we jump a few days ahead, or...?
Zag
GM, 202 posts
Tue 26 Apr 2022
at 02:17
  • msg #85

Out of Character

Hmm, well, you, especially can't, because something is going to happen.  :-)  (Don't worry, it is something good, well, sort of.)

But you can tell me what you plan to do over the next day or so, and just include another visit to your kitty.  I honestly have no idea what you might do to ruin Alyssa's life.  You also might want to take some action to secure a source of food, and you might consider what else cats like.
This message had punctuation tweaked by the GM at 17:25, Sat 09 July 2022.
Zag
GM, 223 posts
Fri 3 Jun 2022
at 12:32
  • msg #86

Re: Out of Character

Sorry, work has been crazy.
Scarlet d'Ardelle
player, 81 posts
Age:12 | Barton's bastard
Court lady in training
Fri 3 Jun 2022
at 14:03
  • msg #87

Re: Out of Character

No worries:)
Zag
GM, 242 posts
Sat 9 Jul 2022
at 17:23
  • msg #88

Re: Out of Character

@Scarlet
I added you to the private groups for the other two threads, if you have any desire to peruse them.

I still feel a little sad that Urvan disappeared, and I suspect it was because he felt uncomfortable that I referred to him as a get-a-lifer.  I would be disingenuous to say that I didn't mean it disparagingly, because it was a little bit of poking fun at him and myself, but I thought he would just laugh at it as I would if someone said it of me.

I had toyed with the idea of trying to get replacements, but decided that it would just cause more frustration.  Someone who takes over an existing character is not going to be all that invested, and will likely disappear, as well.
Urvan Kron
player, 91 posts
Age:10 | Big For His Age
Page Boy
Sat 9 Jul 2022
at 18:12
  • msg #89

Re: Out of Character

I'm still here, and no worries at all. Didn't even notice honestly.

This just seemed to drop off the radar.

Are you planning on continuing?
Scarlet d'Ardelle
player, 99 posts
Age:12 | Barton's bastard
Court lady in training
Sat 9 Jul 2022
at 18:19
  • msg #90

Re: Out of Character

Yay, you're still here! :D
Zag
GM, 244 posts
Sat 9 Jul 2022
at 21:17
  • msg #91

Re: Out of Character

Oh!  I guess you haven't seen that we've been continuing apace, because all the posts were in a thread you can't see.  We've never stopped, and I certainly have plans to continue.  If you want to continue, we'll have to move quickly to get you caught up.
This message was last edited by the GM at 21:19, Sat 09 July 2022.
Urvan Kron
player, 92 posts
Age:10 | Big For His Age
Page Boy
Sat 9 Jul 2022
at 21:40
  • msg #92

Re: Out of Character

Well, that does make sense.

Were you planning on a time jump? Or just picking right back up?
Zag
GM, 245 posts
Sat 9 Jul 2022
at 21:54
  • msg #93

Out of Character

Well, you're side quest is completed, and there doesn't need to be more on that in this chapter.  No doubt, the vile priest will grow to be a nemesis, but you've accomplished your chapter 1 victory over him.  Continue on, and we'll be caught up quickly.
Zag
GM, 256 posts
Tue 12 Jul 2022
at 23:02
  • msg #94

Out of Character

I've made both the Chapter 1 threads available to everyone, if you'd like to see what the other character has been up to.  Also, I added another Level 2 ability that you might want to consider.  You don't have to choose your L2 ability, yet, if you don't want to.
Zag
GM, 277 posts
Fri 22 Jul 2022
at 13:01
  • msg #95

Out of Character

OK.  Urvan is done with Chapter 1, and Scarlet is just one post away.  Scarlet, you can go ahead and describe your success taking a kitten, and announce its gender and name.

I have a few ideas for the next chapter, but I'm looking for feedback.  First, are you having fun and do you want to continue?  Second, what sort of adventure would you like?  I could stick with the solo missions, though the next one will have real danger, where there will be some genuine fighting, and failing a stealth or bluff roll might mean significantly more.  (This is true of all of the choices, but more so for the solo mission.)

The other choices are a competitive mission and a cooperative mission.  Both of these mean that posting will often wait not just for me, but for the other player.

The competitive one does not quite mean that only one of you will "succeed," because the goals are not quite incompatible.  There are levels of success, where the "full success" goals are incompatible, but you could both have partial successes or at least moral victories.  (I say this as if I have it all planned out.  I have only the bones planned, and I trust I'll come up with something on the fly, which I usually do.  But that represents the goal I am shooting for.)  It may involve fighting each other, which isn't a good idea for Scarlet, but, obviously, it won't be to the death.
Urvan Kron
player, 110 posts
Age:10 | Big For His Age
Page Boy
Sat 23 Jul 2022
at 15:17
  • msg #96

Out of Character

Definitely having a good time.

Being an introductory chapter, I think everything was fun and you have set things up well going forward.

I'm excited to delve a little deeper into the whole situation, to begin making choices, even fairly simple ones as the characters grow.

To begin to glimpse the political, religious and military factors that are being weighed out in this world you have put together.

As for the next chapter, at least getting to meet one another would be nice I think, so my vote is probably not worth solo but with either semi-cooperative or competitive.
This message was last edited by the player at 15:18, Sat 23 July 2022.
Scarlet d'Ardelle
player, 112 posts
Age:12 | Barton's bastard
Court lady in training
Sun 24 Jul 2022
at 07:41
  • msg #97

Out of Character

Sorry for the tardiness, traveling today so probably won't be able to post. I'm having a great time so far, and I think I'd prefer more social/politicking adventures, but nothing against some stealth and fighting, although Scarlet is not very suited (yet?) To it.
Zag
GM, 278 posts
Sun 24 Jul 2022
at 16:36
  • msg #98

Out of Character

No problem -- real life always takes precedence -- but thanks for the note.  I didn't really think you had ghosted us with only your last post remaining in chapter 1, but you never know.  I hope your traveling is something fun and not work, or worse.

Since Scarlet didn't express an opinion on solo v. interactive, we'll go with interactive.  Of course, I won't tell you if it is cooperative or competitive.  It might even change half way through.  :-)

You should fully level up to level 2 now.  Your stats should reflect an 18-point buy, though if you don't use all 3 additional points the unused will be available next level.  (I'd be surprised if you are saving points now, but I could see it at our penultimate level up, assuming we get there.)  I wouldn't mind a write-up of what you are doing in the intervening two years.  Obviously, training and working with your now-mature animal, but also other skills and abilities.

Choose the tricks your animal has learned:  You should choose 6 plus 1/4 of your Handle Animal Skill, rounded normally, plus 2 more if you took the Animal Companion ability.

You also should have three traits and three feats.  Remember that I'm pretty easy on traits:  They don't have to come from the official list but can just be made up as long as they are similar power level to existing traits.  (Roughly, +1 to one skill all the time, or +2 in specialized cases, and that skill is always a class skill.  Also, there are some odd twists on skills, such as this skill becomes INT-based instead of CHA-based, though that has to make sense.)



I've given each of you a very specialized ability, that we should codify as a trait, I guess, so this is a fourth trait.

Urvan:  +4 to Survival for the purpose of waking yourself up at a particular time in the night, and you can take a 10 on this skill (assuming you are planning this as you go to sleep and you have potable water available).  Waking yourself up in a one-hour window is DC 16; waking yourself up in a half-hour window is DC 20.  (This was from memory, so feel free to correct me if I said something else in the thread.)

Scarlet: +4 to Sense Motive in figuring out who in a group is the culprit/inside agent/spy where you set up a 'big reveal' show that is credible (and fun, of course).

I don't know if you are a fan of the show The Mentalist -- not only am I a big fan, but I even went to a show in Vegas starring the man who invented the concept for the series (and played the Patrick Jane character in the pilot which never aired).  Here is a picture of myself and my wife with him after the show.  The purple-haired woman in a wheelchair is the prototype for Lady Maranno in Scarlet's Chapter 1 thread.  Anyway, that show is where I was first introduced to the concept, but I have since done a little research and found that it is a real thing.



Urvan, I realized that you still have your character as 10 years old.  At Scarlet's suggestion, we changed the starting point to 12 years old because she expects her character to get into some adult situations as part of her training, and we don't want to run afoul of the RPoL character age restrictions.  You can assume you were 12 all through chapter one or leave it at 10, though beating up a soldier at age 10 did seem like quite a stretch.  (I don't really care either way, given your background; your people probably mature very early.  However, it does push back by one level when you might get into adult situations, if you ever care to do so.)
This message was last edited by the GM at 16:59, Sun 24 July 2022.
Urvan Kron
player, 111 posts
Age:10 | Big For His Age
Page Boy
Sun 24 Jul 2022
at 16:47
  • msg #99

Out of Character

Sounds good to me.

I will try to get his sheet updated some time today to fully reflect Level 2.
Zag
GM, 279 posts
Sun 24 Jul 2022
at 16:55
  • msg #100

Out of Character

Note that I changed the previous note above since you posted.  I had hit 'Post' prematurely.
This message was last edited by the GM at 16:56, Sun 24 July 2022.
Urvan Kron
player, 112 posts
Age:10 | Big For His Age
Page Boy
Sun 24 Jul 2022
at 17:02
  • msg #101

Out of Character

Ah, an oversight on my part. He should have been 12. Good catch.
Urvan Kron
player, 113 posts
Age:10 | Big For His Age
Page Boy
Wed 27 Jul 2022
at 21:25
  • msg #102

Out of Character

Nice. I will hopefully be able to update and post this evening.
Zag
GM, 284 posts
Sun 31 Jul 2022
at 15:33
  • msg #103

Out of Character

@Urvan, Sorry, but Scarlet's been very busy at work, and is a relative newcomer to PathFinder and all its bazillions of choices one has to make in character creation and leveling up.  We've been narrowing down the choices in PMs, so there is progress, but still not quite there.

Also, you only have 5 tricks chosen for your dog.  It's fine if you want to save them for later, but you do have 8 available.  (6 for int 2 animal, 1 for Handle Animal of 5, 2 for animal companion, per my rules adjustment)  Note that I will not retcon these on the fly.  That is, you can't come upon a situation where you'd like to have the dog track by scent and, at that point, decide that you already taught him that.  I will frequently retcon some choices, but the rules are very specific about the time to train a dog, and I'm going to use those.

I recommend you consider Track, Menace, and Intimidate and (OMG, you're missing this!) don't forget Come.  He will naturally follow you in all non-stress situation, but if you decide it is time to run from a fight, you will need that to get him to stop fighting and follow.  You will be getting 2 (maybe 3)  more tricks on your next level up and you won't have time to train the dog before then, so there's not a lot of incentive to save them.

@Scarlet, You can go ahead and post an intro, which will probably help solidify in your mind the role-playing direction you want to go in.  I'm a big believer in bending the rules to fit the role-playing when the latter is interesting, so we'll work it out.  (I already have an idea for a new feat you can take next level up to use the Profession that you are specializing in, but there's no point to taking it this level.)

Of course, Urvan, this goes for you, too.  If you made role-playing choices because the rules didn't support something you wanted to do, then definitely ask and I'll work out a mechanic for it.  You are possibly more constrained because you already know the rules, so you unconsciously limit yourself without even realizing it.
This message was last edited by the GM at 15:36, Sun 31 July 2022.
Zag
GM, 288 posts
Thu 4 Aug 2022
at 00:34
  • msg #104

Out of Character

I always wonder if you* spot the origins of the names I create.  (This is made harder because many don't have origins.)  For instance, all of these do.
a large older (15 years) tom named Gatópardos
a 5-year-old queen named Kompsótita
Archon, a big, healthy tom
Sir Heger Ledath, a devilishly handsome, powerfully built man who is rumored to be a favorite for overall winner in the Games


* I suppose now that I live in Texas I should use the pronoun "y'all" here, but I just can't.
Zag
GM, 298 posts
Fri 12 Aug 2022
at 20:37
  • msg #105

Out of Character

Waiting on you Urvan.

@Scarlet, You're doing a great job resisting having any sympathy for Erikus.  :-)
Urvan Kron
player, 120 posts
Age:10 | Big For His Age
Page Boy
Fri 12 Aug 2022
at 20:48
  • msg #106

Out of Character

Urvan decided not to risk a written message in that previous post, with his current plan being to hide and seek out Iwo when the man is free from his responsibilities
Scarlet d'Ardelle
player, 123 posts
Age:14 | Barton's bastard
Young court lady
Fri 12 Aug 2022
at 20:57
  • msg #107

Out of Character

Yeeeeah, for some reason Scarlet is shaping up to be a very mean bitch, she has this deep, deep well of bitterness. My PC's tends to be nicer, sarcastic but not unkind. She's a piece of work.
Zag
GM, 310 posts
Wed 24 Aug 2022
at 14:22
  • msg #108

Out of Character

Bump.  Waiting on both of you.
Zag
GM, 311 posts
Sat 27 Aug 2022
at 15:06
  • msg #109

Out of Character

Well, it seems Urvan is gone again.  I had wanted to have the two of you bump into each other as he is leaving the palace and you are heading towards it.  I'm going to move him forward, but if he returns I'll let him retcon the meeting with the stablehand, since it is going to be fairly important to his future but it doesn't really affect much now.
Scarlet d'Ardelle
player, 132 posts
Age:14 | Barton's bastard
Young court lady
Sun 28 Aug 2022
at 19:04
  • msg #110

Out of Character

You sure you didn't mix up the names? McAnally sounds a lot like a brothel...
Zag
GM, 316 posts
Sun 28 Aug 2022
at 19:09
  • msg #111

Re: Out of Character

LOL.   You're putting the emphasis on the wrong syllable, clearly.  Get your head out of the gutter.

Those names are all from books I have loved (except for one from a TV show I have loved).  I wouldn't want to besmirch Harry Dresden by saying that his favorite bar is now a brothel.
Zag
GM, 317 posts
Thu 1 Sep 2022
at 01:38
  • msg #112

Re: Out of Character

Waiting on you folks.
Scarlet d'Ardelle
player, 136 posts
Age:14 | Barton's bastard
Young court lady
Wed 7 Sep 2022
at 15:11
  • msg #113

Re: Out of Character

Perhaps a good moment to ask about money? How much do I have, how much does one earn, what are the prices like...?
Zag
GM, 321 posts
Wed 7 Sep 2022
at 20:59
  • msg #114

Re: Out of Character

A good question!  You can assume that you have 30-35gp on hand.  You've been warned not to carry too much, and not to have a heavy bag that jingles temptingly.  So you probably have two platinum pieces, hidden individually, maybe 8 gold in a moneybelt or perhaps your shoes, and the rest in gold and silver in a pouch for easy access.

Think of a gold as about $15 in today's currency and buying power, so a platinum coin is $150.  I'm not sure what your financial situation is, but I don't usually walk around with $500 on me, but I would expect that someone at Scarlet's level of nobility would.

Most of the wagers you've seen being made are for a gold or two, where the largest you've seen was for 5 gold and the smallest was for a single silver.
This message was last edited by the GM at 02:46, Thu 08 Sept 2022.
Scarlet d'Ardelle
player, 137 posts
Age:14 | Barton's bastard
Young court lady
Thu 15 Sep 2022
at 19:28
  • msg #115

Re: Out of Character

That's extremely cheap gold (a pet peeve of mine with fantasy currency), but ok. Idk, $150 hardly feels like it merits special securing? Like it's not that unusual for me to have a few £50 notes in my wallet, and if credit cards weren't a thing I'd have to carry many more. On the other hand, I assume Scarlet's cash comes from a Ducal allowance, meaning that while her lifestyle might be luxurious by anyone's standards (Duke pays for that), she probably doesn't have that much readily available cash. At least that's my idea of Renaissance courts and pensions/handouts.

Also those gamblers are very small-time for nobles? 75 maximum bet is hardly high rolling.
Zag
GM, 322 posts
Fri 16 Sep 2022
at 03:03
  • msg #116

Re: Out of Character

Right.  This is not a high rollers sort of place, more working class.  The rougher bars also have a crowd with more ready cash.

I am actually a pretty serious poker player, and I frequently have $4-5k in my pockets going to or from the card house.  But otherwise, I rarely have more than a few hundred.  I suppose my equivalences are a little low, too, because I expect you could get a reasonably nice meal for a couple of silver pieces.  Perhaps raise those estimates a bit.

Anyway, you're right about Scarlet having a fixed allowance that is in the gold pieces per week.  I don't really want to make an issue of money in the game, though.  This bit was really for role-playing and forming a connection between you and Heger.  ~~~~~  I just went and read your post.  OMG, he's handsome, but there's no need to drool.  :-)




Edit:  Wait.  Did you mean to have Scarlet misspeak and bet against Heger?  You said all the money on Sir Angus, who is his opponent.
This message was last edited by the GM at 03:16, Fri 16 Sept 2022.
Scarlet d'Ardelle
player, 139 posts
Age:14 | Barton's bastard
Young court lady
Fri 16 Sep 2022
at 07:14
  • msg #117

Re: Out of Character

Oh no, that's what happens when I post late at night, I met sir Heger, of course. Thanks for the warning, I fixed the post.

It's not that Heger is necessarily super hot (I assume *Scarlet* is comparatively much sexier), it's just that she's having her first teenage infatuation. In layer years she'll probably develop into a cynical heartbreaker, so it's fun to have her fall head over heels about some boy now.

Anyway sorry for nitpicking on the money issue, I had incorrectly assumed this place was a posher Inn where the nobles of the retinue amused themselves with extravagant wagers. The fact it's more blue-collar makes it only more exotic to Scarlet.
Zag
GM, 323 posts
Fri 16 Sep 2022
at 12:22
  • msg #118

Out of Character

This is the Terre Haute of the country:  an intersection of shipping lanes but no other reason for existence.  There are no theaters, no museums, no culture to speak of, and definitely no posh inns.  I think I said that this was the nicest, but it is more true to say that this one is the safest.  The others are much more mobbed up and therefore attract a much rougher crowd.

BTW, did you figure out the origin of his name?  Heger Ledath is a transposition of Heath Ledger, from his role in A Knight's TaleThis picture is exactly how I see him.
This message was last edited by the GM at 13:19, Fri 16 Sept 2022.
Zag
GM, 328 posts
Fri 23 Sep 2022
at 12:40
  • msg #119

Out of Character

Scarlet d'Ardelle:
"I'm the daughter of a Duke, he's some street ruffian," sounds like an argument-ending proposition.

Yeah, I know, it's true that you will never fall afoul of the law in this sort of encounter.  BTW, you're a granddaughter, and they think so highly of you that no one thought to arrange a room for you (or maybe something else ????).  So don't assume that trick will work against other nobility, even those you technically outrank.

Scarlet d'Ardelle:
Remind me how intiiative worked? And is he still alive?

It's just a d20 plus your initiative bonus, which I've corrected to +3 on your sheet.  Also, you forgot to add your additional d6 for your sneak attack damage.  I've added a separate roll script on your sheet.

Edit:  Oh, yeah, I forgot that you have an additional +2 initiative and +1 damage because of Adrenaline Rush.

Edit 2:  BTW, I had intended for Urvan to observe this ambush attempt, and was going to make the encounter a lot harder, expecting him to come to your defense.  As it is, this is not a trivial encounter like the one with the bullies.  Note that he was attacking at -4 because he was trying to make a lethal attack with a nonlethal weapon.  I'm not trying to push you to run.  You did get a pretty great start on the encounter so you'd have to be pretty unlucky at this point to end up dead.
This message was last edited by the GM at 14:17, Fri 23 Sept 2022.
Scarlet d'Ardelle
player, 146 posts
Age:14 | Barton's bastard
Young court lady
Sun 25 Sep 2022
at 20:14
  • msg #120

Out of Character

Yeah, no, I know the actual royals don't GAF about me, but the commoners don't know that ;P

Hummm looks like time to run...
Scarlet d'Ardelle
player, 151 posts
Age:14 | Barton's bastard
Young court lady
Fri 30 Sep 2022
at 18:32
  • msg #121

Out of Character

Lemme try this...

Say, a nice dinner is £40. So a silver is £20. So a gold piece is 200 (I suppose we're doing the decimal thing). This isn't too crazy since Google says the price of gold is around 50 per gram, and a gold coin would weight more than 4g.

So Scarlet bets 200 X 33 = 6,600 (now that's more like nobles) and walks out with 33,000. Fair to say the bookie doesn't like her much (maybe he was the one who sent those two after her?).

Does this make more monetary sense?
This message was last edited by the player at 18:37, Fri 30 Sept 2022.
Zag
GM, 334 posts
Fri 30 Sep 2022
at 22:29
  • msg #122

Out of Character

Hmmm.  Somewhere in between, I think.  I don't see you getting a fairly nice dinner for 2 SP, it would be more like 8-10 SP.  Remember that you are generally tipping pages a silver or two.  But I was way too low, I think.

I hadn't really thought about the bookie being the one to send the crooks after you; I just thought that they were people who observed you accepting the big windfall.  But that doesn't mean I would shift to that being "the truth" if it became a good part of the narrative.
This message was last edited by the GM at 14:02, Sat 01 Oct 2022.
Scarlet d'Ardelle
player, 163 posts
Age:14 | Barton's bastard
Young court lady
Tue 25 Oct 2022
at 20:35
  • msg #123

Out of Character

Sorry for the wait, super busy days. Will post soon
.
Zag
GM, 348 posts
Tue 25 Oct 2022
at 23:05
  • msg #124

Out of Character

It's not a huge deal.  I'm in a couple of games, so I'm on RPoL all the time, anyway, and there's no one else waiting.  We can just continue this game at whatever pace it continues.
Zag
GM, 352 posts
Thu 29 Dec 2022
at 18:03
  • msg #125

Out of Character

Out of the blue, Ricka has returned, but expects a very slow posting rate.  Urvan and Scarlet, you're both welcome to jump back in any time.
Urvan Kron
player, 127 posts
Age:10 | Big For His Age
Page Boy
Thu 29 Dec 2022
at 18:11
  • msg #126

Out of Character

A little busy with the new year coming, but I will likely be able to resume soon if the offer stands.
Zag
GM, 353 posts
Thu 29 Dec 2022
at 19:20
  • msg #127

Out of Character

It will always stand.  I'm on RPoL every day, anyway, because of games I am playing in.  I'm always glad to see a new post in here.
Scarlet d'Ardelle
player, 166 posts
Age:14 | Barton's bastard
Young court lady
Thu 29 Dec 2022
at 20:19
  • msg #128

Out of Character

Yess, overdue apologies here, I keep meaning to return to this amazing game, but RL always gets in the way. Expect a post from me in hte following days, and thank you!
Zag
GM, 359 posts
Wed 4 Jan 2023
at 00:19
  • msg #129

Out of Character

@Scarlet:  In your post, you mentioned that you feel naked without your rapier, which was a good call because somebody would be bound to put it together if you had it.  However, you do still have that longsword which practically no one knows you have.  It would be unusual for a girl so young as Naiada to wear a longsword, and would cause talk, but it would be talk about that unusual island girl, not about 'who is that really?'

Take a look at the map (which I've uploaded as the primary game map), Naiada is supposed to be from Corcyra, which is an island off of Epirus.  (Recall your grandfather is Duke of Epirus.)  Your "cousin," now the Countess Brennalia Delfini, was originally from there but is now the lady of ...(hmm, it seems I didn't name the County, but it is definitely part of Epirus.  We'll just call the county Delfini, as well, even though Counts often don't always take the county name as theirs)  Corcyra is not part of Epirus, but is its own Duchy, though clearly not nearly as powerful as Epirus.

Your mild love interest from your previous chapter, Xavin, was from Gemlia, a coastal county which was also part of Epirus, and they had pirates that they had to deal with.  No doubt the history of Corcyra is tied up with pirates, as well, with some amount of maybe they were fighting the pirates, maybe they WERE the pirates.  Feel free to play with that.
Scarlet d'Ardelle
player, 169 posts
Age:14 | Barton's bastard
"Naiada Penapolous"
Wed 4 Jan 2023
at 17:42
  • msg #130

Out of Character

I'm not sure Girl with Longsword would look all that different from Girl with Rapier, unless the observer knows more about swords than he knows about girls. I guess you're trying to help me stay armed for whatever comes next, but I think unless Scarlet can carry her rapier (visibly or hidden), her best bet would be something easily concealable, i.e. a dagger or stiletto. Or razor fan. Or poisoned hair needle.

Thanks for the geography notes, those are a very very welcome reminder, I didn't remember half of it.
Zag
GM, 361 posts
Thu 5 Jan 2023
at 19:56
  • msg #131

Out of Character

Fair enough.  You can always assume you have a dagger; that wouldn't be terribly unusual, even for a teenager.

Scarlet d'Ardelle:
The baroness turns out to be a heavy drinking lass, who looks at Scarlet over the rim of her third glass of the morning.

"Oh, so you are the... one the lady said would come. Take a seat, and a glass, mmm? I love your hair. At least you're not a blonde, thank the Olympus. I hate blondes. They strut around like 'hey, I'm blonde, look at my tits'. Seriously. I have not met one who wasn't a slut. Pardon my Gallic, I'm not acting now, you know... Oh, acting! By Hera, that's the other thing I hate. Actresses, dancers, the whole lot! I don't know why we should tolerate such a disreputable entourage in court... well, I do. The men, of course! Any excuse to peep an ankle here, half a boob there, all with the flimsy excuse of a ballet or play! Outrageous. And to think some nobleladies are willing to let her daughters take up such rotten activities! Awful. Anyway. What do you do in your free time?"

Scarlet purses her lips and smiles, thinly.


Awesome!  That post is why I play these games.  I was laughing all the way through it.
Urvan Kron
player, 133 posts
Age:10 | Big For His Age
Page Boy
Thu 5 Jan 2023
at 20:08
  • msg #132

Out of Character

Hah, I smiled at that one as well.

Rough run with the dice lately!
Scarlet d'Ardelle
player, 171 posts
Age:14 | Barton's bastard
"Naiada Penapolous"
Thu 5 Jan 2023
at 20:19
  • msg #133

Out of Character

Hehe he, glad you enjoyed it. Honestly it was a bit much for the roll, but I hate it when I ask the dice for promptd6and they give you middling results. I was looking for something dramatic, either great or awful, dammit!
Ricka Bellsmith
player, 38 posts
Riffraff, street rat
I don't buy that
Fri 6 Jan 2023
at 15:02
  • msg #134

Re: Out of Character

Zag:
Out of the blue, Ricka has returned, but expects a very slow posting rate.  Urvan and Scarlet, you're both welcome to jump back in any time.

Ricka has -almost- returned!  :)  This week is the last one I'm covering a bunch of extra duties at work due to vacations, but definitely expect posting from me over the weekend once I've caught up on sleep and so on.
Scarlet d'Ardelle
player, 173 posts
Age:14 | Barton's bastard
"Naiada Penapolous"
Fri 6 Jan 2023
at 15:03
  • msg #135

Re: Out of Character

So it wasn't a rickaroll!
Ricka Bellsmith
player, 39 posts
Riffraff, street rat
I don't buy that
Fri 6 Jan 2023
at 15:03
  • msg #136

Re: Out of Character

BOOOOOOOOOOOO HISSSSSSSSSSSS
Zag
GM, 368 posts
Sat 7 Jan 2023
at 17:34
  • msg #137

Re: Out of Character

Ricka Bellsmith:
Ricka has -almost- returned!  :)  This week is the last one I'm covering a bunch of extra duties at work due to vacations, but definitely expect posting from me over the weekend once I've caught up on sleep and so on.

I'm looking forward to it.  I have to admit that I find the avatar you use to be dizzyingly beautiful.  But that's not the only reason, oh no.  :-)

The wrap up that I put in your chapter 1 thread was a little long, but I had to fit in your free trait plus a little more on your nemesis plus you getting your eaglet.  Feel free to expand on the nemesis story, perhaps leave a hook or two that you find interesting.

Which reminds me, Scarlet needs a new nemesis, or maybe I need to figure out how to bring Alyssa back into the picture.  But Scarlet demolished her so severely...
This message was last edited by the GM at 17:35, Sat 07 Jan 2023.
Scarlet d'Ardelle
player, 174 posts
Age:14 | Barton's bastard
"Naiada Penapolous"
Sat 7 Jan 2023
at 17:50
  • msg #138

Re: Out of Character

Oh, do bring her back. I'll enjoy kicking her into the mud again :D
Zag
GM, 370 posts
Sat 7 Jan 2023
at 18:30
  • msg #139

Re: Out of Character

I've added to the Abilities thread, including editing the older posts to define the advanced versions of the level 1 abilities.  If these changes makes someone desperately want to retcon their choices, we can talk about it.  At the worst, I'll put a transition period on the change from what you selected to what you'd like to change to.
Ricka Bellsmith
player, 40 posts
Riffraff, street rat
I don't buy that
Mon 9 Jan 2023
at 00:54
  • msg #140

Re: Out of Character

Zag:
I'm looking forward to it.  I have to admit that I find the avatar you use to be dizzyingly beautiful.  But that's not the only reason, oh no.  :-)

Typing now!  Do you mean her RPoL portrait or the jpeg I put in her cast list page?  Or both?  :)

Zag:
The wrap up that I put in your chapter 1 thread was a little long, but I had to fit in your free trait plus a little more on your nemesis plus you getting your eaglet.  Feel free to expand on the nemesis story, perhaps leave a hook or two that you find interesting.

We're setting up Blahvert the Brat as a nemesis character?  I'm not sure in Ricka's mind he'd be quite at Nemesis status, he'd be more just an annoying jerk who she'd just as soon forget about and never think of again, not someone meriting got-to-get-even type thoughts.  :)
Zag
GM, 373 posts
Mon 9 Jan 2023
at 05:36
  • msg #141

Re: Out of Character

Zag
GM, 375 posts
Mon 9 Jan 2023
at 15:15
  • msg #142

Re: Out of Character

@Urvan, I wasn't even sure you (that is, you the character) would recognize the term Mormolyce.  From your back story, I thought that your parents had kept all that from you.  However, Iwo did save a lot of the books from your parents' library, so perhaps you read about it in the last two years.  It's fine either way you want to play it.

You do want to put Gratham down though.  You'll have serious issues if he is able to report back to Erastoo.  (If anybody richly deserves it, it's a sexual predator priest.)  Fortunately, his story is going to be wildly overblown, enough that nobody here in Osmeisley is going to take him seriously, except, perhaps, another priest of Hera.  You'll want to get to him before he is able to make such a report.
Urvan Kron
player, 140 posts
Age:10 | Big For His Age
Page Boy
Mon 9 Jan 2023
at 15:30
  • msg #143

Re: Out of Character

Alright, I'll edit here in a bit.

Was kind of getting mixed messages. It seemed like you inferred that going after him would be a bad idea.
Urvan Kron
player, 141 posts
Age:10 | Big For His Age
Page Boy
Mon 9 Jan 2023
at 16:11
  • msg #144

Re: Out of Character

Edited.
Zag
GM, 376 posts
Mon 9 Jan 2023
at 19:01
  • msg #145

Out of Character

Sorry.  I was implying that going after him in a huge public forum with guards nearby would be a bad idea.  And if he were killed by a kid with a huge dog in front of dozens if not hundreds of witnesses, that would certainly get back to Erastoo.  But I realized that I had misled you which is why I clarified.

As it is, there is just him claiming that a hell hound was after him.  The guards will not take him seriously at this point, but a priest of Hera might and Erastoo certainly will.
Zag
GM, 383 posts
Fri 13 Jan 2023
at 18:47
  • msg #146

Out of Character

@Urvan, I knowingly put you in this moral crisis without really having planned a way for you to get out of it.  :-)  I knew from the beginning of this quest that you'd have to kill Gratham, though I had kind of thought that it would be a situation where he attacked you first so your conscience would be clear.  It, ummm, didn't work out that way.

While it is a tough decision, I want you to know that you should role-play properly.  If you think that Urvan would not kill an innocent priest of Hera, then play it that way and there will be *some* way out, even though I don't know what it is just yet.
Urvan Kron
player, 145 posts
Age:10 | Big For His Age
Page Boy
Fri 13 Jan 2023
at 18:52
  • msg #147

Out of Character

It's a tough call for sure.

I'll have to give it some thought, after what he has been through, what his parents would have taught him, etc.
Zag
GM, 384 posts
Fri 13 Jan 2023
at 18:53
  • msg #148

Out of Character

Iwo's advice certainly would be to kill them both.
Zag
GM, 386 posts
Sat 14 Jan 2023
at 09:29
  • msg #149

Out of Character

@Urvan:  I assume you mean this bushwhack feat:  https://www.d20pfsrd.com/feats...ts/bushwhack-combat/ and not this one https://www.d20pfsrd.com/feats...ral-feats/bushwhack/.

I'm not really sure how this helps you, though.  If you only had one to contend with, then pinning would be a fine choice, but if all you do is pin one of them, then you have to stay with the pinned one and the other will be able to get away.  I think that your options, assuming you do want to try to take both of them out, are

1. Wait until they separate, then get one and then the other individually.  This has a risk that they are joined by yet another person, maybe tell that person, etc.  The bushwhack ability would be great for this approach, however.

2. Dive in and try to down one of them quickly, then get to the other before he escapes.  (Or maybe the other will attack you!)  If you make a pretty easy acrobatics roll (DC 12) then I'll let you do a standard attack in the surprise round and then you can hope to win initiative.  With a standard (surprise) attack and a full round attack, you should be able to do a fair bit of damage.  If you miss the acrobatics roll, you'll still have the hope of winning initiative and getting in a full round attack before either of them get to do anything.

I would suggest that you position Boreas more precisely than just 'guard the exterior.'  There's only one door into this house, so perhaps put him in front of it.  You won't need another stealth roll -- you know where they are, now, so you can avoid being noticed easily enough.

Also, don't forget to trigger your adrenaline rush.

Hmmm.  It doesn't seem that you ever selected any Masterwork items.  I had said that as the level up, you could each choose two masterwork items, one of which can be a weapon.  You could take the weapons your father had, if you like, as your weapon.
This message was last edited by the GM at 09:38, Sat 14 Jan 2023.
Urvan Kron
player, 147 posts
Age:10 | Big For His Age
Page Boy
Sat 14 Jan 2023
at 15:02
  • msg #150

Out of Character

Correct, and great catch on the equipment. He will definitely take those!

So going with. Guard command with Boreas at the front door, with a "diving" surprise attack through the window.

07:00, Today: Urvan Kron rolled 14 using 1d20+7.  Acrobatics Check DC12.

And yes, the plan is to trigger the adrenaline rush the first round of combat for maximum impact.
Zag
GM, 388 posts
Sun 15 Jan 2023
at 19:20
  • msg #151

Out of Character

Well, now it's Scarlet who's been gone for a week.  To be fair, her steady pace is slower, including some 1-week breaks.

I'm a little bit regretting putting all these stories in the same thread, since they are not overlapping much.  I do plan to have them come together in the end, but we'll probably go a while before that happens.  Would people find it easier if I separate the stories until that happens?

@Urvan, I went ahead and posted that you did the basic setup, but feel free to counter that if you want a different approach.

Your roll above stands, so you'll have one standard action worth of surprise round, then roll initiative.  You can attack whichever one you like; the reaction of the other one will somewhat depend on the success and mode of your attack, so I can't decide that until I see it.

However, I just realized that there's no reason for me not to roll initiative now.  If you beat theirs, then you can go ahead with your second round, too.

13:25, Today: Zag rolled 21,3 using d20+1,d20.  Initiative for Gratham, other priest.
Nat 10!

So if you beat 21 you get your surprise round plus another full round before they act.  Otherwise, you'll go after Gratham.  As I said, I have to see how your surprise round goes before I will know his action.
This message was last edited by the GM at 19:28, Sun 15 Jan 2023.
Zag
GM, 390 posts
Mon 16 Jan 2023
at 06:25
  • msg #152

Out of Character

Wow.  And, of course, you max'ed out damage.  I think, though, that you used the Stunning Fist too soon, since it is only supposed to last until your action in the next round.  (Checks SRD:  Oh, you have another, anyway.)

Ricka was questioning whether or not she had accidentally made a mistake in calculating her skills, because she is a real skills monster.  After checking, I agreed that she had done it correctly.  Of course, she's in huge trouble if she ever gets in a fight, which I pointed out.  I said "Wait until you see Urvan in a fight."  Yeah.  This is what it looks like.
Ricka Bellsmith
player, 48 posts
Riffraff, street rat
I don't buy that
Mon 16 Jan 2023
at 07:35
  • msg #153

Out of Character

... did Ricka's post get missed in there somewhere?
Zag
GM, 391 posts
Mon 16 Jan 2023
at 07:47
  • msg #154

Out of Character

Oh, sorry.  I thought I was waiting for you.  I'll put up a post in a bit.
Zag
GM, 393 posts
Mon 16 Jan 2023
at 17:40
  • msg #155

Out of Character

BTW, if anyone has detected a slight disparity in the seriousness and danger level between Ricka's and Scarlet's respective missions, just trust me that one is being oversold and the other is being undersold.
Ricka Bellsmith
player, 50 posts
Riffraff, street rat
I don't buy that
Tue 17 Jan 2023
at 11:42
  • msg #156

Out of Character

In reply to Zag (msg # 154):

no prob, I kind of snuck into the middle of the whole intense Urvan chase scene there  :)
Zag
GM, 395 posts
Tue 17 Jan 2023
at 16:09
  • msg #157

Out of Character

Zag:
As Urvan drives a cat's paw into Gratham's throat

My very old experience earning my black sash in Kung Fu (some 30 years ago) is showing here.  A cat's paw is a hand shape where you just bend the ends of your fingers, but the first knuckle stays flat with the back of your hand.  It's a devastating attack to the throat.  My point is that this isn't a separate weapon, just your hand.
Scarlet d'Ardelle
player, 177 posts
Age:14 | Barton's bastard
"Naiada Penapolous"
Tue 17 Jan 2023
at 17:59
  • msg #158

Out of Character

In reply to Zag (msg # 151):

Yes it's a bit confusing to have everything happen in the sam thread, but since I'm mad busy these days I can hardly complain :) I'll take whatever you dish.
Zag
GM, 396 posts
Tue 17 Jan 2023
at 19:44
  • msg #159

Re: Out of Character

I agree.  I'll make separate threads later today.  We may rejoin the stories once we get deeper into the games and I expect there to be more interaction.

BTW, I changed Animal Companion ability to say that the effective druid level is simply one less than your character level.  I realized that it was the only ability that changed depending on how long you've had the ability.  It made a situation where two character might have the same set of abilities but taken in a different order, and they would not have the same overall benefits from them.  So I removed the qualification based on when you took the ability and made so that the effective druid level is one less than your character level.
This message was last edited by the GM at 19:45, Tue 17 Jan 2023.
Zag
GM, 404 posts
Thu 19 Jan 2023
at 01:39
  • msg #160

Re: Out of Character

I have become frustrated with how unwieldy the NPCs thread has become.  I'm playing in another game in which the GM has made good use of the Game Wiki, a feature that I had never bothered to try out, and it is perfect for the NPCs.  They are all moved over there and the existing thread will no longer be extended.
Ricka Bellsmith
player, 58 posts
Riffraff, street rat
I don't buy that
Tue 24 Jan 2023
at 00:54
  • msg #161

Re: Out of Character

little bit swamped this weekend & tonight, sorry!  :)  Back to posting maybe at work overnight, or definitely by tomorrow afternoon.
Scarlet d'Ardelle
player, 179 posts
Age:14 | Barton's bastard
"Naiada Penapolous"
Tue 24 Jan 2023
at 10:27
  • msg #162

Re: Out of Character

I've been sick these last days, nothing serious but it really knocked me down. This comes on the tail end of a longish absence, so my apologies, Zag. Will get back into the groove asap.
Zag
GM, 417 posts
Tue 24 Jan 2023
at 15:10
  • msg #163

Re: Out of Character

I've decided just to accept this game as it comes, and not stress over it.  It has been very weird how everyone has come and gone, but it's all fine.  I love the fact that my initial concept -- the low magic world -- has made people focus more on role-playing and less on character stats/feats/race/etc.  All the characters are interesting and fun, all in very different ways.  So I'm happy for people to come and go as their real life allows.
Zag
GM, 418 posts
Sun 29 Jan 2023
at 19:05
  • msg #164

Re: Out of Character

Well, that brought everything to a screeching halt.
Scarlet d'Ardelle
player, 181 posts
Age:14 | Barton's bastard
"Naiada Penapolous"
Sun 29 Jan 2023
at 19:33
  • msg #165

Re: Out of Character

Apologies, life is getting the best of me lately. I know it's not my brightest post, but better keep the ball rolling than wait for the tardy muses.
Zag
GM, 421 posts
Sun 5 Feb 2023
at 01:29
  • msg #166

Re: Out of Character

@Scarlet:  I was talking to my son, who is running this game right now:  link to another game

The interesting aspect of that game is that it includes these interactions that act as social combats.  It is where the players are looking to gain influence from some NPCs, and it includes figuring out which NPC are most influenced by which skills and then applying them, using the best skills within the party.

Anyway, I was telling him about this game, where we have three apprentice spies with very different skills, you being the charisma rogue.  I already have Ricka in a scenario where all her burglar rogue skills are going to make a big difference, and Urvan just had a fight.  It was meant to be tougher than it turned out so I'll find another one for him, but that's easy to work up.

Anyway, I wanted to put together a scenario for you where social skills are what really matter.  He suggested I create something sort of in between what Kingmaker does and an actual combat, where the important skills are social ones and the 'hit points' and 'defense' will be based on your WIS, INT, and CHA similar to how fighting is based on STR, DEX, and CON.

There will be some social setting (or multiple, if we like the approach) in which you and the little bitch Jeannette are each trying to influence someone or multiple ones and competing to do it while curtailing the other's influence.  You can use diplomacy to influence, intimidation to block her attempts, bluff to do either, etc.  Perception will help to identify what is likely to work; Sense motive will be important to know what is working and what isn't.

Anyway, if you're interested, let me know and I will figure something out.
This message was last edited by the GM at 06:00, Sun 05 Feb 2023.
Scarlet d'Ardelle
player, 184 posts
Age:14 | Barton's bastard
"Naiada Penapolous"
Sun 5 Feb 2023
at 10:44
  • msg #167

Re: Out of Character

That sounds very intriguing! We could give it a shot and see how it plays?
Zag
GM, 422 posts
Mon 6 Feb 2023
at 15:12
  • msg #168

Re: Out of Character

Ok.  We'll try it out now.  I fully expect you to win this one, since the scenario ends pretty quickly if you lose.

--- Note added after writing all this:  This was very clean and simple in my mind, but it still took a fair bit to write it up.

Goal:  To get at least three of the adults to be 'friendly' towards you and still be 'alive,' i.e. you still have social hit points left.  That will get you to a point where you are welcome hanging out in the group.

Your starting social hit points is your Wisdom.  They are completely recovered after one of these encounters is over.

Each round will be a few minutes of talking, chatting, whatever.

Every round you make two rolls:  one for Information, one for Influence or Attack.

1. Information:  You use either Perception or Sense Motive.  It must be directed at a single individual, which could be one of the adults you're trying to influence or one of your opponents.  (In this case there is only one.)  The DC for the roll depends on which individual you are targeting.  If the roll is successful, then you will learn something about the person.

1a.  A successful Perception roll will tell you what sort of action is likely to be successful against this person, i.e. what skill to use to influence them and will put you at +2 on the next roll (assuming you use that action).  If you succeed by more than 5, you'll be at +4 on the next roll.

1b.  A successful Sense Motive roll will tell you the person's current attitude towards you and whether they changed since the last time.  (Someone might take more than one successful action to change from, say, hostile to unfriendly, so even though they are still hostile, this might tell you that they are less hostile than they were.)  It will also tell you a skill that might be effective against them, but does not confer any bonus.

2. Influence or Attack:  You use one skill and target one person.

2a.  Influence:  Different people will have different DC's per skill used against them, ranging from 10 to 25, so you'll want to use the right skill.  For example, your perception roll might tell you that the target particularly likes music, so using Perform (Sing) would likely influence them.  If your perception roll failed, then you can always resort to using Diplomacy or Bluff for influence or Intimidate or Bluff for attack, or just use again something you know works, but you won't have the bonus anymore.

2b.  Attack:  Your other option is to attack your opponent using either Intimidation or Bluff (or maybe other skills?).  This has the benefit of reversing your opponent's success from the previous round and giving your opponent one hit point.  It is not my intent that you win by destroying your opponent, but possibly an opponent will use this approach against you.

IMPORTANT:  When you use a skill, your effective skill level in that skill drops by 1d6+1, and all other skills that have already been reduced go up by 1, up to their normal value.  This is to prevent you from just using Bluff over and over.
This message was last edited by the GM at 15:28, Mon 06 Feb 2023.
Zag
GM, 424 posts
Tue 7 Feb 2023
at 15:39
  • msg #169

Re: Out of Character

BTW, feel free to give feedback on the rules if you have any.  I just made them up and haven't playtested them or anything.

My son looked them over and pointed out that I don't have the equivalent of AC, which would be the DC of the attack.  He suggested that it makes more sense for INT to be the "hit points" and WIS to be the AC.  He also suggested that something there should scale with level, but I disagree if the attack is only going to do one point of damage.

Anyway, you're up.  I realize that there is an inherent delay in this process, where you have to roll your observation portion and then, if it is successful, you'll want to wait to find out what you learn before acting.  All the DCs are between 12 and 20, depending on whom you're observing, so at least you can continue if you know you've failed.
Zag
GM, 427 posts
Thu 9 Feb 2023
at 16:48
  • msg #170

Out of Character

@Scarlet:  You reacted too quickly; I was still editing.  Feel free to edit completely, now that I have added all the parameters.  I'm still working out how the mechanics really work in practical terms, and I realized that I hadn't really given you the equivalent of a combat map and clear identification of opponents and allies.  Now it should be clearer.

Jeannette is your opponent, so there is no point in targetting her except as an attack to reverse her last action and to deliver a 'hit point.'
This message was last edited by the GM at 16:49, Thu 09 Feb 2023.
Scarlet d'Ardelle
player, 188 posts
Age:14 | Barton's bastard
"Naiada Penapolous"
Thu 9 Feb 2023
at 16:56
  • msg #171

Out of Character

Ooooh, I see. For once I was being flattering and non-confrontational, with the only NPC I am *bound* to duel. Thanks for the clarification, I have deleted my post entirely because yes, it made no sense in context now, not the dialog and not the roll either.
Zag
GM, 428 posts
Thu 9 Feb 2023
at 17:08
  • msg #172

Out of Character

This really is just practice for the system.  You'd really have to try to lose.  She's going to be crushed under the weight of the d6+1 drop on skills fairly quickly, because she just doesn't have as many as you have to work with and they aren't as high to start with.  So feel free to mess around and just try out the mechanics.
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