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[OOC] General Discussion 1.

Posted by FateFor group 0
Skelos
Ghost, 17 posts
Sage of Salvanas
Thaumaturgical ghost
Tue 1 Mar 2022
at 04:46
  • msg #37

OOC 1

So, a lot less tides, but still some, since the solar Cor interaction is still a thing.  Honestly, I was thinking Yellowstone blew its lid again, and that was the cause of a lot less population... one of the reasons I'm really for the   creation of the Yellowstone Thermal project.

Yes, I'm on hold.
Skelos
Ghost, 18 posts
Sage of Salvanas
Thaumaturgical ghost
Mon 7 Mar 2022
at 02:15
  • msg #38

OOC 1

 I've been somewhat swamped with various  volunteer related issues, I should have a post ready sometime next week, which will hopefully not only be interesting, but provide other Godly beings some fuel for Godly things.
Grootwithaai
Shark, 19 posts
Tue 8 Mar 2022
at 17:38
  • msg #39

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To me it kind of sounded like a terminator style robit uprising. The maelstrom might be a human or robot made phenomena akin to humans darkening the skies in the matrix.

But that's just my impression.
Fate
GM, 34 posts
Tue 8 Mar 2022
at 20:29
  • msg #40

Re: OOC 1

Skelos:
Or try and create one.

I don't mean now, but later.    After you've got some worshipers, or something.


See the Miracle rules. Altering an existing thing costs less than Innovating something brand new from scratch.

Grootwithaai:
I do like the idea of the moon being blown apart and the Tides no longer being a thing.


I forget if I've mentioned the moons already, but there are two moons, one of which is was forged with necromancy and is referred to as The Eye of God (bonus points if you get the reference).

Grootwithaai:
To me it kind of sounded like a terminator style robit uprising. The maelstrom might be a human or robot made phenomena akin to humans darkening the skies in the matrix.

But that's just my impression.


It's a Mystery(tm). You can investigate this, either directly, or through your Followers once you have them. There are rewards for doing so.
Fate
GM, 35 posts
Tue 8 Mar 2022
at 20:29
  • msg #41

Re: OOC 1

+sigh+ Somehow, rpol didn't tell me about any of your posts until somebody PM'd me, and I was foolish and didn't check manually.

Apologies, folks. Adjudications incoming.
Grootwithaai
Shark, 20 posts
Fri 11 Mar 2022
at 04:00
  • msg #42

Re: OOC 1

Man these threads are so layered in metaphor and symbolism I get so lost.

The only way this makes sense to me is that the everstorm was triggered by a machine to sweep across the world opening Bunkers and fallout shelters killing thousands of mortals
Fate
GM, 39 posts
Fri 11 Mar 2022
at 05:12
  • msg #43

Re: OOC 1

The gods of an alternate universe (or possibly several, depending on races selected) have all tried to save their followers by opening a portal to this world, and they're all jumping through. The Everstorm broke the door into several doors.

The machine stuff did cause the Everstorm to expand significantly. Original plan was to have everybody land within a 200mile stripe of the planet. Now they're all over the place, but in smaller starting pops, meaning more Small Gods are getting followers.

It's not so much a metaphor as it is easily translatable to things that are comprehensible in the modern day. The thing I said earlier about using "necromancy" wherever you'd normally write "industrial" is a player conceit to help translate into the world. In-game, it is necromancy.

Anbaric Forces basically means electricity, but Anbaric Forces are going to be semi-sentient (though maybe not sapient, I haven't decided yet).
This message was last edited by the GM at 05:14, Fri 11 Mar 2022.
Grootwithaai
Shark, 21 posts
Fri 11 Mar 2022
at 16:21
  • msg #44

Re: OOC 1

Oooohhhh that clears things up considerably. I took necromancy to actually mean just regular industry so all of our perceptions of a normal world were just warped and distorted.

My head canon was that the apocalypse was an AI revolt a la terminator and we perceived machines and robots as evil because we they were not natural and had no souls.
This message was last edited by the player at 16:22, Fri 11 Mar 2022.
Skelos
Ghost, 19 posts
Sage of Salvanas
Thaumaturgical ghost
Fri 11 Mar 2022
at 19:18
  • msg #45

Re: OOC 1

Got to pull out here folks.

Life tossed a wrench into my plans, kind of personal, so I'll leave it as that,  but I've got to find the exit.  Have fun.
Iridiana
An Untethered, 12 posts
I got my lifetime, but
i snuck back in line
Fri 11 Mar 2022
at 19:47
  • msg #46

Re: OOC 1

Sorry to see you leave, Skelos. Hoping you'll return when things quiet down again on... whatever tossed that wrench.

Take care :)
Fate
GM, 40 posts
Fri 11 Mar 2022
at 20:35
  • msg #47

Re: OOC 1

Sorry to see you go, Skelos. One day, we'll be in a game together, I swear :)

Let us know if you're ever ready to rejoin.

quote:
My head canon was that the apocalypse was an AI revolt a la terminator and we perceived machines and robots as evil because we they were not natural and had no souls.


Well, you've got the "because" half correct, I'd hope that I had made that part clear by now. Although, they have no "spirits," which may or may not be different from "souls." Hmmm, going to have to find a buddhist to argue that one over a pint or three. Maybe grab someone versed in one of those western religions to join in.

I believe the only info you have is that there was an apocalypse and the skeleton/bots survived it. Kinda prejudiced of you to assume that the skeletons are responsible for it :P , just because they're soulless automatons hellbent on....well, I mean, you haven't even met an (un)living skeleton yet to see what they're hellbent on.
Grootwithaai
Shark, 23 posts
Wed 16 Mar 2022
at 01:42
  • msg #48

Re: OOC 1

Poke, apparently Fate sometimes doesn't get poke updates for this game
Iridiana
An Untethered, 13 posts
I got my lifetime, but
i snuck back in line
Wed 16 Mar 2022
at 11:54
  • msg #49

Re: OOC 1

Happens to me too on occasion. I see there have been replies, i check the thread and make a mental note to reply later when i'm home again.

Then, once i get home and log onto RPoL, because i checked the thread earlier the number's back to being white and i mistakenly assume there have been no new replies.
Iridiana
An Untethered, 14 posts
I got my lifetime, but
i snuck back in line
Mon 21 Mar 2022
at 13:14
  • msg #50

Re: OOC 1

quote:
Assuming you collect Trivial souls (d4s), through the entire everstorm, in a way harmonious to your godhood, you could collect hundreds upon hundreds of thousands of them for 60 Belief (Base Cost 2 * 15 (Cost Factor 1 -1 +5 +1 = 6, lookup on table)

Or, if you do it harmoniously, you could instantly grab 10 Legendary souls (d12s) for 6 Belief. (Base 6 * 1 (Cost Factor 1 -1 +1 = 1, lookup on table).


Okay, so that's 60 Belief in both cases.

To get an indication of scale, how much Belief do i actually have?
Ninth Augmented Fifth
A Memory, 13 posts
Mon 21 Mar 2022
at 13:57
  • msg #51

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Per the Rules thread, we start with 10 Belief
Fate
GM, 44 posts
Mon 21 Mar 2022
at 17:16
  • msg #52

Re: OOC 1

In reply to Iridiana (msg # 50):

No, a legendary alteration is base 6.

Grabbing 10 souls is +1, but doing it in harmony with your inclinations is -1, so the total cost factor is 1, which is x1, so the cost for 10 legendary souls would be a 6 Belief.

You start with 10 Belief.
Iridiana
An Untethered, 15 posts
I got my lifetime, but
i snuck back in line
Mon 21 Mar 2022
at 19:47
  • msg #53

Re: OOC 1

quote:
you could collect hundreds upon hundreds of thousands of them for 60 Belief (Base Cost 2 * 15 (Cost Factor 1 -1 +5 +1 = 6, lookup on table)


Okay, so what's that 15 doing there? And how does 2 * 15(6) equal 60?
Fate
GM, 46 posts
Mon 21 Mar 2022
at 20:36
  • msg #54

Re: OOC 1

TABLE 5 - 6: COST FACTOR MULTIPLIER
Cost Factor:123456789101112
Multiply the Base Cost By:x1x2x4x8x15x30x60x125x250x500x1,000x2,000

Because a 6 on the lookup table is x30, not x15. Apologies. I spent over 30 minutes trying to pick an instructive example and went through several variations, and there was a version where the Cost Factor was 5 not 6.
Iridiana
An Untethered, 16 posts
I got my lifetime, but
i snuck back in line
Mon 21 Mar 2022
at 21:20
  • msg #55

Re: OOC 1

And is there a downside to running out of Belief* when you have no Followers?

* This is obviously a bad idea without having a way to recover it, just asking for completion.
Fate
GM, 48 posts
Mon 21 Mar 2022
at 21:43
  • msg #56

Re: OOC 1

Rules as Written, your god instantly dies with 0 Followers and 0 Belief.

In my setting, you become even less self-aware and magically smaller, no longer a Small God, but a Tiny God.

Your maximum Belief Gain is capped by your followers, so without Followers, you can't gain any Belief. Without Belief, you can't do much of anything that will earn you Followers.

Out of game, your character is effectively dead. You might be able to get someone to gift you Followers or Belief, but outside of Player whims, that seems pretty unlikely to happen, and the exchange rate is pretty poor. You might be able to luck into taking credit for something miraculous-seeming that a Follower witnesses, at which point you'd have 1 Follower and 1 Belief.
Iridiana
An Untethered, 17 posts
I got my lifetime, but
i snuck back in line
Mon 21 Mar 2022
at 23:50
  • msg #57

Re: OOC 1

Figured, thanks :)

quote:
Note that souls, being dead, do not count as Followers, and will not help you generate Belief until you find something to do with them, which will take another miracle. You can either specify that:
  • you take them at the moment of death, for the "Belief refund" you get when performing miracles in front of Believers, OR
  • you can take the ones have already started to swim down the River, which will have a story effect, and can be done using the Everstorm for much cheaper (Base Cost without multiplier), and will also have a story effect. Trying to use the Everstorm to affect still-living souls would be....ill-advised.


So can i ask what the difference between these two options is? The multiplier is i assume the cost factor thing?
Fate
GM, 50 posts
Mon 21 Mar 2022
at 23:55
  • msg #58

Re: OOC 1

You're correct about the multiplier.

Since your character understands less about how miracles work than you do right now, I'm going to ask you to make a choice based on the info you have available.

Do you want to gather these souls as they're getting up from their seats (ie, moment of death), or as they're leaving the platform (ie, dead fora couple of seconds, but still within range)?
Iridiana
An Untethered, 18 posts
I got my lifetime, but
i snuck back in line
Tue 22 Mar 2022
at 00:21
  • msg #59

Re: OOC 1

Hmm... Hard choice.

The original idea was 'moment of death', but then on the second option i see two separate mentions of 'This will have a story effect' which looks interesting as well.

So let's see if i understand correctly. Since 'Leaving the platform' ignores the multiplier, would that mean i just pay the base cost and every multiplier counts as x1, or would the multiplier be unavailable and i could only use it to gain individuals?
This message was last edited by the player at 00:22, Tue 22 Mar 2022.
Fate
GM, 51 posts
Tue 22 Mar 2022
at 06:26
  • msg #60

Re: OOC 1

See what I did with Ninth's post. The miracle will be like that. I'll roll randomly for the factors that increase the cost
Iridiana
An Untethered, 19 posts
I got my lifetime, but
i snuck back in line
Tue 22 Mar 2022
at 11:38
  • msg #61

Re: OOC 1

Hmm.. Okay, you know what, for the purposes of learning the game, let's go for broke.

I'll spend 8 Belief on harmoniously gathering 10 Legendary Souls.

6 for the souls themselves, +1 for them having both a high Mind and high Spirit stat and another +1 for gathering them for the duration of the Everstorm.

It's a bit of an investment, and i'll likely end up growing the slowest out of all the players due to how much Belief this is going to cost me, but i'll get a nice 'core' of heroes for my future religion out of it.
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