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OOC Thread II.

Posted by Aruvna NumariFor group 0
Verik
player, 176 posts
Fri 9 Sep 2022
at 05:30
  • msg #37

OOC Thread II

There's a misconception that Verik can create a mind-bridge - because earlier I was referring to something someone else could do and it came across like Verik was doing it - but in fact he can only mentally communicate with other Munavri (absent some other effect).
Banner
player, 173 posts
Fri 9 Sep 2022
at 07:38
  • msg #38

Re: OOC Thread II

Ah, ok! I will update my Buffs thread entry and post, thanks
Supervisor of reality
GM, 584 posts
Mon 12 Sep 2022
at 06:47
  • msg #39

Re: OOC Thread II


So, since Banner wants to go to the greenhouse, and Verik hasn't objected, and you do happen to have all five flower tokens, even if you only obtained them recently due to Halasik's last success, I'm going to rule that you distributed the tokens among the team and as a result, by lucky coincidence, the necessary flower tokens are with Verik. That way I can have them be at the greenhouse without problem.

I'm giving everybody ten or so hours to raise objections to the idea if you disagree with me running things this way. I feel like it's the best way to push things forward.
Halasik
player, 261 posts
Mon 12 Sep 2022
at 13:06
  • msg #40

Re: OOC Thread II

I'm ok with it.

That said, I think I'm also just about done with my current situation, so I could finish up talking with the aeon and then go join Verik and Banner?
Supervisor of reality
GM, 585 posts
Mon 12 Sep 2022
at 13:18
  • msg #41

Re: OOC Thread II


That works perfectly fine with me. Banner, Verik, any objections to being joined by Halasik in checking over the greenhouse?
Halasik
player, 263 posts
Mon 12 Sep 2022
at 13:34
  • msg #42

Re: OOC Thread II

Also, just FYI, my family and I are going on vacation this week. Shouldn't significantly alter my posting rate, but might be a tad on the less frequent side.
Banner
player, 176 posts
Mon 12 Sep 2022
at 14:29
  • msg #43

OOC Thread II

In reply to Supervisor of reality (msg # 41):

Fine by me!
September
player, 219 posts
Okay, well, then... -You-
find a hammer portrait!
Thu 15 Sep 2022
at 07:24
  • msg #44

OOC Thread II

In reply to Halasik (msg # 36):

Updated all of this into the list in post 4.  What's this about Banner earning tokens, though?
Banner
player, 181 posts
Thu 15 Sep 2022
at 15:47
  • msg #45

OOC Thread II

In reply to September (msg # 44):

In msg #59, the Azata provide a consulation prize of iris and magnolia tokens
September
player, 221 posts
Okay, well, then... -You-
find a hammer portrait!
Thu 15 Sep 2022
at 17:33
  • msg #46

OOC Thread II

Ah, thanks.  I'm so used to seeing the tokens described in OOC color that I missed that.
Supervisor of reality
GM, 597 posts
Thu 15 Sep 2022
at 17:37
  • msg #47

OOC Thread II

In reply to September (msg # 46):

That's my fault - I normally do it that way for clarity, but in Banner's post, I forgot. I apologize for that, I've had a few very intense weeks recently. :P
September
player, 222 posts
Okay, well, then... -You-
find a hammer portrait!
Thu 15 Sep 2022
at 21:18
  • msg #48

OOC Thread II

In reply to Supervisor of reality (msg # 47):

Oh, that was not a criticism-- I'm the last person to have standing about real life becoming busy/stressful, and you do much more!
Supervisor of reality
GM, 598 posts
Thu 15 Sep 2022
at 21:30
  • msg #49

OOC Thread II

In reply to September (msg # 48):

Maybe in game, but I suspect my real-life stress is at much lower levels than most people here. And so you have my thanks for being understanding. :)

Also, since you were editing the list of tokens, I suspect the new information you got is probably worth adding in, since it means you now know what nearly every combination is supposed to be.

And, in a meager effort to present myself as cleverer than I am, I'll ask everybody what they think the combinations were inspired by, now that the names are known, and why I picked the symbols I did; it'll be amusing to read everybody's takes on my silliness! ^_^
This message was last edited by the GM at 21:31, Thu 15 Sept 2022.
Iona de Orasaigh
player, 347 posts
The soul, like the body,
lives by what it feeds on
Thu 15 Sep 2022
at 21:51
  • msg #50

OOC Thread II

Going to leave some for the others, but the Hero combination is from the Avengers :P
Halasik
player, 268 posts
Fri 16 Sep 2022
at 14:28
  • msg #51

OOC Thread II

suits are obviously the suits of a standard deck of cards
Elements from the asian five elements (wood, water, fire, earth, metal)
Tarot I'm pretty sure are the major arcana from a tarot deck
Horoscope and Zodiac confuse me. The standard modern zodiac constellations don't perfectly line up with either one. Aries could be either Ram/Hoof, Taurus makes more sense for Horn than Hammer, Gemini doesn't seem to be leaf or tail, Cancer is a crab, Leo doesn't work for either beehive or web, etc. Even if they aren't in order, I'm still not seeing a perfect alignment for either grouping.
Ability combination, based on the name, I'm guessing means the six stats. Boot would be dex, Eye wis, Helmet Int, Spear str (maybe?), but not sure which of lemon and vortex are Cha and Con.
Again given the name, I'm guessing the sin combination could be the seven deadly sins.
Blanket is Sloth, Fist is Wrath, Mirror is Pride, not sure of the rest.

Hero combination I concede Iona's brilliant deduction, not sure I would have come up with it on my own, but yeah, definitely right.

Virtue I got nothing.

Equipment is misc. adventuring gear? No ten foot pole though.
Verik
player, 194 posts
Fri 16 Sep 2022
at 22:16
  • msg #52

OOC Thread II

Rolling tokens and I'm confused - the token list above only has 54 entries but we're rolling a d100 (less the rerolls)?
Supervisor of reality
GM, 608 posts
Fri 16 Sep 2022
at 22:19
  • msg #53

OOC Thread II


I'll give you the full list, Verik; there's indeed 100 tokens in total.
September
player, 223 posts
Okay, well, then... -You-
find a hammer portrait!
Fri 16 Sep 2022
at 22:35
  • msg #54

OOC Thread II

In reply to Verik (msg # 52):

The best place to look is message 4 of this thread; there's a full list that I try to update when anyone finds tokens or token information.
Supervisor of reality
GM, 610 posts
Fri 16 Sep 2022
at 22:40
  • msg #55

OOC Thread II

In reply to September (msg # 54):

Speaking of which, Verik just won the poison-tasting competition and earned two hundred tokens from it, so you'll have a lot of stuff to add to the list soon enough, September.

Is there even any token left for you to earn, outside the heart, club, clover and scarab?
September
player, 224 posts
Okay, well, then... -You-
find a hammer portrait!
Fri 16 Sep 2022
at 22:47
  • msg #56

OOC Thread II

Banana, Bridle, Helmet, Glasses, and Vest, though I was going to have September pick those up from the gambling.

Oh!  Related note-- we have the full set of card game hall tokens now, but does September need to track down everyone else before playing to get the tokens from them?  I haven't been tracking who's carrying what.
Supervisor of reality
GM, 611 posts
Fri 16 Sep 2022
at 22:53
  • msg #57

OOC Thread II


I'm willing to waive that and allow that you "just happen" to have distributed the tokens among your team so that everybody has the tokens at hand that they need, with you having those necessary to engage in the card games and Halasik, Banner and Verik having those needed to access the greenhouse. So, you can assume that September has what you need him to have.
Verik
player, 196 posts
Sat 17 Sep 2022
at 00:17
  • msg #58

OOC Thread II

Not gonna deny I'm pretty pleased with myself, here is my token haul.  And I didn't even need to be resurrected!

Bold for ones I didn't get, italic for ones I didn't get but we can randomly.

1 Heart 0
2 Coin 0
3 Club 0
4 Sword 0

5 Tree 5
6 River 1
7 Flame 2
8 Mountain 1
9 Ingot 4
10 Ram 4
11 Hammer 2
12 Leaf 2
13 Crab 3
14 Claw 3
15 Beehive 2
16 Feather 0
17 Snake 3
18 Flag 3
19 Clover 0
20 Cup 2
21 Teardrop 0
22 Bell 2
23 Book 2
24 Scarf 0
25 Glove 3
26 Crown 1
27 Cross 0
28 Dice 3
29 Bridle 1
30 Paw 3
31 Staff 3
32 Wheel 1
33 Axe 3
34 Rope 0
35 Skull 2
36 Hourglass 1
37 Whip 3
38 Tower 4
39 Star 4
40 Sun 1
41 Moon 4
42 Trumpet 2
43 Cloud 1
44 Hoof 0
45 Horn 1
46 Tail 2
47 Turtle 2
48 Web 2
49 Carrot 3
50 Egg 3
51 String 1
52 Bone 4
53 Gem 2
54 Fork 2
55 Banana 1
56 Rose 2
57 Lily 0
58 Iris 3
59 Magnolia 3
60 Ivy 3
61 Lemon 2
62 Spear 2
63 Helmet 1
64 Eye 3
65 Vortex 6
66 Boot 0
67 Ladder 1
68 Arrow 4
69 Mirror 4
70 Fist 3
71 Chain 3
72 Balloon 3
73 Blanket 3
74 Shield 1
75 Bag 3
76 Flask 5
77 Thunderbolt 1
78 Apple 1
79 Bullseye 1
80 Ant 2
81 Lamp 1
82 Bread 3
83 Grapes 0
84 Anchor 1
85 Hat 1
86 Glasses 1
87 Pendant 3
88 Cloak 0
89 Vest 2
90 Belt 3
91 Quiver 2
92 Chest 3
93 Skirt 2
94 Gauntlet 1
95 Corset 2
96 Shoes 2
97 Map 3
98 Ring 5
99 Knife 1
100 Winged 0


Sorry it looks like that, didn't have the patience or know-how to make a table.
September
player, 226 posts
Okay, well, then... -You-
find a hammer portrait!
Sat 17 Sep 2022
at 00:52
  • msg #59

OOC Thread II

Alright, updated.
Halasik
player, 271 posts
Sat 17 Sep 2022
at 18:48
  • msg #60

OOC Thread II

I am travelling, and will probably not be able to post for the next ~2 days (I might be able to get in a quick post from my cell phone, but probably nothing more than that until Monday or Tuesday).
Supervisor of reality
GM, 621 posts
Sat 17 Sep 2022
at 19:33
  • msg #61

OOC Thread II

Noted, and thank you for letting us know, Halasik.

As well, since it seems that nobody else will be trying their hand at it, I'll explain the meaning of the symbols on the token, for my own amusement if nothing else.

As Halasik correctly identified, the first four are based on the four suits, sort of; you might have noticed that, while Clubs and Hearts match the french set, I also have Swords and Coins, which are actually two of the suits in the italian/tarot set. I did that mostly because I didn't want to give preference to one of the two type of card suits over the other, and also because, this way, I got to make both the Heart and the Sword tokens unique and special, which I really wanted to do.

The elemental set is indeed based on the five oriental elements, as Halasik also correctly identified. I knew I wanted an elemental set for the particular thing this combination allows access to, and given I had 100 slots to fill, going for the set that has one extra element felt like the superior choice.

Next, the Horoscope combination is based on the western horoscope signs; of course, while some of these match easily (Ram is the Ram, Crab for the Cancer, Claw for Lion, and Cup for Aquarium), other uses a bit of lateral logic. The Teardrop is for the Fishes, on the basis of the "a teardrop in the ocean" saying having that kind of connotation, and me not wanting any symbol that was an actual animal, and fishes not really having an iconic animal part the way claws are for Lions or hooves are for Horses. The feather is for Libra, in reference to the Egyptian practice of "weighting the heart on the scales", which seemed appropriate when you're working for an Egyptian deity. The Snake is poisonous, like the Scorpion, and also is one of only two animals who has a symbol to itself, but it doesn't actually represent itself; I just like the idea that the snake is so duplicitous that even its symbol is meant to trick.

That leaves the hammer for Taurus, the leaf for Gemini, the beehive for Virgo, the flag for the Sagittarii and the clover for the Capricorn. To be honest, I really didn't have a good idea for Gemini and Virgo; for Taurus and Sagittarii, the big symbols for them (horns and bows and arrows) I had already booked elsewhere. So I sort of improvised - the Sagittarii is sort of like cavalry, so it can be considered to carry the flag, and for Virgo, I went by opposition, with the queen bee being the most direct contrast to all the ideas virginity is meant to represent that I could think of on the spur of the moment. The Gemini are based on the whole Castor and Pollux myth, so I went for the image of the laurel crown, then realized that would generate confusion with the normal crown that was already a symbol, so I simplified it to just a leaf. That left me with having no real way to symbolize a bull; I also wanted to have the hammer as a symbol, and I eventually just decided that replacing it with the thunderbolt in the Hero collection and moving it to the Horoscope was the best solution.

The Capricorn got the clover because that's something goats would eat, and also because that's my sign and I wanted it to stand for luck, which the four-leaf clover does. :)

The Tarot combination is, as once again Halasik guessed, based on the Tarot deck's major Arcana: I think most of the references there are pretty easy to catch, but if anybody is confused, I can answer that.

The Zodiac collection is based on the Chinese Zodiak, since I didn't want to represent only one of the two. So, we have hoof for the Horse, horn for the Ox, tail for the Rat (which doubles up as a Final Fantasy reference), carrot for the Rabbit, banana for the Monkey, bone for the Dog, gem for the Dragon, egg for the Chicken (since the egg definitely came first), string for the Tiger because tigers are big cats (specifically noted to resemble the spring balls cats are known to play with), and fork for the Pig (because of the wordplay, obviously). We're left with the goat and the snake, and since I replaced an arachnid in the western set with the snake, it felt appropriate to replace the snake here with another arachnid, the spider, which the web symbolizes. It also continues to make the whole snake thing even more confusing.

And since the Goat is the equivalent of the Capricorn, I replaced it with my favorite animal, the Turtle - the only other animal, aside from the snake, to break the "no animal symbols" rule. Because I just liked that.

The five flowers set is actually a personal in-joke. In another game I ran, I had five magical daggers and associated them with these five flowers; this is referencing that.

As correctly identified, the Ability set is referencing the ability score; Constitution is meant to be represented by the Lemon because of it being not an easy thing to eat whole, and Votex is Charisma because it attracts things toward itself.

For the seven sins, Ladder is actually the one meant to represent Pride, as it is used to put yourself higher than other people; the mirror is meant to represent Lust, because that one is all about actually gratifying yourself instead of your partner, in my reading of the sin. The balloon stands for Gluttony, the arrow is for Envy, and the chains are for Greed - the gold chains that binds you to hell, as it were.

The Hero set is indeed about the avengers; most of those are obvious, but I'll note that the flask is Hulk, the bag is Iron Man, and the apple is Black Widow. I had the web and the apple in each other place at one point, but then decided it'd be funnier the other way around.

The four virtues are Charity, Honesty, Prudence and Hope; the lamp is for prudence, the grapes are for honesty, the bread for charity, and the anchor for hope. They are my four favorites of the seven cardinal virtues; I didn't think the other three were worth presenting, due to my personal preference on which thing are and are not, in fact, virtues. I didn't expect anybody to figure this one out either, this was just for myself.

As for the equipment: it's the thirteen magic item slots, plus weapons and slotless items (which are represented by the dagger and map, respectively); I'll leave it up to you to identify how the rest match to the various slots, it shouldn't be too hard.
This message was last edited by the GM at 19:34, Sat 17 Sept 2022.
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