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OOC Thread II.

Posted by Aruvna NumariFor group 0
September
player, 314 posts
Okay, well, then... -You-
find a hammer portrait!
Wed 21 Dec 2022
at 22:19
  • msg #207

Re: OOC Thread II

The concealment comes from the level of precipitation, which is 5 (doesn't matter if it's boiling rain, snow, etc).

EDIT: eh, was worth a shot.
This message was last edited by the player at 22:19, Wed 21 Dec 2022.
Supervisor of reality
GM, 752 posts
Wed 21 Dec 2022
at 22:43
  • msg #208

Re: OOC Thread II

Diata Yuari:
Actually, I do have 9 uses of spell resistance 25 from my Silver Material Imposition if that helps. Supervisor, can you give me a CL check?

I can, and here it is.

23:36, Today: Supervisor of reality rolled 26 using 1d20+15 with rolls of 11.  MSB vs Spell Resistance.

Once again, beaten by 1 - you really have horrible luck, Diata.

That being said, I'm pretty sure that you can't activate imposition as immediate actions, and in fact that the silver imposition actually requires substantial (as in, 1 hour) preparation time, so run me by how you would have it available; did I made a rule on this before that I'm not remembering, or am I missing some rule? I must admit that I'm not too used to the Scholar class.
Diata Yuari
player, 229 posts
Wed 21 Dec 2022
at 23:02
  • msg #209

Re: OOC Thread II

The Silver Imposition amulet isn't an "activate," it's a passive like the Crystalline Focus.

Speaking of the Crystalline Focus,

13:58, Today: Diata Yuari rolled 60 using 1d100 with rolls of 60.  Crystalline Focus alignment.

Okay, so it's still aligned (not that it matters much).

Anyway. Scholar abilities are a grab bag that all work in weird ways. In the case of the Silver Amulet, it was crafted before the beginning of the game (I mentioned it with my equipment purchases) and was therefore at 9/9 until I faced a caster level check. I only need to realign it after it goes to 0, or I have spare time to hack it back to 9 anyway.

quote:
Silver is the metal most closely related to the moon and is said to ward off bad luck and witchcraft. When the scholar first gains this imposition she learns how to craft a small amulet that must use at least 10 sp worth of silver and costs 1 hour and a total of 100 gp times the scholar’s class level to create. A silver amulet crafted in this manner may be sold for 1/2 its crafting cost, as long as it is currently functioning. As long as the scholar or an ally is wearing this amulet, they gain spell resistance equal to 10 + the scholar’s class level. These charms do not occupy an item slot, but wearing more than one has no additional effect. Because they are not true magic items but rather science and geometry applied in a way that interferes with magical energies, these amulets are exceedingly fragile, and they cease to function after they have forced casters to attempt a caster level check to overcome the granted spell resistance a number of times equal to the scholar’s Intelligence modifier (minimum 1), as determined at the time the amulet was crafted. Once this limit has been reached, the amulet ceases to function until the scholar spends at least 1 hour re-attuning it. As an immediate action, the scholar may expend their martial focus to quickly realign the amulet, causing a caster level check to not consume one of its uses.

Halasik
player, 316 posts
Wed 21 Dec 2022
at 23:16
  • msg #210

Re: OOC Thread II

Concealment should be affecting me as well, I believe?

Also, did I get anything from my knowledge checks?


Anyone have a suggestion on strategy other than wandering around getting blasted? We could try to destroy them all, but that would take a long time. Anyone else have any other ideas?
Supervisor of reality
GM, 753 posts
Wed 21 Dec 2022
at 23:20
  • msg #211

Re: OOC Thread II


Scholar is a tricky class, lots of moving parts. Still, the versatility very much compensates for that, I think. Thanks for clearing that up, Diata, I had in fact missed the details. :)

Halasik, the knowledge rolls didn't give you anything; I think I already mentioned that the entire room, every mirror and surface, is giving off an overwhelming magical signature, with no individual sphere to identify.

I do think you are right about the concealment though.

00:20, Today: Supervisor of reality rolled 11 using 1d20 with rolls of 11.  30% concealment.

Seems like the attack managed to overcome that.
September
player, 316 posts
Okay, well, then... -You-
find a hammer portrait!
Wed 21 Dec 2022
at 23:30
  • msg #212

Re: OOC Thread II

Yes, all of you are benefitting from September's mantle, which is now (now that the storm's picked up) granting 50% concealment and a +5 morale bonus to attack, damage, and Will saves.  It feels good to be alive!


Also, Supervisor, I know that normally you'd post at the end of the round, but I suspect my allies would find it VERY helpful to know the basic results of my actions right away-- do the mirrors shatter at the first blow, appear invincible, launch devastating counterattacks, impose a Luck penalty for seven years, etc?


For the record, given that walking forward might have triggered them, this could be as simple as getting to the other side.  But since the Bearer was directed to attack what attacked Diata earlier, it seemed like an easy way to see what happens if we break the mirrors.
This message was last edited by the player at 23:31, Wed 21 Dec 2022.
Diata Yuari
player, 230 posts
Thu 22 Dec 2022
at 00:11
  • msg #213

Re: OOC Thread II

Also, someone stop me before I decide to poison the mirrors just to show that I can.
September
player, 318 posts
Okay, well, then... -You-
find a hammer portrait!
Thu 22 Dec 2022
at 00:12
  • msg #214

Re: OOC Thread II

...I kinda want to see that, but would the poison be fast-acting enough?
Diata Yuari
player, 231 posts
Thu 22 Dec 2022
at 00:18
  • msg #215

Re: OOC Thread II

Yes; alchemy poisons take effect on hit.

Sadly, it's moot; the mirrors almost certainly don't have the HP to stand up to my darts. But I leave you all with the mental image of a mirror throwing up.

Also moot because I'm stunned. See, GM, this is why I try to roll as little as possible and do everything with Skill Mastery. :)
This message was last edited by the player at 00:47, Thu 22 Dec 2022.
September
player, 319 posts
Okay, well, then... -You-
find a hammer portrait!
Thu 22 Dec 2022
at 01:40
  • msg #216

Re: OOC Thread II

Halasik, did you not get the beautiful, ginormous pool of temp HP from Diata and Iona?
Halasik
player, 318 posts
Thu 22 Dec 2022
at 02:09
  • msg #217

Re: OOC Thread II

Iona isn't with us, and I didn't actually see Diata giving us any temporary HPs, so I don't think so?

I've just been using my own two separate abilities to give myself temporary HPs.
Diata Yuari
player, 233 posts
Thu 22 Dec 2022
at 02:11
  • msg #218

Re: OOC Thread II

In reply to Halasik (msg # 217):

Yes you did. You even mentioned in your buffs, "120 temp HPs from Diata".
Halasik
player, 319 posts
Thu 22 Dec 2022
at 02:37
  • msg #219

Re: OOC Thread II

Haha, ok so I did see it, and then it fell out of the leaky bucket I call my brain.

GM: can I decide which temporary HPs are lost first if the rules don't otherwise say?

My nature's carapace HPs are explicitly lost first, but I'd prefer that berserk is lost before Diata's since they refill every round, but the rules don't clarify.
Verik
player, 256 posts
Thu 22 Dec 2022
at 04:41
  • msg #220

Re: OOC Thread II

Sorry, I somehow missed that I was supposed to make to-hit rolls a couple of posts ago.  Added them to the relevant post, but for ease of reference here too.


20:40, Today: Verik rolled 32 using 4d20 with rolls of 8,6,7,11.  to-hit rolls, each at +24.
This message was last edited by the player at 04:42, Thu 22 Dec 2022.
Supervisor of reality
GM, 755 posts
Thu 22 Dec 2022
at 06:33
  • msg #221

Re: OOC Thread II

In reply to Halasik (msg # 219):

I'm fine with letting you decide the order in which you lose the Temp HP where the rules allow for some leeway.

Also, Diata, I made a mistake with the blast - failing the Fort save leaves you staggered, not stunned. I mixed the two up in my head.
Diata Yuari
player, 234 posts
Thu 22 Dec 2022
at 07:45
  • msg #222

Re: OOC Thread II

Got it. How long does the condition persist?

...and I just realized that I need to set up a standard list of prepared formulae, too. Oh well.
Supervisor of reality
GM, 756 posts
Thu 22 Dec 2022
at 08:32
  • msg #223

Re: OOC Thread II


Staggered for one round, just as the stunned would have lasted. I literally just wrote down the wrong word.
Halasik
player, 320 posts
Fri 23 Dec 2022
at 21:23
  • msg #224

Re: OOC Thread II

I still have convenient from September's storm, yes?
Supervisor of reality
GM, 758 posts
Fri 23 Dec 2022
at 21:39
  • msg #225

Re: OOC Thread II


Concealment you mean? I think you still have it, but I'm not sure if it applies against Darts.

I don't think it does, due to the fact the darts target a line, and roll against you if you're occupying a square that is in that line, and that single one roll applies to each creature on the line. The rules don't say, but unless you have an argument, I'm inclined to say that, since the dart is a trap, it ignores things like concealment.

So... you have a good argument for why it should apply?
Halasik
player, 321 posts
Fri 23 Dec 2022
at 23:55
  • msg #226

Re: OOC Thread II

Concealment is what I meant, sorry.

I didn't realize that's how the dart works, just saw the attack roll and assumed concealment would apply. No worries.
September
player, 320 posts
Okay, well, then... -You-
find a hammer portrait!
Sat 24 Dec 2022
at 01:31
  • msg #227

Re: OOC Thread II

Everyone does have a 50% miss chance (doesn't call it concealment, though it does stack with the concealment from fog) as long as there's precipitation, which is currently held at a 7 (experienced as 4 by the party).  But...

In reply to Supervisor of reality (msg # 225):
I was tempted to make an argument at first-- I've never heard of something that uses attack rolls and ignores concealment (without, say, the Guided property specifically saying "ignores concealment").  And I'm not 100% convinced that "Mist Form's" miss chance is actually concealment to begin with.

But then I realized-- you normally handle this by saying the same rules apply to everyone, PC and NPC.  So I think this is to our advantage long-term-- we're establishing that Diata's Darts ignore concealment, right?
This message was last edited by the player at 01:31, Sat 24 Dec 2022.
Diata Yuari
player, 236 posts
Sat 24 Dec 2022
at 01:41
  • msg #228

Re: OOC Thread II

I mean, Trap Wielder feels like something that would obey concealment, but that's just a feeling. I do need to be able to point the line.

Also a note on the noose: How high is the mirror's Craft (traps)? Mine is 15, or 20 with the Attunement.
Supervisor of reality
GM, 759 posts
Sat 24 Dec 2022
at 10:29
  • msg #229

Re: OOC Thread II


The mirror borrows your stats, so it's using your save DC as noted on your sheet - I think what you're saying here is that the DC on your sheet is 3 points short?

And yeah, September, if I rule one way for the enemy, I rule the same way for you, absolutely. That said, I do see what you're saying - if mist form is not concealment but rather some form of incorporeality, then it should apply. I misunderstood the nature of the power.

11:29, Today: Supervisor of reality rolled 7 using 1d20 with rolls of 7.  30% miss chance (hit on 7+).

Seems like the attack hits anyway.
This message was last edited by the GM at 10:31, Sat 24 Dec 2022.
Diata Yuari
player, 237 posts
Sat 24 Dec 2022
at 10:31
  • msg #230

Re: OOC Thread II

Actually, I was asking because if it uses my trapcraft, the noose effect immediately applies 5 rounds of suffocation.
Supervisor of reality
GM, 760 posts
Sat 24 Dec 2022
at 10:32
  • msg #231

Re: OOC Thread II


Yes, but Noose has a save first, and only applies it if the target fails the save. Or do you have an ability that removes the save?
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