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Hello everyone! I am really excited for this game!

Player two, did you have any thoughts about whether you wanted to go gestalt or not? I personally prefer it, but won't be heartbroken if you prefer non-gestalt.

How about templates? I don't have any templates in mind for my own character, but I haven't really looked into them either.

I guess some of this depends on your character concept as well. What type of character do you hope to play? I myself am hoping to have a character that combines a Ring of Continuation and the spell Shapechange. Maybe Fighter/wizard if we go gestalt, or a divine caster if we don't.

And if you have any thoughts about a potential shared background, let me know. I haven't really thought about my character's background yet at this point in character creation, but I know some people start there.

Hello Player One! I too am super excited about this game! I am 100% on board with gestalt and I do like the thought of us each having a template, as I really, really, really, love playing half-celestials...:-)

As for character concept, I normally prefer to play utility based casters who are skill monkeys and good at melee combat. However, I am open to play anything should you wish to play such. As for shared background, I am more than happy to explore any concept you would like. A couple that come to mind are, we could be siblings, a couple, a married couple, or just besties...:-)
This message was last edited by the player at 15:09, Thu 24 Feb 2022.

Being siblings could be fun. Especially if we are close to the same age. (I was considering possibly being an old geezer.) Even if we don't end up being the same race, we could still be adoptive siblings. Let's wait and see how character creation goes before anything is set in stone though.

I will go with my fighter/wizard concept then, I think. He is going to be great with the natural weapons weapon group, and I am going to take the Knowledge is Power arcane discovery to be ridiculously good at combat maneuvers in his various Shapechange shapes.

If you know any good templates for such a character on par with the half-celestial template you like, please link it/them to me!

For skills, I will probably only focus on the wizardy-type skills. I'll probably have couple item creation feats as well. Oh! And I will have a familiar that has the potential to be shapeshifting right alongside me as well.

I will do that after work. As for your "old geezer" concept, I could always be your doting, only daughter...:-D

Also, are we going to be the good guys, the bad guys, or somewhere in between? I'm good with any of them.

If we go with the possibility of you being my daughter, and you are half celestial... Then that means... Hmm. It means my backstory is probably quite interesting indeed!

I don't really have a preference for good vs bad. I usually lean more toward a neutral stance, but mainly because I like using the Animate Dead and Blood Transcription spells when it is allowed. Other than using those evil spells though, it really doesn't matter to me how good or evil we go. (And if we want to go full good guys, I am fine with skipping those spells for this game.)

It just means you and an angel got BUSY!...:-D

Here are a few templates I think fit a Fighter/Wizard fairly well.

Half-Dragon: https://www.d20pfsrd.com/besti...mplates/half-dragon/

Mutant: https://www.d20pfsrd.com/besti...utant-creature-cr-1/

Outer Mutant: https://www.d20pfsrd.com/besti...s/outer-mutant-cr-1/

Simple Template (Advanced): https://www.d20pfsrd.com/besti...anced-creature-cr-1/

Worm That Walks (If evil): https://www.d20pfsrd.com/besti...orm-that-walks-cr-2/

For a worm that walks, don't feel restricted to worms. It could be something other than worms too - butterflies, sparrows, animated chunks of stone... Maybe it changes. It could be a curse - perhaps we could have you take the evil subtype but not be evil.  I think most templates could be justified by level 20 with some of the fluff reworked.
This message was last edited by the GM at 17:39, Thu 24 Feb 2022.

Oooo...a swarm of butterflies sounds cool!

Worm that Walks sounds amazing, but unfortunately I don't think it will synergize well with my goal for a character concept. I think the Half-Dragon template might work best, largely because of the enormous strength boost. (The other perks are certainly nice too though.) But am I correct in my understanding that the breath weapon won't work for me since I have no racial HD?

Actually, perhaps the Half-Umbral Dragon Template might be a slightly better fit: https://www.d20pfsrd.com/besti...-umbral-dragon-cr-2/

You are technically correct about the half-dragon breath weapon. However, groups that I have played with have always just said class levels since it's only usable once a day. That of course would be up to our most gracious Gamemaster...:-)

It's RAI to treat levels as HD for a half-dragon in my opinion.