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OOC.

Posted by Dr FeckFor group 0
Dee
Wanderer, 2 posts
Fri 7 Jan 2022
at 00:52
  • msg #11

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Cloistered cleric.

I will worship an alien god if there is one about freedom or something like that.
Dr Feck
GM, 12 posts
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Fri 7 Jan 2022
at 01:41
  • msg #12

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In reply to Dee (msg # 11):

Remember, it does not have to be. It could be a divine idea you bring into the labyrinth with you. Something you regard as sacred. It would need to be fleshed out a bit as you would become this idea's 'priest'. For example-Freedom might require you to never to capture or enslave anything. Killing is fine, but not chaining something or enslaving it.
Dr Feck
GM, 13 posts
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Fri 7 Jan 2022
at 17:00
  • msg #13

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Just a reminder, we are starting at level 2. Everybody will get a free multiclass feat or an extra heritage feat. Anyone needs help picking those let me know.
Conner Johnson
Human, 1 post
Sun 9 Jan 2022
at 05:24
  • msg #14

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Hey all!

I'd like to recommend that everybody take a look at archives of nethys. It's a really really really really good website for Pathfinder and starfinder. I would say it's the best actually.
Dr Feck
GM, 14 posts
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Sun 9 Jan 2022
at 23:12
  • msg #15

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Good news, we have six players. We need to get the character sheets done. Dont worry about equipment. If you need help let me know and try to download pathbuild from the app store.
Tsukiko Kuki
Human, 1 post
Sun 9 Jan 2022
at 23:51
  • msg #16

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Hey all! Can't wait to get started, Tsukiko is a Priestess of Inari from the Kami-Inari shrine at Fushimi-ku in the Kyoto Prefecture of Japan.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fushimi_Inari-taisha

She's crossed over as a Kitsune Sorceress (Elemental Fire) or Oracle of Flame. Still deciding on the class part. :)
Conner Johnson
Human, 2 posts
Mon 10 Jan 2022
at 00:45
  • msg #17

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So I initially was going to go which but the GM told me somebody is multiclassing witch. So instead I might go either wizard or summoner with an alchemist as my multi-class so that I can try to feed healing elixers to the party and give familiars sneeze powders to drop on enemies, etc.
Dr Feck
GM, 15 posts
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Mon 10 Jan 2022
at 02:06
  • msg #18

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Just a reminder, everybody needs a description and portrait for both human and wanderer versions of your characters.
Conner Johnson
Human, 3 posts
Mon 10 Jan 2022
at 04:02
  • msg #19

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Hey all.

So I decided to set in stone my choice of class. I will be playing a wizard, with the alchemist multiclass. They both use intelligence, but more than anything I want to use his reagents to help supplement the party's daily resources and options. Especially if I get a familiar who can run potions to people during fights and stuff.

I haven't fully decided on school or universalist yet but I'm leaning toward abjuration or conjuration schools, which tend to jive well with me. I like illusion too, but tend to use them like a form of abjuration (i.e. like the hallucinatory terrain spell to cover our campsite, etc) rather than the full tricksiness a full illusionist would enjoy.

I'm going either familiar or staff thesis and still deciding, but strongly leaning toward the familiar so it can use items I make in fights to provide the party with support options. :)
Dr Feck
GM, 16 posts
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Mon 10 Jan 2022
at 14:31
  • msg #20

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Hey everyone.

Kira has dropped out, so I am looking for one more.

Even if we dont get it by the time you are all done with your sheets I will start.

:)
Tsukiko Kuki
Human, 2 posts
Mon 10 Jan 2022
at 19:30
  • msg #21

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I've settled on Fire Elemental Sorceress. There is a spell in it's list that as a Kitsune I need and won't get as a Flame Oracle considering it's on the primal list and oracles get the divine list.
Dr Feck
GM, 17 posts
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Mon 10 Jan 2022
at 19:58
  • msg #22

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Classes so far:

Dee=Cleric(Multiclass unchosen)
Jake=Inventor(Witch Multiclass)
Tsuki=Fire Sorceress(Multiclass unchosen)
John=Fighter(Multiclass unchosen)
Conner=Wizard(Multiclass unchosen)
Connor
Wanderer, 1 post
Mon 10 Jan 2022
at 20:55
  • msg #23

Re: OOC

Dr Feck:
Classes so far:

Dee=Cleric(Multiclass unchosen)
Jake=Inventor(Witch Multiclass)
Tsuki=Fire Sorceress(Multiclass unchosen)
John=Fighter(Multiclass unchosen)
Conner=Wizard(Multiclass unchosen)

Alchemist multiclass. :)
Conner Johnson
Human, 4 posts
Mon 10 Jan 2022
at 20:56
  • msg #24

Re: OOC

Tsukiko Kuki:
I've settled on Fire Elemental Sorceress. There is a spell in it's list that as a Kitsune I need and won't get as a Flame Oracle considering it's on the primal list and oracles get the divine list.

What spell? There may be a way to get it for you still and oracle is very thematic for your character backstory.
Dr Feck
GM, 18 posts
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Mon 10 Jan 2022
at 21:06
  • msg #25

Re: OOC

In reply to Connor (msg # 23):

Corrected!

Dee=Cleric(Multiclass unchosen)
Jake=Inventor(Witch Multiclass)
Tsuki=Fire Sorceress(Multiclass unchosen)
John=Fighter(Multiclass unchosen)
Conner=Wizard(Alchemist multiclass)
Tsukiko Kuki
Human, 3 posts
Mon 10 Jan 2022
at 21:32
  • msg #26

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Conner Johnson:
Tsukiko Kuki:
I've settled on Fire Elemental Sorceress. There is a spell in it's list that as a Kitsune I need and won't get as a Flame Oracle considering it's on the primal list and oracles get the divine list.

What spell? There may be a way to get it for you still and oracle is very thematic for your character backstory.


Magic Fang, its only in the Primal list. And 1st level.
This message was last edited by the player at 21:33, Mon 10 Jan 2022.
Jake
Wanderer, 1 post
Mon 10 Jan 2022
at 21:45
  • msg #27

Re: OOC

You can get it at 4th level through Divine Access (Dahak) if you don't need it right away

Or multiclass, since it's a buff and the DC doesn't matter
Connor
Wanderer, 2 posts
Human Wizard
I will turn the tables!
Mon 10 Jan 2022
at 22:03
  • msg #28

Re: OOC

Tsukiko Kuki:
Conner Johnson:
Tsukiko Kuki:
I've settled on Fire Elemental Sorceress. There is a spell in it's list that as a Kitsune I need and won't get as a Flame Oracle considering it's on the primal list and oracles get the divine list.

What spell? There may be a way to get it for you still and oracle is very thematic for your character backstory.


Magic Fang, its only in the Primal list. And 1st level.


Ok so I'm not like a specialist on the pathfinder rules or anything, but I took a look a Archive of Nethys and found oracle has a few options to get you what you want.

1.) 4th level class feat of Divine Access. The fire domain has a god named Dahak that grants magic fang. This means you can add it to your class spell list (if I'm reading the rules on Nethys right). You don't actually need to worship dahak.

2.) Take oracle primary class with a sorcerer multiclass and use primal as your sorcery list. Also at 4th level, the basic sorcerer spell casting will allow you to take magic fang as a first level primal spell in your repertoire.

3.) While not a perfect fix, I can give you energy mutagens that will let your strikes do some fire (or other energy type you want) damage.


It seems that if you want the spell, you can grab it at 4th level with a feat either through oracle class feat or a multiclass one, and we start at level 2 so level 4 isn't that far away.

The real question is how badly do you want to play oracle? If the answer is "it's my first choice of preference" then I say go for it and make your feats work for your concept and I can feed you mutagens until level 4. :P
Tsukiko Kuki
Human, 4 posts
Mon 10 Jan 2022
at 22:14
  • msg #29

Re: OOC

Jake:
You can get it at 4th level through Divine Access (Dahak) if you don't need it right away

Or multiclass, since it's a buff and the DC doesn't matter


Either way I'll not get it until 4th level. Multiclassing won't let me have it until I take the Basic Spellcasting feat for the Dedication I took which is a 4th level feat. That is unless GM fiat steps in and lets me take it at 2nd level instead.

Thematically Sorcerer or Oracle fit for my character as her shrine was dedicated to Kami -Inari. Inari used (this is Shinto mythology mind you) kitsune as messenger's, and there are 13 different types of kitsune. The thirteen different kinds of Kitsune each have their own element, including Heaven, Dark, Wind, Spirit, Fire, Earth, River, Ocean, Mountain, Forest, Thunder, Time and Sound. So going either Oracle or Sorceress works perfect. In fact when it came to either almost any bloodline or mystery fit. Almost.
Tsukiko Kuki
Human, 5 posts
Mon 10 Jan 2022
at 22:19
  • msg #30

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Connor:
The real question is how badly do you want to play oracle? If the answer is "it's my first choice of preference" then I say go for it and make your feats work for your concept and I can feed you mutagens until level 4. :P


The other real question is, how bad do I need Foxfire. :) Which is the reason for this debate. ;)
This message was last edited by the player at 22:19, Mon 10 Jan 2022.
Dr Feck
GM, 19 posts
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Mon 10 Jan 2022
at 22:22
  • msg #31

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In reply to Tsukiko Kuki (msg # 30):

Is it just one spell that you need? Make the character you want, and magic items and such can fill in the gaps for that one spell.

I will be Talior making magic items for all of you. Due to an in game reason you will discover later...
This message was last edited by the GM at 22:24, Mon 10 Jan 2022.
Connor
Wanderer, 3 posts
Human Wizard
I will turn the tables!
Mon 10 Jan 2022
at 22:29
  • msg #32

Re: OOC

The DM makes a great point, Tsuki.

If magic fang is literally the ONLY thing making you hesitate to roll an oracle...then just roll an oracle and the party and DM will make it work somehow. Playing the most fun concept is most important. As a player, I also want to see you having fun too and not letting magic fang be a hang up. ^_^
Tsukiko Kuki
Human, 6 posts
Mon 10 Jan 2022
at 22:45
  • msg #33

Re: OOC

Yup. :) And I do want to try something new. :)

So it boils down to which mystery then. Tempest which covers the Wind, Thunder, and all the water kitsune; Flames which covers the Fire Kitsune; Cosmos which would cover the Heavens; or Ancestors which cover the spirit.
Connor
Wanderer, 4 posts
Human Wizard
I will turn the tables!
Mon 10 Jan 2022
at 23:27
  • msg #34

Re: OOC

You don't actually need Foxfire at all for your idea. There are ways we can get you a produce fire cantrip or something.

I do think the idea of you being a fire Oracle of inari is really cool. I think you should go for it as it sounds like this is really what you was a player will find the most entertaining.

If you change your mind or your concept changes let us know and we'll see what we can do as a team to accommodate it.
Tsukiko Kuki
Human, 7 posts
Mon 10 Jan 2022
at 23:59
  • msg #35

Re: OOC

Foxfire has the benefit of being able to fire off every action and it's a ranged touch attack in the sling category with no reload and the magical trait that qualifies as a natural weapon as well. So it has a lot of benefits. It just has low damage.

Produce Flame you can only fire off once a turn, however it also does 1d4 + the spellcasting modifier damage which in Tsuki's case is +4. It's also ranged touch attack.

So at the lower levels that are about equal. Do a single stride and then two Foxfire's or one Produce Flame and you'd be doing roughly the same damage. Where the curve slides in favor of Foxfire in lower levels is when you do not need to move.

Now higher levels it slides more in favor of Produce Flame because it scales and sadly natural weapons do not. But that's where magic comes into play because thing's like Magic Fang and Hand Wraps of Mighty Blows will affect her Foxfire because it is considered an unarmed attack. So that is how Foxfire gets benefit's at higher levels.

So Magic Fang is the low level need to get by, but ultimately Hand Wraps of Mighty Blows is the ultimate goal for her Foxfire (and maybe Claws if I choose that Ancestry feat later).
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