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The Pub Crawl:  OOC.

Posted by Dungeon MasterFor group archive 0
Dungeon Master
GM, 7 posts
Wed 16 Mar 2022
at 00:57
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Hi Everyone!

This thread is for any and all OOC chatter.
Dungeon Master
GM, 8 posts
Wed 16 Mar 2022
at 00:57
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Okay!

We have a neat little group, but you've all been working with me individually.  Time to meet each other.  As of now, we have:
  • Dame Tiegen Chanice, a human bard (aiming for the College of Lore), with a little touch of the Feywild in her history.
  • Hannah Demsersk, a human paladin,
  • HuMu Ninn, a kenku wizard (aiming for the Order of Scribes), and
  • Shera Draxalia, a human warlock (aiming for the Pact of the Tome),


Obviously, I have a very bookish group on my hands.  :)  This gives us a lot of places to tie in the histories together, so it's not so much a random group of strangers meeting in a tavern somewhere...

We're at four players right now, which I think is a good starting number, so it's time to start working on histories.  I hope you don't mind, but I'd like to try an experiment of sorts.

I'm going to be setting up History threads for each of you.  I'll prompt you with questions about your character's history, and you can answer them (hopefully in a short story format).  I'm leaving them open, so that as you read through each other's you might see areas in which you might have previously interacted.  If you don't see one, or it doesn't happen organically, I do have a few tools I can use to help you all out.

For those are familiar: yes, this will resemble the heroic chronicle set out in Explorer's Guide to Wildemount, starting on page 191.  I found that toolkit to be excellent help when it comes to creating deep characters that I can really crawl into their skin, but it is focused on the individual.  A few years back I backed a kickstarter project called backstory cards, which is useful for creating shared story elements between two or more characters, so I'm going for a blend of the two toolkits.
Dungeon Master
GM, 10 posts
Wed 16 Mar 2022
at 01:05
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Our story will begin in Eastern Wynandir -- in Xhorhas, and specifically around the Vermaloc Wildwood.  It will branch out from there and travel will be involved, but if you were interested and if it helps spark your creative energies, go for it!
This message was last edited by the GM at 01:23, Wed 16 Mar 2022.
Dungeon Master
GM, 16 posts
Wed 16 Mar 2022
at 06:37
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Oh and before we go too far, I feel I should tell you all: I'm only on episode 42 of campaign 1 on Critical Role.  Please use the <spoiler> tag if you happen to discuss the show or the podcast.


Spoiler text: (Highlight or hover over the text to view)
I'm at the start of the Chroma Conclave storyline.

HuMu Ninn
player, 3 posts
Thu 17 Mar 2022
at 00:50
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On my sweet summer child. You are in for such a wonderful ride.
Dungeon Master
GM, 19 posts
Thu 17 Mar 2022
at 01:49
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Oh, I know.  I'm consuming everything as fast as I can.  I downloaded all the podcast episodes, put them into an audiobook format and now I listen to it everywhere I go.  When I'm washing dishes, when I'm taking the kids to school, when I'm walking the dog...

I will catch up eventually, but it will take quite a while.  I just wanted to explain that before we got into it, so if there are differences between the way I describe something and the way Matt describes something, that's probably the result me not having gotten there in the story yet.
Dungeon Master
GM, 21 posts
Thu 17 Mar 2022
at 06:41
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We have a few new players coming in, so bear with me while I get them up to speed.

While we're waiting, did any of you catch the Legend of Vox Machina animate series?  What did you think?
TBD-B
player, 1 post
Thu 17 Mar 2022
at 06:49
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New person here....a big fan of critical role and the series was great. Branched into the briarwood arc of the game which has a spotlight on Percy.

Good mix of humour, action, etc.

...and only Sam reigel would figure out how to get a rock song in a medieval style game
Dungeon Master
GM, 22 posts
Thu 17 Mar 2022
at 06:56
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Sometimes I think the best part of the liveplay show is the creative ways they justify what they're doing -- which got lost a little bit in the translation to animation.

The justification for Scanlon polymorphing into a Triceratops was just brilliant.  And I think the whole fight sequence between Scanlon and Duke Vedmire was just was better in the liveplay show.  Also disappointed we didn't get the see the K'varn storyline either.  I guess there was just not enough time/budget to play it all out, and I think they made the right call, but... ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
TBD-B
player, 2 posts
Thu 17 Mar 2022
at 06:59
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Theirs rumors of more seasons of it which will be good if it happens. The chroma conclave is hinted in the animation and big at the end  so theirs room to grow.

But what they packed into 12 episodes was pretty good
Shera Draxalia
player, 1 post
Thu 17 Mar 2022
at 09:07
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Hi everyone. Hope you all are doing well. My husband and I are still in campaign 1 of critical role too, but sounds like we are farther along than you, for now. Sorry I haven't posted in my history thread yet. Will be working on that between tonight and tomorrow so hopefully I can get something good up for you guys soon. Looking forward to reading what you all have as well. ^_^
Kay (name tbd)
player, 1 post
Thu 17 Mar 2022
at 10:28
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Hello everyone, glad to be here. Still working on the char concept and ideas, that will come soon.

As for critical role, I had vaguely heard of them but I never listened to their podcasts. I'm a visual learner and hearing people talking of playing a game I love would put me to sleep.

I did watch The Legend of Vox Machina and loved every minute of it though.
This message was last edited by the player at 12:16, Thu 17 Mar 2022.
Hannah Demsersk
player, 3 posts
Thu 17 Mar 2022
at 10:35
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I loved the legend of Vox Machina too. Hope we get a season 2
Rain
player, 3 posts
Thu 17 Mar 2022
at 11:00
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it would be crazy not to
HuMu Ninn
player, 7 posts
Fri 18 Mar 2022
at 01:48
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Anyone else sitting down to critical role tonight?
TBD-A
player, 1 post
Fri 18 Mar 2022
at 01:53
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I generally watch it the day after so that I can watch at x2 speed, unless I have nothing going on that night. If I was just making posts tonight instead of working on a character backstory, I'd probably tune in for the live.
Dungeon Master
GM, 31 posts
Fri 18 Mar 2022
at 01:56
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Thursday night for them is Friday midday for me, so no.  Besides -- so far behind...

I did cross over into C1,Ep43: Return to Vassalheim yesterday, so still making forward progress.  As long as I listen to more than 4 hours a week, I will eventually catch up (in a year or two, tops.  ;))
Dungeon Master
GM, 58 posts
Mon 21 Mar 2022
at 04:24
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Hi Everyone!

In case you need a place to make private notes to yourself, I've created a special NPC called The Archive.

If you want to make and save a note to yourself about the game, send a private message to The Archive.  Only you and I (as the DM) will have access to the PM (this is required as I'm ultimately responsible for the content of the game).
Shera Draxalia
Human Warlock, 7 posts
Mon 21 Mar 2022
at 04:41
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Cool thanks. Btw off to start episode 92 of campaign 1 Critical Role. So close and yet so far from finishing campaign 1. Hope you all are enjoying whatever episodes or shows you're watching.
Rain
Tabaxi Ranger, 11 posts
Mon 21 Mar 2022
at 04:43
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Campaign 2 for me
Kursak
Half-Goliath Cleric, 11 posts
Mon 21 Mar 2022
at 05:03
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I'm on the most recent episode. I currently have my Prime sub on a Diablo 2 Resurrected streamer to help him out a bit, so I have to wait until tomorrow afternoon to see last week's. If you're not watching the old episodes at a faster speed, I highly recommend it. I watch it all on x2 speed unless I happen to watch it live.
Sir Klaven Bobcat Ellis
Human Bard, 17 posts
Grinner, Performer, Liar
Viva le Verve
Mon 21 Mar 2022
at 05:14
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I gave up C3. Too much Woke-Mobism
Rain
Tabaxi Ranger, 12 posts
Mon 21 Mar 2022
at 05:19
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Exandria unlimited has many mercer as a player. That looks interesting
Dungeon Master
GM, 59 posts
Mon 21 Mar 2022
at 05:27
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I'm on Campaign 1, Episode 44.  But I listen to it as an audiobook, and I listen everywhere I can:  when driving, when walking the dog, when washing the dishes, etc..  I clear about 2 episodes a week on average.

It's always a bit of a shock to me when I see the players' images.  Some of them don't match their voices in my head at all -- Except Travis: he perfectly matches Grog in my head.
This message was last edited by the GM at 05:29, Mon 21 Mar 2022.
HuMu Ninn
Kenku Wizard, 12 posts
Mon 21 Mar 2022
at 05:29
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Voice aye?
Dungeon Master
GM, 60 posts
Mon 21 Mar 2022
at 05:34
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100%
HuMu Ninn
Kenku Wizard, 13 posts
Mon 21 Mar 2022
at 05:37
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There is no limit to my interest as to what voice HuMu has in your head.
Dungeon Master
GM, 61 posts
Mon 21 Mar 2022
at 05:43
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Given the Kenku's ability at mimicry, I basically hear an Australian Lyrebird in my head with I think of Humu.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VjE0Kdfos4Y
Frilia
Gnome Fighter, 10 posts
Mon 21 Mar 2022
at 10:20
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In reply to Dungeon Master (msg # 28):

That is really impressive!
Dungeon Master
GM, 62 posts
Mon 21 Mar 2022
at 23:14
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Okay!

I think we're all done with the background (or nearly so).  I want to thank you all for your patience.  I believe this process makes for better characters and a better experience over all.

At this point we have:

Felix and Minho, who both know Frilia and Rain, having spent the last few days travelling in a merchant caravan heading south from Rexxentrum.  The caravan stopped in Zadash (which is where Rain joined up) before heading south towards the Menagerie Coast.

Frilia who has a strong childhood connection to Kursak, and more recent connections to Felix, Minho, and Rain.  She's in the caravan heading south from Zadash.

Hannah, who has a connection to Sir Klevan Bobcat Ellis (and possibly to Humu -- work in progress).  Hannah's completed her training at Honour's Rest, a small temple to the Platinum Dragon situated near the larger Stone of the Archheart (the temple to the Corellon the Archheart).

Humu Ninn, who has connection to (Klevan and/or Hannah -- work in progress).  Humu's in Westruun, at Bahamut's Rest.

Kursak, who has a strong childhood connection to Frilia.  He's on the Blightshore, studing the energies of Life and Death in that very weird place.

Rain. who has a childhood connection to Shera, and recent connections to Frilia, Felix, and Minho.  She's in the caravan heading south from Zadash.

Shera Draxalia, who has a childhood connection to Rain.  She's just left her hometown of Feolinn, on the Menagerie Coast, looking for rare alchemical ingredients.

and

Sir Klevan Bobcat Ellis, who has connections to Hannah (and possibly to Humu -- work in progress).  Klevan has recently left the circus and is travelling, seeking stories far and wide.

Did I miss anything?  Anyone?  Anyone want to add anything before we begin?  I'll give it a day or so, and start drafting the first post in the meantime.

Things I still need:
  • background connection work from Humu, Hannah, Klevan (in progress)
  • Shera, I need you to tell me which of her weapons is the ancient one.

This message was last edited by the GM at 04:54, Tue 22 Mar 2022.
Felix
Human Bard, 4 posts
Tue 22 Mar 2022
at 00:11
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Looks good on Felix's end.  Thanks!
Lee Minho
Human Rogue, 8 posts
AC 14| HP 10/10
PP 13| PI 10 PIns 11
Tue 22 Mar 2022
at 02:17
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Minho is good to go as well.

I don't know if you were planning to actually close the threads for our histories when we started the game, but I'll probably get inspired to write more scenes from before Minho meets up with the party, so if you could keep ours open I'd appreciate it. :)
Frilia
Gnome Fighter, 12 posts
Tue 22 Mar 2022
at 02:30
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I think my mIcro story is good too, after that she starts her training with an echo knight, Harris, since the magic spark she has is not enough to make a mage out of her, but enough to summon an echo, with time and practice.
Dungeon Master
GM, 63 posts
Wed 23 Mar 2022
at 03:11
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Because I know you're all itching to start, just an update.  I've written about 1600 words so far, and I've gotten 1/3rd of the party half way to the starting point.

This first post is likely to be a **long** one, but once we get moving, it should pick up quite naturally.
Hannah Demsersk
Human Paladin, 9 posts
Wed 23 Mar 2022
at 05:57
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sounds great
Rain
Tabaxi Ranger, 14 posts
Wed 23 Mar 2022
at 06:48
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sounds good to me
Dungeon Master
GM, 66 posts
Thu 24 Mar 2022
at 01:42
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In games past, I have found it useful to separate speech from non-speech by use of text colours.  I've seen many people adopt the same custom.

For the sake of consistency, if you plan to use a speech colour, can you please let me know now, so we can avoid confusing matters?

StandardCharacter(s)
RedHumu (mimicry)
Orange  
Aqua Klevan
Blue  
DarkBlueShera
Green  
DarkGreen  
Brown  
Purple Frilia
YellowHannah
Pink  
RoyalRedMinho
Coral  
Goldenrod  
Seagreen Rain
PeriwinkleFelix
Lavender ::Yukiko (Frilia's Familiar)::
Rose  
Gray Kursak

This message was last edited by the GM at 10:14, Thu 24 Mar 2022.
HuMu Ninn
Kenku Wizard, 14 posts
Thu 24 Mar 2022
at 01:46
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All of them... as need occurs!
Felix Takmarin
Human Bard, 5 posts
Thu 24 Mar 2022
at 01:46
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Periwinkle for Felix!
This message was last edited by the player at 14:16, Thu 24 Mar 2022.
Lee Minho
Human Rogue, 12 posts
AC 14| HP 10/10
PP 13| PI 10 PIns 11
Thu 24 Mar 2022
at 01:46
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Minho is Royalred


NPC's from Minho's background use (just for possible future reference)
Chan-Dark Green
Jisung-Gray
Sari-Periwinkle
This message was last edited by the player at 01:49, Thu 24 Mar 2022.
Frilia
Gnome Fighter, 17 posts
Thu 24 Mar 2022
at 01:46
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Purple for Frilia
Aqua for Yukiko

Orange
for OOC!
This message was last edited by the player at 01:47, Thu 24 Mar 2022.
Rain
Tabaxi Ranger, 16 posts
Thu 24 Mar 2022
at 01:49
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Rain will take Seagreen
Kursak
Half-Goliath Cleric, 15 posts
Thu 24 Mar 2022
at 01:50
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I've used blue on this site for so long that I type it subconsciously now. I can almost guarantee you I will slide back into it without even thinking about it, so be prepared for me to steal it now and then out of pure habit.

However, I'm going to try Gray.

Orange for OOC, as always.
Dungeon Master
GM, 67 posts
Thu 24 Mar 2022
at 01:51
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In reply to HuMu Ninn (msg # 38):

Yes!  You, as mimicking, get to use them all!  If it gets too hard for you to keep up, what's your default colour?
HuMu Ninn
Kenku Wizard, 15 posts
Thu 24 Mar 2022
at 02:08
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red with Italics so people know its all mimics
Frilia
Gnome Fighter, 18 posts
Thu 24 Mar 2022
at 02:44
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Never saw a Kenku being played, gonna be interesting
Rain
Tabaxi Ranger, 17 posts
Thu 24 Mar 2022
at 02:45
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me neither...and likewise interested
HuMu Ninn
Kenku Wizard, 16 posts
Thu 24 Mar 2022
at 02:47
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Go easy on me. XD
Rain
Tabaxi Ranger, 18 posts
Thu 24 Mar 2022
at 02:48
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Hey....i'm a runty tabaxi girl who has a bow and arrow - you should go easy on me!

Besides, She's not beyond some fun - the whole mimic thing she will encourage
Kursak
Half-Goliath Cleric, 16 posts
Thu 24 Mar 2022
at 02:53
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The first time I played a kenku, I copied fun/useful phrases from all the players and NPCs that we encountered and then built sentences out all of it. After 4 months, the DM deleted the game with no communication or explanation at all, and all that work went poof.

It was fun while it lasted, but it also really sucked for it to end like that and most of the work to have been for nothing. I've kenku a couple of times since, but I haven't bothered to put in that much work again.
Rain
Tabaxi Ranger, 19 posts
Thu 24 Mar 2022
at 02:56
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that would be a let down.  I'd love to play a kenku....rogue, ranger or sorcorer
HuMu Ninn
Kenku Wizard, 17 posts
Thu 24 Mar 2022
at 03:00
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Order of the scribes wizard. At some point HuMu will write with all four limbs. =P
Kursak
Half-Goliath Cleric, 17 posts
Thu 24 Mar 2022
at 03:01
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I have one in an all-bards group right now, who uses the mimicry to basically beatbox. Or rather, that was the plan for him. The DM disappeared about 2 weeks ago, so I wouldn't be surprised if it's dead already. =\
Frilia
Gnome Fighter, 19 posts
Thu 24 Mar 2022
at 03:02
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A raven Kenku warlock following the raven queen with pact of the chain and mystic adept wizard and find familiar... you are your own murder of ravens lol
Rain
Tabaxi Ranger, 20 posts
Thu 24 Mar 2022
at 03:04
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that is a pretty cool idea
Hannah Demsersk
Human Paladin, 10 posts
Thu 24 Mar 2022
at 03:28
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Ill take yellow then
Shera Draxalia
Human Warlock, 9 posts
Thu 24 Mar 2022
at 03:55
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I'll take darkblue if no one's got it yet.
Sir Klaven Bobcat Ellis
Human Bard, 19 posts
Grinner, Performer, Liar
Viva le Verve
Thu 24 Mar 2022
at 05:39
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aqua I suppose
Frilia Silverstring
Gnome Fighter, 21 posts
Thu 24 Mar 2022
at 15:31
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Great novella GM, and awesome start everyone, let's keep that ball rolling!
Frilia Silverstring
Gnome Fighter, 22 posts
Thu 24 Mar 2022
at 15:59
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Klaven, you might have confused my char with Shera in your post. Frilia arrives with Minho, Felix and Rain and doesn't know your char ;-)
Kursak
Half-Goliath Cleric, 19 posts
Thu 24 Mar 2022
at 16:09
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I had to keep mine short and simple since I'm working in the office today.
Sir Klaven Bobcat Ellis
Human Bard, 21 posts
Grinner, Performer, Liar
Viva le Verve
Thu 24 Mar 2022
at 16:29
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Re: The Pub Crawl:  OOC

Frilia Silverstring:
Klaven, you might have confused my char with Shera in your post. Frilia arrives with Minho, Felix and Rain and doesn't know your char ;-)

Edit made
Dungeon Master
GM, 72 posts
Thu 24 Mar 2022
at 21:15
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Re: The Pub Crawl:  OOC

Love it!  Love the effort you've all put in!  Hope I can keep up!  I mean, I know I have to, since I'm driving, but you get what I mean.

The quality here is superb!
Dungeon Master
GM, 75 posts
Fri 25 Mar 2022
at 11:49
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Okay, everyone.  Can you all do me a favour?

Just so we eliminate any sort of ambiguity, if you're doing something specific in your post (making an action, trying to accomplish something), can you drop a <hr> at the end of your post and wrap it all in a set of <small>...</small> tags, and then call out specifically what you're doing?  This makes it easier for me, since I don't have to guess.

If it's an action that relates to a skill check, go ahead and roll the dice and include it in your footer.  If it's the wrong roll, or it's not necessary, I can ignore it.  But if it's right, it saves me a little bit of time.

I'm going to use a couple of examples to illustrate:

Kursak:
Others nearby were speaking of seeking shelter from the weather, and Kursak glanced around for any sign of ill will among them. Seeing none, Kursak stood once more, "Guardsman, it is plain none here has come to do harm. If it had been their goal, no offense to your station or training, I believe you would have been overpowered and defeated by now. Let us get these poor souls out of this weather so that I can see to the wounded."



11:03, Today: Kursak rolled 22 using 1d20+4.  Insight Check.



Frilia:
I am sorry, I don't know your names.

Going back to the bugbear she continued.

All we want is a roof over our head to get out of this rain, to rest, eat and drink.



Today: Frilia Silverstring rolled 20 using 1d20 with rolls of 20.  persuasion


Frilia:
Ahhhh it does feel good to be dry. Kursak, what are you doing here? I thought you still studying at... wherever your father sent you. How is the old man?

She listened to his answers then smiled.

Oh and I need to keep my figure you know, how else would I keep running circles around you when we fight?



Casting Prestidigitation on anyone who needs cleaning and/or drying!

This message was last edited by the GM at 11:54, Fri 25 Mar 2022.
Frilia Silverstring
Gnome Fighter, 26 posts
Fri 25 Mar 2022
at 11:56
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copy, I'll edit my posts... didn't know this command
Dungeon Master
GM, 76 posts
Fri 25 Mar 2022
at 12:02
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Klevan, make a performance roll!
Sir Klaven Bobcat Ellis
Human Bard, 23 posts
Grinner, Performer, Liar
Viva le Verve
Fri 25 Mar 2022
at 12:03
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I made a second if Humu helps and gives advantage.
Frilia Silverstring
Gnome Fighter, 27 posts
Fri 25 Mar 2022
at 17:50
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Question about minor illusion, GM. It says my illusion can't be bigger than a 5' cube but a 10'X5'X2.5' rectangle still has 5 cubic feet of volume, same as a 10'X10'X1.25' rectangle. I have been using a lot of that math with Mold Earth to create barriers, but I want to have your take on it in this game.

My initial idea is to create a background for Klaven's performance ;)
HuMu Ninn
Kenku Wizard, 19 posts
Fri 25 Mar 2022
at 18:08
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HuMu does plan to help but I'm stuck away from my pc. Work and its observation of a Catholic event today. X.X
Kursak
Half-Goliath Cleric, 22 posts
Fri 25 Mar 2022
at 18:13
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National Tolkien Reading Day
HuMu Ninn
Kenku Wizard, 20 posts
Fri 25 Mar 2022
at 18:37
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I did not know that one.

The one I'm out here about is the attempt to resolve the apparition of Our Lady of Fatima.
Frilia Silverstring
Gnome Fighter, 28 posts
Fri 25 Mar 2022
at 19:54
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Kursak:
National Tolkien Reading Day


There should also be a Robert Jordan reading day, everyone stops and reads Wheel of Time XD
Dungeon Master
GM, 77 posts
Sat 26 Mar 2022
at 03:25
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Frilia Silverstring:
Question about minor illusion, GM. It says my illusion can't be bigger than a 5' cube but a 10'X5'X2.5' rectangle still has 5 cubic feet of volume, same as a 10'X10'X1.25' rectangle. I have been using a lot of that math with Mold Earth to create barriers, but I want to have your take on it in this game.


Pretty much as written, yeah.  Just remember that minor illusion cannot create anything that moves, and once a target realises it's an illusion, it becomes faint for that target.  That includes sound, so while you might use Minor Illusion to back up Klevan's performance, once the audience realises it's an illusion, the magic and wonder fade as well.
Dungeon Master
GM, 81 posts
Sun 27 Mar 2022
at 23:16
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The Pub Crawl:  OOC

Reminder, you do not have to post in initiative order -- I will rationalise the posts when I sum up each round.

This is also a good time to remind you all about the rule of 1-1-1-1: 1 action, 1 movement, 1 bonus action (if permitted), and 1 reaction (if permitted) per combat round.  Also, please make liberal use of the footer like I have here in this post.  Use <hr> to separate the footer from the body of your post, and give me your actions, movements, bonuses, and reaction (if you have any planned).

This is the first combat of the game.  I'm expecting us to have issues sorting out how we post during combat, etc..  Please, if you're not sure what to do or how to do something, let me know.  You can either ask here, or if you're a little bit shy, you can ask me in PM.
Frilia Silverstring
Gnome Fighter, 33 posts
Sun 27 Mar 2022
at 23:47
  • msg #75

The Pub Crawl:  OOC

Just to make sure I understand, the camp is under attack and both the south and north gates are opened? I'll need an answer to that before I can post.
Sir Klaven Bobcat Ellis
Human Bard, 27 posts
Grinner, Performer, Liar
Viva le Verve
Sun 27 Mar 2022
at 23:50
  • msg #76

The Pub Crawl:  OOC

Map url gives 404
Dungeon Master
GM, 82 posts
Sun 27 Mar 2022
at 23:54
  • msg #77

The Pub Crawl:  OOC

@Frilia: yes, correct.

@Klaven, this is the link you should have, yes? https://i.ibb.co/L9029tq/Logging-Camp-r1sv.png
Shera Draxalia
Human Warlock, 15 posts
Sun 27 Mar 2022
at 23:55
  • msg #78

The Pub Crawl:  OOC

Do we still get the 'free object interaction' as stated on page 190 in the players handbook? Also when you say 1 movement do you mean up to our character's speed or one movement regardless of whether we use our full speed or not? Would it be possible for Shera to wait until after the enemy goes to post her round actions seeing as how she is second to last in the initiative or would you rather me post a list of contingencies based on what might happen?
Dungeon Master
GM, 83 posts
Mon 28 Mar 2022
at 00:08
  • msg #79

The Pub Crawl:  OOC

Free object interaction, sure... keep in mind the examples given take microseconds to complete (pull a lever, etc.)  When a combat round is 6 seconds, microseconds don't count very much -- more complex actions would be just that: an action.  What did you have in mind?

That also brings me to another point: the entire round happens in 6 seconds.  There's not a lot of time to read the battlefield.  Make the best call you can, and work from there.
Dungeon Master
GM, 84 posts
Mon 28 Mar 2022
at 00:11
  • msg #80

The Pub Crawl:  OOC

For movement, you can break up the movement as much as you like, so technically it could be 1,2,3,4,5,6 movements if you want... so long as your total doesn't exceed the amount allowed in your speed.
Shera Draxalia
Human Warlock, 16 posts
Mon 28 Mar 2022
at 00:16
  • msg #81

The Pub Crawl:  OOC

I just had putting Shera's sword down in the ground so that Shera can cast a cantrip in mind as far as the free object interaction.
Dungeon Master
GM, 85 posts
Mon 28 Mar 2022
at 00:17
  • msg #82

The Pub Crawl:  OOC

Yep, that's perfectly okay.  The ground's nice and wet here, so the sword can easily sink into the mud enough to stand up right.
Sir Klaven Bobcat Ellis
Human Bard, 28 posts
Grinner, Performer, Liar
Viva le Verve
Mon 28 Mar 2022
at 00:20
  • msg #83

Re: The Pub Crawl:  OOC

Dungeon Master:
@Frilia: yes, correct.

@Klaven, this is the link you should have, yes? https://i.ibb.co/L9029tq/Logging-Camp-r1sv.png

Yes
Dungeon Master
GM, 86 posts
Mon 28 Mar 2022
at 00:29
  • msg #84

The Pub Crawl:  OOC

The link works for me.  Is anyone else having a problem with it?
Sir Klaven Bobcat Ellis
Human Bard, 30 posts
Grinner, Performer, Liar
Viva le Verve
Mon 28 Mar 2022
at 01:55
  • msg #85

The Pub Crawl:  OOC

New map works.
Kursak
Half-Goliath Cleric, 29 posts
AC 18 HP 9/9
Vigilant Blessing: Used
Mon 28 Mar 2022
at 01:58
  • msg #86

The Pub Crawl:  OOC

All of the map links work for me. #mamasaysimspecial
Sir Klaven Bobcat Ellis
Human Bard, 31 posts
Grinner, Performer, Liar
Viva le Verve
Mon 28 Mar 2022
at 05:48
  • msg #87

The Pub Crawl:  OOC

#yourmamasaysImspecialtoo
Dungeon Master
GM, 89 posts
Tue 29 Mar 2022
at 03:37
  • msg #88

Re: The Pub Crawl:  OOC

Let me know if you have any trouble with the maps.  :)
Dungeon Master
GM, 91 posts
Wed 30 Mar 2022
at 10:11
  • msg #89

Re: The Pub Crawl:  OOC

I had mistakenly forgotten to cross off one of the spiders on the last round of maps.  I have uploaded new maps and corrected the links in the most recent post.
Sir Klaven Bobcat Ellis
Human Bard, 34 posts
Grinner, Performer, Liar
Viva le Verve
Wed 30 Mar 2022
at 11:12
  • msg #90

Re: The Pub Crawl:  OOC

I edited my post to reflect casting Healing Words on Rain. I thought hersave meant no damage. I imagine it happening like this:
1. Spider engages
2. Sir Bobcat insults it with V.M
3. Rain moves toward him bleeding
4. He tells her its only a flesh wound
5. Presto she is healed
Dungeon Master
GM, 92 posts
Fri 1 Apr 2022
at 03:48
  • msg #91

Re: The Pub Crawl:  OOC

Just an advance warning: the next post may be delayed slightly.  I'm on an all-day course for work, which is really interesting.  I'll try to work on it tonight, but it's not waiting in the wings ready to go; I still have to write it.

Just FYI.
Rain
Tabaxi Ranger, 29 posts
Fri 1 Apr 2022
at 03:55
  • msg #92

Re: The Pub Crawl:  OOC

No probs boss
Shera Draxalia
Human Warlock, 20 posts
Fri 1 Apr 2022
at 05:29
  • msg #93

Re: The Pub Crawl:  OOC

No problem. Good luck with work. Hope it's fun. ^_^
This message had punctuation tweaked by the player at 05:29, Fri 01 Apr 2022.
Dungeon Master
GM, 95 posts
Mon 4 Apr 2022
at 00:07
  • msg #94

Re: The Pub Crawl:  OOC

Update the main post.  I've added the updated bit here, to make it easier to spot.


Because of the heavy rain, any dash actions require an Athletics check (DC: 12) or you slip and fall prone in the mud.

HuMu Ninn
Kenku Wizard, 28 posts
Mon 4 Apr 2022
at 00:08
  • msg #95

Re: The Pub Crawl:  OOC

HuMu Storm Crow! WOOOOO! Bird boi in his element!
Dungeon Master
GM, 96 posts
Mon 4 Apr 2022
at 00:13
  • msg #96

Re: The Pub Crawl:  OOC

Also, for those of you who fail your Wis save, you can reroll at the top of each of your rounds.  Once you have passed, you don't need to reroll again.
Dungeon Master
GM, 97 posts
Mon 4 Apr 2022
at 00:17
  • msg #97

Re: The Pub Crawl:  OOC

HuMu Ninn:
HuMu Storm Crow! WOOOOO! Bird boi in his element!


Nice!  Couldn't have been timed better!
HuMu Ninn
Kenku Wizard, 29 posts
Mon 4 Apr 2022
at 00:25
  • msg #98

Re: The Pub Crawl:  OOC

Power is nothing without presentation.
Frilia Silverstring
Gnome Fighter, 39 posts
Mon 4 Apr 2022
at 00:26
  • msg #99

The Pub Crawl:  OOC

HuMu Ninn:
Power is nothing without presentation.


And you have that in spade, my feathery friend, nicely played!
Sir Klaven Bobcat Ellis
Human Bard, 37 posts
Grinner, Performer, Liar
Viva le Verve
Mon 4 Apr 2022
at 01:33
  • msg #100

Re: The Pub Crawl:  OOC

Dungeon Master:
Update the main post.  I've added the updated bit here, to make it easier to spot.


Because of the heavy rain, any dash actions require an Athletics check (DC: 12) or you slip and fall prone in the mud.

Shouldnt it be acrobatics?
Dungeon Master
GM, 98 posts
Mon 4 Apr 2022
at 01:45
  • msg #101

Re: The Pub Crawl:  OOC

I would personally consider this more athletics, but I'll accept either.  I consider acrobatics more the "navigating between obstacles" or "trying to dodge guards" type of roll, where I think this is a more "muscle power to stay up while the terrain is uncertain."

But like I said, I'll accept either roll.
Dungeon Master
GM, 100 posts
Tue 5 Apr 2022
at 06:23
  • msg #102

Re: The Pub Crawl:  OOC

Okay, so that's the first combat done.  The first combat in a rpol game is usually about figuring out how we're going to run the,.

I ran this one my way, with an eye to not letting the combat drag on forever.
  • players get 48 hours to post
  • people can post out of initiative order, the gm rationalises the posts, resolving actions IN the init order.
    • there's no waiting on someone else
    • you can't know what's already happened when your turn comes around.
    • sometimes your intended action has no target by the time your init order comes up.
    • less back-and-forth between me and the players on clarifying questions
    • less certainty about what's actually happening.


There are other ways to run it -- we could require posts to run in the init order, handing off from player to player.  You'll get more certainty on what's happening and be able to plan your actions better -- but the undeniable trade-off is speed.  We're all real people with real lives outside of rpol, and sometimes can't get to the computer to post, and sometimes we can get there, but our motivation doesn't come with us.  Everyone can and does have bad days, and everyone has different methods of dealing with them.  You could be ready to post, and waiting for the person before you in the init order to go, but they're snowed under at work.

I'm not in love with the second option, but it does have undeniable benefits, so it should be discussed.

I'm also open to other ideas.  If you've seen something that's worked well before, tell us about and let's talk it over.  If any of you are shy, or don't want to bring it up in open chat, you can message me via PM and I can raise the idea for you.  I don't think I have any super-shy players here, but you never know, so I make the offer.

While I'm at it, I am considering starting a discord server, which would give you all a chance to ask clarifying questions "offline" so to speak -- is that something you'd be interested in?  I won't do this unless everyone's up for it, so as to not exclude anyone.  Otherwise we'll keep all the questions and OOC chatter here on this thread.

So to recap:

Combat : What worked well, what didn't, how would you change it?
Discord : Yes or no?  Apparently not.  :)  We'll continue to use this thread to ask any clarifying questions.  I'll try to be as prompt as possible with replying.  generally, that will be faster than a regular post, since I don't have to worry about prosing it up.  :)
This message was last edited by the GM at 09:13, Tue 05 Apr 2022.
Sir Klaven Bobcat Ellis
Human Bard, 39 posts
Grinner, Performer, Liar
Viva le Verve
Tue 5 Apr 2022
at 07:41
  • msg #103

Re: The Pub Crawl:  OOC

Combat - Im good with it as is.
Discord - No. Wait not strong enough. HELL to the N-O.
This message was last edited by the player at 23:10, Tue 05 Apr 2022.
Frilia Silverstring
Gnome Fighter, 40 posts
Tue 5 Apr 2022
at 10:18
  • msg #104

The Pub Crawl:  OOC

Combat went smoothly, and you are using a proven method in RPOL, that works well IMHO, keep it like that.

As for discord, it's a definite yes for me. I started a game here with a discord for the ooc and it works very well.
Lee Minho
Human Rogue, 22 posts
AC 14| HP 10/10
PP 13| PI 10 PIns 11
Tue 5 Apr 2022
at 12:23
  • msg #105

The Pub Crawl:  OOC

Combat- You run it the same as pretty much every GM I've played under in rpol, so I'm fine with this.

Discord- I already use it for most of my other games, so that's a yes from me. I like that if I have a question for a post I get a notification when you've replied rather than having to remember to check and see if you've answered.
Dungeon Master
GM, 101 posts
Tue 5 Apr 2022
at 13:07
  • msg #106

The Pub Crawl:  OOC

If you have an android device, there's an app which does do notifications for RPOL.

https://play.google.com/store/....rpolalert&gl=US

Note sure if there's an equivalent for iPhone, sorry.
HuMu Ninn
Kenku Wizard, 30 posts
Tue 5 Apr 2022
at 13:43
  • msg #107

The Pub Crawl:  OOC

In reply to Dungeon Master (msg # 106):

I thought they stopped updating it. Cool.
Dungeon Master
GM, 102 posts
Tue 5 Apr 2022
at 14:06
  • msg #108

The Pub Crawl:  OOC

Still works for me.  :)
Felix Takmarin
Human Bard, 16 posts
Tue 5 Apr 2022
at 14:21
  • msg #109

The Pub Crawl:  OOC

Signed up.  Thanks for the link!
Hannah Demsersk
Human Paladin, 24 posts
Tue 5 Apr 2022
at 14:22
  • msg #110

The Pub Crawl:  OOC

combat is fine
i dont really mind about a discord. if one is made ill join but if not thats fine
Kursak
Half-Goliath Cleric, 34 posts
AC 18 HP 9/9 THP 6
Frightened
Tue 5 Apr 2022
at 14:51
  • msg #111

The Pub Crawl:  OOC

They haven't updated the android app in a while, but it works fine and doesn't really need an update. It can get annoying if you follow the non-gaming threads, but you can adjust how often you get notifications and you can turn them off for some of those extra threads too, I think. I haven't installed it on my new phone, but I'm still in the discord group for it too.

Combat was fine. The perks of posting in initiative order absolutely do not outweigh the time you lose by doing the same. Especially not in a group as large as this. We can post with contingencies if there are resources on the line (spell slots, consumables, etc). If the group of goblins to the north are still clustered and there are at least 3 still there, cast fireball. If not, but the two orcs over here are still standing together, cast burning hands. If neither of those is true, cast firebolt at the nearest enemy that I have line of sight on.

Discord is great for bringing groups closer together, hashing out plans more quickly and easily, and being able to ping someone if you're waiting on them specifically. You don't need to make it a requirement, that will turn people away, but having one there for the people who do want it is good for the game's health in the long run. It can also lead you to finding other games to join and play in together.
Dungeon Master
GM, 103 posts
Tue 5 Apr 2022
at 15:24
  • msg #112

The Pub Crawl:  OOC

quote:
We can post with contingencies if there are resources on the line (spell slots, consumables, etc). If the group of goblins to the north are still clustered and there are at least 3 still there, cast fireball. If not, but the two orcs over here are still standing together, cast burning hands. If neither of those is true, cast firebolt at the nearest enemy that I have line of sight on.


Yeah, but I want to keep a limit on this, so let's structure it moving forward.  Shera's been doing a good job with it in this fight, so let's stick to that example:

If you need to do an "if, then, else" set of actions, I want two things:
  1. list the actions in order of preference -- I'll use the first one as your action if it's appropriate, and
  2. limit it to no more than two actions

This message was last edited by the GM at 15:28, Tue 05 Apr 2022.
Shera Draxalia
Human Warlock, 24 posts
Tue 5 Apr 2022
at 21:34
  • msg #113

The Pub Crawl:  OOC

Combat went good once everything was worked out so I'm good with keeping things the the same as how they went in this fight.

As for discord, I have one, but would rather not have something else I need to check in addition rpol for just rpol related stuff.
HuMu Ninn
Kenku Wizard, 31 posts
Tue 5 Apr 2022
at 22:06
  • msg #114

The Pub Crawl:  OOC

Combat was fair.

I'm always good for discord.
Dungeon Master
GM, 104 posts
Tue 5 Apr 2022
at 23:30
  • msg #115

The Pub Crawl:  OOC

Shera, roll Survival if you want to try to harvest creature parts.

Rain has asked a similar question.  Note that at some point in the future I'll be introducing feats to cover this type of activity, and IMO this is different to Alchemy, which is the process of using those parts and distilling into potions, salves, etc..
Shera Draxalia
Human Warlock, 25 posts
Wed 6 Apr 2022
at 00:52
  • msg #116

The Pub Crawl:  OOC

Gotcha will edit in game post with roll. My skill for survival isn't that great. Since Rain is doing the same thing can I aid her or are we doing two separate rolls?
This message was last edited by the player at 00:55, Wed 06 Apr 2022.
Dungeon Master
GM, 105 posts
Wed 6 Apr 2022
at 01:32
  • msg #117

Re: The Pub Crawl:  OOC

I'll say that you can help. Rain, make a second roll and take the higher result (advantage).
Shera Draxalia
Human Warlock, 26 posts
Wed 6 Apr 2022
at 05:45
  • msg #118

Re: The Pub Crawl:  OOC

Thanks.
Rain
Tabaxi Ranger, 34 posts
Wed 6 Apr 2022
at 09:43
  • msg #119

Re: The Pub Crawl:  OOC

<OOC:  Rain rolled 16 using 1d20+4 with rolls of 12.  Survival check.
 Rain rolled 11 using 1d20+4 with rolls of 7.  Survival check.>

Dungeon Master
GM, 107 posts
Wed 6 Apr 2022
at 12:51
  • msg #120

Re: The Pub Crawl:  OOC

I assuming right now that everybody except Rain is going inside the tent.  Is anyone else accompanying Rain outside, tracing the abomination's steps (or keeping the ranger company)?
Frilia Silverstring
Gnome Fighter, 43 posts
Wed 6 Apr 2022
at 13:00
  • msg #121

Re: The Pub Crawl:  OOC

Frilia is assisting Kursak with the wounded, but if that is secured, she would go... if someone tells her, she doesn't see / hear Rain at the moment... she only hears rain from outside... XD
Dungeon Master
GM, 108 posts
Wed 6 Apr 2022
at 13:03
  • msg #122

Re: The Pub Crawl:  OOC

Yep, then you're inside the tent.  There's only one walking wounded -- the hobgoblin who was attacked by the giant spider right at the end.  The rest who were attacked -- didn't make it or were healed on the battlefield (one drow elf).
Lee Minho
Human Rogue, 24 posts
AC 14| HP 10/10
PP 13| PI 10 PIns 11
Wed 6 Apr 2022
at 13:38
  • msg #123

Re: The Pub Crawl:  OOC

As a heads up, starting this evening I am on vacation. I will be traveling and should return home either late on the 10th or early on the 11th. I'm bringing my laptop on the trip, but don't expect any posts from me as I have no idea if I'll have time/energy for them. If we encounter more combat, those posts are easy to do on my phone on the go, so I'll be able to keep up with those but general RP might be harder.
Dungeon Master
GM, 109 posts
Wed 6 Apr 2022
at 13:40
  • msg #124

Re: The Pub Crawl:  OOC

No worries.  Thanks for letting us know.
Felix Takmarin
Human Bard, 18 posts
Wed 6 Apr 2022
at 14:51
  • msg #125

Re: The Pub Crawl:  OOC

I'll throw mine up here as well.  I'll be away on vacation from April 15th to April 21st.  I will not have my laptop, so will do my best to post via phone as I can.
Dungeon Master
GM, 110 posts
Wed 6 Apr 2022
at 23:27
  • msg #126

Re: The Pub Crawl:  OOC

Shera, where are you storing that vial of spider oil?
Rain, same question for the vial of spider venom?
Rain
Tabaxi Ranger, 36 posts
Thu 7 Apr 2022
at 11:40
  • msg #127

Re: The Pub Crawl:  OOC

Empty pouch.
Shera Draxalia
Human Warlock, 29 posts
Thu 7 Apr 2022
at 17:23
  • msg #128

Re: The Pub Crawl:  OOC

I figured in my Component Pouch. Was I wrong?
Dungeon Master
GM, 114 posts
Thu 7 Apr 2022
at 23:18
  • msg #129

Re: The Pub Crawl:  OOC

Nope, just needed to know.
Dungeon Master
GM, 115 posts
Thu 7 Apr 2022
at 23:25
  • msg #130

Re: The Pub Crawl:  OOC

Hannah:
OOC do javlins follow the same rules as arrows in that you can only collect half of them? Whatever the case, I'm retrieving as many javelins as I can.


Yep.  You might have missed that in the main game posts.  I've already factored that into your character sheet.

Parlour Tricks, post #107:
OOC: That's all of them.  We now resume our regular roleplay.  I assume you'll want to check up on each other in character, so I'll give you guys a day or so to work that out.  We'll pick up naturally.  For Frilia, Hannah, Minho, and Rain, you can recover half (rounded down) of your expended ammo.  That works out to:
Frilia: 1 arrow
Hannah: 1 javelin
Minho: 1 arrow
Rain: 2 arrows

Dungeon Master
GM, 116 posts
Thu 7 Apr 2022
at 23:29
  • msg #131

Re: The Pub Crawl:  OOC

Okay, what's the plan (insert team name here)?  My guess is that you'll want to sleep for the night, but I hate guessing.
Felix Takmarin
Human Bard, 22 posts
Thu 7 Apr 2022
at 23:44
  • msg #132

The Pub Crawl:  OOC

Works for me.  Definitely should set up watches though.
HuMu Ninn
Kenku Wizard, 34 posts
Thu 7 Apr 2022
at 23:56
  • msg #133

Re: The Pub Crawl:  OOC

I formally submit the team name 'odd lot'

HuMu needs a nap.
Shera Draxalia
Human Warlock, 30 posts
Fri 8 Apr 2022
at 00:11
  • msg #134

Re: The Pub Crawl:  OOC

Sounds good to me.
Sir Klaven Bobcat Ellis
Human Bard, 44 posts
Grinner, Performer, Liar
Viva le Verve
Fri 8 Apr 2022
at 00:14
  • msg #135

Re: The Pub Crawl:  OOC

Odd Lot. I love it!
Rest works.
Frilia Silverstring
Gnome Fighter, 46 posts
Fri 8 Apr 2022
at 00:54
  • msg #136

The Pub Crawl:  OOC

rest for sure, remember that Rain, Minho, Felix and Frilia started the day seeing the caravan being massacred and running all day
Dungeon Master
GM, 117 posts
Fri 8 Apr 2022
at 02:03
  • msg #137

The Pub Crawl:  OOC

Okay, since it's been suggested IC -- let's set the watch order for tonight.  You need at least 6 hours of sleep for a long rest, and I assume you're taking watch in pairs.

Watch 1: Rain & Shera (assuming Shera agrees)
Watch 2: ??? & ???
Watch 3: ??? & ???
Watch 4: ??? & ???

This leaves one person out -- is one of the watches covered by three people?  Which one?
Or does someone get a full eight hours?  Who?

Do you want to establish a fixed watch order (assuming you're all together), or negotiate each time?  I personally prefer to roleplay it, but some people consider that part of roleplay boring and would rather hand-wave it.
Rain
Tabaxi Ranger, 39 posts
Fri 8 Apr 2022
at 02:07
  • msg #138

The Pub Crawl:  OOC

I think we wing it for each scenario - different players can interact and get to know each other.  I suggested us two for our history and further broaden it to give players some OOC insight
Kursak
Half-Goliath Cleric, 38 posts
AC 18 HP 9/9 THP 6
Frightened
Fri 8 Apr 2022
at 02:15
  • msg #139

The Pub Crawl:  OOC

I don't think anyone was wounded enough to warrant a full night, so we can have three on one of the watches.

Kursak would offer to share a watch with Felix since he has asked questions about divine magic, so Minho could join in if he wants to be with his brother. Or we could put three of the humans without darkvision together on the last watch with the morning's light.
Shera Draxalia
Human Warlock, 31 posts
Fri 8 Apr 2022
at 02:29
  • msg #140

The Pub Crawl:  OOC

Shera would be happy to join Rain on watch, but she is only human so no dark vision so I don't think she'd be of much help during the night time while it's dark. Either way though keeping it in character Shera would prefer to do watch with Rain, but will opt to do whatever works best for the party.
Frilia Silverstring
Gnome Fighter, 47 posts
Fri 8 Apr 2022
at 02:33
  • msg #141

The Pub Crawl:  OOC

And since Frilia already started a small conversation with Hannah, she could take a watch with her. Frilia has darkvision and can light a fire in one action if a fight breaks out, so Hannah can see.
Dungeon Master
GM, 118 posts
Fri 8 Apr 2022
at 02:52
  • msg #142

The Pub Crawl:  OOC

Shera:
How much longer is the dark vision spell good for? I know it's at least under an hour left.


I could tell you, but Shera doesn't have a clue.  It's probably better if you ask Kursak IC.  :)
Shera Draxalia
Human Warlock, 34 posts
Fri 8 Apr 2022
at 03:41
  • msg #143

The Pub Crawl:  OOC

In reply to Dungeon Master (msg # 142):

Gotcha.
Dungeon Master
GM, 120 posts
Fri 8 Apr 2022
at 06:32
  • msg #144

Re: The Pub Crawl:  OOC

Rain:
I think we wing it for each scenario


I don't have a problem with this approach -- in fact, I like it very much.

However, for this night, I do kind need the watch order established, so I know who's asleep when.
Hannah Demsersk
Human Paladin, 27 posts
Fri 8 Apr 2022
at 06:40
  • msg #145

Re: The Pub Crawl:  OOC

I'd be happy to take watch with frillia. How about we take the second shift
Sir Klaven Bobcat Ellis
Human Bard, 45 posts
Grinner, Performer, Liar
Viva le Verve
Fri 8 Apr 2022
at 08:07
  • msg #146

Re: The Pub Crawl:  OOC

Sir Bobcat snores, loudly. Factor that on and put hum anywhere in the order.
Kursak
Half-Goliath Cleric, 41 posts
AC 18 HP 9/9 THP 6
Frightened
Sat 9 Apr 2022
at 02:06
  • msg #147

Re: The Pub Crawl:  OOC

Kursak knows that loud snoring is a sign of suffering and certain death, so he might smother you in your sleep to ease that suffering...

Not really, but it gives me an idea for a new character with some paranoia issues.
Dungeon Master
GM, 121 posts
Sat 9 Apr 2022
at 02:27
  • msg #148

Re: The Pub Crawl:  OOC

Hey everyone, just an FYI. I will be offline most of tomorrow. Don't expect anything from me then.  I might be able to answer questions OOC, but that's about it.
Dungeon Master
GM, 122 posts
Sat 9 Apr 2022
at 03:45
  • msg #149

Re: The Pub Crawl:  OOC

Okay, so gleaning what I can from the chat.

Watch 1: Rain & Shera
Watch 2: Frilia & Hannah
Watch 3: Klaven & Humu
Watch 4: Kursak & Felix & Minho

I'm basing my next posts on this order.  Sing out soon if you watch to change anything.
Kursak
Half-Goliath Cleric, 43 posts
AC 18 HP 9/9 THP 6
Frightened
Sat 9 Apr 2022
at 03:51
  • msg #150

Re: The Pub Crawl:  OOC

Looks good to me.
Sir Klaven Bobcat Ellis
Human Bard, 47 posts
Grinner, Performer, Liar
Viva le Verve
Sat 9 Apr 2022
at 07:46
  • msg #151

Re: The Pub Crawl:  OOC

Looks good. Klaven loves the sound of his own voice, so hearing it from another will certainly keep him awake.
Dungeon Master
GM, 124 posts
Sat 9 Apr 2022
at 13:41
  • msg #152

Re: The Pub Crawl:  OOC

The next post will take place at the changing of the watch.  Frilia and Hannah can talk, etc., while Rain and Shera should go to bed!  :)

Klaven & Humu, feel free to mumble in your sleep, twitch, snore, or whatever you do while sleeping.

[Private to HuMu Ninn; Sir Klaven Bobcat Ellis: Just include any dream roleplay in private lines in the post, etc..]
Dungeon Master
GM, 126 posts
Mon 11 Apr 2022
at 03:58
  • msg #153

Re: The Pub Crawl:  OOC

Humu, since you've posted about Humu waking up, I'll resolve your experiment once the night posts are done.  You're good for now.
HuMu Ninn
Kenku Wizard, 37 posts
Mon 11 Apr 2022
at 04:28
  • msg #154

Re: The Pub Crawl:  OOC

Aye aye boss!
Dungeon Master
GM, 129 posts
Thu 14 Apr 2022
at 02:34
  • msg #155

Re: The Pub Crawl:  OOC

Just keeping track:

Dream sequence complete:
  • Klaven has woken from his dream to take watch.
  • Humu's dream is finished.
  • Felix has woken from his dream and gone back into a dreamless sleep.
  • Minho has woken from his dream and gone back into a dreamless sleep.


In progress:
  • Kursak


Just started:
  • Rain
  • Shera
  • Hannah
  • Frilia





Just so you're all aware, I posted the dreams in private lines, so you as the characters have the ability to choose whether to share them or not.  You may (or may not) learn something from them, and not everyone had the same type of dream.  Not everyone reacted the same way (which was interesting for me).  Some of these dreams were intended to go a little longer than they did, but the dreamer posted about waking up -- that's cool, too.  Just means your dream was cut short and maybe you didn't get a chance to get the clues I was trying to plant.  I just decided to roll with it and keep going, especially since I was trying to keep them short enough that we didn't stall out too much while one or two dream sequences ran on.

Either way, this is not a tactic I'll be doing often -- it's a tonne of work (my most recent post was only about 230ish words publicly, and about 9 times as long with all the private lines.
Dungeon Master
GM, 130 posts
Thu 14 Apr 2022
at 09:09
  • msg #156

Re: The Pub Crawl:  OOC

Aaaaaand update: just got episode 50 in campaign #1
HuMu Ninn
Kenku Wizard, 38 posts
Thu 14 Apr 2022
at 14:09
  • msg #157

Re: The Pub Crawl:  OOC

Sorry boss. He is a young scribe and far to trigger happy to not take action.
Dungeon Master
GM, 131 posts
Thu 14 Apr 2022
at 14:39
  • msg #158

Re: The Pub Crawl:  OOC

Okay, so I've had a number of comments on this topic, so that's a sign that I might need to communicate better.

So here you have it from the horse's mouth:  in my games, you-the-player will nearly always have agency for your character.  I draw a line between the distinctions of "player" and "character".  Your character might not always have the freedom to act (for example, in a dream), but you as the player nearly always do.  Even in dreams, you-the-player can decide what your character does.

This is a game in which you are an active participant -- a co-author of the story, not a movie in which you're a passive observer.  :)

There are exceptions, of course: most of them magical.  If you are paralysed, dominated, etc., there will be limitations on what you're able to make your character do, but even then I'm going to give you-the-player the most freedom to roleplay possible.

Let's pretend for a moment that Kursak has been affected by a charm spell and been forced to switch sides.  I'm not going to dictate his actions; I'm going tell him his motivations and let him roleplay it out.

You can see a bit of this style in Campaign 1, episode 34:

quote:
MATT: You see, as they're having this conversation, they talk a bit with Vax, speak with Cassandra, then they step forward and begin to open the two doors to the central chamber.

LIAM: Can I ask a clarification question? The mojo they have on me: do I think they're my best friends in the world, or is it more Kilgrave; I do whatever they say, but have my own opinion trapped away?

MATT: You have your own opinion, you just trust them implicitly. They have to be protected.

LIAM: All right. It's a little of both, it seems like.

MATT: Like any close friend who would ask something of you and say, “please come with me,” there is an essence that you're compelled–

LIAM: I trust them.

MATT: You trust them, yeah.


and later in the same episode:

quote:
LIAM: I don't know why my sister is firing at me, but I would like to use Uncanny Dodge or Evasion, whichever is applicable in this moment, so I don't get hurt.

LAURA: There's a whole lot of arrows flying at you, just letting you know.

MATT: I believe Uncanny Dodge, you just roll a saving throw, and if you make it, you take no damage.

...
...
...

LIAM: I call out and say, Vex'ahlia, what are you doing?


In all circumstances, I'm going to take the approach which allow you guys the greatest opportunity to roleplay, even if you're going counter to your character's normal code.

TL;DR: assume you can act, unless you've been told you can't.

My apologies, everyone, for not making this explicitly clear.
Felix Takmarin
Human Bard, 25 posts
Thu 14 Apr 2022
at 23:57
  • msg #159

Re: The Pub Crawl:  OOC

We'll let it go...THIS time.  Lol

Thanks for the clarification and no worries.
Frilia Silverstring
Gnome Fighter, 54 posts
Sun 17 Apr 2022
at 14:53
  • msg #160

Re: The Pub Crawl:  OOC

Happy chocolatey Easter!
HuMu Ninn
Kenku Wizard, 41 posts
Sun 17 Apr 2022
at 15:00
  • msg #161

Re: The Pub Crawl:  OOC

And a delightful vigil to you as well.
Shera Draxalia
Human Warlock, 40 posts
Sun 17 Apr 2022
at 17:18
  • msg #162

Re: The Pub Crawl:  OOC

Happy Easter everyone.
Hannah Demsersk
Human Paladin, 32 posts
Sun 17 Apr 2022
at 19:38
  • msg #163

Re: The Pub Crawl:  OOC

Happy Easter if you celebrate it!
Kursak
Half-Goliath Cleric, 48 posts
AC 18 HP 9/9 THP 0
Vigilant Blessing: Kursak
Mon 18 Apr 2022
at 06:52
  • msg #164

The Pub Crawl:  OOC

I missed part of the last post from the DM. I'll get an update out there after I get to work in the morning. About 7 hours or so from this post.
Dungeon Master
GM, 136 posts
Tue 19 Apr 2022
at 16:21
  • msg #165

The Pub Crawl:  OOC

Just a comment -- I'm loving the way you all are playing this out.  :)  Keep it up!
Dungeon Master
GM, 138 posts
Thu 21 Apr 2022
at 04:10
  • msg #166

The Pub Crawl:  OOC

So, I'm gathering that a critical mass has been reached on the next course of action, and that you're all interested in seeing what this tree thing is all about.

Does anyone have a different course of action they'd like to pursue?  Anything you want to do before you head out?  What's the plan?
Kursak
Half-Goliath Cleric, 53 posts
AC 18 HP 9/9 THP 0
Vigilant Blessing: Kursak
Thu 21 Apr 2022
at 04:17
  • msg #167

The Pub Crawl:  OOC

Plan? To the TREE!!!
Kursak
Half-Goliath Cleric, 54 posts
AC 18 HP 9/9 THP 0
Vigilant Blessing: Kursak
Fri 22 Apr 2022
at 05:50
  • msg #168

The Pub Crawl:  OOC

Marching formation probably change based on the situation. In open spaces, with 9 players, we can do a 3x3 square. When the forest gets thick, we can go single-file or in pairs, whatever is available in the situation.



ScoutRain
Front RowHannah Frilia
MiddleKlavenFelixMinho
Back RowHumuSheraKursak

Anyone could shift forward/back a row at any given time for natural changes in pace and obstacles and such, or just for people to chat more. Kursak can be a frontline fighter, but he does well from range and likes to stay mobile, so he'll move up now and then to chat with Frilia, but also hang back to be the rear guard in case something comes at us from behind. When Rain returns to report, they can fall into the open spot. If we squeeze into a double-wide, Shera/Kursak become row 4, Humu/Klaven become row 3.

For single fight, we can swap left-right or right-left for front, middle, and then back row.
This message was last edited by the player at 06:04, Fri 22 Apr 2022.
Rain
Tabaxi Ranger, 51 posts
Fri 22 Apr 2022
at 05:53
  • msg #169

The Pub Crawl:  OOC

i agree with that
Sir Klaven Bobcat Ellis
Human Bard, 55 posts
Grinner, Performer, Liar
Viva le Verve
Fri 22 Apr 2022
at 05:57
  • msg #170

The Pub Crawl:  OOC

Klaven would be much more comfortable betwenn Hanna and Humu. The player doesn't care but the character would naturally seek out those he knows.
Shera Draxalia
Human Warlock, 42 posts
Fri 22 Apr 2022
at 06:10
  • msg #171

The Pub Crawl:  OOC

This line up is fine for Shera.
Lee Minho
Human Rogue, 27 posts
AC 14| HP 10/10
PP 13| PI 10 PIns 11
Fri 22 Apr 2022
at 11:49
  • msg #172

Re: The Pub Crawl:  OOC

Minho is fine with the lineup as well.
Sir Klaven Bobcat Ellis
Human Bard, 56 posts
Grinner, Performer, Liar
Viva le Verve
Fri 22 Apr 2022
at 13:41
  • msg #173

The Pub Crawl:  OOC

In reply to Kursak (msg # 168):

Thank Ye for the edit, Sir! Looks good as is now.
Hannah Demsersk
Human Paladin, 35 posts
Fri 22 Apr 2022
at 15:34
  • msg #174

The Pub Crawl:  OOC

lineup is fine with me too
Hannah Demsersk
Human Paladin, 37 posts
Fri 22 Apr 2022
at 15:36
  • msg #175

The Pub Crawl:  OOC

btw did we get experience from the last encounter?
Dungeon Master
GM, 141 posts
Fri 22 Apr 2022
at 15:51
  • msg #176

The Pub Crawl:  OOC

We're on Milestone advancement.  Basically, I have planned points at which I'll say, "Congrats!  You're leveled up!"  Then we'll take a short break, work through everyone's advancement, make sure the character sheets are up to date, and then resume the story.
Kursak
Half-Goliath Cleric, 55 posts
AC 18 HP 9/9 THP 0
Vigilant Blessing: Kursak
Fri 22 Apr 2022
at 16:16
  • msg #177

Re: The Pub Crawl:  OOC

Perception 11:16, Today: Kursak rolled 15 using 1d20+4.  Wis check. – [roll=1650644163.31133.365861]
Sir Klaven Bobcat Ellis
Human Bard, 59 posts
Grinner, Performer, Liar
Viva le Verve
Fri 22 Apr 2022
at 16:37
  • msg #178

Re: The Pub Crawl:  OOC

Dungeon Master:
"Congrats!  You're leveled up!"  Then we'll take a short break, work through everyone's advancement, make sure the character sheets are up to date, and then resume the story.


Wow! Cool Ill get to work right now on L2
Kursak
Half-Goliath Cleric, 56 posts
AC 18 HP 9/9 THP 0
Vigilant Blessing: Kursak
Fri 22 Apr 2022
at 16:49
  • msg #179

Re: The Pub Crawl:  OOC

He will tell you when. He has not yet.
Dungeon Master
GM, 142 posts
Fri 22 Apr 2022
at 17:06
  • msg #180

Re: The Pub Crawl:  OOC

I think Klaven understood me.  He's just being facetious, yes?

To be perfectly clear, character advancement will always happen during a long rest.
This message was last edited by the GM at 17:07, Fri 22 Apr 2022.
Hannah Demsersk
Human Paladin, 38 posts
Fri 22 Apr 2022
at 18:56
  • msg #181

Re: The Pub Crawl:  OOC

cool cool. just wondering
Sir Klaven Bobcat Ellis
Human Bard, 60 posts
Grinner, Performer, Liar
Viva le Verve
Fri 22 Apr 2022
at 20:02
  • msg #182

Re: The Pub Crawl:  OOC

I was just being fac..fac...funny.
Kursak
Half-Goliath Cleric, 57 posts
AC 18 HP 9/9 THP 0
Vigilant Blessing: Kursak
Fri 22 Apr 2022
at 20:07
  • msg #183

Re: The Pub Crawl:  OOC

I was just being literal.
Sir Klaven Bobcat Ellis
Human Bard, 61 posts
Grinner, Performer, Liar
Viva le Verve
Fri 22 Apr 2022
at 20:15
  • msg #184

Re: The Pub Crawl:  OOC

In reply to Kursak (msg # 183):

You are going to make a wonderful straight man, ain't ya?
HuMu Ninn
Kenku Wizard, 42 posts
Sat 23 Apr 2022
at 03:10
  • msg #185

Re: The Pub Crawl:  OOC

First day off in two weeks. weeeee

Side note, did Kursak find the giant raven feather HuMu left within line of sight during his slumber?
Kursak
Half-Goliath Cleric, 58 posts
AC 18 HP 9/9 THP 0
Vigilant Blessing: Kursak
Sat 23 Apr 2022
at 03:27
  • msg #186

Re: The Pub Crawl:  OOC

I would say he probably did, but that was posted 2 weeks ago, so I forgot all about it. I'll have to give some thought to how he would react to it. Considering he was visited by a raven in his sleep, he would probably tuck it away as further confirmation. If it's clearly not an actual raven's feather, because of the size, that would change things.
This message was last edited by the player at 01:49, Sun 24 Apr 2022.
Sir Klaven Bobcat Ellis
Human Bard, 62 posts
Grinner, Performer, Liar
Viva le Verve
Sun 24 Apr 2022
at 01:44
  • msg #187

Re: The Pub Crawl:  OOC

Humu beat me to it, I was going to say Klaven must be baking cookies.
Dungeon Master
GM, 146 posts
Wed 27 Apr 2022
at 03:41
  • msg #188

Re: The Pub Crawl:  OOC

Okay, this one's on me.  I've misunderstood the death saves rule.  I'll be updating the combat post accordingly.

However, in my reading, I've seen many complaints from DMs about the "whack-a-mole" nature of falling to 0 hp (get hit, fall to 0 hp, get healed, fight, get hit, fall to 0 hp, get healed, fight, get hit, fall to 0 hp...), and a few house rules to help make it slightly more risky/dangerous.

Here's my proposal, for discussion:

quote:
Falling to 0 hp is traumatic.  The first time you fall to 0hp in combat, you take 1 persistent death fail.  Meaning the second time you fall in combat, you start with one failed death save.  This accumulates per "mini-death" -- the third time you fall, you start with two failed deaths saves.  The fourth time, you're dead, and you can only be resurrected via magic.

Persistent Death Fails clear at a rate of 1 per long rest.


Thoughts?
Sir Klaven Bobcat Ellis
Human Bard, 65 posts
Grinner, Performer, Liar
Viva le Verve
Wed 27 Apr 2022
at 05:57
  • msg #189

Re: The Pub Crawl:  OOC

Perhaps something more dramatic than just "sleeping it off."

Perhaps 16 hours of uninterrupted sleep?

Or treat it like exhaustion?
Kursak
Half-Goliath Cleric, 62 posts
AC 18 HP 9/9 THP 0
Vigilant Blessing:
Wed 27 Apr 2022
at 06:12
  • msg #190

The Pub Crawl:  OOC

Certainly not exhaustion, that shit sucks.

I like the proposed change. I've considered it several times myself, and just haven't pulled the trigger on it yet. I'm fine sticking with the base rules too, but if there is a change I think this one is pretty good. People will need to adopt some new habits after going unconscious, so they don't just keep dropping like flies, and I may be more likely to sustain someone than bringing them back up right away (situationally).
Dungeon Master
GM, 147 posts
Wed 27 Apr 2022
at 06:19
  • msg #191

Re: The Pub Crawl:  OOC

Exhaustion's a bit more severe than I want to play with here (disadvantage on all ability checks, which is the primary mechanic of the game) -- and even that clears up at a rate of 1 level per long rest.

Remember, it's not a sleep it off, unless you only went down twice.

I just want people to go "Holy shit that nearly killed me!" not "Rraaagh!" and charge back in like a barbarian (unless they *are* barbarians) -- might have to adjust that class if anyone decides to take it.

There's also the prospect of using the Lingering Injury rules in the DMG.  I won't spoil it for people who have the DMG, but the short version is this:

quote:
It’s up to you to decide when to check for a lingering injury. A creature might sustain a lingering injury under the following circumstances:

  • When it takes a critical hit
  • When it drops to 0 hit points but isn’t killed outright
  • When it fails a death saving throw by 5 or more

To determine the nature of the injury, roll on the Lingering Injuries table. This table assumes a typical humanoid physiology, but you can adapt the results for creatures with different body types.


I'm not proposing we use both rules; I think that's a little too much.  Either one of these should be enough to make you reconsider your life choices if you get your butt spanked.  :)
Sir Klaven Bobcat Ellis
Human Bard, 66 posts
Grinner, Performer, Liar
Viva le Verve
Wed 27 Apr 2022
at 06:21
  • msg #192

The Pub Crawl:  OOC

In reply to Kursak (msg # 190):

Same.BTW/ Kursac you have advantage on your stike from the round. Make that second roll count my friend.
Dungeon Master
GM, 148 posts
Wed 27 Apr 2022
at 06:25
  • msg #193

The Pub Crawl:  OOC

Kursak already had advantage on the attack (provide by help from the raven).  Choose another.
This message was last edited by the GM at 06:28, Wed 27 Apr 2022.
Sir Klaven Bobcat Ellis
Human Bard, 67 posts
Grinner, Performer, Liar
Viva le Verve
Wed 27 Apr 2022
at 06:44
  • msg #194

The Pub Crawl:  OOC

Hannah. Fingers crossed.
Dungeon Master
GM, 149 posts
Wed 27 Apr 2022
at 07:01
  • msg #195

The Pub Crawl:  OOC

16:58, Today: Secret Roll: Dungeon Master, on behalf of Hannah Demsersk, rolled 11 using 1d20+6 with rolls of 5.  Attack with Advantage.

Valiant effort, but the dice said no.  Rolled a 5, and her original attack roll was a 6.
Dungeon Master
GM, 150 posts
Wed 27 Apr 2022
at 08:15
  • msg #196

The Pub Crawl:  OOC

The more I think about it, the more I'm leaning towards the lingering injuries option outlined in the DMG.  What are y'all's (showing my Southern USA heritage there) thoughts on the matter?
Felix Takmarin
Human Bard, 32 posts
Wed 27 Apr 2022
at 09:22
  • msg #197

Re: The Pub Crawl:  OOC

I think the lingering injuries option is a good one as well, as from a story/role playing perspective it would fit better, but I also haven't looked at the injury table, so I don't want to put my foot in my mouth if it's on the extreme side.
Frilia Silverstring
Gnome Fighter, 60 posts
Wed 27 Apr 2022
at 10:45
  • msg #198

The Pub Crawl:  OOC

Why does it have to be on my happy little gnome? Frankly, I don't care for either options, RAW is ok by me. This is a game that is not supposed to replicate real life and I hate all those official or houserules  "options", that all suck btw, designed to make it more realistic.

That is my point of view in all games, it's not on you or this game, GM.
Sir Klaven Bobcat Ellis
Human Bard, 69 posts
Grinner, Performer, Liar
Viva le Verve
Wed 27 Apr 2022
at 11:04
  • msg #199

The Pub Crawl:  OOC

In reply to Dungeon Master (msg # 196):

Um from South Carolina. We say all y'all, lol.

I like lingering injury better as well.
Frilia Silverstring
Gnome Fighter, 61 posts
Wed 27 Apr 2022
at 11:16
  • msg #200

The Pub Crawl:  OOC

Klaven, how can you bonus action attack with a dagger at level 1?
Frilia Silverstring
Gnome Fighter, 62 posts
Wed 27 Apr 2022
at 11:33
  • msg #201

The Pub Crawl:  OOC

I just looked at the lingering injury table.... *throws up*

Will you provide a permanent access to a free level 11+  cleric to cast regenerate or heal on us each time we drop? Or do we need to have a pile of char sheet ready? We'll need a pile of dead bards to cover under if those rules applies :p

Sorry for the rant, still affected by my cold, but like I said, all those "realistic rules" suck hard
Sir Klaven Bobcat Ellis
Human Bard, 70 posts
Grinner, Performer, Liar
Viva le Verve
Wed 27 Apr 2022
at 11:40
  • msg #202

The Pub Crawl:  OOC

In reply to Frilia Silverstring (msg # 200):

Paired weapons
Frilia Silverstring
Gnome Fighter, 63 posts
Wed 27 Apr 2022
at 11:52
  • msg #203

Re: The Pub Crawl:  OOC

In reply to Sir Klaven Bobcat Ellis (msg # 202):

Ok makes sense, I'm not at 100%, sorry
Sir Klaven Bobcat Ellis
Human Bard, 71 posts
Grinner, Performer, Liar
Viva le Verve
Wed 27 Apr 2022
at 12:04
  • msg #204

Re: The Pub Crawl:  OOC

In reply to Frilia Silverstring (msg # 203):

I figured. ;-)
Dungeon Master
GM, 151 posts
Wed 27 Apr 2022
at 12:48
  • msg #205

Re: The Pub Crawl:  OOC

Frilia Silverstring:
I just looked at the lingering injury table.... *throws up*

Will you provide a permanent access to a free level 11+  cleric to cast regenerate or heal on us each time we drop? Or do we need to have a pile of char sheet ready? We'll need a pile of dead bards to cover under if those rules applies :p

Sorry for the rant, still affected by my cold, but like I said, all those "realistic rules" suck hard



Nope.  But I'll encourage you to be brave.  And I'll point out the existence of magical prosthetic limbs... https://www.dndbeyond.com/magi...0601-prosthetic-limb.

And stories of magical prosthetics go way back to the early 1980s or more.  Remember that the mighty DragonLance was forged by a one-armed blacksmith.
Dungeon Master
GM, 152 posts
Wed 27 Apr 2022
at 12:59
  • msg #206

Re: The Pub Crawl:  OOC

Sir Klaven Bobcat Ellis:
In reply to Frilia Silverstring (msg # 200):

Paired weapons


Nope.

Player's Handbook:
When you take the Attack action and attack with a light melee weapon that you’re holding in one hand, you can use a bonus action to attack with a different light melee weapon that you’re holding in the other hand. You don’t add your ability modifier to the damage of the bonus attack, unless that modifier is negative.


Rapier doesn't have the light property, so this combination doesn't work.
You're basically limited to:
  • Club
  • Dagger
  • Handaxe
  • Light Hammer
  • Sickle
  • Scimitar
  • Shortsword
  • Crossbow, Hand


So, which attack are you keeping?
Sir Klaven Bobcat Ellis
Human Bard, 72 posts
Grinner, Performer, Liar
Viva le Verve
Wed 27 Apr 2022
at 13:00
  • msg #207

Re: The Pub Crawl:  OOC

Urg...rapier
Frilia Silverstring
Gnome Fighter, 64 posts
Wed 27 Apr 2022
at 13:11
  • msg #208

Re: The Pub Crawl:  OOC

Dungeon Master:
Nope.  But I'll encourage you to be brave.  And I'll point out the existence of magical prosthetic limbs... https://www.dndbeyond.com/magi...0601-prosthetic-limb.

And stories of magical prosthetics go way back to the early 1980s or more.  Remember that the mighty DragonLance was forged by a one-armed blacksmith.


I don't know the dragonlance setting, I only read the first 3 novels by Hickman and Weiss, and they didn't stick to me, not like their awesome Death Gate 7 books series... that one is a masterpiece.

I guess I better prepare a replacement for Frilia then...
Felix Takmarin
Human Bard, 34 posts
Wed 27 Apr 2022
at 13:25
  • msg #209

Re: The Pub Crawl:  OOC

Baloo, save the drama for your mama.  You're going to be fine.  You're getting healed as we speak, I'm distracting the spider, and he has disadvantage on his next attack.  I'm the resident PITA here, don't think all this whining BS crap you're doing is going to move you any closer to the top my friend.  LOL
Sir Klaven Bobcat Ellis
Human Bard, 73 posts
Grinner, Performer, Liar
Viva le Verve
Wed 27 Apr 2022
at 13:33
  • msg #210

Re: The Pub Crawl:  OOC

PITA?
Dungeon Master
GM, 153 posts
Wed 27 Apr 2022
at 13:34
  • msg #211

Re: The Pub Crawl:  OOC

Pain in the ..
Frilia Silverstring
Gnome Fighter, 65 posts
Wed 27 Apr 2022
at 13:35
  • msg #212

Re: The Pub Crawl:  OOC

Sir Klaven Bobcat Ellis:
PITA?


Pain In The Ass, Felix' specialty in the real life ;)

And he called me Baloo as that's my handle on the mobile game we met on... come back already, Tak! ;)
This message was last edited by the player at 13:37, Wed 27 Apr 2022.
Hannah Demsersk
Human Paladin, 40 posts
Wed 27 Apr 2022
at 13:41
  • msg #213

Re: The Pub Crawl:  OOC

i like the idea of sustained injuries. let's lose some fingers!
Dungeon Master
GM, 154 posts
Thu 28 Apr 2022
at 01:03
  • msg #214

Re: The Pub Crawl:  OOC

So, upon reflection, I don't think the persistent death saves option is the right way to go.  Instead, we will be using Modified version of Lingering Injuries.

I'm going to keep the exact effects behind the DM's Screen for now, but suffice to say that it's harder to get longer-lasting detrimental effects.

However, you should know the rules which trigger these Lingering Injuries.
  1. When reduced to zero hit points and not killed out right you need to make a Death Saving Throw (DC 10) at the beginning of each of your turns.  This is the standard rules-as-written on DnD 5e.
  2. If
    • you are stabilised by another player,
    • succeed in all saving throws,
    • are lucky enough to roll a natural 20, or
    • are healed before your turn

    You do not suffer any lingering injuries.

  3. The number of any FAILED Death Saving throws you make before being stabilised or revived indicates triggers a Lingering Injury.  One failed death save will typically trigger a minor injury, while two failed death saves will trigger the major version of the same injury.  Three failed death saves results in death, always.


Thoughts / comments / discussion is welcome.
Frilia Silverstring
Gnome Fighter, 66 posts
Thu 28 Apr 2022
at 01:11
  • msg #215

The Pub Crawl:  OOC

It is your game, your rules.

I'll shut my mouth now on this subject.

I think we have a nice group that can go the distance here, so lets focus on the positive ;)
Felix Takmarin
Human Bard, 35 posts
Thu 28 Apr 2022
at 01:18
  • msg #216

Re: The Pub Crawl:  OOC

Works for me bossman.
Rain
Tabaxi Ranger, 55 posts
Thu 28 Apr 2022
at 01:25
  • msg #217

Re: The Pub Crawl:  OOC

I'm OK with that rule
Kursak
Half-Goliath Cleric, 63 posts
AC 18 HP 9/9 THP 0
Vigilant Blessing:
Thu 28 Apr 2022
at 01:27
  • msg #218

The Pub Crawl:  OOC

Sounds good to me
Sir Klaven Bobcat Ellis
Human Bard, 74 posts
Grinner, Performer, Liar
Viva le Verve
Thu 28 Apr 2022
at 01:43
  • msg #219

The Pub Crawl:  OOC

"Yup I'm good with it." - Capt. Jack Sparrow.
Dungeon Master
GM, 159 posts
Fri 29 Apr 2022
at 00:28
  • msg #220

The Pub Crawl:  OOC

Just so I know... how would you like to handle loot?  You all have your personal funds and inventory on your character sheets, but how would you like to handle the rest?

I've seen some games have a "loot" thread, whereby items are claimed, etc.

Some games have a "treasurer" (like Vex'alia) or a "quartermaster" (like Grog who holds the bag of holding).

At some point in time you all may want to formalise your agreements in character (and I'll leave you to do that), but for now, what's the plan?
Sir Klaven Bobcat Ellis
Human Bard, 76 posts
Grinner, Performer, Liar
Viva le Verve
Fri 29 Apr 2022
at 01:41
  • msg #221

The Pub Crawl:  OOC

"Everyone gets an equal share." Capt. Jack Sparrow.
Dungeon Master
GM, 162 posts
Fri 29 Apr 2022
at 01:46
  • msg #222

The Pub Crawl:  OOC

Good in principle.  I leave it to you to divide 21 electrum pieces amongst 9 people.  :)
Dungeon Master
GM, 163 posts
Fri 29 Apr 2022
at 02:01
  • msg #223

The Pub Crawl:  OOC

Who's looking at the book?
Sir Klaven Bobcat Ellis
Human Bard, 83 posts
Grinner, Performer, Liar
Viva le Verve
Tue 3 May 2022
at 01:33
  • msg #224

The Pub Crawl:  OOC

Is this an initiative situation?
This message was last edited by the player at 01:34, Tue 03 May 2022.
Dungeon Master
GM, 168 posts
Tue 3 May 2022
at 01:42
  • msg #225

The Pub Crawl:  OOC

Not.... yet.  Depends on what you all do.
Dungeon Master
GM, 169 posts
Tue 3 May 2022
at 05:33
  • msg #226

The Pub Crawl:  OOC

To be a little more clear on my post... the path behind you is more infested than the path in front of you.  You're not being herded -- there's no feeling like that (unless you decide that there is), but the spiders are definitely moving in a particular direction (from mostly behind you toward the front).
Sir Klaven Bobcat Ellis
Human Bard, 86 posts
Grinner, Performer, Liar
Viva le Verve
Wed 4 May 2022
at 04:53
  • msg #227

The Pub Crawl:  OOC

YES! Ghostbusters reference everybody. You are all welcome. =-D
Dungeon Master
GM, 170 posts
Wed 4 May 2022
at 05:08
  • msg #228

The Pub Crawl:  OOC

I'll admit I don't remember that line of the movie, but it's been a long time.  What's the reference?
Sir Klaven Bobcat Ellis
Human Bard, 87 posts
Grinner, Performer, Liar
Viva le Verve
Wed 4 May 2022
at 07:24
  • msg #229

The Pub Crawl:  OOC

Sir Klaven Bobcat Ellis
Human Bard, 89 posts
Grinner, Performer, Liar
Viva le Verve
Thu 5 May 2022
at 08:56
  • msg #230

The Pub Crawl:  OOC

Hate to bother, but Klaven wasn't mentioned in GM post.
Dungeon Master
GM, 173 posts
Thu 5 May 2022
at 09:20
  • msg #231

Re: The Pub Crawl:  OOC

Nope. Neither was Kursak, Hannah, etc..

Those who passed their rolls and don't have anything special about their speed, like a horse it the Mobile feat... They got included with "the others".
Sir Klaven Bobcat Ellis
Human Bard, 90 posts
Grinner, Performer, Liar
Viva le Verve
Thu 5 May 2022
at 09:29
  • msg #232

Re: The Pub Crawl:  OOC

Thanks just making sure.
Dungeon Master
GM, 174 posts
Thu 5 May 2022
at 10:42
  • msg #233

Re: The Pub Crawl:  OOC

No worries.
Dungeon Master
GM, 176 posts
Sat 7 May 2022
at 14:19
  • msg #234

Re: The Pub Crawl:  OOC

G'day everyone.  So another game I'm playing in uses this solution for their Virtual Table Top (VTT).

I've just tried it out on an in-person game last week, as it worked pretty well.

You'll need to install browser extensions to get it to work,, and you'd need to install it in multiple locations if you frequently change computers.  It also does not have a mobile app, so it would not work there.

BUT:

For Chrome (and chrome variants like Vivaldi, Brave, etc.), download this extension:
https://chrome.google.com/webs...ihcloggaichibomadlei

Firefox: https://addons.mozilla.org/en-...efox/addon/abovevtt/

Then log in to the Campaigns page on D&D Beyond and click the "Join AboveVTT" button against your character.

There are issues with this method -- there's no way to customise what each player can see (like I did with the darkvision in the logging camp), so I might not use it for every combat, but there are some definite benefits.

Here's how we're going to manage this one:
  1. Don't move your character yourself.  Because we're not posting in initiative order, I can't have you moving out of order either.  You can however, use the ruler to measure distances (which I found useful).
  2. We're still using the rpol dice roller for now.  Later, I may move us to the dndbeyond dice roller in the campaign log, but right now, it's easier to manage the dice log here.  We have a lot of players/actors at different times, and this one is easier for me to keep track of.
  3. I will move your characters, draw effects on screen, etc., and I'll let you know with each combat round when the map has been updated.  It should remain static between combat posts.


Go ahead, check it out.  Please let me know what you think, or especially if you have difficulties with it.  We can always shift back to the previous method.
Sir Klaven Bobcat Ellis
Human Bard, 94 posts
Grinner, Performer, Liar
Viva le Verve
Sat 7 May 2022
at 14:28
  • msg #235

Re: The Pub Crawl:  OOC

Sorry no can do boss. =-(
Dungeon Master
GM, 177 posts
Sat 7 May 2022
at 14:30
  • msg #236

Re: The Pub Crawl:  OOC

Okay, no problem.  We can shift back to the previous method -- or even a hybrid method, since I can take screenshots, etc.  We'll work it out.
Frilia Silverstring
Gnome Fighter, 74 posts
Sat 7 May 2022
at 17:19
  • msg #237

Re: The Pub Crawl:  OOC

I can check it out but half of th he time I'm on my phone, sorry!
Dungeon Master
GM, 179 posts
Mon 9 May 2022
at 12:48
  • msg #238

Re: The Pub Crawl:  OOC

Hey everyone!

As you've all figured out, I'm a big fan of the Language feature here on rpol.  (Secret lines, too, but Shhhhh!)  But I've noticed a few people use them incorrectly.  Normally, I don't mind when people make mistakes, but here, it can have an effect on what people see and therefor react to.  So here's a quick primer:




Private Lines are just that: private.  They cannot be seen by anyone who is not in the group.  It's clearly marked as a private line, and you'll see it as such: [private to some user: this is private.]  No one else will have a clue that content even exists.




Secret Lines are like private lines, with one key difference.  The person who can see the line has no clue that it's hidden from everyone else's view.  It's useful for those little perception roles:  The party walked into the tavern.  [Secret to Buffy: A black cat sat on the rafters overhead, licking its paws.]

Only Buffy saw the cat.  It's up to her to tell the rest of the scooby gang about it.  She might assume that the rest saw it, and then be really surprised when noone reacts to it.




And then we have Language groups.  You'll all see the "insert a private line" drop-down menu on below the textarea when you're composing a reply.  If you want to use a different language use this drop-down, select "The language group..." and then tick the appropriate box.

That gets you this: [Language unknown: i ntiwheher forar ee haee Ospltrllnd poplntom werresect.  Hi Norino th neeiadmilo Thieves' Cant, as ven ouwh wer she.  Ametioles ngai nctrer (ololss maen int), un saine fi esshoular yince.  Thudinenture ustha m latardvirhou henipo paeve, wh eete ac ee era nteau eintas whpoer ilhi "reaiun ncis ar".]

[Language ThievesCant: a private line to the ThievesCant language group.  To Those who understand {Thieves'} {Cant}, they can see this line.  Those who can't (pardon the pun), see only a garbled mess.  Everyone sees a different garbled mess, so it's not like they can compare notes and "break the code".]

You'll note in there that the terms "Thieves' Cant" was surrounded by curly brackets -- that indicates it's a known word.  You can do that to drop a hint (or clue-by-four) in the spoken language.  I did this earlier in Chapter 1 when the hobgoblins were speaking Goblin.  Only Rain speaks goblin in the group, but I wanted to make sure the rest of you could see that Khaturr was being spoken about, so I enclosed it in curly brackets.  The language function ignores curly brackets when obfuscating the language being used.  It also tends to ignore common words like "the" but I don't have an exhaustive list of common words.  Also, I just learned: it has to be done on a word-by-word basis.  No known phrases, only known words.




That it for this edition of "Secrets of RPOL".  Thanks for coming to my TedTALK.
Hannah Demsersk
Human Paladin, 47 posts
Mon 9 May 2022
at 13:52
  • msg #239

Re: The Pub Crawl:  OOC

soooo someone's gonna have to help me out. How does inspiration work? I have never once had a bard in my party
Sir Klaven Bobcat Ellis
Human Bard, 96 posts
Grinner, Performer, Liar
Viva le Verve
Mon 9 May 2022
at 13:59
  • msg #240

Re: The Pub Crawl:  OOC

You get a d6. You can add it to any attack roll, ability check, or saving throw. You have it for ten minutes or until you use it.
Dungeon Master
GM, 180 posts
Mon 9 May 2022
at 14:03
  • msg #241

Re: The Pub Crawl:  OOC

Short version -- there's two types.

DM inspiration is awarded by the DM only.  Once you have it, you can spend it to get Advantage on any roll.  It is tradeable, meaning you can give it to another player if you so wish.  Once it's spent, it's gone.

Bardic Inspiration is a little different.

player's handbook:
As a bonus action, a creature (other than the bard) within 60 ft. that can hear the bard gains an inspiration die (1d6 -- this scales with level).  For 10 minutes, the creature can add it to one ability check, attack roll, or saving throw. This can be added after seeing the roll, but before knowing the outcome.


In an online game like this one, just tell me when you want to use it.  If you want to pre-plan by saying you'll use it for a saving throw, let me know and I'll use it to your best benefit.  If you roll low on an attack roll or ability check, you can choose to use it then, etc..
Dungeon Master
GM, 181 posts
Tue 10 May 2022
at 13:57
  • msg #242

Re: The Pub Crawl:  OOC

Hannah:
Adding (bardic) inspiration roll to damage roll for a total of 10 damage


Yeah, not quite.  You can add it to the attack roll (to increase your chance of a successful hit), but not the damage roll.
Sir Klaven Bobcat Ellis
Human Bard, 97 posts
Grinner, Performer, Liar
Viva le Verve
Tue 10 May 2022
at 14:36
  • msg #243

Re: The Pub Crawl:  OOC

With your roll you don't need it this round. I'd hang on to it, for another strike or maybe saving throw. Incidentally Initiative rolls are ability checks, so you can add it there if you want, raising your place in the initiative order is always nice.
Dungeon Master
GM, 183 posts
Wed 11 May 2022
at 03:07
  • msg #244

Re: The Pub Crawl:  OOC

Two of you owe Felix dinner.  :)  His Bane spell saved your hides.
Dungeon Master
GM, 184 posts
Wed 11 May 2022
at 06:57
  • msg #245

Re: The Pub Crawl:  OOC

Klaven:
Klaven drew his rapier and sprinted back in to stand with Frilla and Hannah.


You might not have seen the map (which I've just updated, since I forgot to move Klaven's token from last round), but Hannah and Frilia are in different parts of the map.

Hannah and Shera are standing together, fighting one of the spiderbody abominations.
Frilia is off to the right side, near Minho and Felix.

You can't quite get to Hannah's position.  It's 35ft away, and your movement is 30ft.  You could get to Frilia's position by moving down 6 squares and to the right 3 squares.  is that where you want to go?
Sir Klaven Bobcat Ellis
Human Bard, 99 posts
Grinner, Performer, Liar
Viva le Verve
Wed 11 May 2022
at 08:38
  • msg #246

Re: The Pub Crawl:  OOC

Yes. That works.
Felix Takmarin
Human Bard, 49 posts
Wed 11 May 2022
at 10:43
  • msg #247

The Pub Crawl:  OOC

SO glad the Bane spell took effect.  BOO YAH!

Which two people specifically owe me dinner, so I can make sure they pony up?  LOL
This message was last edited by the player at 10:44, Wed 11 May 2022.
Sir Klaven Bobcat Ellis
Human Bard, 100 posts
Grinner, Performer, Liar
Viva le Verve
Wed 11 May 2022
at 11:42
  • msg #248

The Pub Crawl:  OOC

In reply to Felix Takmarin (msg # 247):

Yup Im adding that one as soon as we level.

Also Im down to one inspiration.
Sir Klaven Bobcat Ellis
Human Bard, 101 posts
Grinner, Performer, Liar
Viva le Verve
Wed 11 May 2022
at 12:15
  • msg #249

The Pub Crawl:  OOC

Frilla it was suppose to be like an "atta boy" kind of inspiration not him singing "Ive got sunshine on a cloudy day" kind of thing.

He is going to be totally humiliated she took it that way because secretly yea but he thinks he is being subtle. Im really going more for Charlie Brown than anything mean or bad natured.
Frilia Silverstring
Gnome Fighter, 78 posts
Wed 11 May 2022
at 12:35
  • msg #250

The Pub Crawl:  OOC

I know Klaven, its Yukiko that made the telepathic comment, Frilia is concentrating on the fight... one hit and she's down, she can't slip! ;)
Hannah Demsersk
Human Paladin, 49 posts
Wed 11 May 2022
at 17:19
  • msg #251

Re: The Pub Crawl:  OOC

In reply to Dungeon Master (msg # 242):

my bad lol. I'll save it for later
Dungeon Master
GM, 185 posts
Thu 12 May 2022
at 00:25
  • msg #252

Re: The Pub Crawl:  OOC

Frilia Silverstring:
I know Klaven, its Yukiko that made the telepathic comment, Frilia is concentrating on the fight... one hit and she's down, she can't slip! ;)


So here's how I handle telepathy in almost all my games, whether I'm a player or a DM:

"Speech is always enclosed in quotation marks; this is normal typographical convention."

::Telepathy I always include in italics, and enclosed with a double colon.  Blame Mercedes Lackey and the Heralds of Valdemar series of books.::

I find that the combination of italics and the double colon makes it easy to tell.  Either on on their own can be misinterpreted.
Rain
Tabaxi Ranger, 72 posts
Thu 12 May 2022
at 01:16
  • msg #253

Re: The Pub Crawl:  OOC

My normal for telepathy are as follows.

Normal speech - "Colored text in quotation marks"

Telepathy - ~Also in itallics...with the wavy line, usually in the color por a lighter color~
Felix Takmarin
Human Bard, 50 posts
Thu 12 May 2022
at 10:45
  • msg #254

The Pub Crawl:  OOC

Just a note Chad, I didn't see the inspiration I gave Minho in your conditions chart.  Just an FYI that he has it and it hasn't been used yet.
Felix Takmarin
Human Bard, 52 posts
Thu 12 May 2022
at 10:47
  • msg #255

The Pub Crawl:  OOC

Also, hopefully the inspiration I gave to Shera is enough for her to hit the abomination, since I come before her in the initiative order.
Frilia Silverstring
Gnome Fighter, 79 posts
Thu 12 May 2022
at 10:55
  • msg #256

Re: The Pub Crawl:  OOC

To me, italics means thoughts, and I never made a difference with telepathy, I'll use the double colon from now on.

So you see Klaven, Frilia as not thought badly of you, she even tries to turn the monster away from you! (and Minho, it's a tactical decision ;-) )
Sir Klaven Bobcat Ellis
Human Bard, 102 posts
Grinner, Performer, Liar
Viva le Verve
Thu 12 May 2022
at 11:19
  • msg #257

Re: The Pub Crawl:  OOC

In reply to Frilia Silverstring (msg # 256):

=-D Im actually looking forward to some non combat rp.
Dungeon Master
GM, 186 posts
Thu 12 May 2022
at 14:51
  • msg #258

Re: The Pub Crawl:  OOC

Felix Takmarin:
Just a note Chad, I didn't see the inspiration I gave Minho in your conditions chart.  Just an FYI that he has it and it hasn't been used yet.


You did (inspire him), I did (forget it), he hasn't (used it yet), and I will (fix it up in the next post).

Thanks for picking that up.  :)
This message was last edited by the GM at 14:53, Thu 12 May 2022.
Felix Takmarin
Human Bard, 53 posts
Thu 12 May 2022
at 14:54
  • msg #259

Re: The Pub Crawl:  OOC

I do (appreciate it) and it is (my pleasure).

Thanks!
Felix Takmarin
Human Bard, 54 posts
Thu 12 May 2022
at 14:55
  • msg #260

Re: The Pub Crawl:  OOC

In reply to Frilia Silverstring (msg # 256):

It's all good.  I got Minho's back!
Dungeon Master
GM, 187 posts
Thu 12 May 2022
at 15:22
  • msg #261

Re: The Pub Crawl:  OOC

G'day everyone.

Unfortunately Humu's player has been unresponsive for two weeks.  I'm not casting aspersions of any kind.  But I want to be as open and transparent, both about my expectations, and about how this type of thing is managed.  Not sure what's happened, but I suspect life has interfered.

Here's my current plan.  Humu the character will stick around at least until the end of the chapter, being NPC'ed (probably badly) by me.  This gives his player a chance to contact me and let me know what the situation is.  If I don't hear back by then, then the character will be removed as well*.

I'm undecided whether I'll open the game to other players.  There are still eight of you, which is quite a large number to manage.




* Assuming he doesn't die first.  I'm not really careful with NPCs.
Felix Takmarin
Human Bard, 55 posts
Thu 12 May 2022
at 15:57
  • msg #262

Re: The Pub Crawl:  OOC

Understandable Chad.

As far as opening up the game, I think 8 is a good number as well, unless you continue to throw thousands of creatures at us constantly, then I'm fine with an unlimited number of players.  :)
Dungeon Master
GM, 189 posts
Thu 12 May 2022
at 16:55
  • msg #263

Re: The Pub Crawl:  OOC

Dungeon Master:
* Assuming he doesn't die first.  I'm not really careful with NPCs.


Holy crap!  I swear I didn't fudge any numbers or preplan this in any way....
Sir Klaven Bobcat Ellis
Human Bard, 103 posts
Grinner, Performer, Liar
Viva le Verve
Thu 12 May 2022
at 17:02
  • msg #264

Re: The Pub Crawl:  OOC

In reply to Dungeon Master (msg # 263):

I thought Kursak used healer's kit on Humu after the great spider marathon.
Dungeon Master
GM, 190 posts
Thu 12 May 2022
at 17:08
  • msg #265

Re: The Pub Crawl:  OOC

Nope.  Msg #316

quote:
HuMu and Shera, if either of you took damage from that, you can click this to roll for me to heal you with a healer's kit.</orange>


That was on 06 May.  Humu hasn't posted since since 28 April, so he wouldn't have been able to click the link.  The implication then, is that Humu declined to be healed.
Dungeon Master
GM, 191 posts
Thu 12 May 2022
at 17:24
  • msg #266

Re: The Pub Crawl:  OOC

I will point out Klaven could affect the outcome here, but you'd have to do it right now (game time).  Silvery Barbs would force the Abomination to re-roll that attack roll (creating disadvantage), and potentially save the wizard.

Up to you what you want to do here.
Sir Klaven Bobcat Ellis
Human Bard, 105 posts
Grinner, Performer, Liar
Viva le Verve
Thu 12 May 2022
at 17:31
  • msg #267

Re: The Pub Crawl:  OOC

Dungeon Master:
I will point out Klaven could affect the outcome here, but you'd have to do it right now (game time).  Silvery Barbs would force the Abomination to re-roll that attack roll (creating disadvantage), and potentially save the wizard.

Up to you what you want to do here.

Great/insane minds think alike. I was posting in the other thread. Silvery Barbs for the save?
Dungeon Master
GM, 192 posts
Thu 12 May 2022
at 22:11
  • msg #268

Re: The Pub Crawl:  OOC

Whoops!  My bad.  Klaven can't cast Silvery Barbs -- his Attack of Opportunity consumed his reaction.

So here's where I need to ask a question, and the answer has some significance...

As per the Notice: Combat thread, msg #3...

quote:
So the question's come up twice, which means it needs a group answer.  Fair enough.

Attacks of Opportunity

1.  I'm going to assume you take an attack of opportunity whenever the *ahem* opportunity presents itself.  I will roll the dice for you to speed things up if that happens.

2.  In most cases, you're going to only get an attack of opportunity on one target.  However, there are crazy times when you might have more than one target in range who decides to move away in the same round.  My default assumption is this: you're going to attack the first creature that presents the opportunity (i.e.: the one highest in the initiative order, since they'd be running away first), and ignore the second (since you only have 1 reaction to use).

3.  If you have used your reaction for something else (casting a spell, grabbing onto a teammate who's about to fall off a cliff, etc.) then you don't get an attack of opportunity.

4.  If you have a feat (like War Caster, that allows you to make a non-melee attack, I'll be asking you what your default reaction might be.


So... what's your default reaction going to be?  And what do you want to do here -- we could roll back your attack of opportunity (since I *assumed* that), and then allow you to cast Silvery Barbs.  Or we can let this stand, since Humu is now effectively an NPC.
Sir Klaven Bobcat Ellis
Human Bard, 106 posts
Grinner, Performer, Liar
Viva le Verve
Thu 12 May 2022
at 23:34
  • msg #269

Re: The Pub Crawl:  OOC

AoO is never his prefered reaction. Silvery Barbs always prefered. Very sorry for nit saying this before.
Dungeon Master
GM, 193 posts
Fri 13 May 2022
at 01:08
  • msg #270

Re: The Pub Crawl:  OOC

No worries.  So Silvery Barbs can be used as a reaction to pretty much anything -- from a scratch on the knuckles to insta-death.  In a tabletop game, that's a pretty simple thing to manage -- you call out the reaction, the dice are re-rolled, the results are rationalised and play moves on.

Here, it's working out to be like a sort of instant-rewind of time/reality.  That's pretty powerful, but it's limited by the fact that you can't change any of the actions involved, only make a new dice roll apply and hope for a more favourable result.

What I'm trying to do here is work out how we can apply this reaction without slowing down combat to a crawl every round (which is why I said I'd handle the Attacks of Opportunity in the first place -- saves a round of back-and-forth posts).

I see two ways we can handle this (and we can use both, btw):

Option 1) Define a set of criteria which would trigger Klaven using Silvery Barbs -- it could be:
  • if an attack would reduce a teammates HP to zero,
  • if an enemy lands a critical hit,
  • if an enemy makes a saving throw, or
  • if an enemy makes an attack roll

Define the condition, and it the trigger matches, I'll apply the reaction for you and incorporate it into the post automatically.  This will held avoid the game getting bogged down every time you cast the spell.

Keep in mind, depending on your triggering condition(s), this could burn through your spell slots rather quickly.  You might want to put some limits on it (1st level spell slots only, or max 1 time per combat, etc.).

Option 2) You-the-player respond quickly when you want to cast the spell.  This more closely resembles the tabletop experience, but I'm going to want a really fast turn-around time from you -- say 24 hours?

Of course, there's no reason we can't use both options.  Your explicitly defined action in Option 2 would always have precedence over any auto-triggered ones.

Have a think about it and let me know what you would like to do.  If you come up with a different solution, please put it forward.  We're adapting on the fly here.
Sir Klaven Bobcat Ellis
Human Bard, 107 posts
Grinner, Performer, Liar
Viva le Verve
Fri 13 May 2022
at 01:44
  • msg #271

Re: The Pub Crawl:  OOC

I like both. Using your first two criteria with one first level slot per encounter cap works well for auto. Using it myself w/in 24 hrs will work too. Sometimes you do stuff out of emotion rather than logic.
Dungeon Master
GM, 194 posts
Fri 13 May 2022
at 01:51
  • msg #272

Re: The Pub Crawl:  OOC

Noted and done.  I'll post the results soon.
Sir Klaven Bobcat Ellis
Human Bard, 108 posts
Grinner, Performer, Liar
Viva le Verve
Fri 13 May 2022
at 18:06
  • msg #273

Re: The Pub Crawl:  OOC

2 Bards in 1 party = GM in the Bughouse.
Frilia Silverstring
Gnome Fighter, 81 posts
Fri 13 May 2022
at 18:56
  • msg #274

The Pub Crawl:  OOC

Sir Klaven Bobcat Ellis:
2 Bards in 1 party = GM in the Bughouse.


That's why we are fighting spiders!
Rain
Tabaxi Ranger, 76 posts
Mon 16 May 2022
at 06:41
  • msg #275

The Pub Crawl:  OOC

wow.....klaven see's a spider, he pisses himself. See's a beauitful tree nymph, he grows a spine.

What will happen when he sees a rabbit.

I WOULD LIKE IT RAGE!!!
Sir Klaven Bobcat Ellis
Human Bard, 110 posts
Grinner, Performer, Liar
Viva le Verve
Mon 16 May 2022
at 06:49
  • msg #276

The Pub Crawl:  OOC

LOL
More like rightious indignation over what he precieves as generations of angst from the Fey's kind.
Rain
Tabaxi Ranger, 77 posts
Mon 16 May 2022
at 07:05
  • msg #277

The Pub Crawl:  OOC

Still, i'd like to see a rabbit hop by and he go "FEY RABBIT - KILL!"
Frilia Silverstring
Gnome Fighter, 82 posts
Mon 16 May 2022
at 11:19
  • msg #278

Re: The Pub Crawl:  OOC

In reply to Rain (msg # 277):

You sure?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XcxKIJTb3Hg

XD
Frilia Silverstring
Gnome Fighter, 84 posts
Mon 16 May 2022
at 13:58
  • msg #279

The Pub Crawl:  OOC

Frilia will go in the tree... I wish I could understand what was said in sylvan! Lol
Dungeon Master
GM, 199 posts
Mon 16 May 2022
at 14:00
  • msg #280

The Pub Crawl:  OOC

At least I know the language function works.  >:)
Dungeon Master
GM, 200 posts
Mon 16 May 2022
at 14:09
  • msg #281

The Pub Crawl:  OOC

And Klaven, take an inspiration point here from the DM (already added to your ddb character sheet), for sticking true to character when it's not in your best interests.  :)
Sir Klaven Bobcat Ellis
Human Bard, 113 posts
Grinner, Performer, Liar
Viva le Verve
Mon 16 May 2022
at 14:16
  • msg #282

The Pub Crawl:  OOC

In reply to Dungeon Master (msg # 281):

Oh thank you. I hope that staying near the tree is a good compromise.

https://legendsandtruthsofthef...teresting-facts.html

There are no good fey. There are fey that will just toy with you and let you go back into a world that is hundreds of years past your time. Then there are the fey who keep and torture you.
Dungeon Master
GM, 201 posts
Mon 16 May 2022
at 14:30
  • msg #283

The Pub Crawl:  OOC

¯\_(ツ)_/¯

My fey are a little different (or are they?) -- but it's a valid viewpoint for Klaven-the-character to take.
Frilia Silverstring
Gnome Fighter, 86 posts
Mon 16 May 2022
at 21:16
  • msg #284

Re: The Pub Crawl:  OOC

I am preparing for a move this summer and have lots of stuff to do before, both at home and at the job. I will continue to post as often as I can, and will warn you when the crunch occurs but the quality/frequency of my posts might suffer in the meantime. Apologies in advance.
Sir Klaven Bobcat Ellis
Human Bard, 117 posts
Grinner, Performer, Liar
Viva le Verve
Wed 18 May 2022
at 08:25
  • msg #285

Re: The Pub Crawl:  OOC

Im still here. Im holding reactions for now.
Dungeon Master
GM, 206 posts
Thu 19 May 2022
at 08:47
  • msg #286

Re: The Pub Crawl:  OOC

Hi everyone.

KLaven has unfortunately decided to pull out of the game.  I'll be NPCing his character for the time being.

But we do have an new player, who has adopted Humu for the rest of the current chapter, and will be bringing a new PC to the party when Chapter 2 starts.
Dungeon Master
GM, 208 posts
Thu 19 May 2022
at 14:09
  • msg #287

Re: The Pub Crawl:  OOC

Heads-up for this weekend, people.

I'll be underwater for much of the weekend (going scuba diving), so it's unlikely I'll be able to post on Sat or Sun (remember I'm Australian, so that's probably Friday/Saturday for you people in the  Western Hemisphere).
Rain
Tabaxi Ranger, 81 posts
Fri 20 May 2022
at 02:11
  • msg #288

Re: The Pub Crawl:  OOC

have fun boss
Dungeon Master
GM, 210 posts
Fri 20 May 2022
at 09:40
  • msg #289

Re: The Pub Crawl:  OOC

Woo hoo!  Just hit the 50% mark on Campaign 1 for Critical Role -- almost done with episode 61.
Rain
Tabaxi Ranger, 83 posts
Fri 20 May 2022
at 09:44
  • msg #290

Re: The Pub Crawl:  OOC

lol

Just wait for the last episodes. You won't want to stop them their so epic
Dungeon Master
GM, 211 posts
Sat 21 May 2022
at 08:59
  • msg #291

Re: The Pub Crawl:  OOC

I know Felix has more questions for Tra'aelia.  Does anyone else have questions, or shall we move into a long rest?
Kursak
Half-Goliath Cleric, 77 posts
AC 18 HP 9/9 THP 0
Vigilant Blessing:
Sun 22 May 2022
at 06:02
  • msg #292

Re: The Pub Crawl:  OOC

I'll try to get caught up tomorrow.
Dungeon Master
GM, 212 posts
Sun 22 May 2022
at 10:45
  • msg #293

Re: The Pub Crawl:  OOC

Hi everyone, so we'll proceed to a long rest.

This will take everyone to level 2.  I'll be setting up PM threads with everyone individually to work through progression options.

@Felix, go ahead and ask your questions.
This message was last edited by the GM at 11:42, Sun 22 May 2022.
Felix Takmarin
Human Bard, 62 posts
Mon 23 May 2022
at 18:48
  • msg #294

Re: The Pub Crawl:  OOC

Posted.
Dungeon Master
GM, 220 posts
Wed 25 May 2022
at 06:39
  • msg #295

Re: The Pub Crawl:  OOC

Okay, time to out a name to this bunch of characters.  If nobody has any immediate suggestions, I can run a silly little teambuilding exercise and see what comes out of a word cloud... (you can really get some surprising results out of that, believe it or not).
This message was last edited by the GM at 06:40, Wed 25 May 2022.
Rain
Tabaxi Ranger, 87 posts
Wed 25 May 2022
at 09:52
  • msg #296

Re: The Pub Crawl:  OOC

little critical role nod there for those in the know.
Frilia Silverstring
Gnome Fighter, 90 posts
Wed 25 May 2022
at 10:18
  • msg #297

Re: The Pub Crawl:  OOC

In reply to Dungeon Master (msg # 295):

Are you sure we are ready for a team name? Technically we've known each other for 2 days...
Felix Takmarin
Human Bard, 68 posts
Wed 25 May 2022
at 10:28
  • msg #298

Re: The Pub Crawl:  OOC

I agree, it may be early as of yet, but here are some thoughts:

The Destined
Children of Destiny
The Claimed
Divine Redemption
The Faithful
Guardians of Destiny / Destiny's Guardians
Dungeon Master
GM, 221 posts
Wed 25 May 2022
at 12:23
  • msg #299

Re: The Pub Crawl:  OOC

Frilia Silverstring:
In reply to Dungeon Master (msg # 295):

Are you sure we are ready for a team name? Technically we've known each other for 2 days...


And been through some experiences together.  Plus, you've known some of them for much longer -- which is why I ran through that background exercise with you all.

You can probably discuss IC for a little while, but I'd like to get the name sorted by the time we start chapter 2.
Shera Draxalia
Human Warlock, 58 posts
Thu 26 May 2022
at 00:38
  • msg #300

Re: The Pub Crawl:  OOC

And yes I was thinking of the keys we type on for the name I just threw out.
Dungeon Master
GM, 222 posts
Thu 26 May 2022
at 02:29
  • msg #301

Re: The Pub Crawl:  OOC

Love it -- a callback to Vox Machina (voice machine being that they're all voice actors)

Also, "claves" shares a root word with "clavicle" (aka the collarbone, and part of the shoulder structure).  "Carrying fate on your shoulders" very thematically appropriate, as is the "keys" symbology.
Rain
Tabaxi Ranger, 89 posts
Thu 26 May 2022
at 02:32
  • msg #302

Re: The Pub Crawl:  OOC

that could work
Dungeon Master
GM, 223 posts
Fri 27 May 2022
at 13:36
  • msg #303

Re: The Pub Crawl:  OOC

Anybody else want to chip in?
Dungeon Master
GM, 226 posts
Mon 30 May 2022
at 01:06
  • msg #304

Re: The Pub Crawl:  OOC

Okay, I think we've allowed enough time.  I've thrown a couple more in there for fun.

We have:
  1. Children of Destiny
  2. The Claimed
  3. The Destined
  4. Destiny's Guardians
  5. Divine Redemption
  6. The Faithful
  7. Guardians of Destiny
  8. Fatalis Claves (The Fateful Keys)
  9. Fortuna Machina (Fate Machine)
  10. Fortuna Maxima (Greatest Fate)
  11. Fortuna Libertas (Fate + Freedom)
  12. ... write in your own


We're going to use Australian electoral rules here (mostly confusing: see https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Instant-runoff_voting if you're curious) -- but the short version is: give me your top 3 votes, in order.

This is mostly to give me (and others) a way to refer to the party in a singular term, instead of "you guys" or "the party" -- and for official negotiations with a group entity.
Kursak
Half-Goliath Cleric, 80 posts
AC 18 HP 13/13 THP 0
Vigilant Blessing:
Mon 30 May 2022
at 02:26
  • msg #305

The Pub Crawl:  OOC

1. Destiny's Own Guardians
2. Guardians of Destiny
3. Wardens Through Fate
Rain
Tabaxi Ranger, 91 posts
Mon 30 May 2022
at 04:44
  • msg #306

The Pub Crawl:  OOC

I like wardens through fate
Pasch Stormpaw
Leonin Barbarian, 1 post
Storm Herald
Mon 30 May 2022
at 13:43
  • msg #307

The Pub Crawl:  OOC

In reply to Rain (msg # 306):

Sempre Avanti - Always Forward
Semper Fidelis - Always Faithful
Frilia Silverstring
Gnome Fighter, 93 posts
Tue 31 May 2022
at 00:03
  • msg #308

The Pub Crawl:  OOC

Pasch Stormpaw:
In reply to Rain (msg # 306):

Semper Fidelis - Always Faithful


Are we US Marines now? XD
Pasch Stormpaw
Leonin Barbarian, 2 posts
Storm Herald
Tue 31 May 2022
at 01:20
  • msg #309

The Pub Crawl:  OOC

In reply to Frilia Silverstring (msg # 308):

I don't know about you, but I am...  =)
Rain
Tabaxi Ranger, 93 posts
Tue 31 May 2022
at 01:40
  • msg #310

The Pub Crawl:  OOC

If your the marine, i'm the sniper/scout
Pasch Stormpaw
Leonin Barbarian, 3 posts
Storm Herald
Tue 31 May 2022
at 01:44
  • msg #311

The Pub Crawl:  OOC

In reply to Rain (msg # 310):

No hun...  I think you misunderstand...  I was in the Marine Corps...
Rain
Tabaxi Ranger, 94 posts
Tue 31 May 2022
at 01:50
  • msg #312

The Pub Crawl:  OOC

Thank you for your service
Frilia Silverstring
Gnome Fighter, 94 posts
Tue 31 May 2022
at 02:21
  • msg #313

Re: The Pub Crawl:  OOC

In reply to Pasch Stormpaw (msg # 311):

Still in the RCAF here, Royal Canadian Air Force, 9 years and a half to go to retirement... that's the reason of the move this summer, military posting.
Pasch Stormpaw
Leonin Barbarian, 4 posts
Storm Herald
Tue 31 May 2022
at 02:51
  • msg #314

Re: The Pub Crawl:  OOC

Rain:
Thank you for your service


You're welcome  =)
Rain
Tabaxi Ranger, 95 posts
Tue 31 May 2022
at 02:54
  • msg #315

Re: The Pub Crawl:  OOC

...even though i'm in australia, i still respect those who served, no matter where. My brother in law served as an engineer and demolitionist. Now retired due to mental stress and PTSD
Felix Takmarin
Human Bard, 72 posts
Tue 31 May 2022
at 10:39
  • msg #316

Re: The Pub Crawl:  OOC

1. Guardians of Destiny
2. Wardens through Fate
3. Divine Redemption
Pasch Stormpaw
Leonin Barbarian, 5 posts
Storm Herald
Tue 31 May 2022
at 15:40
  • msg #317

Re: The Pub Crawl:  OOC

While I like Sempre Avanti and Semper Fidelis, I do kind of like Guardians of Destiny
Dungeon Master
GM, 229 posts
Fri 3 Jun 2022
at 05:58
  • msg #318

Re: The Pub Crawl:  OOC

What's the plan, guys and girls?
Felix Takmarin
Human Bard Cleric, 74 posts
Tue 7 Jun 2022
at 10:13
  • msg #319

Re: The Pub Crawl:  OOC

In reply to Dungeon Master (msg # 318):

Marching Order into the cave:  Felix will be right behind Minho, wherever that ends up being.  :)
Kursak
Half-Goliath Cleric, 84 posts
AC 18 HP 13/13 THP 0
Vigilant Blessing:
Tue 7 Jun 2022
at 13:18
  • msg #320

Re: The Pub Crawl:  OOC

I've been trying to figure out what in the world that little lump might be. The only things that make sense don't make sense. I'm looking forward to the reveal.
Dungeon Master
GM, 234 posts
Tue 7 Jun 2022
at 22:19
  • msg #321

Re: The Pub Crawl:  OOC

I hope it doesn't disappoint...
Dungeon Master
GM, 236 posts
Thu 9 Jun 2022
at 01:32
  • msg #322

Re: The Pub Crawl:  OOC

Hi all,

Just a note that I'll be going away for the next couple of days (public holiday on Monday means a long weekend).  I'll be around on discord, and will still have mobile access.  I'll take my laptop, etc, but just be aware I may not have a lot of time to post over the next few days.

At this point I would not expect a new post out until I return on Tuesday.  If I get a chance, and it's simple, etc., I will.  If it involves updating the maps (which a far more complex task than many people realise), it will probably wait.
Dungeon Master
GM, 237 posts
Fri 10 Jun 2022
at 00:20
  • msg #323

Re: The Pub Crawl:  OOC

Everyone make a perception roll, please.
Kursak
Half-Goliath Cleric, 87 posts
AC 18 HP 13/13 THP 0
Vigilant Blessing:
Fri 10 Jun 2022
at 02:17
  • msg #324

Re: The Pub Crawl:  OOC

21:17, Today: Kursak rolled 19 using 1d20+4.  Wis check. – [roll=1654827448.3099.365861]
Frilia Silverstring
Gnome Fighter, 102 posts
Fri 10 Jun 2022
at 02:18
  • msg #325

Re: The Pub Crawl:  OOC

Today: Secret Roll: Frilia Silverstring rolled 13 using 1d20+3 with rolls of 10.  perception
Shera Draxalia
Human Warlock, 62 posts
Fri 10 Jun 2022
at 02:31
  • msg #326

Re: The Pub Crawl:  OOC


19:30, Today: Shera Draxalia rolled 7 using 1d20 with rolls of 7.  Perception roll.
Felix Takmarin
Human Bard Cleric, 77 posts
Fri 10 Jun 2022
at 09:06
  • msg #327

Re: The Pub Crawl:  OOC

05:06, Today: Felix Takmarin rolled 10 using 1d20+2 ((8)).
Hannah Demsersk
Human Paladin, 59 posts
Mon 13 Jun 2022
at 13:35
  • msg #328

Re: The Pub Crawl:  OOC


23:34, Today: Hannah Demsersk rolled 12 using 1d20+2 ((10)).
Shera Draxalia
Human Warlock, 63 posts
Sun 19 Jun 2022
at 19:54
  • msg #329

Re: The Pub Crawl:  OOC

Happy father's to all the dad's that stuck around to be dads!
Frilia Silverstring
Gnome Fighter, 105 posts
Sun 19 Jun 2022
at 20:13
  • msg #330

The Pub Crawl:  OOC

I'll be traveling the next week (20-24 June), bringing the computer but I don't know how much time I'll have to give to RPOL.
Dungeon Master
GM, 240 posts
Mon 20 Jun 2022
at 03:00
  • msg #331

The Pub Crawl:  OOC

Thanks for letting us know.  :)
Dungeon Master
GM, 242 posts
Mon 20 Jun 2022
at 13:50
  • msg #332

The Pub Crawl:  OOC

Hannah:
Attacking spiderbody #1
23:40, Today: Hannah Demsersk rolled 29 using 2d20+6 ((20,3)). dropping the lowest
Natural 20 for Greatsword attack roll.

That's double damage dice, right?


23:43, Today: Hannah Demsersk rolled 11 using 2d6+4 ((5,2)).
23:43, Today: Hannah Demsersk rolled 11 using 2d6+4 ((3,4)).

Total damage of 22.


Not quite.  It would be double the dice rolled, not the same roll twice.

In this case, you'd roll 4d6+4, but I can use this result, and just take the extra 4 points off, leaving you with 18 dmg.

Also note someone else higher in the initiative order might consume that Advantage roll.  Here, it won't make a difference, since the 20 was the first roll you make ((20, then 3)).
Hannah Demsersk
Human Paladin, 63 posts
Mon 20 Jun 2022
at 14:18
  • msg #333

The Pub Crawl:  OOC

Oh right, gotcha. Sorry it's been a while since I've done any dice rolls. I'm a bit rusty lol
Dungeon Master
GM, 245 posts
Sun 26 Jun 2022
at 02:47
  • msg #334

The Pub Crawl:  OOC

Hi everyone.  It was quite late last night when I posted, so the probability that I made a mistake or two is higher than normal.  When you post, please call out if something's not right with your character's actions.  I'll try to fix it if I can.
Hannah Demsersk
Human Paladin, 65 posts
Sun 26 Jun 2022
at 17:20
  • msg #335

The Pub Crawl:  OOC

sorry for the lack of posts everyone, my messages weren't coming through for some reason
Kursak
Half-Goliath Cleric, 94 posts
AC 18 HP 13/13 THP 0
Vigilant Blessing:
Mon 27 Jun 2022
at 18:35
  • msg #336

The Pub Crawl:  OOC

There's an RPoL app if you need notifications.
Dungeon Master
GM, 246 posts
Tue 28 Jun 2022
at 13:52
  • msg #337

The Pub Crawl:  OOC

Slight delay on this post, people.  :)  I'm working on hand-importing (because the source data is a mess), some 380 records into a db.  Not strenuous, but it *is* time-consuming.  Hope to put out a post tomorrow.
Dungeon Master
GM, 249 posts
Sun 3 Jul 2022
at 13:07
  • msg #338

The Pub Crawl:  OOC

I'll give you all another day or so for posting.
Dungeon Master
GM, 251 posts
Wed 6 Jul 2022
at 23:41
  • msg #339

The Pub Crawl:  OOC

So far I've only seen responses from Felix and Hannah.  I'll give the rest of you another day or so for posting.
Dungeon Master
GM, 253 posts
Mon 11 Jul 2022
at 06:22
  • msg #340

The Pub Crawl:  OOC

Hey people.  I'm under the weather right now (hoping it's just a winter cold and not more serious), so you have another day or so to post...
Rain
Tabaxi Ranger, 109 posts
Mon 11 Jul 2022
at 07:51
  • msg #341

The Pub Crawl:  OOC

Get better soon dude....read some of ya comics <grumble, grumble>
Dungeon Master
GM, 254 posts
Tue 12 Jul 2022
at 13:21
  • msg #342

The Pub Crawl:  OOC

FYI, I'm down with a case of covid.  In theory this means more time available for rpol, but the fatigue is a major contrary factor.

We'll see how it plays out.
Shera Draxalia
Human Warlock, 68 posts
Wed 13 Jul 2022
at 00:17
  • msg #343

The Pub Crawl:  OOC

Ouch. Get well soon!
Dungeon Master
GM, 256 posts
Wed 13 Jul 2022
at 12:07
  • msg #344

The Pub Crawl:  OOC

And with this post, we've hit 1,000.  Yay us!  Silly milestone, know, but it gets me excited.  :)
Felix Takmarin
Human Bard Cleric, 85 posts
Thu 14 Jul 2022
at 12:28
  • msg #345

Re: The Pub Crawl:  OOC

Sorry to hear that Chad.  Feel better soon!

I got hit with a sore throat and a 102 fever, but it's not COVID.  Fever finally passed, but still got the sore throat.
Frilia Silverstring
Gnome Fighter, 113 posts
Sun 17 Jul 2022
at 02:15
  • msg #346

Re: The Pub Crawl:  OOC

I'm in the crunch of the last days before my move, so I'll post only if I can, and expect shorts one, until I'm settled in my new place.
Rain
Tabaxi Ranger, 112 posts
Sun 17 Jul 2022
at 23:02
  • msg #347

Re: The Pub Crawl:  OOC

Just to let everyone know that (like chad) I have come down with Covid.can vouch for the lethargy and aches but will try to keep up
Shera Draxalia
Human Warlock, 71 posts
Sun 17 Jul 2022
at 23:37
  • msg #348

Re: The Pub Crawl:  OOC

Feel better soon!
Dungeon Master
GM, 258 posts
Fri 22 Jul 2022
at 02:49
  • msg #349

Re: The Pub Crawl:  OOC

Looks like July is a bad month for people.  I'll give you all a bit more time to post, but I would like to get this moving along if we can.
Rain
Tabaxi Ranger, 113 posts
Fri 22 Jul 2022
at 03:39
  • msg #350

Re: The Pub Crawl:  OOC

Give me a few days and i should be back to full strength chad. Still a bit weak
Dungeon Master
GM, 259 posts
Fri 22 Jul 2022
at 05:46
  • msg #351

Re: The Pub Crawl:  OOC

No problem.  I know where most people (inc. you) are at and what's getting in the way.
Lee Minho
Human Rogue, 39 posts
AC 14| HP 10/10
PP 13| PI 10 PIns 11
Sat 23 Jul 2022
at 12:31
  • msg #352

Re: The Pub Crawl:  OOC

Are you feeling better now, Chad? If so, I will post Minho attacking the sleeping spider swarm. I was really just waiting until you were more fit to respond and most everyone else was down for the count too, so I didn't feel as much need to hurry with it.
Dungeon Master
GM, 260 posts
Sat 23 Jul 2022
at 13:09
  • msg #353

Re: The Pub Crawl:  OOC

Yeah, thanks for asking.  I'm 100% covid-free.  I had a headache at roughly 8.5 on the richter  scale, and a blocked up nose along with varying levels of fatigue which lasted 2-3 days all up.  Then it was all upswing, and waiting out the rest of the mandatory self-isolation period.

Back out and about.  :)
Rain
Tabaxi Ranger, 114 posts
Tue 26 Jul 2022
at 03:25
  • msg #354

Re: The Pub Crawl:  OOC

Good to hear chad. I too am now Covid free, and though still have some residual aches and headache, I am a lot better.

I’ll get a post up tonight for ya
Shera Draxalia
Human Warlock, 72 posts
Tue 2 Aug 2022
at 04:31
  • msg #355

Re: The Pub Crawl:  OOC

Sorry guys internet super sucks right now won't be able to post until tomorrow at the earliest.
Dungeon Master
GM, 262 posts
Tue 2 Aug 2022
at 04:47
  • msg #356

Re: The Pub Crawl:  OOC

Okay, no worries.

Thanks for letting us know.
Dungeon Master
GM, 264 posts
Sat 20 Aug 2022
at 14:20
  • msg #357

Re: The Pub Crawl:  OOC

Hey team,  I'm looking at moving this forward tomorrow (if real life permits).  If you haven't posted but were meaning to, this is your prompt.
Dungeon Master
GM, 266 posts
Sun 28 Aug 2022
at 18:33
  • msg #358

Re: The Pub Crawl:  OOC

Hey team,

There's been a death in the (extended but close) family.  There might be a delay in the next post.

Thanks in advance for your patience.
Shera Draxalia
Human Warlock, 74 posts
Sun 28 Aug 2022
at 20:38
  • msg #359

Re: The Pub Crawl:  OOC

Sorry for your loss. Take as much time as you need.
Rain
Tabaxi Ranger, 119 posts
Mon 29 Aug 2022
at 09:37
  • msg #360

Re: The Pub Crawl:  OOC

take all the time you need dude
Hannah Demsersk
Human Paladin, 73 posts
Mon 29 Aug 2022
at 13:58
  • msg #361

Re: The Pub Crawl:  OOC

My Condolences Chad
Frilia Silverstring
Gnome Fighter, 117 posts
Fri 2 Sep 2022
at 10:54
  • msg #362

The Pub Crawl:  OOC

Going to see the newest member of my family this long weekend, first grand kid, my posting will be minimal for a few days.
Hannah Demsersk
Human Paladin, 74 posts
Sat 3 Sep 2022
at 14:10
  • msg #363

The Pub Crawl:  OOC

Congratulations on the grandchild!
Shera Draxalia
Human Warlock, 75 posts
Mon 5 Sep 2022
at 20:31
  • msg #364

The Pub Crawl:  OOC

Congrats!
Dungeon Master
GM, 274 posts
Mon 26 Sep 2022
at 05:36
  • msg #365

The Pub Crawl:  OOC

I'll leave it to you guys to determine how to split the mini-hoard.

Some maths to ease you on your way:
4 pp -- does not split 9 ways
594 gp -- splits evenly into 66gp each
640 sp -- splits into 71sp each, with 1sp left over
30 cp -- splits into 3 cp each, with 3cp left over

Or you could split by value:
698.3 split 9 ways comes to 77gp, 5sp, 8cp (with 8cp left over)... but you don't have the actual coins to be able to split...

What to do...  >;)
Rain
Tabaxi Ranger, 127 posts
Mon 26 Sep 2022
at 05:42
  • msg #366

The Pub Crawl:  OOC

I say we split the gold, silver and copper, and leave the excess as well as the PP as 'party funds'
Felix Takmarin
Human Bard Cleric, 93 posts
Tue 27 Sep 2022
at 11:34
  • msg #367

The Pub Crawl:  OOC

Works for me.
Dungeon Master
GM, 279 posts
Tue 27 Sep 2022
at 13:40
  • msg #368

The Pub Crawl:  OOC

Who's going to:
a) act as the party treasurer, and
b) carry said party funds?

Questions to consider.  :)
Kursak
Half-Goliath Cleric, 106 posts
AC 18 HP 13/13 THP 0
Vigilant Blessing: Frilia
Wed 28 Sep 2022
at 00:48
  • msg #369

The Pub Crawl:  OOC

Kursak has the capacity for it, but he needs the containers.
Rain
Tabaxi Ranger, 131 posts
Wed 28 Sep 2022
at 04:00
  • msg #370

The Pub Crawl:  OOC

we must all have packs....
Dungeon Master
GM, 281 posts
Wed 28 Sep 2022
at 04:06
  • msg #371

The Pub Crawl:  OOC

Most of your backpacks are full-to-bursting.  The stated weight capacity of a backpack is 30 lbs.  I consider the bedroll, rope, and the waterskin (25 lbs total) to be tied to the outside of the pack, which still leaves the rest of the pack overflowing at 35 lbs carried...
Rain
Tabaxi Ranger, 133 posts
Wed 28 Sep 2022
at 04:12
  • msg #372

The Pub Crawl:  OOC

there are eight of us....surely we separate the coins and could cover most of it
Dungeon Master
GM, 282 posts
Wed 28 Sep 2022
at 04:48
  • msg #373

The Pub Crawl:  OOC

There are nine of you:
* Felix, Frilia, Hannah
* Kursak, Minho, Rain
* Shera, HuMu, Klaven

I'm not fussed how you want to do it; that's up to you guys.

You just need to tell me who has what; I'll just keep track.
Rain
Tabaxi Ranger, 134 posts
Wed 28 Sep 2022
at 04:56
  • msg #374

The Pub Crawl:  OOC

well, i'll keep the vial for now, as well as the material and the coins i had
Kursak
Half-Goliath Cleric, 108 posts
AC 18 HP 13/13 THP 0
Vigilant Blessing: Frilia
Wed 28 Sep 2022
at 05:01
  • msg #375

Re: The Pub Crawl:  OOC

Where's an artificer or forge cleric when you need one, eh?
Rain
Tabaxi Ranger, 135 posts
Wed 28 Sep 2022
at 05:02
  • msg #376

Re: The Pub Crawl:  OOC

lol...was almost an artificer
Dungeon Master
GM, 283 posts
Wed 28 Sep 2022
at 05:09
  • msg #377

The Pub Crawl:  OOC

The cloth is a heavy ceremonial-style robe -- weighs about 5 lbs each.  The vial is smaller, and weighs about half a pound.

To carry both of the robes in your backpack, you'd need to drop a combination of 11 lbs (they're bulky and the pack is already overloaded) of gear from it.  What are you dropping?

quote:
some rations, a flint and steel and two torches


Torches are 1 lbs each.
Flint & Steel is something you don't carry -- did you mean the tinderbox (1 lbs)?
You'd need to drop 7 lbs. of rations to make up the difference...

Is that what you want to do?
Rain
Tabaxi Ranger, 136 posts
Wed 28 Sep 2022
at 05:13
  • msg #378

The Pub Crawl:  OOC

i'll leave the robes with the coins to pick up later
Kursak
Half-Goliath Cleric, 109 posts
AC 18 HP 13/13 THP 0
Vigilant Blessing: Frilia
Wed 28 Sep 2022
at 05:14
  • msg #379

Re: The Pub Crawl:  OOC

Any rolls required to cut up some of that cloth and fashion it into "sacks" we can tie off and then secure to a backpack?
This message had punctuation tweaked by the player at 05:15, Wed 28 Sept 2022.
Dungeon Master
GM, 284 posts
Wed 28 Sep 2022
at 05:59
  • msg #380

Re: The Pub Crawl:  OOC

#37 in "rolls you never knew you needed"

Make an Intelligence roll.  You can make 1 sack with each robe.  You'll need a foot of rope (per sack) to make a drawstring.

Who's going to cut up the rope and carry the sack(s)?
Rain
Tabaxi Ranger, 137 posts
Wed 28 Sep 2022
at 06:04
  • msg #381

Re: The Pub Crawl:  OOC

someone strong.


....so i'm out
Dungeon Master
GM, 285 posts
Wed 28 Sep 2022
at 06:13
  • msg #382

Re: The Pub Crawl:  OOC

Hannah's the strongest in the group, but you'd have to ask her if she's willing to carry it.
Kursak
Half-Goliath Cleric, 110 posts
AC 18 HP 13/13 THP 0
Vigilant Blessing: Frilia
Wed 28 Sep 2022
at 21:40
  • msg #383

Re: The Pub Crawl:  OOC

I've got a +0 Int, but I'm happy to roll it if no one else wants to rig up a sack for us.
Hannah Demsersk
Human Paladin, 81 posts
Fri 30 Sep 2022
at 14:42
  • msg #384

Re: The Pub Crawl:  OOC

I'd be happy to carry the sacks.
Hannah Demsersk
Human Paladin, 83 posts
Sun 2 Oct 2022
at 14:01
  • msg #385

Re: The Pub Crawl:  OOC

I just realised I am in a completely different area than i thought so... ignore my last post about stealthing and perception haha
Kursak
Half-Goliath Cleric, 117 posts
AC 18 HP 13/13 THP 0
Vigilant Blessing: Frilia
Wed 26 Oct 2022
at 16:26
  • msg #386

Re: The Pub Crawl:  OOC

If we can destroy the place where they made the abominations, as far as like burning the tendrils and things like that, Kursak would push for that as well. Broad strokes sounds good to me.
Dungeon Master
GM, 297 posts
Thu 27 Oct 2022
at 16:13
  • msg #387

Re: The Pub Crawl:  OOC

Items on the agenda for the denouement:
* return to Tra'aelaia and report the job done
* Felix has an open deal with Tra'aelaia -- if he can explain how the abominations were able to byoass her wards, she'll give him some much-desired personal information.
* return to Asarius, talk to Khaturr.  He wanted to know what happened to his man Agostin.
* Kursak: resummon Isolde
* Kursak: pray re: dragon egg
* a long rest is probably on the cards as well.
Dungeon Master
GM, 298 posts
Wed 2 Nov 2022
at 02:19
  • msg #388

Re: The Pub Crawl:  OOC

Prompting for closure actions.  If I don't see anything else by Friday (my time; it's Wednesday now), I'll proceed with the list above.
Shera Draxalia
Human Warlock, 78 posts
Wed 2 Nov 2022
at 03:42
  • msg #389

Re: The Pub Crawl:  OOC

Hey guys sorry its been so long since any of you have heard from me. It's been a rough few weeks to say the least. Posting now, or at least gonna try to. Hope all are doing well.
Dungeon Master
GM, 300 posts
Sun 6 Nov 2022
at 10:21
  • msg #390

Re: The Pub Crawl:  OOC

Fir the main party (everyone except Pasch) -- how are you planning to get to Jigow?

The simplest option would be use some of the gold you found to purchase horses and ride.  If you have another plan, let me know that.

Ancillary to that question -- right now, the treasure is all with Hannah, who is carrying the sacks of coins and treasure.
  • Are you splitting the treasure?  If so, how?
  • Is there a "party fund"?  If so, what's in it, who keeps it, how's it carried, etc.?



These are questions for the characters, not for the DM to decide.  :)
Lee Minho
Human Rogue, 48 posts
AC 14| HP 10/10
PP 13| PI 10 PIns 11
Sun 6 Nov 2022
at 10:28
  • msg #391

The Pub Crawl:  OOC

Well, Minho has a horse unless something happened to it while I’ve been without a laptop. And I was under the assumption that the party had decided we were splitting it with the pp and the leftover coins going into a party fund, but I have been absent for a bit, so that might not be the case.
Dungeon Master
GM, 301 posts
Sun 6 Nov 2022
at 10:36
  • msg #392

The Pub Crawl:  OOC

That's what was *discussed*.

That's not what played out.
Dungeon Master
GM, 302 posts
Mon 7 Nov 2022
at 01:46
  • msg #393

The Pub Crawl:  OOC

Near as I can tell, this is what played out:

Items
WhatWho has it
Holy Symbol of XalicasFelix
Prayer Book of XalicasFelix
small mirror in painted frameHannah
carved bone statuetteHannah
a stoppered vial of shimmery clear liquidRain

Coins
PPGPEPSPCPWho has it
  21  Minho
4594 2 Rain
   300 Frilia
51533 763560Hannah
551127211065560Totals

In terms of possession, Hannah has most of it, simply because she's carrying the two sacks.  Rain and Frilia filled their pockets before it got to the point...
Rain
Tabaxi Ranger, 150 posts
Mon 7 Nov 2022
at 08:44
  • msg #394

The Pub Crawl:  OOC

Well that's a lot of loot.

I suggest we divide equally, find buyers for items we don't need.

Each person either ship for mundane or magical items (which I do not doubt will be horrendously overpriced!) OR convert to gems for ease of transportation
Dungeon Master
GM, 303 posts
Mon 7 Nov 2022
at 12:53
  • msg #395

The Pub Crawl:  OOC

quote:
magical items (which I do not doubt will be horrendously overpriced!)


You're not wrong there.  Though mostly because the recommended retail prices for magical items are seriously underpriced in the DMG.




Okay, I've had discussions with a few of you, and the current proposal is this:

quote:
Either split equally (the coins) or maybe allocate  a treasurer.


I'm not a fan of the first (me splitting the coins out) because it takes away from your choice -- you want more of the treasure?  Your character can grab it, and then deal with the consequences later.  That's a roleplaying opportunity right there, and I'm not going to stand in the way of that.  You don't want to grab more?  That's another choice.  Either way, it's you exercising your options, not me dictating what happens.

But not everyone wants to get bogged down in the minutia of "what goes where and how much am I carrying" etc..  Personally, I love it, because it (a) gives me more to play with as a DM (oh no, your guards have been overrun and your wagon stolen!  What are you going to do?!), and as a player, it helps my sense of realism (ever tried being stealthy with a 60lb. backpack on your back?  Now you know why you have disadvantage on that roll.).  It's why you don't have a bag of holding (yet).  But not everyone wants to get into that level of detail, and that's okay.

A happy middle ground is to appoint a treasurer (someone to manage the coin), and possibly a quartermaster (someone to manage supplies -- rations, horses for travel, chests to keep your treasure in, etc.).  Vox Machina does this by using Vex'alia as the treasurer, and Grog with the Bag of Holding as the quartermaster.

Right now, Hannah's got the lion's share of the treasure, because she volunteered to carry it all back to Asarius.  She's offered to continue as the Treasurer -- keeping track of the loot, and doling out funds where necessary/appropriate/requested.  I will help wherever I can or when requested, but unless someone else wants to job, she's now in charge of the coin.

As for the quartermaster, if someone in the party doesn't want to job, there's another option on the table:  you can hire one.  Skilled labour in the DMG is costed out at 2gp per day, and we can work out how many people you need in broad strokes and pay for a block of their time.
  • You'll need horses, tack, saddles, feed, and such for the trip to Jigow, and potentially onward.
  • If your packs are bulging, and you want to go into a spider-cave and loot stuff, you probably want to leave some stuff back with the horses.  That means you'll probably want guards to guard your stuff.


I'll give you all a little bit of time to think/discuss.  If not further options are floated here, then I'll take the above plan as approved by general consensus, and work with Hannah on the costs and such.
This message was last edited by the GM at 15:57, Mon 07 Nov 2022.
Kursak
Half-Goliath Cleric, 118 posts
AC 18 HP 13/13 THP 0
Vigilant Blessing: Frilia
Mon 7 Nov 2022
at 16:24
  • msg #396

The Pub Crawl:  OOC

I'll take on the quartermaster role.
Frilia Silverstring
Gnome Fighter, 130 posts
Tue 8 Nov 2022
at 03:05
  • msg #397

The Pub Crawl:  OOC

I agree with the treasurer and quartermaster roles and who has applied for them. I also agree that we better off having mounts for the next trip. Frillia, being small sized, will pick a couple of Mastiffs with her share, one as a pack animal and the other as a mount, with all the necessary accessories. Ideally she would like to get a breastplate if she can, but it's not essential now. What will be is to get more arrows.
Rain
Tabaxi Ranger, 151 posts
Tue 8 Nov 2022
at 09:57
  • msg #398

The Pub Crawl:  OOC

Rain can get a pony, but she'd use it as a pack horse - as a tracker and scout, she will mostly be on foot
Lee Minho
Human Rogue, 49 posts
AC 14| HP 10/10
PP 13| PI 10 PIns 11
Tue 8 Nov 2022
at 13:36
  • msg #399

The Pub Crawl:  OOC

Cool. Minho wants studded leather since he can’t wear medium/heavy armor and I now don’t really have the option to save money for anything better than that ie magical, so this will probably be the last time I ask for money.
Dungeon Master
GM, 304 posts
Tue 8 Nov 2022
at 14:10
  • msg #400

The Pub Crawl:  OOC

I would suggest:

if you're buying requesting out of party funds, post it in the Party Loot thread... @Hannah, I'd suggest you using the first post in that thread as the place to keep the current balance, and use the posts underneath as a place for people to request items (like Minho's studded leather armour, for instance).

If you're paying out of your own personal funds, talk to me to confirm prices and such.
Dungeon Master
GM, 305 posts
Tue 8 Nov 2022
at 23:54
  • msg #401

The Pub Crawl:  OOC

Last call for any purchases...
Frilia Silverstring
Gnome Fighter, 131 posts
Wed 9 Nov 2022
at 12:30
  • msg #402

The Pub Crawl:  OOC

Was the breastplate included in the purchases?
Dungeon Master
GM, 306 posts
Wed 9 Nov 2022
at 14:06
  • msg #403

The Pub Crawl:  OOC

It was not.  Here's what was included -- you can each add these to your character sheets on dndbeyond:


FelixRiding Horse
 Bit & Bridle
 Riding Saddle
 Saddlebags
 Feed (10 days)
 ----------------------
FriliaMastiff
 Mastiff #2
 Harness & LeadUse the stat block for a Bit & Bridle, but just rename it in the customisations
 Riding Saddle
 Saddlebags
 Feed (20 days)Twice as many animals to feed...
 Quiver
 Arrows (20)
 ----------------------
HannahRiding Horse
 Bit & Bridle
 Riding Saddle
 Saddlebags
 Feed (10 days)
 ----------------------
KlavenRiding Horse
 Bit & Bridle
 Riding Saddle
 Saddlebags
 Feed (10 days)
 Studded Leather Armour
 ----------------------
KursakRiding Horse
 Bit & Bridle
 Riding Saddle
 Saddlebags
 Feed (10 days)
 Case, Crossbow Bolt
 ----------------------
MinhoSaddlebags
 Feed (10 days)
 Quiver
 Arrows (20)
 Studded Leather Armour
 ----------------------
RainPony
 Bit & Bridle
 Pack Saddle
 Saddlebags
 Feed (10 days)
 QuiverPersonal Funds
 Arrows (40)
 ----------------------
SheraRiding Horse
 Bit & Bridle
 Riding Saddle
 Saddlebags
 Feed (10 days)

Dungeon Master
GM, 308 posts
Thu 10 Nov 2022
at 12:21
  • msg #404

The Pub Crawl:  OOC

Hey everyone.  Just a note that I'm changing the the OOC font colour.  I found the orange too distracting, and I want the focus to be on the game.  So I'm changing the OOC font colour to gray.  It'll also be in the <small> tags as well, for a similar reason.
Shera Draxalia
Human Warlock, 80 posts
Wed 16 Nov 2022
at 22:59
  • msg #405

The Pub Crawl:  OOC

Sorry guys ended up getting pretty sick will try and post as soon as I can.
Dungeon Master
GM, 316 posts
Thu 17 Nov 2022
at 00:55
  • msg #406

The Pub Crawl:  OOC

No problem.  Thanks for letting us know.
Dungeon Master
GM, 317 posts
Fri 18 Nov 2022
at 02:19
  • msg #407

The Pub Crawl:  OOC

G'day everyone.  Just a broadcast announcement.  There is a fairly active discord server you may with to join.  Fred (aka Frilia) runs the server, and most of our players (Felix, Kursak, Minho, Pasch, Rain, and myself) are on it.  We even have a channel dedicated to this game.

There's no requirement to join, but you will miss out on some OOC chatter / impromptu strategizing.  If you're on the fence, I'd recommend joining (and possibly muting all other channels) to avoid discord fatigue.

This link will expire in 7 days.  If you want a new one after that, send me a PM.

https://discord.gg/RnmudKj9
Pasch Stormpaw
Leonin Barbarian, 17 posts
Storm Herald
Sun 4 Dec 2022
at 04:00
  • msg #408

Re: The Pub Crawl:  OOC

Question for Rain...  How big is your "lizard" friend?
Dungeon Master
GM, 331 posts
Sun 4 Dec 2022
at 04:06
  • msg #409

Re: The Pub Crawl:  OOC

Officially, its size is Tiny.

That puts it about the size of a house cat, but not the size of a backyard dog.
This message had punctuation tweaked by the GM at 04:06, Sun 04 Dec 2022.
Kursak
Half-Goliath Cleric, 129 posts
AC 18 HP 18/18 THP 0
Vigilant Blessing: Frilia
Sun 4 Dec 2022
at 04:11
  • msg #410

Re: The Pub Crawl:  OOC

My mental image had it sized like a Labrador. That changes things a bit.
Pasch Stormpaw
Leonin Barbarian, 18 posts
Storm Herald
Sun 4 Dec 2022
at 04:13
  • msg #411

Re: The Pub Crawl:  OOC

I was thinking in lizard sizes...  I had a mental image the size of a monitor but I'm guessing now iguana-ish?
Dungeon Master
GM, 332 posts
Sun 4 Dec 2022
at 04:16
  • msg #412

Re: The Pub Crawl:  OOC

It will grow fast, but it's still early days. Iguana's probably the right size for now.
Shera Draxalia
Human Warlock, 81 posts
Thu 8 Dec 2022
at 06:46
  • msg #413

Re: The Pub Crawl:  OOC

Yay I'm finally back and able to post! ;p I know I've never been that active in this game and am sorry but hoping to change that. Where are we at? Or rather where did I end up?
Kursak
Half-Goliath Cleric, 132 posts
AC 18 HP 18/18 THP 0
Vigilant Blessing: Frilia
Thu 8 Dec 2022
at 16:04
  • msg #414

Re: The Pub Crawl:  OOC

We needed to sacrifice someone to a dark deity via a swarm of spider-rat monstrosities in exchange for 22 gold pieces so that we could buy Klaven a pair of velvet boots. Shera didn't object when we suggested it be her, so...
This message was last edited by the player at 22:56, Thu 08 Dec 2022.
Kursak
Half-Goliath Cleric, 133 posts
AC 18 HP 18/18 THP 0
Vigilant Blessing: Frilia
Thu 8 Dec 2022
at 16:07
  • msg #415

Re: The Pub Crawl:  OOC

We cleared the cave, grabbed the loot, and bout some horses, and made our way to the city where we are now. We're currently participating in some fair games while waiting for the big event, but while new-member Pasch was in a swimming contest she was just attacked by sharks, and that's our current scene.
Shera Draxalia
Human Warlock, 82 posts
Thu 8 Dec 2022
at 21:58
  • msg #416

Re: The Pub Crawl:  OOC

Cool tyvm
Rain
Tabaxi Ranger, 162 posts
Fri 9 Dec 2022
at 09:42
  • msg #417

Re: The Pub Crawl:  OOC

welcome back
Shera Draxalia
Human Warlock, 83 posts
Fri 9 Dec 2022
at 20:01
  • msg #418

Re: The Pub Crawl:  OOC

In reply to Rain (msg # 417):

Ty ^_^
Yawgo
Tortle Druid, 1 post
Mon 3 Apr 2023
at 17:29
  • msg #419

Re: The Pub Crawl:  OOC

*takes a slow moving step forwards*
Yawgo
Tortle Druid, 7 posts
Mon 10 Apr 2023
at 15:03
  • msg #420

Re: The Pub Crawl:  OOC

Playing a young tortle that is like Oogway is tough lol!
Yawgo
Tortle Druid, 9 posts
Big Shell, Small Size
Spore Druid
Thu 13 Apr 2023
at 12:44
  • msg #421

Re: The Pub Crawl:  OOC

Tired of speaking like this I am lol
Kursak
Half-Goliath Cleric, 184 posts
AC 18 HP 18/18 THP 9
Vigilant Blessing: Hannah
Thu 13 Apr 2023
at 13:46
  • msg #422

The Pub Crawl:  OOC

Change your character traits, you must.
Yawgo
Tortle Druid, 10 posts
Big Shell, Small Size
Spore Druid
Thu 13 Apr 2023
at 13:50
  • msg #423

The Pub Crawl:  OOC

Make sense it does not. Stick with this I suppose I shall.

lol
Dungeon Master
GM, 404 posts
Thu 13 Apr 2023
at 14:44
  • msg #424

The Pub Crawl:  OOC

It can be tough.  I've done it before, though perhaps not to Yoda levels (I used to try to "write" with an Irish accent when playing a character from Ireland).

If you are finding it more tough than fun, then you definitely need to change.  There are a couple of ways you can do this.

1) Gradually improve Yawgo's speech fluency over the course of a few in-game weeks.  Down time can really help with this; simply declare that you're spending some of your downtime practicing Common and when the "camera" comes back on, hey, you're a lot more fluent!  On the road travel time is great for this, and we don't need to roleplay every conversation to do it, either.

This has the advantage of staying true to the character, but it does mean you're stuck with him like this for the time being.  Consider it a roleplaying challenge.  (Remember when Sam Riegel first spoke as Nott the Brave?  I think he said something "yep, I'm committing to this voice for the next two years".  He's a professional voice actor, but even that seemed difficult for him.)

2) Make his yoda-speech a feature of the way Yawgo learned Common, and let him speak some other language natively.  This can also be used to excellent roleplaying effect.  Get frustrated/eager/panicked/excited?  Start speaking rapidly in your native tongue (from your character sheet, I'd suggest Draconic), and then have to slow down and switch back to Common.

Use the [Language Draconic: rpol language groups] function to do this.  I'm reasonably certain someone within the group also speaks Draconic, so communication is still possible -- and that leads to roleplay!

3) Third option: Just switch straight away to a more natural language pattern.  We're all adults here, and can all understand when we've written ourselves into a corner.  We'll forgive quite easily and just ignore the previous few posts and assume Yawgo's always been speaking normally.

You can also combine 1 and 2 -- assume Yawgo's not a native speaker of Common (option 2), and improve his fluency over time (option 1).
Yawgo
Tortle Druid, 11 posts
Big Shell, Small Size
Spore Druid
Thu 13 Apr 2023
at 16:31
  • msg #425

The Pub Crawl:  OOC

Its actually Aquan. But that can work. Starts talking in the Common tongue, something like what just happened he starts talking in Aquan fast. It could proved to be very funny. Going to be funny when people think Yawgo isn't very smart. Oh he is. Very smart :)

Got the personality of 'Speak Softly, Carry a big stick'.

Ahh don't got special texts set up? Like Aquan, Draconoc. Orc, ect?
This message was last edited by the player at 16:44, Thu 13 Apr 2023.
Dungeon Master
GM, 405 posts
Thu 13 Apr 2023
at 16:45
  • msg #426

The Pub Crawl:  OOC

Well, I'm not using Aquan in this game.  Closest equivalent would be Primordial (which covers the languages spoken by the elementals).  On your character sheet, you've got Common, Draconic, Druidic  (which in my game is not a spoken language, but a language of symbol and signs), and Orc.

I figured Draconic was a closer fit for a native tongue than Orcish.  Lizardfolk and Yuan-yi also speak Draconic, so used that as a basis for all reptilian (and adjacent, like amphibian) races...
Yawgo
Tortle Druid, 12 posts
Big Shell, Small Size
Spore Druid
Thu 13 Apr 2023
at 16:55
  • msg #427

The Pub Crawl:  OOC

I don't have access to it at the moment. Maybe he will 'sign' at people like you know the middle finger? LMAO j/k.

Draconic would work.

'Tortles that speak in Common usually do so painfully slow to their listeners, which is a reflection of their normal pace.'
Frilia Silverstring
Gnome Fighter, 187 posts
Fri 14 Apr 2023
at 00:13
  • msg #428

The Pub Crawl:  OOC

I can feel some of your pain, I wanted to try something different in a game GMed by Rain, and had my little ranger almost always finish her sentences with a question... sometimes it's hard to keep up and get the right question to finish a statement of facts :P

In another game, unfortunately probably permanently stopped, my warforged was absolutely incapable of speaking in the first person, always referring to himself with his name. I had just started to reveal why he was like that, a great (IMHO) RP reason, when the gm's IRL got the best of him. *cries*
This message was last edited by the player at 00:16, Fri 14 Apr 2023.
Yawgo
Tortle Druid, 13 posts
Big Shell, Small Size
Spore Druid
Fri 14 Apr 2023
at 01:20
  • msg #429

The Pub Crawl:  OOC

Maybe I should do that.

Attacking you? What does it solve?

Solve nothing it does, why ask?

Healing is what I do, asking do you need it?

Do or do not, there is no try. Try you can, what can it hurt?

lol. I can keep going.....but I got the feeling the group would hate me.

Peacekeeper with anger managment. Good times.

The warforged or a android and Yawgo together? OMG.
Yawgo
Tortle Druid, 15 posts
Big Shell, Small Size
Spore Druid
Fri 14 Apr 2023
at 17:39
  • msg #430

The Pub Crawl:  OOC

*pulls out paint brushes* Wish I had Jesters lol.
Frilia Silverstring
Gnome Fighter, 188 posts
Fri 14 Apr 2023
at 21:16
  • msg #431

The Pub Crawl:  OOC

Lets see if I still remember Sand...

quote:
The big mechanical being dressed only with a red cloak and armed with a round shield and spear came into town, a metallic owl perched on its shoulder, followed by a mastiff sized artificial beetle with massive sharp looking mandible. "Sand is sorry, Sand seems to have wandered in wrong story. Can someone direct Sand to Vertigo?"

This message was last edited by the player at 21:19, Fri 14 Apr 2023.
Yawgo
Tortle Druid, 18 posts
Big Shell, Small Size
Spore Druid
Mon 17 Apr 2023
at 14:29
  • msg #432

Re: The Pub Crawl:  OOC

Frilia Silverstring:
Lets see if I still remember Sand...

quote:
The big mechanical being dressed only with a red cloak and armed with a round shield and spear came into town, a metallic owl perched on its shoulder, followed by a mastiff sized artificial beetle with massive sharp looking mandible. "Sand is sorry, Sand seems to have wandered in wrong story. Can someone direct Sand to Vertigo?"

I think Yawgo would be upset :) Why have a artifical beetle? Why not a real one? Owl isn't right. Needs to have blood. Oh the conversations would be so priceless.

No like living? Yawgo sad. He might start talking like Sand thinking its 'right'
This message was last edited by the player at 14:31, Mon 17 Apr 2023.
Frilia Silverstring
Gnome Fighter, 189 posts
Tue 18 Apr 2023
at 02:09
  • msg #433

Re: The Pub Crawl:  OOC

In reply to Yawgo (msg # 432):

Sand is an battle smith artificer with magic initiate wizard, the beetle is his steel defender and the owl his familiar... but I went for the mechanical appearance lol

Since that game is pretty much dead, maybe Chad would allow me to play two chars in this game? lol
This message was last edited by the player at 02:11, Tue 18 Apr 2023.
Dungeon Master
GM, 407 posts
Tue 18 Apr 2023
at 02:40
  • msg #434

Re: The Pub Crawl:  OOC

Yeah, nah.
Yawgo
Tortle Druid, 20 posts
Big Shell, Small Size
Spore Druid
Tue 18 Apr 2023
at 02:43
  • msg #435

Re: The Pub Crawl:  OOC

Dungeon Master:
Yeah, nah.

But but but you will allow a wise, smart, yoda young tortle of the spore that insists on paying everyone with paintings? Oh the shame! The shame!

:)
Rain
Tabaxi Ranger, 206 posts
Tue 18 Apr 2023
at 05:48
  • msg #436

Re: The Pub Crawl:  OOC

Hey guys.

For those who don't know, i have been unwell with a bad bout of flu and then Pharyngitis. 3 weeks and i'm almost 100%. The next 24 hours will be updating my rpol posts
Hannah Demsersk
Human Paladin, 123 posts
Tue 18 Apr 2023
at 06:58
  • msg #437

Re: The Pub Crawl:  OOC

Damn, everybody's getting sick rn. I just recovered from Covid.

Fortunately. not much is going on lately. The new players are just being brought into the story
Lucidity Vederran
player, 1 post
Human
Rogue/Inquisitive
Tue 18 Apr 2023
at 10:53
  • msg #438

Re: The Pub Crawl:  OOC

Hope you guys are feeling better.  No fun being sick.
Rain
Tabaxi Ranger, 207 posts
Tue 18 Apr 2023
at 10:58
  • msg #439

Re: The Pub Crawl:  OOC

i am....thankfully
Frilia Silverstring
Gnome Fighter, 190 posts
Tue 18 Apr 2023
at 11:00
  • msg #440

Re: The Pub Crawl:  OOC

Rain:
i am....thankfully


Glad you feel better, couz, we missed you
Yawgo
Tortle Druid, 22 posts
Big Shell, Small Size
Spore Druid
Tue 18 Apr 2023
at 13:22
  • msg #441

Re: The Pub Crawl:  OOC

What is worse then a small tortle that is angry at the world?

A excited small tortle! lol
Lucidity Vederran
player, 2 posts
Human
Rogue/Inquisitive
Tue 18 Apr 2023
at 13:36
  • msg #442

Re: The Pub Crawl:  OOC

A small tortle with a nuclear warhead and a can of red bull.
Yawgo
Tortle Druid, 23 posts
Big Shell, Small Size
Spore Druid
Tue 18 Apr 2023
at 13:45
  • msg #443

Re: The Pub Crawl:  OOC

Yawgo
Tortle Druid, 24 posts
Big Shell, Small Size
Spore Druid
Tue 18 Apr 2023
at 16:55
  • msg #444

Re: The Pub Crawl:  OOC

I got a interesting question. What is a odd 5e race for a Life Domain Cleric? Not normal. Odd. So no humans and I don't play them fools (normally that is lol!)
Dungeon Master
GM, 409 posts
Tue 18 Apr 2023
at 17:17
  • msg #445

Re: The Pub Crawl:  OOC

Kenku, without a doubt.
Frilia Silverstring
Gnome Fighter, 191 posts
Tue 18 Apr 2023
at 17:22
  • msg #446

Re: The Pub Crawl:  OOC

Yawgo:
I got a interesting question. What is a odd 5e race for a Life Domain Cleric? Not normal. Odd. So no humans and I don't play them fools (normally that is lol!)


How about a revenant? An undead life cleric would be hilariously ironic.

Maybe I should copyright that idea lol
Dungeon Master
GM, 410 posts
Tue 18 Apr 2023
at 17:24
  • msg #447

Re: The Pub Crawl:  OOC

I think he was asking about the official races, which a revenant is not.  That would be a homebrew, which opens up everything.
Frilia Silverstring
Gnome Fighter, 192 posts
Tue 18 Apr 2023
at 17:28
  • msg #448

The Pub Crawl:  OOC

In reply to Dungeon Master (msg # 447):

You are right, I was thinking of a reborn lineage

https://www.dndbeyond.com/sour...cter-creation#Reborn

Same concept, that one is undead too

Reborn owling life cleric.... my next char lol
This message was last edited by the player at 17:30, Tue 18 Apr 2023.
Yawgo
Tortle Druid, 25 posts
Big Shell, Small Size
Spore Druid
Tue 18 Apr 2023
at 17:32
  • msg #449

Re: The Pub Crawl:  OOC

I looked up Revanant and man it is broken beyond belief lol! Vax before he 'died' was a Revanant. I got to watch Camp 3 tonight.

Why a Kenku Cleric?

The game I want to join has a kenku wizard and a gnome rogue. I hope the DM figured out the kenku. They cannot speak :) I play a oriental adventures one. It got tough doing it on here.
This message was last edited by the player at 17:46, Tue 18 Apr 2023.
Kursak
Half-Goliath Cleric, 185 posts
AC 18 HP 18/18 THP 9
Vigilant Blessing: Hannah
Tue 18 Apr 2023
at 20:46
  • msg #450

The Pub Crawl:  OOC

Yawgo:
I got a interesting question. What is a odd 5e race for a Life Domain Cleric? Not normal. Odd. So no humans and I don't play them fools (normally that is lol!)

Lizardfolk - The dead are natural resources for tools, why bother preserving life?

Many of the more monstrous races, really. Orcs, Goblins, Kobolds, etc.

Genasi, Gith, Changelings.
Yawgo
Tortle Druid, 26 posts
Big Shell, Small Size
Spore Druid
Tue 18 Apr 2023
at 20:56
  • msg #451

The Pub Crawl:  OOC

I pondered Loxodan. Though a goblin cleric could be fun.
Kursak
Half-Goliath Cleric, 186 posts
AC 18 HP 18/18 THP 9
Vigilant Blessing: Hannah
Tue 18 Apr 2023
at 21:04
  • msg #452

The Pub Crawl:  OOC

Loxodan is a MtG race, primarily from White, which is the color associated with life.
Yawgo
Tortle Druid, 27 posts
Big Shell, Small Size
Spore Druid
Tue 18 Apr 2023
at 21:06
  • msg #453

The Pub Crawl:  OOC

5e race too :)

I should make a pacifist cleric haha.
Kursak
Half-Goliath Cleric, 187 posts
AC 18 HP 18/18 THP 9
Vigilant Blessing: Hannah
Tue 18 Apr 2023
at 21:07
  • msg #454

The Pub Crawl:  OOC

Yawgo:
5e race too :)

I should make a pacifist cleric haha.

Yes, but a 5E race in an MtG setting which still follows the same principles. If you want a race not associated with life, then Loxo ain't it.
Yawgo
Tortle Druid, 28 posts
Big Shell, Small Size
Spore Druid
Tue 18 Apr 2023
at 21:11
  • msg #455

Re: The Pub Crawl:  OOC

Kursak:
Yawgo:
I got a interesting question. What is a odd 5e race for a Life Domain Cleric? Not normal. Odd. So no humans and I don't play them fools (normally that is lol!)

Lizardfolk - The dead are natural resources for tools, why bother preserving life?

Many of the more monstrous races, really. Orcs, Goblins, Kobolds, etc.

Genasi, Gith, Changelings.


Life. Domain. Cleric.

*grins*
Kursak
Half-Goliath Cleric, 188 posts
AC 18 HP 18/18 THP 9
Vigilant Blessing: Hannah
Tue 18 Apr 2023
at 22:33
  • msg #456

The Pub Crawl:  OOC

So you don't care that the race is at odds with Life, you care that the race is odd compared to a human?

MtG races, Spelljammer races, and Harengon. Ooze people, rabbit people, four-armed bugs, and hippo people.
Dungeon Master
GM, 411 posts
Wed 19 Apr 2023
at 01:44
  • msg #457

Re: The Pub Crawl:  OOC

Yawgo:
Why a Kenku Cleric?


Precisely because they cannot speak.  It's actually more than they cannot speak; Kenku have no concept of language.  So no spells with verbal components, ever.
Frilia Silverstring
Gnome Fighter, 193 posts
Wed 19 Apr 2023
at 02:19
  • msg #458

Re: The Pub Crawl:  OOC

In reply to Dungeon Master (msg # 457):

they have changed that in monsters of the multiverse, kenku actually speak now

I do need to try a plasmoid one day... monk maybe? doesn't need armor or weapon, so it can go around naked and go everywhere lol
Yawgo
Tortle Druid, 30 posts
Big Shell, Small Size
Spore Druid
Wed 19 Apr 2023
at 02:31
  • msg #459

Re: The Pub Crawl:  OOC

I think we went to the '2nd inn' not the 1st, Lynn :)

NVM we went to the champion's inn :) Unbroken Tusk. Got sidetracked.
This message was last edited by the player at 02:34, Wed 19 Apr 2023.
Yawgo
Tortle Druid, 32 posts
Big Shell, Small Size
Spore Druid
Wed 19 Apr 2023
at 03:28
  • msg #460

Re: The Pub Crawl:  OOC

I need a painter's cap and to speak in a French accent.


This message was last edited by the player at 03:31, Wed 19 Apr 2023.
Dungeon Master
GM, 414 posts
Wed 19 Apr 2023
at 03:30
  • msg #461

Re: The Pub Crawl:  OOC

Frilia Silverstring:
they have changed that in monsters of the multiverse, kenku actually speak now


You mean they neutered every race to that every race is exactly like every other race and there are no real differences between them all?

I exaggerate for effect, but that's how it feels.  They're continuing to do so.  Half-Elves and Half-Orcs are gone in the next iteration.  Sure, you can still play them, but just choose the racial traits of one of your full-blooded parents, and go that way.

Ugh.  I don't like being this way.  I just feel like the differences between the races were something to be celebrated, not obstacles to be overcome, and these changes feel like they're trying to "remove obstacles" so more people can play the race they want without any disadvantages.
Rain
Tabaxi Ranger, 208 posts
Wed 19 Apr 2023
at 09:32
  • msg #462

Re: The Pub Crawl:  OOC

i agree with you chad - the difference in the half races made them more unique. having them 'just pick' from the races takes the fun out of it
Frilia Silverstring
Gnome Fighter, 194 posts
Wed 19 Apr 2023
at 12:47
  • msg #463

Re: The Pub Crawl:  OOC

I don't agree with the changes to the races either, I was just pointing that MotM removed that trait from Kenkus, and did a lot on neutering on the other races, Kobolds, Guityanky (spelling), Genasi, Yuan-ti, and that's only the ones I remember, are all bad now compared to the original versions.
Yawgo
Tortle Druid, 33 posts
Big Shell, Small Size
Spore Druid
Wed 19 Apr 2023
at 12:55
  • msg #464

Re: The Pub Crawl:  OOC

Kursak:
So you don't care that the race is at odds with Life, you care that the race is odd compared to a human?

MtG races, Spelljammer races, and Harengon. Ooze people, rabbit people, four-armed bugs, and hippo people.

I'd prefer Life Domain but doesn't have to be. Lox seems to stick out but the DM stated 'the odder race the better' lol. Thri-Kreen and Giff?

Like: Lox Life Cleric
Dhampir Grave Cleric
Changeling Trickery Cleric
ect.
This message was last edited by the player at 13:06, Wed 19 Apr 2023.
Lucidity Vederran
player, 3 posts
Human
Rogue/Inquisitive
Wed 19 Apr 2023
at 13:07
  • msg #465

Re: The Pub Crawl:  OOC

Why not make the character a British soccer ... sorry, football hooligan?  Cleric.  Life domain.  Actually anything.  Then race won't even matter.
Yawgo
Tortle Druid, 34 posts
Big Shell, Small Size
Spore Druid
Wed 19 Apr 2023
at 18:51
  • msg #466

Re: The Pub Crawl:  OOC

Haha. Loxodan Barbarian.

Weapon in use?
Trunk.

Seriously?
Trunk.

Warlock?
Yes. Eldtrich Trunk Blasts.

Wizard or Sorcerer?
Magic Trunk Missiles.

Bard?
Trumpet Trunk
This message was last edited by the player at 18:54, Wed 19 Apr 2023.
Lucidity Vederran
player, 4 posts
Human
Rogue/Inquisitive
Wed 19 Apr 2023
at 20:49
  • msg #467

Re: The Pub Crawl:  OOC

Trunk?  That's Boot to you, Barbarian.
Yawgo
Tortle Druid, 35 posts
Big Shell, Small Size
Spore Druid
Wed 19 Apr 2023
at 20:54
  • msg #468

Re: The Pub Crawl:  OOC

Lucidity Vederran:
Trunk?  That's Boot to you, Barbarian.
l
Huh what....? Its a mouse catcher. A blowgun. Snorkle.
Lucidity Vederran
player, 5 posts
Human
Rogue/Inquisitive
Wed 19 Apr 2023
at 21:38
  • msg #469

Re: The Pub Crawl:  OOC

USAsians say Truck.  Brits say Boot.  Play on words.
This message was last edited by the player at 21:38, Wed 19 Apr 2023.
Dungeon Master
GM, 415 posts
Wed 19 Apr 2023
at 23:34
  • msg #470

Re: The Pub Crawl:  OOC

Us Aussies say Boot as well... but never in reference to an elephant (or a luxodon).
Frilia Silverstring
Gnome Fighter, 195 posts
Thu 20 Apr 2023
at 02:53
  • msg #471

Re: The Pub Crawl:  OOC

We say trunk in Canada, but I've heard boot too
Yawgo
Tortle Druid, 37 posts
Big Shell, Small Size
Spore Druid
Thu 20 Apr 2023
at 13:55
  • msg #472

Re: The Pub Crawl:  OOC

Hi. My name is Yawgo. I'll be your healer tonight. Whats your name?

(the horizonback doesn't look at him)

Not very nice lol!

OMG. Its a tortose-shell graveyard haha.
Dungeon Master
GM, 417 posts
Thu 20 Apr 2023
at 16:45
  • msg #473

Re: The Pub Crawl:  OOC

So, am I correct in assuming Yawgo is intending to sleep inside his shell?
Yawgo
Tortle Druid, 38 posts
Big Shell, Small Size
Spore Druid
Thu 20 Apr 2023
at 16:52
  • msg #474

Re: The Pub Crawl:  OOC

If that is indeed possible and I can get a full nights rest-sure. Since there are no beds available and he's a tortle, sleeping in his shell makes sense no? Not sure if Tortles sleep in their shell or just normal.
Dungeon Master
GM, 418 posts
Thu 20 Apr 2023
at 17:39
  • msg #475

Re: The Pub Crawl:  OOC

You can certainly try... where will you be physically whilest trying to sleep this way?  In the common room, outside in the street, in a field?
Yawgo
Tortle Druid, 39 posts
Big Shell, Small Size
Spore Druid
Thu 20 Apr 2023
at 17:45
  • msg #476

Re: The Pub Crawl:  OOC

With Lynn.

Not like that. No. No. No.

If she pays for the room (or I will), once she is all done I can walk in, lock the door and shell it if she allows me that is. Doing it on the common room can be bad.

I'll be in baggage claim lmoao.

Its like Forest Gump. Garlic Tortoise, Fried Tortose, Tortose Hash....

Goblin hands Yawgo some strew. He eats it up and looks at the cook "Whats this?" The goblin answers "TOrtle Stew! Cannibal!"
This message was last edited by the player at 17:47, Thu 20 Apr 2023.
Lucidity Vederran
player, 6 posts
Human
Rogue/Inquisitive
Thu 20 Apr 2023
at 18:23
  • msg #477

Re: The Pub Crawl:  OOC

Would a male tortle have the same kind of privacy issues with a human female?  If not, why not sleep in the bed?  Unless it's too small.  Do tortles even like beds?

Othewise, an interesting exploration of sexuality and modesty taboos in the fantasy world.
Yawgo
Tortle Druid, 40 posts
Big Shell, Small Size
Spore Druid
Thu 20 Apr 2023
at 18:33
  • msg #478

Re: The Pub Crawl:  OOC

I truly doubt it and we just met for starters. I don't think that will happen. Hard to tell which way Yawgo goes if even if he does.

Turtles sleep in their shells. Tortles can sleep in beds. I just view it as Yawgo being a druid is just used to shelling it up whenever he gets tired.

Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles. I think Raph liked April but that is just too....wierd. Totally different well yeah. No.
Lucidity Vederran
player, 7 posts
Human
Rogue/Inquisitive
Thu 20 Apr 2023
at 21:37
  • msg #479

Re: The Pub Crawl:  OOC

How old is Yawgo, if you don't mind me asking?  And how acquainted is with Yawgo with civilized norms?  Especially being a druid, and, I assume, out in the wilds more than not.  That's something I've played with in the past, and it makes for some interesting interactions.  Things like body consciousness.

I mean, what's the thing with clothing?  Animals don't wear clothing.  There are, of course, certain advantages to wearing clothing.  Protection.  And animals most certainly seem to use color for certain mating and dominance purposes.  But what's the point in covering, say, specifically genitalia?
Kursak
Half-Goliath Cleric, 189 posts
AC 18 HP 18/18 THP 9
Vigilant Blessing: Hannah
Thu 20 Apr 2023
at 21:47
  • msg #480

Re: The Pub Crawl:  OOC

Most male animals do have some form of covering over their genitals. The testes dangle on most land-mammals, but the rest is protected.
Lucidity Vederran
player, 8 posts
Human
Rogue/Inquisitive
Thu 20 Apr 2023
at 23:45
  • msg #481

Re: The Pub Crawl:  OOC

Yeah.  I bet there are a lot of blood vessels in that sucker.  Probably want to keep it warm, that the very least.
Dungeon Master
GM, 419 posts
Thu 20 Apr 2023
at 23:59
  • msg #482

Re: The Pub Crawl:  OOC

Let's remember some basics here.  Yawgo is a tortle, not a turtle.  Asking him questions which are based on the resemblance is probably the same as asking whether humans shit in their hands and fling feces at potential predators.  Unlike turtles, there's an intelligent sentient mind inside the body of a tortle.  I would assume some standards of human-centric cultural behaviours as well.  Clothes, a pack, drinking out of cups and tankards, eating with utensils, that sort of thing.

In-character Yawgo, you're probably going to get a bunch of the weird questions, from NPCs as well as PCs  Tortles are weird, and people are curious.  React however you like.

Let's bring some of the normalities to the front.  @Yawgo can you give us a description of your character?  Clothing, carried equipment -- you know the classic "Yawgo walks in the door, and this is what you see..." question.
Lucidity Vederran
player, 9 posts
Human
Rogue/Inquisitive
Fri 21 Apr 2023
at 10:53
  • msg #483

Re: The Pub Crawl:  OOC

BTW, I apologize if I made anyone uncomfortable.  Sorry.
Hannah Demsersk
Human Paladin, 124 posts
Fri 21 Apr 2023
at 13:33
  • msg #484

Re: The Pub Crawl:  OOC

i think its interesting to explore how different races would react to different societal constructs
Lucidity Vederran
player, 10 posts
Human
Rogue/Inquisitive
Fri 21 Apr 2023
at 15:23
  • msg #485

Re: The Pub Crawl:  OOC

One thing that I've found interesting to explore is the differences in races and age.  I mean, a young elf, for example, is about the same age as an old human.  But they've lived an equal number of years.  Had an equal amount of experience.

So, how do you play a youth with 80 years of maturity?  That's something I haven't quite put my finger on yet.
Kursak
Half-Goliath Cleric, 190 posts
AC 18 HP 18/18 THP 9
Vigilant Blessing: Hannah
Fri 21 Apr 2023
at 16:21
  • msg #486

Re: The Pub Crawl:  OOC

You play it the same way you would a human. You're no less developed mentally, physically, or emotionally, you simply have the body of a 20 year old. You still have that youthful drive though, that sense of centuries worth of life left to live, and that ignorant assumption of immortality. That's what your elders look at and why they still call you a child after so many years. It's dual perspective rather than a reality.
Lucidity Vederran
player, 11 posts
Human
Rogue/Inquisitive
Fri 21 Apr 2023
at 17:44
  • msg #487

Re: The Pub Crawl:  OOC

Do you not, however, also have, say, 80 years of pain of loss?  Relationships that have not worked?  Friends that have died?  Tragedies witnessed.  These things drive learning.  You develop coping mechanisms to help you get through.  It's hard for me to imagine a mental and emotional state not being affected by that.  Some people develop in such a way that others would say they have gained wisdom.  Other people develop in such a way that others would say they have become hard-bitten.

Or, maybe, the longer lived races don't learn from these things.  God knows, I can see some humans at 80 not having learned.
Hannah Demsersk
Human Paladin, 125 posts
Sat 22 Apr 2023
at 07:22
  • msg #488

Re: The Pub Crawl:  OOC

I think it makes sense. That's why elves are viewed as wise. They've had all that experience. Bu there's still a lot to learn, and centuries difference between young and old elves. Young elves know a lot, old elves know a lot. That's why an old elf would call an 80 year old "young" elf a child
Frilia Silverstring
Gnome Fighter, 196 posts
Sat 22 Apr 2023
at 16:51
  • msg #489

Re: The Pub Crawl:  OOC

In reply to Lucidity Vederran (msg # 487):

I think RA Salvatore put the finger on that long lived races vs short lived races conundrum when he had an older female elf teach Dritzz how elves celebrate the life they can have with short lived races, enjoy it to the fullest, then when they are dead, "starting" a new life with new relationships, instead on brooding on what they have lost
Lucidity Vederran
player, 12 posts
Human
Rogue/Inquisitive
Sat 22 Apr 2023
at 23:31
  • msg #490

Re: The Pub Crawl:  OOC

I've never read any RA Salvatore.  But you've piqued my interest.

Your mention also brings to mind the Sandman character Hob Gaddling.  Have you ever read the Sandman comics?  Hob Gaddling is the guy who Death doesn't take.  If you have read these, then do you see any parallels?
Dungeon Master
GM, 421 posts
Sun 23 Apr 2023
at 08:36
  • msg #491

Re: The Pub Crawl:  OOC

Weis and Hickman had a different take on it.  Rather than continual resetting of lives and relationships, it manifests as a reluctance to change.

Elves and Dwarves are slower to change -- because they don't have to drive change themselves.  Live long enough, and the problems sort themselves out.  The warlord over in the village on the edge of the forest is causing trouble?  He'll be gone in 20 years, which might be like a month to the perceptions of elves.  Is the warlord an elf?  That's more of a concern, but he might move at the slower timescale as well...

Humans change quickly, according to elves.  They seem mercurial, and sometimes hard to fathom as a result.
Frilia Silverstring
Gnome Fighter, 197 posts
Sun 23 Apr 2023
at 18:24
  • msg #492

Re: The Pub Crawl:  OOC

In reply to Lucidity Vederran (msg # 490):

I know a bit about Sandman but never read it, I'm more of a Marvel comics reader myself. Haven't read one in a while too, but the Dolorama started having cheap collected comics so I buy some when there is something that catches my eye. I still have all the ones I bought in the 90's! Those guys have moved a lot with me!
Lucidity Vederran
player, 13 posts
Human
Rogue/Inquisitive
Mon 24 Apr 2023
at 13:55
  • msg #493

Re: The Pub Crawl:  OOC

DC is definitely worth reading for the special writers that they've managed to bring in over the years.  Neil Gaiman's Sandman being one of them.  I also like a lot of the work that Alan Moore's done.

I used to follow Marvel in the Silver Age.  X-Men.  Silver Surfer.  Fantastic Four.  I've gotten so out of touch with it since then, though.  All sorts of stuff that I've never heard of.
Yawgo
Tortle Druid, 44 posts
Big Shell, Small Size
Spore Druid
Mon 24 Apr 2023
at 19:08
  • msg #494

Re: The Pub Crawl:  OOC

I always wanted to play a character in which whenever he paints (or draws) something it comes to life. Thought it would be really neat.
Kursak
Half-Goliath Cleric, 191 posts
AC 18 HP 18/18 THP 9
Vigilant Blessing: Hannah
Mon 24 Apr 2023
at 19:57
  • msg #495

Re: The Pub Crawl:  OOC

Yawgo:
I always wanted to play a character in which whenever he paints (or draws) something it comes to life. Thought it would be really neat.

You could flavor almost any spell caster to have their spells work like that. What you do verbally or somatically, and how your spell visually looks are all things that you can customize as the player to make them your own. You cast Magic Missile, but you did so by drawing three pineapples hanging from a tree, and then three pineapples fly at your target and hit it.
Yawgo
Tortle Druid, 45 posts
Big Shell, Small Size
Spore Druid
Mon 24 Apr 2023
at 20:04
  • msg #496

Re: The Pub Crawl:  OOC

Kursak:
Yawgo:
I always wanted to play a character in which whenever he paints (or draws) something it comes to life. Thought it would be really neat.

You could flavor almost any spell caster to have their spells work like that. What you do verbally or somatically, and how your spell visually looks are all things that you can customize as the player to make them your own. You cast Magic Missile, but you did so by drawing three pineapples hanging from a tree, and then three pineapples fly at your target and hit it.

Thats not what I ment. Like draw a apple, a apple appears. Draw a sword, a sword appears. Like draw a cow, a cow appears but might be dead. Maybe can only draw non-living. Drawback is if he has nothing to draw on/paint on he's pretty useless. Could make for a cool character or a BBEG too.
Kursak
Half-Goliath Cleric, 192 posts
AC 18 HP 18/18 THP 9
Vigilant Blessing: Hannah
Mon 24 Apr 2023
at 20:11
  • msg #497

Re: The Pub Crawl:  OOC

I get what you meant, that's just not a thing that exists in strictly that format, without creating a custom (sub)class to do so. However, there is a magic item that does just that. It's a set of paints that whatever you paint becomes real. It has a limitation on the gold value of what you paint, but you can paint a door on a wall and a door appears. Paint an apple, get an apple. Paint miniature cow, get a mini-cow. https://www.dndbeyond.com/magi...s-marvelous-pigments

As a character concept, that would be absolutely busted without restrictions put on it (let me paint raw diamonds and bars of gold/platinum, then buy all the magic items in the world). But with limitations, reflavoring spells still does what you're talking about, it just limits it more directly than you may want. Conjure Food will let you create that apple you painted. Fabrication will let you create the sword. Various summoning spells will let you create the cow (living or unliving). You could reach the point of whatever you paint becomes real, but you would have to unlock all of the many spells to get you there.
Yawgo
Tortle Druid, 46 posts
Big Shell, Small Size
Spore Druid
Mon 24 Apr 2023
at 20:24
  • msg #498

Re: The Pub Crawl:  OOC

Kursak:
I get what you meant, that's just not a thing that exists in strictly that format, without creating a custom (sub)class to do so. However, there is a magic item that does just that. It's a set of paints that whatever you paint becomes real. It has a limitation on the gold value of what you paint, but you can paint a door on a wall and a door appears. Paint an apple, get an apple. Paint miniature cow, get a mini-cow. https://www.dndbeyond.com/magi...s-marvelous-pigments

As a character concept, that would be absolutely busted without restrictions put on it (let me paint raw diamonds and bars of gold/platinum, then buy all the magic items in the world). But with limitations, reflavoring spells still does what you're talking about, it just limits it more directly than you may want. Conjure Food will let you create that apple you painted. Fabrication will let you create the sword. Various summoning spells will let you create the cow (living or unliving). You could reach the point of whatever you paint becomes real, but you would have to unlock all of the many spells to get you there.


Jester had a set of paints that were pretty fun to figure out how she would use them. Had some cool ideas too. And I know.Doesn't have to be a class. Maybe it would be some sort of magic item. Draw food. Looks good. But maybe comes out as wood. Everything made, comes out as wood. Balls? Wood. Metal chain? Nope. Comes out as wood. Sword? Yup. Wood. You'd also need time to make the drawings as well. They can take a lot of time to create them so they aren't useful in combat unless pre-drawn too. Use it like a scroll. Or isn't real-makes a illusion of it instead. Many ways t ofigure it out. Just thought it would be cool as a character idea. So yes you could draw a gold coin but there would be a weight difference as well. Specially with say a platimun bar. Possibly make it like a spellbook.

Or just have the Jester Paint and be done with it lol

https://www.dndbeyond.com/magi...8-marvelous-pigments
Marvelous Pigments.
This message was last edited by the player at 20:26, Mon 24 Apr 2023.
Lucidity Vederran
player, 14 posts
Human
Rogue/Inquisitive
Mon 24 Apr 2023
at 20:59
  • msg #499

Re: The Pub Crawl:  OOC

I don't know about useless.  I mean, do you need a perfect canvas to draw?  Draw on a rock.  And, even when you're not drawing things that you can use in game, sounds like a fun RP thing to do.

This reminds me of the children's picture book, Harold and the Purple Crayon.  Always loved that book.
Yawgo
Tortle Druid, 47 posts
Big Shell, Small Size
Spore Druid
Mon 24 Apr 2023
at 21:04
  • msg #500

Re: The Pub Crawl:  OOC

Not sure where the useless part got brought up? Drawing on a rock can be tough. Yet depends on what you draw too. Heck if you got the right materials you can draw on a wall.

I almost made a Goblin Wizard. Hates reading so it draws in the spell book. Perfect.
Kursak
Half-Goliath Cleric, 193 posts
AC 18 HP 18/18 THP 9
Vigilant Blessing: Hannah
Mon 24 Apr 2023
at 21:19
  • msg #501

Re: The Pub Crawl:  OOC

Yawgo:
Drawback is if he has nothing to draw on/paint on he's pretty useless.

Yawgo
Tortle Druid, 48 posts
Big Shell, Small Size
Spore Druid
Mon 24 Apr 2023
at 21:27
  • msg #502

Re: The Pub Crawl:  OOC

Kursak:
Yawgo:
Drawback is if he has nothing to draw on/paint on he's pretty useless.

Course if he's blind be hard to paint as well. I think it would be a useful trick.

Or say a rogue with the Marvelous Pigments. Need a door? Got it. Man a locked safe.

Not anymore.
Lucidity Vederran
player, 15 posts
Human
Rogue/Inquisitive
Mon 24 Apr 2023
at 22:26
  • msg #503

Re: The Pub Crawl:  OOC

Yawgo:
Kursak:
Yawgo:
Drawback is if he has nothing to draw on/paint on he's pretty useless.

Course if he's blind be hard to paint as well. I think it would be a useful trick.

Or say a rogue with the Marvelous Pigments. Need a door? Got it. Man a locked safe.

Not anymore.

Yeah.  That door thing is pretty powerful stuff.  Draw stairs and walk up a wall.  Arguably over powered.  But, that said, it also reminds me of those old Road Runner cartoons!  Where Willie Coyote would draw a tunnel in a wall, and Road Runner would run through it.  Oh man, that's a great gag.
Frilia Silverstring
Gnome Fighter, 198 posts
Mon 24 Apr 2023
at 22:26
  • msg #504

Re: The Pub Crawl:  OOC

My Warforged Artificer, Sand, had just acquired a set of those magical pigments as loot, but he never had a chance to use them before the game stopped.
Dungeon Master
GM, 425 posts
Tue 25 Apr 2023
at 01:01
  • msg #505

Re: The Pub Crawl:  OOC

Kursak:
Yawgo:
I always wanted to play a character in which whenever he paints (or draws) something it comes to life. Thought it would be really neat.

You could flavor almost any spell caster to have their spells work like that. What you do verbally or somatically, and how your spell visually looks are all things that you can customize as the player to make them your own. You cast Magic Missile, but you did so by drawing three pineapples hanging from a tree, and then three pineapples fly at your target and hit it.



For the record, I absolutely allow my spellcasters to be played this way (Like Gern Blanstone from Campaign One) -- you want to deliver a Chill Touch by way of a candle?  Great!

I see my job as the DM as one in which I help you tell the stories you want to tell -- within the frame of the larger story of the campaign.  It's challenging at times, and very rewarding -- but it's something I try to consider at all times, which is why I'm a little more permissible than some other DMs I know.

My other game (closed invite to a small group) is a little more restrictive, because I want to tell a more specific kind of story.
Yawgo
Tortle Druid, 49 posts
Big Shell, Small Size
Spore Druid
Tue 25 Apr 2023
at 14:15
  • msg #506

Re: The Pub Crawl:  OOC

Cure Light Wounds: Grabbing dirt and moss and rubbing it on the wound lol.
Yawgo
Tortle Druid, 50 posts
Big Shell, Small Size
Spore Druid
Wed 26 Apr 2023
at 13:01
  • msg #507

Re: The Pub Crawl:  OOC

Group: We all these interesting backstories.

Yawgo: I just want to see a Horzionback.

loL!
Hannah Demsersk
Human Paladin, 126 posts
Wed 26 Apr 2023
at 14:41
  • msg #508

Re: The Pub Crawl:  OOC

nothing wrong with simple. horizonbacks are pretty cool :)
Yawgo
Tortle Druid, 51 posts
Big Shell, Small Size
Spore Druid
Wed 26 Apr 2023
at 14:48
  • msg #509

Re: The Pub Crawl:  OOC

There's more to it then seeing them. Got a backhistory but yeah that's Yawgo's main focus.

You know. Tortle. Druid. Horizonbacks. Protecting Horizonbacks which is pretty funny. The whole protect nature thing.
Lucidity Vederran
player, 17 posts
Human
Rogue/Inquisitive
Wed 26 Apr 2023
at 15:12
  • msg #510

Re: The Pub Crawl:  OOC

A lot of good potential to explore there.  From a possible kinship angle alone.  I mean, you mentioned cannibalisms earlier.  But, as a parallel, I know that there are many cultures that have no qualms eating monkey meat.  Or even chimpanzee meat.

What might be really fascinating would be to discover how Horizonbacks see you.  As a druid, do you have access to Speak with Animals yet?

Hmmm.  Just looked up the spell.  First level, right?  I'm not that familiar with 5e.
Lucidity Vederran
player, 18 posts
Human
Rogue/Inquisitive
Wed 26 Apr 2023
at 15:21
  • msg #511

Re: The Pub Crawl:  OOC

BTW, please tell me if some of the ideas that I bring up make you feel uncomfortable.  I would very much hate to make anyone feel that way.  I will cease them immediately.
Yawgo
Tortle Druid, 52 posts
Big Shell, Small Size
Spore Druid
Wed 26 Apr 2023
at 15:39
  • msg #512

Re: The Pub Crawl:  OOC

Lucidity Vederran:
A lot of good potential to explore there.  From a possible kinship angle alone.  I mean, you mentioned cannibalisms earlier.  But, as a parallel, I know that there are many cultures that have no qualms eating monkey meat.  Or even chimpanzee meat.

What might be really fascinating would be to discover how Horizonbacks see you.  As a druid, do you have access to Speak with Animals yet?

Hmmm.  Just looked up the spell.  First level, right?  I'm not that familiar with 5e.

Oh with the turtle shells? on the roof? Its natural. Use what is given but if they killed them... Oh! The pain! The pain! Killed all of them! Such a horrible shame. I will blame the DM fully until it is completely....

*Hunters killed Yawgo*

Yawgo wouldn't do it. Well he might but he's mainly eats what he can forage. He's probably do it if there was no other way. Cannibalism is in reguards of eating your own kind (or close to it) not eating like monkey meat.

As for the spells, I believe I have it.
Yawgo
Tortle Druid, 53 posts
Big Shell, Small Size
Spore Druid
Wed 26 Apr 2023
at 17:22
  • msg #513

Re: The Pub Crawl:  OOC

I didn't realize some turtles eat meat. I thought they were herbivores.
Lucidity Vederran
player, 19 posts
Human
Rogue/Inquisitive
Wed 26 Apr 2023
at 18:20
  • msg #514

Re: The Pub Crawl:  OOC

Yeah.  One common feed for turtles is worms.
Yawgo
Tortle Druid, 55 posts
Big Shell, Small Size
Spore Druid
Wed 26 Apr 2023
at 18:25
  • msg #515

Re: The Pub Crawl:  OOC

Sour Patch Kids! Sour Patch Kids lol.

Yawgo: Starts eating worms

Everyone else: What are you doing?

Yawgo: Tastes great less filling? :)
Frilia Silverstring
Gnome Fighter, 199 posts
Wed 26 Apr 2023
at 23:55
  • msg #516

Re: The Pub Crawl:  OOC

A lot of sea turtles eat fishes, they can be surprisingly nimble underwater
Hannah Demsersk
Human Paladin, 127 posts
Thu 27 Apr 2023
at 15:55
  • msg #517

Re: The Pub Crawl:  OOC

I'm not following. Isn't Lucidity already in jigow?
Yawgo
Tortle Druid, 56 posts
Big Shell, Small Size
Spore Druid
Thu 27 Apr 2023
at 16:01
  • msg #518

Re: The Pub Crawl:  OOC

Hannah Demsersk:
I'm not following. Isn't Lucidity already in jigow?


I don't think she is.]

Might be easier to have seperate threads?
This message was last edited by the player at 16:03, Thu 27 Apr 2023.
Lucidity Vederran
player, 21 posts
Human
Rogue/Inquisitive
Thu 27 Apr 2023
at 16:23
  • msg #519

Re: The Pub Crawl:  OOC

No.  Lucy is still in Emon.  Working to get there.
Kursak
Half-Goliath Cleric, 194 posts
AC 18 HP 18/18 THP 9
Vigilant Blessing: Hannah
Thu 27 Apr 2023
at 19:03
  • msg #520

Re: The Pub Crawl:  OOC

Since my character has no knowledge of what the new group has been doing, I've read almost none of it so that I don't know anything either.
Dungeon Master
GM, 430 posts
Thu 27 Apr 2023
at 23:34
  • msg #521

Re: The Pub Crawl:  OOC

Yawgo:
Hannah Demsersk:
I'm not following. Isn't Lucidity already in jigow?


I don't think she is.]

Might be easier to have seperate threads?



There are generally two ways of running threads in long-running games on rpol.  You can separate by location / time (which I do in another game), or you can separate by narrative blocks.  Since this game is broken up into defined chapters, I've gone with the latter.  This is Chapter 3 -- so all activities in this chapter will be contained within this thread.
Hannah Demsersk
Human Paladin, 128 posts
Fri 28 Apr 2023
at 04:16
  • msg #522

Re: The Pub Crawl:  OOC

riiiiiiiight yes I get you
Yawgo
Tortle Druid, 57 posts
Big Shell, Small Size
Spore Druid
Fri 28 Apr 2023
at 19:02
  • msg #523

Re: The Pub Crawl:  OOC

*hides from the rogue* You will never catch the slow moving innocent (really) druid of Yawgo but his real name...

Magneto! Mwahahaha!
Frilia Silverstring
Gnome Fighter, 200 posts
Fri 28 Apr 2023
at 19:28
  • msg #524

Re: The Pub Crawl:  OOC

I'm getting Enola Holmes vibes from Lucidity XD
Yawgo
Tortle Druid, 58 posts
Big Shell, Small Size
Spore Druid
Fri 28 Apr 2023
at 19:30
  • msg #525

Re: The Pub Crawl:  OOC

Saw Shelock Holmes but not Enola Holmes. Want to see it but yes, got the detective down pat!

But you cannot beat: Jester and Nott, Private Eyes lol
Lucidity Vederran
player, 25 posts
Human
Rogue/Inquisitive
Fri 28 Apr 2023
at 20:26
  • msg #526

Re: The Pub Crawl:  OOC

Yes.  Very Holmes inspired.  Whether Enola or Sherlock (pick your version).  Many similarities.  Many references dropped.  A splash of Eberron.

Hopefully this works out.
Yawgo
Tortle Druid, 59 posts
Big Shell, Small Size
Spore Druid
Fri 28 Apr 2023
at 20:31
  • msg #527

Re: The Pub Crawl:  OOC

I think it'll get interesting with Yawgo and Luc.

Yawgo: Whats a investigator? How do you know what is true and what is false? Everyone is right in their own time.

Probably 'arrest Yawgo' because tired of dealing with his sincere questions :)
Frilia Silverstring
Gnome Fighter, 201 posts
Fri 28 Apr 2023
at 20:51
  • msg #528

Re: The Pub Crawl:  OOC

I'm catching your references, and it makes me smile. ;)

I am a fan of Sherlock Holmes and all the derivates from Conan Doyle's legacy. I even have the entire collection of the stories in the original 19th century format... its written so small, that's what prompted me to get my reading glasses lol

Can't wait for season 4, or is it 5, of Benedict Cumberback's Sherlock

I am wondering how Frilia will react to Lucidity though....
Yawgo
Tortle Druid, 60 posts
Big Shell, Small Size
Spore Druid
Fri 28 Apr 2023
at 20:57
  • msg #529

Re: The Pub Crawl:  OOC

Well Yawgo wouldn't fully understand.

Example:
Say a killer kills about 20 people. So investigators/bounty hunters are sent out. They are caught and killed. Cool. Yet that doesn't bring back the people they killed, the torment they inflicted, ect. Technically, by killing the killer, aren't you a killer yourself? You in some ways become him which is what he wants right? Yawgo understand everyone has to fight and kill but after you kill several times, it becomes a habit and cannot stop. Natural order but if there is a way around it...well. Its part of his past.

I saw Sherlock Homes with R.D.J. All of them, I liked them.
Lucidity Vederran
player, 26 posts
Human
Rogue/Inquisitive
Fri 28 Apr 2023
at 21:07
  • msg #530

Re: The Pub Crawl:  OOC

We'll see.  I don't know that I can promise more.  But, true and false are evidence based.  ?What is clearly observable.  Typically they are determined based on things that have already happened.  Unless Yawgo disputes the nature of time and present reality, I don't think we'll have a problem.  And even then, that would be less problematic than fascinating.

Besides, one is never only ever a single thing.  Lucy is an investigator (Though we prefer the term Inquisitive) she is a woman, she is a human, she is a music lover, she a daughter, she is a sister, she a potential heir to her mother's company.  An Emonian.  (That's the term for a citizen of Emon, right?)  She's a living, thinking being with an emotional landscape.

Many different planes on which to interact.
Lucidity Vederran
player, 27 posts
Human
Rogue/Inquisitive
Fri 28 Apr 2023
at 21:14
  • msg #531

Re: The Pub Crawl:  OOC

Frilia Silverstring:
I'm catching your references, and it makes me smile. ;)

I am a fan of Sherlock Holmes and all the derivates from Conan Doyle's legacy. I even have the entire collection of the stories in the original 19th century format... its written so small, that's what prompted me to get my reading glasses lol

Can't wait for season 4, or is it 5, of Benedict Cumberback's Sherlock

I am wondering how Frilia will react to Lucidity though....

I loved the Benedict Cumberbatch Sherlocks.  But, I think you'll be waiting a long time for any further series.  Shame that.  I even really got to like Elementary with Johnny Lee Miller and Lucy Liu.  Would have liked to have seen more Irene Adler in that.

And I envy you your book collection.  That sounds really cool.

As to Frilia and Lucidity, we'll see.  Frankly, I haven't read any of the previous threads, so I don't know what she's like.  But Holmes is only a starting place for Lucy.  She has to develop a life of her own, and that, I've found, comes with interaction with the other characters.
Yawgo
Tortle Druid, 61 posts
Big Shell, Small Size
Spore Druid
Fri 28 Apr 2023
at 21:17
  • msg #532

Re: The Pub Crawl:  OOC

Well Tawgo doesn't judge anyone. Got to be good and evil, neutral as well. If say Yawgo and you become friends, cool. If not, cool. He doesn't judge anyone. He's sorta like Rafiki or Ogway. He's curious, animal-lover, painter, advice giver (sometimes he gives it when he doesn't have to lol)

LOL He'd probably ask whats the present reality coming towards you or some such.

Yawg os extremely calm (well until he sees horzionbacks or nature in danger), wise and most of the time stands there watching. Def different them ne IRL!
Lucidity Vederran
player, 28 posts
Human
Rogue/Inquisitive
Fri 28 Apr 2023
at 21:21
  • msg #533

Re: The Pub Crawl:  OOC

Yawgo:
Well Yawgo wouldn't fully understand.

Example:
Say a killer kills about 20 people. So investigators/bounty hunters are sent out. They are caught and killed. Cool. Yet that doesn't bring back the people they killed, the torment they inflicted, ect. Technically, by killing the killer, aren't you a killer yourself? You in some ways become him which is what he wants right? Yawgo understand everyone has to fight and kill but after you kill several times, it becomes a habit and cannot stop. Natural order but if there is a way around it...well. Its part of his past.

I saw Sherlock Homes with R.D.J. All of them, I liked them.

Ah.  I think Lucy would agree with Yawgo there.  But she would point out that this is not a matter of investigation.  Investigation stops at finding the culprits and determining that it was in fact they who did the deed.  From that point on, you are dealing with Justice, and that is a matter out of the hands of the Inquisitive.  And a task far more difficult as well.

Yeah.  I liked the Robert Downey Jr stories as well.  Not your classic Holmes, but fun.  And Jude Law makes a good Watson to RDJ's Holmes.  Always down for a Guy Ritchie film anyway.  Loved his Man from Uncle.
Frilia Silverstring
Gnome Fighter, 202 posts
Fri 28 Apr 2023
at 21:27
  • msg #534

Re: The Pub Crawl:  OOC

Yawgo:
Yawgo: Whats a investigator? How do you know what is true and what is false? Everyone is right in their own time


Might as well say that a broken clock is right twice a day XD
Lucidity Vederran
player, 29 posts
Human
Rogue/Inquisitive
Fri 28 Apr 2023
at 21:36
  • msg #535

Re: The Pub Crawl:  OOC

But it is!!!

That's what makes the world such an interesting place.  ^_^

But, I guess that's semantic foolery.  Because what does "Right" mean anyway?  I mean, a broken clock displays the correct time twice a day doesn't sound half as fun.

On the other hand, the phrase could be pointing out that give a large enough data set, even something that is functionally useless in most cases can become useful.

Just not at a very likely moment.  Which, I suppose, is still little more than a bit of foolery.
Yawgo
Tortle Druid, 62 posts
Big Shell, Small Size
Spore Druid
Fri 28 Apr 2023
at 21:57
  • msg #536

Re: The Pub Crawl:  OOC

Yawgo is going to come across as being somewhat dumb but he doesn't understand 'land dwellers' logic. Plus he's a druid :)

(He's got a Int of 18 and Wis 20) lol
Lucidity Vederran
player, 30 posts
Human
Rogue/Inquisitive
Fri 28 Apr 2023
at 22:14
  • msg #537

Re: The Pub Crawl:  OOC

I never judge a character by their stats.

Oh, wait!
Kursak
Half-Goliath Cleric, 195 posts
AC 18 HP 18/18 THP 9
Vigilant Blessing: Hannah
Fri 28 Apr 2023
at 22:53
  • msg #538

Re: The Pub Crawl:  OOC

Lucidity Vederran:
A splash of Eberron.


Eberron? Well now I have to read it.
Yawgo
Tortle Druid, 63 posts
Big Shell, Small Size
Spore Druid
Fri 28 Apr 2023
at 23:01
  • msg #539

Re: The Pub Crawl:  OOC

I'll be your Watson lol!
Frilia Silverstring
Gnome Fighter, 203 posts
Sat 29 Apr 2023
at 00:00
  • msg #540

Re: The Pub Crawl:  OOC

Kursak:
Lucidity Vederran:
A splash of Eberron.


Eberron? Well now I have to read it.


Its a great read so far ;)
Lucidity Vederran
player, 31 posts
Human
Rogue/Inquisitive
Sat 29 Apr 2023
at 00:21
  • msg #541

Re: The Pub Crawl:  OOC

Not a lot of Eberron, I'm afraid.  Only a few names.

And thank you, Frilia.  High praise, indeed.

And, well, I hate to say it, but there is already a Watson.  Or, in this case, a Wattsdatter.  She's a Goliath cleric.
Frilia Silverstring
Gnome Fighter, 204 posts
Sat 29 Apr 2023
at 01:43
  • msg #542

Re: The Pub Crawl:  OOC

Go check the discord, Lucidity;)
Kursak
Half-Goliath Cleric, 196 posts
AC 18 HP 18/18 THP 9
Vigilant Blessing: Hannah
Sat 29 Apr 2023
at 01:44
  • msg #543

Re: The Pub Crawl:  OOC

A goliath cleric, you say? Feel free to introduce us.
Lucidity Vederran
player, 32 posts
Human
Rogue/Inquisitive
Sat 29 Apr 2023
at 02:14
  • msg #544

Re: The Pub Crawl:  OOC

Frilia Silverstring:
Go check the discord, Lucidity;)

Nice.

BTW, I don't do Discord very well.  I try to keep up with it.  Really.  Sorry.
Lucidity Vederran
player, 33 posts
Human
Rogue/Inquisitive
Sat 29 Apr 2023
at 02:15
  • msg #545

Re: The Pub Crawl:  OOC

Kursak:
A goliath cleric, you say? Feel free to introduce us.

She's married, btw.  To a nice woman named Mary.
Hannah Demsersk
Human Paladin, 129 posts
Sat 29 Apr 2023
at 05:06
  • msg #546

Re: The Pub Crawl:  OOC

quote:
From that point on, you are dealing with Justice, and that is a matter out of the hands of the Inquisitive.


Sounds like a job for a paladin of Bahamut, no? ;)
Lucidity Vederran
player, 34 posts
Human
Rogue/Inquisitive
Sat 29 Apr 2023
at 11:41
  • msg #547

Re: The Pub Crawl:  OOC

Hannah Demsersk:
quote:
From that point on, you are dealing with Justice, and that is a matter out of the hands of the Inquisitive.


Sounds like a job for a paladin of Bahamut, no? ;)

Indeed it is.  And better you than I.  A more difficult job I could not imagine.
Yawgo
Tortle Druid, 64 posts
Big Shell, Small Size
Spore Druid
Mon 1 May 2023
at 17:05
  • msg #548

Re: The Pub Crawl:  OOC

*pops his head out, looks around, slides it back inside to sleep*


Zzzzz.....
Lucidity Velderan
player, 45 posts
Human
Rogue/Inquisitive
Wed 3 May 2023
at 15:08
  • msg #549

Re: The Pub Crawl:  OOC

Apologies for the wall of text.

And, apologies as well for holding things up.  Thank you for putting up with it.  I never imagined I'd have the opportunity to lay out this much of the backstory.
Yawgo
Tortle Druid, 65 posts
Big Shell, Small Size
Spore Druid
Wed 3 May 2023
at 15:09
  • msg #550

Re: The Pub Crawl:  OOC

I'm pretty confused and dumbfounded. But okay lol.
Lucidity Velderan
player, 46 posts
Human
Rogue/Inquisitive
Wed 3 May 2023
at 16:03
  • msg #551

Re: The Pub Crawl:  OOC

That's okay.  It's okay to be confused and dumbfounded.  As long as you're not on the toilet at the same time.  Very bad for bowel movements.  And don't get me started in cases where you lose track of which way is up and which way is down.  Auch!
Frilia Silverstring
Gnome Fighter, 205 posts
Wed 3 May 2023
at 23:53
  • msg #552

Re: The Pub Crawl:  OOC

I'm having a blast reading the Holmes winks but yeah I want to play Frilia again ;)
Dungeon Master
GM, 442 posts
Thu 4 May 2023
at 00:52
  • msg #553

Re: The Pub Crawl:  OOC

Lucidity Velderan:
I never imagined I'd have the opportunity to lay out this much of the backstory.


I'm pretty big on backstories.  In my youth I'd create characters like wildfire, exploring different power combinations and skillsets -- you know, all the mechanics of character creation.  Many years later, I came across the character sheets -- and didn't recall a single detail of the characters; they were just numbers on a page.

So now when I create a character, I usually go back and start with the character's parents -- how did they meet, and how did that form/shape their relationship?  Because that has an influence on my character!  Then I move through stages of life.  Early childhood, the coming of age, and young adulthood.  I once created 60 years of a history for a 1st level dwarf, because that's how old he was when he started!

By the time I'm done now, I know who my character is on a deep intimate level, because I've lived through their life up to this point.  I find it makes me more invested in my character, and therefore in the game.

Someone here once joked that I could not only tell you my character's history, I could tell you when the first zit appeared on their face...  That's an exaggeration, but it does kind capture the theme.
Lucidity Velderan
player, 48 posts
Human
Rogue/Inquisitive
Thu 4 May 2023
at 13:04
  • msg #554

Re: The Pub Crawl:  OOC

Thanks, folks.  For your patience.
Yawgo
Tortle Druid, 66 posts
Big Shell, Small Size
Spore Druid
Thu 4 May 2023
at 13:06
  • msg #555

Re: The Pub Crawl:  OOC

I like Horizonbacks.

That is all. Really. All done. lol!
Lucidity Velderan
player, 49 posts
Human
Rogue/Inquisitive
Thu 4 May 2023
at 15:58
  • msg #556

Re: The Pub Crawl:  OOC

BTW, May the fourth be wif you.
Yawgo
Tortle Druid, 68 posts
Big Shell, Small Size
Spore Druid
Thu 4 May 2023
at 16:01
  • msg #557

Re: The Pub Crawl:  OOC


This message was undeleted by the player at 17:52, Thu 04 May 2023.
Dungeon Master
GM, 446 posts
Thu 4 May 2023
at 16:11
  • msg #558

Re: The Pub Crawl:  OOC

It's already the Revenge of the 5th here.

Yawgo
Tortle Druid, 73 posts
Big Shell, Small Size
Spore Druid
Tue 9 May 2023
at 15:50
  • msg #559

Re: The Pub Crawl:  OOC

This is going to be interesting with Yawgo....
Lucidity Velderan
player, 51 posts
Human
Rogue/Inquisitive
Tue 9 May 2023
at 16:05
  • msg #560

Re: The Pub Crawl:  OOC

"May you live in interesting times."

That's a saying attributed to an ancient Chinese curse.  (That's never truly been traced back to anything either ancient or Chinese.)
Yawgo
Tortle Druid, 74 posts
Big Shell, Small Size
Spore Druid
Tue 9 May 2023
at 18:40
  • msg #561

Re: The Pub Crawl:  OOC

Curious, wouldn't Maglynn be a Witch not a Warlock?
Lucidity Velderan
player, 52 posts
Human
Rogue/Inquisitive
Tue 9 May 2023
at 19:01
  • msg #562

Re: The Pub Crawl:  OOC

Some would say that's an antiquated take on things.  Now a days, woman are actors just as men are.  Stewardess is out.  Flight Attendant is in.  Men are nurses as well as women.  I've seen men who practice witchcraft referred to as witches.

I knew someone who once said that the dictionary is a popularity contest.  I can see that being true to a certain extent.  But I can't see that being true in it's absolute sense.  I guess it depends on what you and those around you are willing to accept and use.
Yawgo
Tortle Druid, 75 posts
Big Shell, Small Size
Spore Druid
Tue 9 May 2023
at 19:12
  • msg #563

Re: The Pub Crawl:  OOC

I don't really care honestly. Just stating if female warlock in the search bar, it comes up as a witch. If she wants to be called a Warlock, cool. I'm just used to the show Charmed when men are warlocks, woman were witches. Not like my view will be even taken seriously anyways. Its just a view. Everyone has them, and some get into conflict depending on how it is being use, when its being used, ect.

Female actors are actresses, actually.

If a male witch wants to be called a witch, okay. I know a man who is a nurse actually. Not trying to argue.

Just curious.

Really its up to Maglynn.
This message was last edited by the player at 19:16, Tue 09 May 2023.
Kursak
Half-Goliath Cleric, 198 posts
AC 18 HP 18/18 THP 9
Vigilant Blessing: Hannah
Tue 9 May 2023
at 19:28
  • msg #564

Re: The Pub Crawl:  OOC

Yawgo:
Curious, wouldn't Maglynn be a Witch not a Warlock?

Witch isn't a class in D&D, so no.
Yawgo
Tortle Druid, 76 posts
Big Shell, Small Size
Spore Druid
Tue 9 May 2023
at 19:38
  • msg #565

Re: The Pub Crawl:  OOC

Kursak:
Yawgo:
Curious, wouldn't Maglynn be a Witch not a Warlock?

Witch isn't a class in D&D, so no.

Same thing as a Warlock with a different name.

In DND, they have Warlocks. I've had friends who wants to be witches but use the class. Again, same thing. Pathfinder has a Witch class. 5e has a Warlock class. Its preference. Whenever I played a Witch I swapped it for Warlock if being a guy or witch if being a girl. Its whatever they want to be called. Just because you want to be called a specific thing doesn't mean it exists. Plus DND is a base thing that has several offshoots of it. It doesn't state Witches don't exist.

I was just curious is all.
Lucidity Velderan
player, 53 posts
Human
Rogue/Inquisitive
Tue 9 May 2023
at 19:41
  • msg #566

Re: The Pub Crawl:  OOC

Kursak:
Yawgo:
Curious, wouldn't Maglynn be a Witch not a Warlock?

Witch isn't a class in D&D, so no.

That's a good answer.  Much more definitive.
Yawgo
Tortle Druid, 77 posts
Big Shell, Small Size
Spore Druid
Tue 9 May 2023
at 19:45
  • msg #567

Re: The Pub Crawl:  OOC

Lucidity Velderan:
Kursak:
Yawgo:
Curious, wouldn't Maglynn be a Witch not a Warlock?

Witch isn't a class in D&D, so no.

That's a good answer.  Much more definitive.

Out of character, makes sense. But in character, its whay Mag chooses to be called. It has nothing to do with any class.
Lucidity Velderan
player, 54 posts
Human
Rogue/Inquisitive
Tue 9 May 2023
at 19:46
  • msg #568

Re: The Pub Crawl:  OOC

Yawgo:
I don't really care honestly. Just stating if female warlock in the search bar, it comes up as a witch. If she wants to be called a Warlock, cool. I'm just used to the show Charmed when men are warlocks, woman were witches. Not like my view will be even taken seriously anyways. Its just a view. Everyone has them, and some get into conflict depending on how it is being use, when its being used, ect.

Female actors are actresses, actually.

If a male witch wants to be called a witch, okay. I know a man who is a nurse actually. Not trying to argue.

Just curious.

Really its up to Maglynn.

Sorry, not trying to be argumentative.  But, sounds like you've pretty much come up with an answer to the question.
Lucidity Velderan
player, 55 posts
Human
Rogue/Inquisitive
Tue 9 May 2023
at 19:47
  • msg #569

Re: The Pub Crawl:  OOC

Yawgo:
Lucidity Velderan:
Kursak:
Yawgo:
Curious, wouldn't Maglynn be a Witch not a Warlock?

Witch isn't a class in D&D, so no.

That's a good answer.  Much more definitive.

Out of character, makes sense. But in character, its whay Mag chooses to be called. It has nothing to do with any class.

Um.  Not that I'm trying to speak for Kursk here, but I get the feeling his answer was somewhat tongue in cheek.
Yawgo
Tortle Druid, 78 posts
Big Shell, Small Size
Spore Druid
Tue 9 May 2023
at 19:57
  • msg #570

Re: The Pub Crawl:  OOC

Lucidity Velderan:
Yawgo:
Lucidity Velderan:
Kursak:
Yawgo:
Curious, wouldn't Maglynn be a Witch not a Warlock?

Witch isn't a class in D&D, so no.

That's a good answer.  Much more definitive.

Out of character, makes sense. But in character, its whay Mag chooses to be called. It has nothing to do with any class.

Um.  Not that I'm trying to speak for Kursk here, but I get the feeling his answer was somewhat tongue in cheek.

Just asking others opinions is all. Perhaps I shouldn't have said anything. And its hard to understand if he was being serious or not on a text-based RP board.
Lucidity Velderan
player, 56 posts
Human
Rogue/Inquisitive
Tue 9 May 2023
at 20:20
  • msg #571

Re: The Pub Crawl:  OOC

Personally, I think you hit it the nail on the head.  It's up to Maglynn.

Though, I can say that I've encountered DM's who would disagree.  <shrug>
Yawgo
Tortle Druid, 79 posts
Big Shell, Small Size
Spore Druid
Tue 9 May 2023
at 20:21
  • msg #572

Re: The Pub Crawl:  OOC

Alright alright change of subject :)

What's the oddest character you made in either DND or Pathfinder?
Lucidity Velderan
player, 57 posts
Human
Rogue/Inquisitive
Tue 9 May 2023
at 20:26
  • msg #573

Re: The Pub Crawl:  OOC

BTW, if you'd never said anything, then you'd never know.

Personally, from observing this discussion, I think you came to a conclusion by yourself.  But, I've observed that it sometimes takes bouncing your ideas off of others in order to get to a point in which you realize what it is that you think of something.  The act of posing a question makes you think about it more deeply.
Lucidity Velderan
player, 58 posts
Human
Rogue/Inquisitive
Tue 9 May 2023
at 20:27
  • msg #574

Re: The Pub Crawl:  OOC

Yawgo:
Alright alright change of subject :)

What's the oddest character you made in either DND or Pathfinder?

Depends on what you mean by "odd".
Yawgo
Tortle Druid, 80 posts
Big Shell, Small Size
Spore Druid
Tue 9 May 2023
at 20:32
  • msg #575

Re: The Pub Crawl:  OOC

Like for example in 5e:

Owlin Barbarian
Goblin Palaadin

Like that. I played in Pathfinder a goblin bard. They get a negative to charisma. Played a Goliath Rogue in DND 3.5.

Take a race and class that doesn't make sense and see if it can work out :)
Lucidity Velderan
player, 59 posts
Human
Rogue/Inquisitive
Tue 9 May 2023
at 21:06
  • msg #576

Re: The Pub Crawl:  OOC

Ah.  I guess I never got into the mechanics in that way.  I'm pretty much in this for the writing.  Though, I like the strategy aspects of the mechanics as well.

I once created a Gunslinger / Cleric.  As I understand that's odd.  I didn't think so at the time, though.
Yawgo
Tortle Druid, 81 posts
Big Shell, Small Size
Spore Druid
Tue 9 May 2023
at 21:12
  • msg #577

Re: The Pub Crawl:  OOC

There's the Holy Gun which is a Paladin/Gunslinger in Pathfinder. Got a tendency of when using a caster class, I just stay in the class.
Lucidity Velderan
player, 60 posts
Human
Rogue/Inquisitive
Tue 9 May 2023
at 21:50
  • msg #578

Re: The Pub Crawl:  OOC

I tend to shy away from Paladin.  There's something about class dictating behavior that doesn't sit right with me.
Lucidity Velderan
player, 61 posts
Human
Rogue/Inquisitive
Tue 9 May 2023
at 22:17
  • msg #579

Re: The Pub Crawl:  OOC

Then, there's always brussel sprouts.
Dungeon Master
GM, 451 posts
Tue 9 May 2023
at 22:18
  • msg #580

Re: The Pub Crawl:  OOC

I used to have that same objection.  Then I switched the equation around in my head.  It's less about the race/class combo, and more about the character -- and for Paladins I create a character that would act that way anyway...  It's less a dictation-by-class than it is a serendipitous union of character-and-class.

I recommend the excellent Dresden Files series of books.  There's a supporting character in it who's about as paladin-like as you can possibly get.  Michael Carpenter (on the nose a bit with the name?) wears chainmail (and kevlar) in downtown Chicago, wields a broadsword with a nail from The Crucifixion embedded in the hilt.  He's somehow still a great guy and an absolute rock for the main character (Harry Dresden, a wise-cracking not-on-the-ins-with-God wizard).
Kursak
Half-Goliath Cleric, 199 posts
AC 18 HP 18/18 THP 9
Vigilant Blessing: Hannah
Tue 9 May 2023
at 22:22
  • msg #581

The Pub Crawl:  OOC

Yawgo:
Out of character, makes sense. But in character, its whay Mag chooses to be called. It has nothing to do with any class.

I gotta pull us back to the previous topic for a second. There's nothing wrong with having a discussion about it, but it helps us all know what it is that we're discussing (and why). We are bringing up topics of conversation for the sake of conversing about them, are we not?

If we're talking OOC, then my previous statement would be my input - witches aren't a thing in D&D 5E, so they would be a Warlock.

Unless there's a thread that I can't see, Mag hasn't referred to themselves in-character as either a witch or a warlock. It's a tag in their RPOL bio, but as far as I can tell, that's the only place it has been mentioned. That's why I gave the OC answer I did, I don't see an IC reference to prompt the discussion. It seemed like arguing semantics was the point, but if not then that doesn't have to stop us from having the conversation from an in-world point of view.

I would say that we can't really use the traditional definitions of witch and warlock because their real-world definitions apply to things that don't exist. Wiccan practitioners aside, being a witch/warlock isn't possible because real world magic spells aren't real. In the game world, we have all kinds of magic-users that the words could be applied to in very broad terms. So before you use either term, you would need to assess and clarify the definitions and determine whether all magic users qualify or not, whether the terms should share a definition and vary only based on gender specification, or if they should refer to actual variations of the magic instead.

As with rectangles and squares, witch and warlock have similar definitions but with unique qualifiers. All squares are rectangles, as all warlocks are witches, but not all rectangles are squares as not all witches are warlocks. With witch/rectangle having the looser definition, it would make sense that any magic user could potentially qualify for being called a witch. Warlock/square being more strictly-defined might make it only apply to those who have access to magic via a relationship or deal with a higher power who grants the magic, including: cleric, druid, paladin, ranger, sorcerer, and warlock (class). The nature classes could go either way, depending on how the player defines their relationship to nature and whether they treat it as a force they tap into or a being who grants them access. Sorcerer is also in a grey area because they might not qualify for this definition of warlock because they didn't make the deal with a higher power themselves, but their parents/ancestors who infused the bloodlines could have.

Then the conversation really starts to pick up as you can then begin to consider cultural responses to them. Is being a witch a bad thing? In anti-magic cultures, it certainly would. Are there other cultures though, who might shun a witch, but embrace a warlock? Are there, or should there be, moral implications tied to either definition? There are all kinds of ripple topics you could delve into.


As for the new topic of conversation, I enjoy Paladins for their dictations in a similar way I do magic-users and spell components. Sure, it gives you some structure, but you still get to interpret how that structure applies to you, and it can be fuel for amping up your roleplay just as easily as it could be an annoyance or a hinderance.

Odd characters is a difficult for me, as I've made literal thousands of characters in my career, across numerous settings. Goblin Paladins aren't odd in Eberron, for example, because there's an entire goblinoid nation with the equivalent of samurai and ninja in their history, and those would fit perfectly well. A Dragonborn (Anything) would be strange in a Dragonlance setting, but perfectly normal in Faerun.

One of my odd characters who comes to mind isn't really that odd; a Warforged Wild Magic Barbarian. Magic and barbarians don't go together, but then there's this subclass that's right there in the rulebook that does just that. For his backstory, he's an embodiment of the Mourning, an event that wiped out an entire nation and sometimes causes magic within its borders to actually come to life as creatures of the pure spell energy.
Frilia Silverstring
Gnome Fighter, 208 posts
Tue 9 May 2023
at 23:38
  • msg #582

Re: The Pub Crawl:  OOC

Not that original as class / race, but one of my char on rpol is a half elf barbarian... but she's a noble by birth. She channels her rage at the misfortunes her family and herself suffered, she would rather go back to her old life than to continue having to work as a legbreaker for unsavory types... but she doesn't have a choice.

I like to do  twists to classic tropes, so Avelyn is the reverse of a "noble barbarian savage"... she's an actual noble that fell into hard times and has understandable anger issues.

Frilia was supposed to be a goblin originally,  but with the story it didn't fit, so I made her a gnome instead.
This message was last edited by the player at 23:46, Tue 09 May 2023.
Lucidity Velderan
player, 62 posts
Human
Rogue/Inquisitive
Wed 10 May 2023
at 00:22
  • msg #583

Re: The Pub Crawl:  OOC

quote:
A human and another, way smaller, Tortle entered the already crowded inn. The tortle approached their table and spoke weirdly to Tyrsoir, of all the persons around!

LOL.  I love it.  Sounds like the lead in to a joke.  "A priest, a bishop, and a rabbi walked into a bar ... "

Anyway, why didn't a goblin character work with the story?  Goblins here don't sound like goblins in, say, Pathfinder.
Frilia Silverstring
Gnome Fighter, 210 posts
Wed 10 May 2023
at 00:25
  • msg #584

Re: The Pub Crawl:  OOC

Lucidity Velderan:
Anyway, why didn't a goblin character work with the story?  Goblins here don't sound like goblins in, say, Pathfinder.


You'll have to ask the GM on that one, had to change my story but that's all right, the BG is half the fun! Lol
This message was last edited by the player at 00:25, Wed 10 May 2023.
Dungeon Master
GM, 452 posts
Wed 10 May 2023
at 00:26
  • msg #585

Re: The Pub Crawl:  OOC

We're in Xhorhas, at the moment.  Goblins, Orc, and the traditionally "evil" races make up a majority of the population here, and are considered appropriately.  In other parts of Exandria, they have very much a different reception.

That doesn't mean you can't play one, but I warn people before they sign up for that sort of reception.  It can be frustrating to play if you're not expecting to deal with it.

Edited to add:  Rain has a pretty traumatic backstory event surrounding goblins.  I didn't want to have to overcome that hurdle early on in the story.
This message was last edited by the GM at 00:31, Wed 10 May 2023.
Lucidity Velderan
player, 63 posts
Human
Rogue/Inquisitive
Wed 10 May 2023
at 00:31
  • msg #586

Re: The Pub Crawl:  OOC

Ah.  I see.  I was wondering.  I caught a smattering of some back posts before I decided that I didn't want to read too far back.  Somewhat civil conversations with a drow.  Now I get it.
Lucidity Velderan
player, 64 posts
Human
Rogue/Inquisitive
Wed 10 May 2023
at 00:42
  • msg #587

Re: The Pub Crawl:  OOC

Hmm.  That misunderstanding is why Lucy so blithely approached a goblin child.  Oh well, live and learn.  Chalk it up to fatigue.
Hannah Demsersk
Human Paladin, 132 posts
Wed 10 May 2023
at 01:30
  • msg #588

Re: The Pub Crawl:  OOC

I feel inclined to join in on the whole Paladin discussion, considering...

Like DM said, The Oath is a good structure, but it doesn't have to define the character.
My character, Hannah, is a Paladin of Bahamut (Lawful Good) but she has a Chaotic Good nature. They don't exactly align, but they're still pretty close. Everybody worships their deity in their own way, so she has a pretty interesting oath. She vows to serve justice and protect the innocent, but will not be bound by the strictures and procedures of law, which sometimes doesn't always work. She worships Bahamut and serves justice, but does it in her own way.

If a sorcerer was going to slaughter a village, and the only way she could stop them was by killing them, she would, no hesitation, even if it isn't "lawfully" right.
Hannah Demsersk
Human Paladin, 134 posts
Wed 10 May 2023
at 02:16
  • msg #589

Re: The Pub Crawl:  OOC

As for odd characters, I once met a barbarian who was REALLY dumb. So dumb that he thought he was a paladin.
Lucidity Velderan
player, 65 posts
Human
Rogue/Inquisitive
Wed 10 May 2023
at 10:03
  • msg #590

Re: The Pub Crawl:  OOC

Hannah Demsersk:
As for odd characters, I once met a barbarian who was REALLY dumb. So dumb that he thought he was a paladin.

Ha!  I like that idea.
Dungeon Master
GM, 454 posts
Wed 10 May 2023
at 12:18
  • msg #591

Re: The Pub Crawl:  OOC

I have an artificer/barbarian multiclass concept I'm just waiting for the right game for.  It's Dr Jekyll and Mr. Hyde, D&D-style.  In most normal circumstances, he'd an artificer/alchemist.  But when he drinks his Rage potion, watch out!
Frilia Silverstring
Gnome Fighter, 211 posts
Wed 10 May 2023
at 12:34
  • msg #592

Re: The Pub Crawl:  OOC

In reply to Dungeon Master (msg # 591):

That is a nice concept! Extremely MAD though, it would be hard to get good bonuses for it with a point buy.
Rain
Tabaxi Ranger, 212 posts
Wed 10 May 2023
at 12:42
  • msg #593

Re: The Pub Crawl:  OOC

Still...very nice
Lucidity Velderan
player, 67 posts
Human
Rogue/Inquisitive
Wed 10 May 2023
at 13:04
  • msg #594

Re: The Pub Crawl:  OOC

quote:
In most normal circumstances, he'd an artificer/alchemist.  But when he drinks his Rage potion, watch out!

Love the idea.

Anyone here a fan of Alan Moore's League of Extraordinary Gentlemen?  I'd love to play in a game based on that concept.
Frilia Silverstring
Gnome Fighter, 212 posts
Wed 10 May 2023
at 13:47
  • msg #595

Re: The Pub Crawl:  OOC

I do want to try a plasmoid monk, doesn't need weapons or armor or food so it can fully use it's squeeze ability anytime, that would be fun I think... even if monks are broken in the wrong sense
Yawgo
Tortle Druid, 83 posts
Big Shell, Small Size
Spore Druid
Wed 10 May 2023
at 13:54
  • msg #596

Re: The Pub Crawl:  OOC

Could be fun: Autognome Gunslinger. Maybe a Warlock.

A small owlin barbarian. 'Would you like to meet my little friend?'
Frilia Silverstring
Gnome Fighter, 213 posts
Wed 10 May 2023
at 13:55
  • msg #597

Re: The Pub Crawl:  OOC

In reply to Lucidity Velderan (msg # 594):

I did really enjoy the movie, despite the bad critics, didn't read the comic.

Am I sensing a new game taking shape here? My plasmoid monk would fit right in that type of game, as would Patch's dr jekyll concept... who wants to GM this?
Yawgo
Tortle Druid, 84 posts
Big Shell, Small Size
Spore Druid
Wed 10 May 2023
at 14:01
  • msg #598

Re: The Pub Crawl:  OOC

Lucidity Velderan:
quote:
In most normal circumstances, he'd an artificer/alchemist.  But when he drinks his Rage potion, watch out!

Love the idea.

Anyone here a fan of Alan Moore's League of Extraordinary Gentlemen?  I'd love to play in a game based on that concept.

I didn't mind the movie. Got horrible reviews. That's when Sean Connery retired (RIP).
Lucidity Velderan
player, 68 posts
Human
Rogue/Inquisitive
Wed 10 May 2023
at 14:01
  • msg #599

Re: The Pub Crawl:  OOC

Plasmoid.  Autognome.  Wow.  All of these things I'd never heard of before.  I had to look these things up.  Wow.
Lucidity Velderan
player, 69 posts
Human
Rogue/Inquisitive
Wed 10 May 2023
at 14:04
  • msg #600

Re: The Pub Crawl:  OOC

Re: League of Extraordinary Gentlemen.

Yeah.  Bad reviews.  And, I have to say, the comic was much better.  But, it's rare when a movie matches or surpasses it's literary source.  Tough thing.  Making movies.

Another excellent Victorian era video treat - if you're into that sort of thing - is the series Penny Dreadful.
Frilia Silverstring
Gnome Fighter, 214 posts
Wed 10 May 2023
at 14:04
  • msg #601

Re: The Pub Crawl:  OOC

In reply to Lucidity Velderan (msg # 599):

Both those races are in Spelljammer
Frilia Silverstring
Gnome Fighter, 215 posts
Wed 10 May 2023
at 14:13
  • msg #602

Re: The Pub Crawl:  OOC

I think a dip in warlock would be needed for that that plasmoid monk... mask of many faces and misty vision (or beguiling influence)... looks like anyone and can dissappear anywhere there is a one inch hole...
Lucidity Velderan
player, 70 posts
Human
Rogue/Inquisitive
Wed 10 May 2023
at 14:19
  • msg #603

Re: The Pub Crawl:  OOC

Frilia Silverstring:
In reply to Lucidity Velderan (msg # 599):

Both those races are in Spelljammer

Yeah.  I saw that upon looking it up.  I was thinking plasmoid rogue when reading the description.  Why do you think monk instead?  For combat?
Yawgo
Tortle Druid, 85 posts
Big Shell, Small Size
Spore Druid
Wed 10 May 2023
at 14:23
  • msg #604

Re: The Pub Crawl:  OOC

Lucidity Velderan:
Frilia Silverstring:
In reply to Lucidity Velderan (msg # 599):

Both those races are in Spelljammer

Yeah.  I saw that upon looking it up.  I was thinking plasmoid rogue when reading the description.  Why do you think monk instead?  For combat?

Wouldn't run a Plasmoid but if I did I'd do something really weird like a Druid.

Shapeshifting R'Us.
Yawgo
Tortle Druid, 86 posts
Big Shell, Small Size
Spore Druid
Wed 10 May 2023
at 14:37
  • msg #605

Re: The Pub Crawl:  OOC

Actually a Plasmoid Rogue (Assasin) could be interesting. Slip into a room with a target asleep. Coat your 'arm' with poison. Hold their head down with one hand, shove the other into its mouth...

Plasemoid Monks are pretty broken....
This message was last edited by the player at 14:43, Wed 10 May 2023.
Frilia Silverstring
Gnome Fighter, 216 posts
Wed 10 May 2023
at 15:24
  • msg #606

The Pub Crawl:  OOC

In reply to Lucidity Velderan (msg # 603):

Just for the fact that the monk does not need any equipment to fight. I like the monk concept too, my first dnd5e char was a monk.

Before i saw how bad they really are overall

In the comments about the race on dndbeyond, someone suggested a soul knife with magic initiate for mage armor, that could also be a possibility for a naked char... or a hexblade warlock using armor of shadows and summoning his pact weapon when needed... so many ideas...
Lucidity Velderan
player, 72 posts
Human
Rogue/Inquisitive
Wed 10 May 2023
at 15:58
  • msg #607

The Pub Crawl:  OOC

In reply to Frilia Silverstring (msg # 606):

Ah yes.  Not requiring equipment.  That's a plus.  Especially the armor.

I've always been partial to monks.  Stealth / Dex builds.  With monks in particular there's a certain feeling of independence.  No reliance on weapons or armor.  And the higher Wisdom usually allows for enough of a dip into Survival to allow a monk to get along outside of civilized environs.  (At least in Pathfinder games.)

But, that's the second - or third - time that you've mentioned monks being bad/broken.  Why is that?
Kursak
Half-Goliath Cleric, 200 posts
AC 18 HP 18/18 THP 9
Vigilant Blessing: Hannah
Wed 10 May 2023
at 16:22
  • msg #608

Re: The Pub Crawl:  OOC

Builds that don't need equipment are really cool for low levels. They tend to fall off around level 5 or 6 when everyone else starts getting magic items. Most of 5E happens in tier 1 and tier 2 level ranges, so it's not a problem for most games. Especially RPoL games with the slower natural pace.

Odd character: Wild Magic Barbarian/Sorcerer - when a wild magic surge does things he doesn't like, he misses an attack roll, or an enemy succeeds on their saving throw, he gets pissed and goes into a rage.
Lucidity Velderan
player, 73 posts
Human
Rogue/Inquisitive
Wed 10 May 2023
at 16:51
  • msg #609

Re: The Pub Crawl:  OOC

Is that it?  That monks are underpowered?  I thought you meant the other way around.

Underpowered I'm feeling.  I play a monk in the game in which the DM and I are currently in.  We're level 5 now.  She specializes in getting herself beaten unconscious.  Feels like level 6 will never get here.  I'm looking forward to Shadow Step.
Lucidity Velderan
player, 74 posts
Human
Rogue/Inquisitive
Wed 10 May 2023
at 17:01
  • msg #610

Re: The Pub Crawl:  OOC

BTW, what is the take on magic items in this game?  I know that in the other games I'm in currently, the trend is to low magic.  At least item-wise.

It's challenging in its way.  But harder as well.  Or so I'm finding.
Frilia Silverstring
Gnome Fighter, 217 posts
Wed 10 May 2023
at 20:37
  • msg #611

Re: The Pub Crawl:  OOC

I played a mercy monk in an online live ToA game and the gm used the optional encumbrance rules (5× str instead of the normal 15×). I bucked at that limitation and made a monk to get rid of armor and heavy weapon. But like it was said, I became a punching bag that was always knocked out and was definitely feeling the limitation of getting left out by the others getting magic items.

That game collapsed due to the incompetence and inflexibility of the gm
Lucidity Velderan
player, 75 posts
Human
Rogue/Inquisitive
Wed 10 May 2023
at 21:16
  • msg #612

Re: The Pub Crawl:  OOC

In reply to Frilia Silverstring (msg # 611):

Yeah.  Some simple Bracers of Armor would do wonders for my monk.
Yawgo
Tortle Druid, 87 posts
Big Shell, Small Size
Spore Druid
Wed 10 May 2023
at 21:22
  • msg #613

Re: The Pub Crawl:  OOC

I think I got the highest AC: 19.
Lucidity Velderan
player, 76 posts
Human
Rogue/Inquisitive
Wed 10 May 2023
at 21:23
  • msg #614

Re: The Pub Crawl:  OOC

I'm betting that has something to do with being a Tortle.  Makes sense.

BTW, guys, Lucy was not at all designed for combat.  Please, don't expect anything in that direction.
Yawgo
Tortle Druid, 88 posts
Big Shell, Small Size
Spore Druid
Wed 10 May 2023
at 21:30
  • msg #615

Re: The Pub Crawl:  OOC

AC 19 not in the shell :)

No problem.
Frilia Silverstring
Gnome Fighter, 219 posts
Fri 12 May 2023
at 11:45
  • msg #616

Re: The Pub Crawl:  OOC

I will be traveling for the next few days, so the posting schedule will be reduced
Yawgo
Tortle Druid, 91 posts
Big Shell, Small Size
Spore Druid
Fri 12 May 2023
at 14:23
  • msg #617

Re: The Pub Crawl:  OOC

Lucidity Velderan:
I'm betting that has something to do with being a Tortle.  Makes sense.

BTW, guys, Lucy was not at all designed for combat.  Please, don't expect anything in that direction.

Good. Yawgo has someone he can hide behind lol!

Got some cool combat spells though.

Mess with dreams, Yawgo doesn't like :)
Yawgo
Tortle Druid, 92 posts
Big Shell, Small Size
Spore Druid
Fri 12 May 2023
at 14:59
  • msg #618

Re: The Pub Crawl:  OOC

Quick question: Is it possible that someone knows who the moonweaver is like say Arcana check or possibly Religion or is it someone totally new?
Lucidity Velderan
player, 81 posts
Human
Rogue/Inquisitive
Fri 12 May 2023
at 15:27
  • msg #619

Re: The Pub Crawl:  OOC

Yawgo:
Lucidity Velderan:
I'm betting that has something to do with being a Tortle.  Makes sense.

BTW, guys, Lucy was not at all designed for combat.  Please, don't expect anything in that direction.

Good. Yawgo has someone he can hide behind lol!

Got some cool combat spells though.

Mess with dreams, Yawgo doesn't like :)

You don't have to run faster than the bear in order to escape.  You just have to run faster than the guy next to you.
Dungeon Master
GM, 458 posts
Fri 12 May 2023
at 15:30
  • msg #620

Re: The Pub Crawl:  OOC

Yawgo:
Quick question: Is it possible that someone knows who the moonweaver is like say Arcana check or possibly Religion or is it someone totally new?


This would be a Religion check.
Yawgo
Tortle Druid, 93 posts
Big Shell, Small Size
Spore Druid
Fri 12 May 2023
at 15:31
  • msg #621

Re: The Pub Crawl:  OOC

Lucidity Velderan:
Yawgo:
Lucidity Velderan:
I'm betting that has something to do with being a Tortle.  Makes sense.

BTW, guys, Lucy was not at all designed for combat.  Please, don't expect anything in that direction.

Good. Yawgo has someone he can hide behind lol!

Got some cool combat spells though.

Mess with dreams, Yawgo doesn't like :)

You don't have to run faster than the bear in order to escape.  You just have to run faster than the guy next to you.

Which would be me lol! Probably everyone is faster then me.
Yawgo
Tortle Druid, 94 posts
Big Shell, Small Size
Spore Druid
Fri 12 May 2023
at 16:36
  • msg #622

Re: The Pub Crawl:  OOC

Don't think you get disavantage on skills checks without reason, Luc
Lucidity Velderan
player, 83 posts
Human
Rogue/Inquisitive
Fri 12 May 2023
at 16:50
  • msg #623

Re: The Pub Crawl:  OOC

Dungeon Master Msg #97:
Lucidity spent most of the night walking.  The sun hit her eyes as she came into town from the western end, and she stifled a yawn.  The town was about as far a cry from Emon as you could get.  Most of the building here were weathered timber, and constructed in a very utilitarian fashion.  There was no architecture in sight.  The homes were packed closely together, and as she walked down the main street, she say village life coming into being.  Children were being set to chores, feeding chickens, or sweeping the step.  Washing was being hung out to dry in the morning sun.  A fair number of people were heading down toward the river or east.  Most of the people she saw were goblin, the rest were split between orc and other races.  She drew plenty of eyes herself as she walked.

OOC: Lucy takes a point of exhaustion for walking through the night without a long rest.  Until the next Long Rest, you have disadvantage on ability checks (not attacks or saving throws).

What's the plan?

Lucidity Velderan
player, 84 posts
Human
Rogue/Inquisitive
Fri 12 May 2023
at 16:51
  • msg #624

Re: The Pub Crawl:  OOC

Unfortunately, most of what Lucy is designed to do involves ability checks.
Lucidity Velderan
player, 85 posts
Human
Rogue/Inquisitive
Fri 12 May 2023
at 16:52
  • msg #625

Re: The Pub Crawl:  OOC

But, it's an interesting challenge, though.  I don't mind.
Dungeon Master
GM, 460 posts
Fri 12 May 2023
at 17:01
  • msg #626

Re: The Pub Crawl:  OOC

I appreciate you staying on top of it, too.  :)

Btw, I've updated Lucy's tags (to Human Rogue) -- this means you can have your bio-lines back to do with as your please.  :)
Lucidity Velderan
Human Rogue, 86 posts
Human
Rogue/Inquisitive
Fri 12 May 2023
at 17:15
  • msg #627

Re: The Pub Crawl:  OOC

Thanks.  I'll see what I can do with them.
Yawgo
Tortle Druid, 96 posts
Big Shell, Small Size
Spore Druid
Fri 12 May 2023
at 17:40
  • msg #628

Re: The Pub Crawl:  OOC

If Yawgo dies we riot!

Right? (looks behind him and doesn't see anyone)

Oh son of a....lol
Lucidity Velderan
Human Rogue, 87 posts
Human
Rogue/Inquisitive
Fri 12 May 2023
at 18:11
  • msg #629

Re: The Pub Crawl:  OOC

That's what the high AC is for.  Right?
Yawgo
Tortle Druid, 97 posts
Big Shell, Small Size
Spore Druid
Fri 12 May 2023
at 18:18
  • msg #630

Re: The Pub Crawl:  OOC

Well there are ways around it like spells and 'touch'attacks ( I know 5e doesn't have them). Like Hold Person and then Sinking cloud or some other spell.

Heck with a shield and shelling up I'm looking at 23 AC but cannot do anything besides concenrating on a spell.

Yawgo is making friends. Well sort of other then Lynn.
Lucidity Velderan
Human Rogue, 88 posts
Human
Rogue/Inquisitive
Fri 12 May 2023
at 18:43
  • msg #631

Re: The Pub Crawl:  OOC

You can growl, and deliver piercing looks while the rest of us rain blows on all of the enemies whose attacks you've drawn.

Watch out for the drake, BTW.  Oh, wait.
Yawgo
Tortle Druid, 98 posts
Big Shell, Small Size
Spore Druid
Fri 12 May 2023
at 18:49
  • msg #632

Re: The Pub Crawl:  OOC

Step one: Walk into the enemies.
Step two: Intimidate them.
Step three: Shell up.

:)
Lucidity Velderan
Human Rogue, 89 posts
Human
Rogue/Inquisitive
Fri 12 May 2023
at 19:02
  • msg #633

Re: The Pub Crawl:  OOC

That's the idea.
Frilia Silverstring
Gnome Fighter, 221 posts
Fri 12 May 2023
at 22:29
  • msg #634

Re: The Pub Crawl:  OOC

In reply to Yawgo (msg # 621):

Gnomes have a base speed of 25...


Spoiler text: (Highlight or hover over the text to view)
good thing my starting feat is Mobile XD

Yawgo
Tortle Druid, 99 posts
Big Shell, Small Size
Spore Druid
Fri 12 May 2023
at 22:33
  • msg #635

Re: The Pub Crawl:  OOC

Intimidation of....

Waits....

+0 lol
Lucidity Velderan
Human Rogue, 90 posts
Crime is common.
Logic is rare.
Fri 12 May 2023
at 22:37
  • msg #636

Re: The Pub Crawl:  OOC

That's where a well timed raspberry comes in handy.
Frilia Silverstring
Gnome Fighter, 222 posts
Fri 12 May 2023
at 22:46
  • msg #637

Re: The Pub Crawl:  OOC

Yawgo:
Step one: Walk into the enemies.
Step two: Intimidate them.
Step three: Shell up.

:)


That gives me an char concept idea... tortle warlock with armor of agathys, shell up... everyone touching it takes cold damage. Even better if you multiclass with a abjuration wizard, build up your shield with multiple cast of mage armor (armor of shadows) so your temp hp from armor of agathys are not touched...
Yawgo
Tortle Druid, 100 posts
Big Shell, Small Size
Spore Druid
Fri 12 May 2023
at 23:49
  • msg #638

Re: The Pub Crawl:  OOC

Lucidity Velderan:
That's where a well timed raspberry comes in handy.

A tortle giving a raspberry? LOL Good luck with that :) Yawgo probably doesn't know what one is haha.
Lucidity Velderan
Human Rogue, 91 posts
Crime is common.
Logic is rare.
Sat 13 May 2023
at 00:09
  • msg #639

Re: The Pub Crawl:  OOC

Oh yeah.  And no lips.
Yawgo
Tortle Druid, 101 posts
Big Shell, Small Size
Spore Druid
Sat 13 May 2023
at 00:18
  • msg #640

Re: The Pub Crawl:  OOC

I can wave my butt at him sort of lol!
Lucidity Velderan
Human Rogue, 92 posts
Crime is common.
Logic is rare.
Sat 13 May 2023
at 00:26
  • msg #641

Re: The Pub Crawl:  OOC

A tail would help.
Yawgo
Tortle Druid, 102 posts
Big Shell, Small Size
Spore Druid
Sat 13 May 2023
at 00:30
  • msg #642

Re: The Pub Crawl:  OOC

Tortles have tails lol!
Lucidity Velderan
Human Rogue, 93 posts
Crime is common.
Logic is rare.
Sat 13 May 2023
at 00:39
  • msg #643

Re: The Pub Crawl:  OOC

Well, there you go.  Both a tail and a tale.
Yawgo
Tortle Druid, 103 posts
Big Shell, Small Size
Spore Druid
Sat 13 May 2023
at 00:42
  • msg #644

Re: The Pub Crawl:  OOC

*is proud* I accomplished something :)
Dungeon Master
GM, 461 posts
Sat 13 May 2023
at 00:55
  • msg #645

Re: The Pub Crawl:  OOC

Frilia Silverstring:
That gives me an char concept idea... tortle warlock with armor of agathys, shell up... everyone touching it takes cold damage. Even better if you multiclass with a abjuration wizard, build up your shield with multiple cast of mage armor (armor of shadows) so your temp hp from armor of agathys are not touched...


Armour of Agathys only triggers if someone hits you while it's up.  Touching doesn't do it.
And Mage Armour would have no effect either, since a tortle's base AC (17) is higher than the Mage armour gives you (AC:13 + DexMod).
This message was last edited by the GM at 01:11, Sat 13 May 2023.
Lucidity Velderan
Human Rogue, 94 posts
Crime is common.
Logic is rare.
Sat 13 May 2023
at 01:11
  • msg #646

Re: The Pub Crawl:  OOC

Well, then.  Time for the electrified barbed-wire armor enhancements.
Yawgo
Tortle Druid, 104 posts
Big Shell, Small Size
Spore Druid
Sat 13 May 2023
at 02:02
  • msg #647

Re: The Pub Crawl:  OOC

Lucidity Velderan:
Well, then.  Time for the electrified barbed-wire armor enhancements.

If only I went artificer....
Frilia Silverstring
Gnome Fighter, 223 posts
Sat 13 May 2023
at 04:42
  • msg #648

Re: The Pub Crawl:  OOC

Dungeon Master:
Frilia Silverstring:
That gives me an char concept idea... tortle warlock with armor of agathys, shell up... everyone touching it takes cold damage. Even better if you multiclass with a abjuration wizard, build up your shield with multiple cast of mage armor (armor of shadows) so your temp hp from armor of agathys are not touched...


Armour of Agathys only triggers if someone hits you while it's up.  Touching doesn't do it.
And Mage Armour would have no effect either, since a tortle's base AC (17) is higher than the Mage armour gives you (AC:13 + DexMod).


I know about the tortle natural AC being higher than mage armor, thats not the goal... its an spell slot-less abjuration leveled spell that the abjuration wizard can use to power up his arcane ward ability ;)
This message was last edited by the player at 04:44, Sat 13 May 2023.
Lucidity Velderan
Human Rogue, 96 posts
Crime is common.
Logic is rare.
Sat 13 May 2023
at 12:35
  • msg #649

Re: The Pub Crawl:  OOC

BTW, feel free to roll those knowledge checks that Lucy just tried.  I have the feeling that they will yield significant facts.

Except the coffee, that is.  Significant fact-wise.
Frilia Silverstring
Gnome Fighter, 224 posts
Sat 13 May 2023
at 12:39
  • msg #650

Re: The Pub Crawl:  OOC

They were already rolled when we had the actual vision, just trying to figure out how much the air head Frilia would actually remember ;)
Dungeon Master
GM, 465 posts
Sat 13 May 2023
at 12:51
  • msg #651

Re: The Pub Crawl:  OOC

Exhaustion is brutal, even the first level.  You don't want to try the lower levels.
Lucidity Velderan
Human Rogue, 97 posts
Crime is common.
Logic is rare.
Sat 13 May 2023
at 13:13
  • msg #652

Re: The Pub Crawl:  OOC

To be fair, exhaustion is pretty burtal.

Whoa.  Just looked up the mechanics.  You can be worked to death.
Lucidity Velderan
Human Rogue, 98 posts
Crime is common.
Logic is rare.
Sat 13 May 2023
at 14:22
  • msg #653

Re: The Pub Crawl:  OOC

Frilia Silverstring:
They were already rolled when we had the actual vision, just trying to figure out how much the air head Frilia would actually remember ;)

That brought a thought to mind.  I know that it's standard to allow only one knowledge check per topic.  Makes sense when you consider that you either know something or you do not.  But, would you allow a retry in the case of exhaustion after rest?  You might, after all, be likely to recall something that you did not when tired.
Dungeon Master
GM, 466 posts
Sat 13 May 2023
at 17:04
  • msg #654

Re: The Pub Crawl:  OOC

We'll take that on a case-by-case basis.

I *will* say however, that even if a second attempt is allowed, the DC goes up every time.  It's a bit like solving a word puzzle after you've already guessed once -- your brain keeps wanting to go back to the answer it's already worked out, even if it's known to be wrong.

The British show 8 out of 10 Cats does Countdown uses this a lot with their jumbled words.  You'll be given a word like GIANTNIPS -- and then it's really hard to unscramble that into PAINTINGS because your brain keeps seeing "Giant Nips".

In this case, sure: I'll allow you to reattempt those rolls -- once, after a long rest, but the DC will be higher.  Assuming someone else doesn't work out the details before then.
Lucidity Velderan
Human Rogue, 99 posts
Crime is common.
Logic is rare.
Sat 13 May 2023
at 17:22
  • msg #655

Re: The Pub Crawl:  OOC

Gotcha.  I suppose that in the meantime, then, it would be best to be circumspect with the knowledge checks.
Yawgo
Tortle Druid, 108 posts
Big Shell, Small Size
Spore Druid
Mon 15 May 2023
at 14:15
  • msg #656

Re: The Pub Crawl:  OOC

So let me gets this straight :) In a nutshell:

-Champions (Blades correct?) were successful.
-Found a statue and a amulet.
-Frilia put it in its hand.
-Dreams/Nightmares came from it from Alyxian asking for aid.
-Meanwhile, Yawgo had the nightmare.
-Blades took the amulet and decides to rest here. Filia took it and went to sleep.
-Woke up, came down here and realized it was gone.
-In walks Detective Lucidity lol

So trying to find the amulet, how its linked to Alyxian, what the moonweaver wants with it (possibly) who the 'souls' in the dreams were. Lots of questions.

All I wanted was to see the Hozonbacks :) j/k
Lucidity Velderan
Human Rogue, 102 posts
Crime is common.
Logic is rare.
Mon 15 May 2023
at 14:21
  • msg #657

Re: The Pub Crawl:  OOC

Yawgo:
So let me gets this straight :) In a nutshell:

-Champions (Blades correct?) were successful.
-Found a statue and a amulet.
-Frilia put it in its hand.
-Dreams/Nightmares came from it from Alyxian asking for aid.
-Meanwhile, Yawgo had the nightmare.
-Blades took the amulet and decides to rest here. Filia took it and went to sleep.
-Woke up, came down here and realized it was gone.
-In walks Detective Lucidity lol

So trying to find the amulet, how its linked to Alyxian, what the moonweaver wants with it (possibly) who the 'souls' in the dreams were. Lots of questions.

All I wanted was to see the Hozonbacks :) j/k

-Frilia put it in its hand.

I don't think so.  I think it was a spear that she put in the statue's hand.  Or, rather, she said she had the idea of putting the spear in the statue's hand.  (Msg 114)

All I wanted was to see the Hozonbacks :) j/k

Just open the door and look down.
Yawgo
Tortle Druid, 109 posts
Big Shell, Small Size
Spore Druid
Mon 15 May 2023
at 14:31
  • msg #658

Re: The Pub Crawl:  OOC

Thanks Luc lol!
Lucidity Velderan
Human Rogue, 103 posts
Crime is common.
Logic is rare.
Mon 15 May 2023
at 14:42
  • msg #659

Re: The Pub Crawl:  OOC

The problem with simple goals is that they leave you with nothing once they are achieved.

Have you considered something more along the lines of touching the soul of the great horizonback collective?  I mean, even if that's not really a thing, it's pretty cool.  And you could do a lot trying to get there.
Yawgo
Tortle Druid, 110 posts
Big Shell, Small Size
Spore Druid
Mon 15 May 2023
at 14:51
  • msg #660

Re: The Pub Crawl:  OOC

Lucidity Velderan:
The problem with simple goals is that they leave you with nothing once they are achieved.

Have you considered something more along the lines of touching the soul of the great horizonback collective?  I mean, even if that's not really a thing, it's pretty cool.  And you could do a lot trying to get there.

Well I want to train them, learn from them. Be at one with them. The druid thing :) I like the whole 'horizonback collective' idea. To Yawgo it could be a thing. He views it as a family tree so to speak. There's more to it then just seeing them.

Like a kobold wanting to be a dragon. Not likely to happen could move towards it.
Lucidity Velderan
Human Rogue, 104 posts
Crime is common.
Logic is rare.
Mon 15 May 2023
at 15:08
  • msg #661

Re: The Pub Crawl:  OOC

Sounds cool.  Tortles communing with horizonbacks.  More so than humans communing with nature.  I mean, I never did quite get the whole druidism thing.  I mean, outside of the Wicker Man stuff, which is more horror oriented.  Always seemed to me to be a human-centric line drawn between what is Natural and what is Not.  Might as well have fun with the character another way.
Dungeon Master
GM, 469 posts
Mon 15 May 2023
at 15:53
  • msg #662

Re: The Pub Crawl:  OOC

My free advice: ignore the supposed boundaries of your race/class selection.  They're guidelines only.  Feel free to colour outside the lines, but know why you're doing it.

There's nothing that dictates "a druid must be reverent towards nature".  I have a barbarian/druid multiclass (technically, she'd a barbarian only, and will multi into druid later, but the point's the same).  She's not worshipful of nature, or concerned about the "natural order" in any way.  So why's she a druid, then?  Good question!

Her tribe has a dual leadership structure.  Temporal leadership is done by the the tribe chief, and spiritual leadership is done by a shamanistic circle, who interpret omens, etc..  The most powerful bloodlines carry within them the gift of shapechanging (aka Wild Shape).  Most of those who can are typically limited in their shapes (as per Wild Shape rules), but Keely's talent is stronger (she'll be circle of the moon).

Rather than worshiping nature, her "druidic powers" are from her bloodline -- and her focus is on her tribe, rather than some nature/balance trope.
Lucidity Velderan
Human Rogue, 105 posts
Crime is common.
Logic is rare.
Mon 15 May 2023
at 16:08
  • msg #663

Re: The Pub Crawl:  OOC

I hear you.  Lucy is a Lawful Good rogue.

Hmmm.  I guess they don't dictate alignments in the way they used to.  Not even for Paladin or Monk.  Well, that's a good sign.  I never liked that.

I was thinking of going with Bard for the knowledge thing, but I couldn't find anything that fit the investigator profile.  And I'm a sucker for the title "Inquisitive", so I went with Rogue and the Inquisitive Archetype.  Still kept the violin, though.  For flavor.
Lucidity Velderan
Human Rogue, 106 posts
Crime is common.
Logic is rare.
Mon 15 May 2023
at 21:26
  • msg #664

Re: The Pub Crawl:  OOC

I was just looking this group over on D&D Beyond.  We're a very interesting group.  Everyone seems to be very unique.  Not a lot of crossover.
Yawgo
Tortle Druid, 111 posts
Big Shell, Small Size
Spore Druid
Tue 16 May 2023
at 17:45
  • msg #665

Re: The Pub Crawl:  OOC

Lucidity Velderan:
I was just looking this group over on D&D Beyond.  We're a very interesting group.  Everyone seems to be very unique.  Not a lot of crossover.

I try to pick a class and race that the group doesn't have :) And yeah got a odd group.
Frilia Silverstring
Gnome Fighter, 227 posts
Tue 16 May 2023
at 20:24
  • msg #666

Re: The Pub Crawl:  OOC

I just wanted to try echo knight in this game, having fun so far!
Lucidity Velderan
Human Rogue, 107 posts
Crime is common.
Logic is rare.
Tue 16 May 2023
at 20:32
  • msg #667

Re: The Pub Crawl:  OOC

I wasn't familiar with the echo knight, so I looked it up.  What's the appeal, the draw, or the inspiration for you in the echo knight?
Yawgo
Tortle Druid, 112 posts
Big Shell, Small Size
Spore Druid
Tue 16 May 2023
at 20:49
  • msg #668

Re: The Pub Crawl:  OOC

Lucidity Velderan:
I wasn't familiar with the echo knight, so I looked it up.  What's the appeal, the draw, or the inspiration for you in the echo knight?

Next you'll be asking me what the appeal, the draw or the inspiration for me in choosing tortle and druid lol!

Echo knight looks interesting. I like how you can have the echo attack or you. Its like having a mini-me.
Lucidity Velderan
Human Rogue, 108 posts
Crime is common.
Logic is rare.
Tue 16 May 2023
at 21:10
  • msg #669

Re: The Pub Crawl:  OOC

In reply to Yawgo (msg # 668):

No.  We're contemporaries.  I've seen your posts on this thread.  Seen your comments on Yawgo in the OoC thread.  I haven't read any of the other threads, so I don't know much about Frilia.

Upon reading the Shadow Knight description, though, my first thought was the DC comics character who could create copies of himself.  Forgot the name of the character.
Yawgo
Tortle Druid, 113 posts
Big Shell, Small Size
Spore Druid
Tue 16 May 2023
at 21:22
  • msg #670

Re: The Pub Crawl:  OOC

I know a marval one-Multiple Man.

contemporaries?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/...duplicate_themselves

I got a feeling its going to be interesting between Frilia and Yawgo. Not bad though.
Lucidity Velderan
Human Rogue, 109 posts
Crime is common.
Logic is rare.
Tue 16 May 2023
at 21:47
  • msg #671

Re: The Pub Crawl:  OOC

Found it!  Multiplex.

https://comicvine.gamespot.com/multiplex/4005-3412/

And to answer your question, who knows?  Those two companies always seem to copy each other in one way or another.

What do you mean by interesting?  (And here's where we get the classic:  "Um ... I'm right here, you know?" from Frilia.)
Frilia Silverstring
Gnome Fighter, 228 posts
Tue 16 May 2023
at 22:30
  • msg #672

Re: The Pub Crawl:  OOC

Lucidity:
What do you mean by interesting?  (And here's where we get the classic:  "Um ... I'm right here, you know?" from Frilia.)


Is it me? Or not? Swaps place with the echo
Lucidity Velderan
Human Rogue, 110 posts
Crime is common.
Logic is rare.
Wed 17 May 2023
at 00:04
  • msg #673

Re: The Pub Crawl:  OOC

Well put.
Lucidity Velderan
Human Rogue, 111 posts
Crime is common.
Logic is rare.
Wed 17 May 2023
at 04:08
  • msg #674

Re: The Pub Crawl:  OOC

And a spot of breakfast for Lucy, please?
Dungeon Master
GM, 471 posts
Wed 17 May 2023
at 04:37
  • msg #675

Re: The Pub Crawl:  OOC

Edited to add.  Thanks for picking that up.
Maglynn Othronus
Elf Warlock, 24 posts
Scholar & Seeker
Wed 17 May 2023
at 11:43
  • msg #676

Re: The Pub Crawl:  OOC

Now Lynn is cranky.  She ordered breakfast for her and Yawgo (and paid) before the human even walked in the door.  Damn racist innkeeps!
Lucidity Velderan
Human Rogue, 112 posts
Crime is common.
Logic is rare.
Wed 17 May 2023
at 11:51
  • msg #677

Re: The Pub Crawl:  OOC

Wait, wait.  You haven't gotten yours yet?

Though, I gotta say, I've been to restaurants just like this before.
Dungeon Master
GM, 472 posts
Wed 17 May 2023
at 12:15
  • msg #678

Re: The Pub Crawl:  OOC

Hrm. I posted about crockery and cutlery, but not about the food. Let's just say you've also been delivered breakfast and move on...
Lucidity Velderan
Human Rogue, 113 posts
Crime is common.
Logic is rare.
Wed 17 May 2023
at 13:11
  • msg #679

Re: The Pub Crawl:  OOC

Dungeon Master Msg #131:
Agatha was already heading over with a plate of bacon, eggs, and mushrooms for Lucy.  When she set the plate down, she looked over at Yawgo.  "Can I get you something, dear?"

My apologies.  Lucy's food had already come several posts ago.
Lucidity Velderan
Human Rogue, 115 posts
Crime is common.
Logic is rare.
Wed 17 May 2023
at 13:56
  • msg #680

Re: The Pub Crawl:  OOC

Question about the Eye for Detail feature of the Rogue's Inquisitive archetype:  The description as quoted below says to use a Perception check to make an Investigation check.  But, Lucy's Investigation number is higher than her Perception number.  I'll stand by the rolls that I just made, but, in this case, would it have been better to have simply made an Investigation check?

quote:
Eye for Detail XGtE, pg. 46
You can use a bonus action to make a Perception check to spot a hidden creature or object or to make an Investigation check to uncover or decipher clues.


Also, what is the difference between an Eye for Detail Perception check and an Investigation check?  Does an Investigation check take longer?  In this case, I don't think this would matter.  But, I could see, for example, that in the midst of combat, shortening the duration for observation plus deduction into the blink of an eye that is a combat bonus action could be advantageous.  Other than that, I don't see the advantage of the Eye for Detail feature.

Well, there is the "spot the hidden creature" part of the feature.  That's handy.
Frilia Silverstring
Gnome Fighter, 229 posts
Wed 17 May 2023
at 13:59
  • msg #681

Re: The Pub Crawl:  OOC

There is a OR in there, you can make a bonus action Perception or bonus action Investigation. Those two skills often get mixed up, my take on it is that with Perception you SEE stuff and with investigation you INTERPRET what you see, what does it mean
Lucidity Velderan
Human Rogue, 116 posts
Crime is common.
Logic is rare.
Wed 17 May 2023
at 14:19
  • msg #682

Re: The Pub Crawl:  OOC

Ah. Thanks.  I missed the second 'or'.  That explains things well.  I'll still stand by my rolls.  But, if the DM is feeling generous, they could add a 1 to the roll to be in line with Lucy's Investigation.  ^_^
Frilia Silverstring
Gnome Fighter, 231 posts
Wed 17 May 2023
at 14:44
  • msg #683

Re: The Pub Crawl:  OOC

Not to tell you how to play your char, Lucy, but if I could suggest something, it would be a good time to check the scene of the crime before Frilia wrecks it ;)
Yawgo
Tortle Druid, 115 posts
Big Shell, Small Size
Spore Druid
Wed 17 May 2023
at 15:04
  • msg #684

Re: The Pub Crawl:  OOC

Wait. Someone listened to the strange Yawgo? lol!

*high fives Frilia*
Lucidity Velderan
Human Rogue, 117 posts
Crime is common.
Logic is rare.
Wed 17 May 2023
at 15:11
  • msg #685

Re: The Pub Crawl:  OOC

Frilia Silverstring:
Not to tell you how to play your char, Lucy, but if I could suggest something, it would be a good time to check the scene of the crime before Frilia wrecks it ;)

Not a problem.  Always willing to take suggestions.  I would like, however, to receive the results of that Investigation check before rushing upstairs after Frilia.
Frilia Silverstring
Gnome Fighter, 232 posts
Wed 17 May 2023
at 20:42
  • msg #686

Re: The Pub Crawl:  OOC

And if you help me check,I get advantage. With your exhaustion, I would only remove your disadvantage by helping you
Lucidity Velderan
Human Rogue, 118 posts
Crime is common.
Logic is rare.
Wed 17 May 2023
at 21:28
  • msg #687

Re: The Pub Crawl:  OOC

Hmm.  Considering that Lucidity has an Investigation of 7 and Frilia has an Investigation of 0 it might be better to have Frilia help Lucidity.  After all, the worst Lucidity could get would be an 8.  (Do critical failures happen with Skill checks in 5e?  I don't think they did in Pathfinder.)

Anyone here done a comparison between the odds given an increased number of chances vs a higher starting modifier?
Dungeon Master
GM, 473 posts
Wed 17 May 2023
at 22:10
  • msg #688

Re: The Pub Crawl:  OOC

Frilia Silverstring:
Those two skills often get mixed up, my take on it is that with Perception you SEE stuff and with investigation you INTERPRET what you see, what does it mean


For the record, I handle these two skills differently.

Largely, Perception is used when you're looking for anything.  When you're looking to see what jumps out at you, or to see if something is out of place; that's perception.

Investigation is when you're looking for something.  Checking for traps is an investigation roll for me.  You're looking for something specific (and usually hidden).  Looking for the right document in a stack of papers would be investigation.

Perception is faster, but far less precise.  Investigation takes longer, and you have to be closer, but you can bet better information.

That's my take on it.
This message was last edited by the GM at 22:10, Wed 17 May 2023.
Lucidity Velderan
Human Rogue, 119 posts
Crime is common.
Logic is rare.
Wed 17 May 2023
at 22:37
  • msg #689

Re: The Pub Crawl:  OOC

Useful to know.  I'll tailor my checks to those definitions.
Dungeon Master
GM, 474 posts
Wed 17 May 2023
at 23:28
  • msg #690

Re: The Pub Crawl:  OOC

Lucidity Velderan:
Anyone here done a comparison between the odds given an increased number of chances vs a higher starting modifier?


I haven't done the maths (and I'm not that good at maths), but the commonly accepted calculation is the Advantage on a roll roughly equates to a +5 bonus.  Of course, the elephant in the room is that it's all dependent upon when you actually roll.
Lucidity Velderan
Human Rogue, 120 posts
Crime is common.
Logic is rare.
Wed 17 May 2023
at 23:41
  • msg #691

Re: The Pub Crawl:  OOC

But of course this dice rolling thing is a total crapshoot.

Oh.  Wait ...
This message had punctuation tweaked by the player at 23:42, Wed 17 May 2023.
Lucidity Velderan
Human Rogue, 122 posts
Crime is common.
Logic is rare.
Thu 18 May 2023
at 16:02
  • msg #692

Re: The Pub Crawl:  OOC

Yawgo:
He looks up and sees Luc standing near the window "View is nice?"

Soooo ...  Just curious.  How does that sound in your head?  'Luc' as in cannon?  Or 'Luc' as in "I am your father?"
Yawgo
Tortle Druid, 117 posts
Big Shell, Small Size
Spore Druid
Thu 18 May 2023
at 16:08
  • msg #693

Re: The Pub Crawl:  OOC

Lucidity Velderan:
Yawgo:
He looks up and sees Luc standing near the window "View is nice?"

Soooo ...  Just curious.  How does that sound in your head?  'Luc' as in cannon?  Or 'Luc' as in "I am your father?"


Luc as in short of Lucindity.

And that's Luke I am your father. But that is not what he said. It was misquoted.

Vader:
No. I am your father.
Lucidity Velderan
Human Rogue, 123 posts
Crime is common.
Logic is rare.
Thu 18 May 2023
at 17:12
  • msg #694

Re: The Pub Crawl:  OOC

Are you familiar with the word Lucid?  Meaning to be characterized by clear perception or understanding?  Pronounced Loo-sid.  Or, in noun form Lucidity.

Not that it matters.  I'm good with Yawgo calling her Luke.  I had shortened the name to Lucy, but I'm good with either.
Yawgo
Tortle Druid, 118 posts
Big Shell, Small Size
Spore Druid
Thu 18 May 2023
at 17:22
  • msg #695

Re: The Pub Crawl:  OOC

Lucidity Velderan:
Are you familiar with the word Lucid?  Meaning to be characterized by clear perception or understanding?  Pronounced Loo-sid.  Or, in noun form Lucidity.

Not that it matters.  I'm good with Yawgo calling her Luke.  I had shortened the name to Lucy, but I'm good with either.

Actually I didn't call her anything nevermind a mans name. Course Yawgo probably doesn't know the difference. Please re-read the post. He doesn't know your name I believe. And yes I know what Lucid is. Only person he knows is Lynn.

Know what Yawgo means? Me neither lol.
Lucidity Velderan
Human Rogue, 124 posts
Crime is common.
Logic is rare.
Thu 18 May 2023
at 17:33
  • msg #696

Re: The Pub Crawl:  OOC

Hmm.  Not sure that Luke necessarily has to be a man's name.  Especially in a fantasy world.  Not sure there even need to be two genders.  Though almost all of the races have already been designed that way.
Yawgo
Tortle Druid, 119 posts
Big Shell, Small Size
Spore Druid
Thu 18 May 2023
at 17:42
  • msg #697

Re: The Pub Crawl:  OOC

Lucidity Velderan:
Hmm.  Not sure that Luke necessarily has to be a man's name.  Especially in a fantasy world.  Not sure there even need to be two genders.  Though almost all of the races have already been designed that way.

Well its stated its a maculine name but I suppose you can be called Luke if your a female or a variation of it like Luc. It depends on the race. Warforge don't have a sex. The person running it can choose of course. Changlings are odd. Same as Plasmoids. And autognome though usually when someone makes it they identify as a male or female.

No one has ask Yawgo if he's a male or female. Hard to tell lol!
Lucidity Velderan
Human Rogue, 125 posts
Crime is common.
Logic is rare.
Thu 18 May 2023
at 17:48
  • msg #698

Re: The Pub Crawl:  OOC

Stated by who?

I like to challenge conventions.  ^_^
Yawgo
Tortle Druid, 120 posts
Big Shell, Small Size
Spore Druid
Thu 18 May 2023
at 17:56
  • msg #699

Re: The Pub Crawl:  OOC

Lucidity Velderan:
Stated by who?

I like to challenge conventions.  ^_^

Look up the name Luke. It states 'Masculine'. So male. I have a brother named Luke.

I'm not trying to argue with anyone.

Luke is male. Lucia or Lucy are female but heck doesn't really matter on here.
This message was last edited by the player at 17:58, Thu 18 May 2023.
Lucidity Velderan
Human Rogue, 126 posts
Crime is common.
Logic is rare.
Thu 18 May 2023
at 18:00
  • msg #700

Re: The Pub Crawl:  OOC

Oh, I understand.  And I also understand that you're not being argumentative.

Just trying to get the point across that one doesn't have to do things a certain way just because other people say you should.

And I think you get that.
Yawgo
Tortle Druid, 121 posts
Big Shell, Small Size
Spore Druid
Thu 18 May 2023
at 18:11
  • msg #701

Re: The Pub Crawl:  OOC

Lucidity Velderan:
Oh, I understand.  And I also understand that you're not being argumentative.

Just trying to get the point across that one doesn't have to do things a certain way just because other people say you should.

And I think you get that.

Heck I got bored after talking about a amulet I know nothing about so I walks outside to taklk to a horizonback. Think Yawgo has ADD lol.
Dungeon Master
GM, 476 posts
Thu 18 May 2023
at 18:17
  • msg #702

Re: The Pub Crawl:  OOC

Meh.  Look up Star Trek: Discovery.  Main character's name is Michael Burnham (played by Sonequa Martin-Green).  I love that they haven't made a big deal about the "normal" gender of her name.  No comments from the rest of the crew, no backstory where her parents "wanted a boy, so gave her a boy's name", no making the character transgender.  There's no agenda on display; just a normal human female named "Michael."  And it works.

But then, Star Trek has always been known for pushing societal boundaries...
Lucidity Velderan
Human Rogue, 127 posts
Crime is common.
Logic is rare.
Thu 18 May 2023
at 18:31
  • msg #703

Re: The Pub Crawl:  OOC

Yeah.  Raised by Vulcans.  Well, a Vulcan and Human couple.

But, IIRC, Sarek and Amanda did not provide the name.

It's been a while.
Lucidity Velderan
Human Rogue, 131 posts
Crime is common.
Logic is rare.
Fri 19 May 2023
at 13:27
  • msg #704

Re: The Pub Crawl:  OOC

I suppose I should be more explicit in my questions in my posts.  Let me ask them here, though. Is Yawgo visible from the window?  Also - this just came to me - is the window open?  And how big is it?  Big enough to climb through?
Yawgo
Tortle Druid, 122 posts
Big Shell, Small Size
Spore Druid
Fri 19 May 2023
at 13:28
  • msg #705

Re: The Pub Crawl:  OOC

Lucidity Velderan:
I suppose I should be more explicit in my questions in my posts.  Let me ask them here, though. Is Yawgo visible from the window?  Also - this just came to me - is the window open?  And how big is it?  Big enough to climb through?

Yawgo is inside.

I was inside, then went outside to say hello to Tusk and look around then went back inside and grabbed my tea.
This message was last edited by the player at 13:31, Fri 19 May 2023.
Yawgo
Tortle Druid, 123 posts
Big Shell, Small Size
Spore Druid
Fri 19 May 2023
at 13:35
  • msg #706

Re: The Pub Crawl:  OOC

Quick question about this blade with it being outside. Would Yawgo have seen it or was he in a different area, like opposite of where Lucidity saw it?
Lucidity Velderan
Human Rogue, 132 posts
Crime is common.
Logic is rare.
Fri 19 May 2023
at 13:39
  • msg #707

Re: The Pub Crawl:  OOC

Shoot.  Sorry.  Forgot that detail.

BTW, Yawgo, I also edited to reply to your earlier question.
This message was last edited by the player at 13:42, Fri 19 May 2023.
Dungeon Master
GM, 479 posts
Fri 19 May 2023
at 15:10
  • msg #708

Re: The Pub Crawl:  OOC

Yawgo:
Quick question about this blade with it being outside. Would Yawgo have seen it or was he in a different area, like opposite of where Lucidity saw it?


Yawgo didn't see it.  Primarily because he wasn't looking for it.  His attention was focus down, towards Tusk, and the blade was up, in the roof.  Additionally Lucy used one of her class features to gain access to the clue.  ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Dungeon Master
GM, 480 posts
Fri 19 May 2023
at 15:11
  • msg #709

Re: The Pub Crawl:  OOC

Lucidity Velderan:
Also - this just came to me - is the window open?  And how big is it?  Big enough to climb through?


Sure.  The window's big enough to climb through.  It is not open at the moment.
Lucidity Velderan
Human Rogue, 133 posts
Crime is common.
Logic is rare.
Fri 19 May 2023
at 15:19
  • msg #710

Re: The Pub Crawl:  OOC

Thanks.  I think I'll wait for the results of Kursak's spell before proceeding further.
Lucidity Velderan
Human Rogue, 135 posts
Crime is common.
Logic is rare.
Fri 19 May 2023
at 16:14
  • msg #711

Re: The Pub Crawl:  OOC

BTW, I notice that I've been referring to Kursak as a goliath when he is listed as a half-goliath.  Apologies.
Kursak
Half-Goliath Cleric, 203 posts
AC 18 HP 23/23
Vigilant Blessing: Hannah
Fri 19 May 2023
at 16:54
  • msg #712

Re: The Pub Crawl:  OOC

His goliath shows quite clearly, so he won't mind.
Lucidity Velderan
Human Rogue, 136 posts
Crime is common.
Logic is rare.
Fri 19 May 2023
at 17:13
  • msg #713

Re: The Pub Crawl:  OOC

BTW:  Post 2000!!!
Lucidity Velderan
Human Rogue, 138 posts
Crime is common.
Logic is rare.
Sat 20 May 2023
at 01:21
  • msg #714

Re: The Pub Crawl:  OOC

Dungeon Master:
It was a slender sort of blade, perhaps three or four inches in length -- a tip of a dagger.

Three or four inches is just the tip of this thing?  That's a long dagger.

Have to be off shortly.  Post up in a few hours.
Dungeon Master
GM, 483 posts
Sat 20 May 2023
at 01:30
  • msg #715

Re: The Pub Crawl:  OOC

The specific length isn't important.  It's a broken blade, and it appears ti be the blade of a dagger.
Lucidity Velderan
Human Rogue, 140 posts
Crime is common.
Logic is rare.
Sat 20 May 2023
at 11:37
  • msg #716

Re: The Pub Crawl:  OOC

LOL.  I love those last two posts.  Filia and Rain.  Brilliant.
Frilia Silverstring
Gnome Fighter, 236 posts
Sat 20 May 2023
at 19:12
  • msg #717

Re: The Pub Crawl:  OOC

The go were Frilia's not supposed to be comment is for Lucy, if the blade fragment is out of reach ;)
Lucidity Velderan
Human Rogue, 141 posts
Crime is common.
Logic is rare.
Sat 20 May 2023
at 19:23
  • msg #718

Re: The Pub Crawl:  OOC

I'll remember that, if Lucy needs help.  Waiting for the results of the investigation check.  After that, you might get a rap on the window.
Frilia Silverstring
Gnome Fighter, 237 posts
Sat 20 May 2023
at 19:29
  • msg #719

Re: The Pub Crawl:  OOC

Lucidity Velderan:
LOL.  I love those last two posts.  Filia and Rain.  Brilliant.


We got to meet on rpol over a year ago and discovered we are commonwealth cousins (he's Aussi, I'm a Canuck) and we have a very good roleplaying chemistry. We've been pretty much following each other since, with Kursak, this GM and Lynn ;)
This message was last edited by the player at 19:32, Sat 20 May 2023.
Lucidity Velderan
Human Rogue, 142 posts
Crime is common.
Logic is rare.
Sat 20 May 2023
at 22:59
  • msg #720

Re: The Pub Crawl:  OOC

Sounds like a fun group.
Yawgo
Tortle Druid, 127 posts
Big Shell, Small Size
Spore Druid
Sat 20 May 2023
at 23:30
  • msg #721

Re: The Pub Crawl:  OOC

Just wait to see if Yawgo's past comes back to kick him in the well tail? lol
Frilia Silverstring
Gnome Fighter, 238 posts
Sun 21 May 2023
at 00:08
  • msg #722

Re: The Pub Crawl:  OOC

Well i can say this game has the most lively OOC thread of all my games, but we migrated all that activity to discord in the other games.. or its not as lively
Dungeon Master
GM, 485 posts
Sun 21 May 2023
at 01:34
  • msg #723

Re: The Pub Crawl:  OOC

quote:
Yawgo nods his head not dismissing the spell he cast


Did I miss something? Did Yawgo cast a spell?
Lucidity Velderan
Human Rogue, 143 posts
Crime is common.
Logic is rare.
Sun 21 May 2023
at 01:58
  • msg #724

Re: The Pub Crawl:  OOC

I don't have as easy access to Discord at work.  And I'm not as familiar with Discord either.  I finally - finallyfinnallyfinally - figured how to make it stop beeping every time someone else posts something.
Yawgo
Tortle Druid, 128 posts
Big Shell, Small Size
Spore Druid
Sun 21 May 2023
at 02:14
  • msg #725

Re: The Pub Crawl:  OOC

Dungeon Master:
quote:
Yawgo nods his head not dismissing the spell he cast


Did I miss something? Did Yawgo cast a spell?

No, he didn't say anything about the spell Kursak casted. Hasn't casted a spell. Sorry bout that.
Lucidity Velderan
Human Rogue, 144 posts
Crime is common.
Logic is rare.
Sun 21 May 2023
at 11:06
  • msg #726

Re: The Pub Crawl:  OOC

Apologies, but you are holding off on resolving that last investigation check on the dagger tip for time related reasons, am I correct?  Just wanted to make sure this wasn't forgotten.
Dungeon Master
GM, 488 posts
Sun 21 May 2023
at 11:21
  • msg #727

Re: The Pub Crawl:  OOC

Yes.  Conversation moves faster than investigation.  The results are up now.
Lucidity Velderan
Human Rogue, 146 posts
Crime is common.
Logic is rare.
Sun 21 May 2023
at 12:22
  • msg #728

Re: The Pub Crawl:  OOC

Thanks.  Post is up.
Lucidity Velderan
Human Rogue, 147 posts
Crime is common.
Logic is rare.
Sun 21 May 2023
at 14:11
  • msg #729

Re: The Pub Crawl:  OOC

Added the roll for window and roof.

Pretty lucky with these last two.
Yawgo
Tortle Druid, 130 posts
Big Shell, Small Size
Spore Druid
Mon 22 May 2023
at 15:24
  • msg #730

Re: The Pub Crawl:  OOC

IMO:
No one puts Yawgo in the corner! lol :)

Anyways. This really isn't getting anyone anywhere....

Frilia had it last so she did it. That's it. Case closed. Any question? haha.
This message was last edited by the player at 15:25, Mon 22 May 2023.
Dungeon Master
GM, 492 posts
Tue 23 May 2023
at 01:11
  • msg #731

Re: The Pub Crawl:  OOC

Lucy:
"Unless someone slipped, was in fear of falling, and drove their dagger into the roof to steady themselves," Velderan added to the gnome's conjecture.  "That would explain why the blade was broken, remaining in the shell.  I'm coming back inside," she announced.  She would have to get a look at the belts.


belts??
Frilia Silverstring
Gnome Fighter, 242 posts
Tue 23 May 2023
at 01:13
  • msg #732

Re: The Pub Crawl:  OOC

Yawgo:
IMO:
No one puts Yawgo in the corner! lol :)

Anyways. This really isn't getting anyone anywhere....

Frilia had it last so she did it. That's it. Case closed. Any question? haha.


Sherlock Holmes and Hercules Poirot would be ashamed lol
Lucidity Velderan
Human Rogue, 152 posts
Crime is common.
Logic is rare.
Tue 23 May 2023
at 01:34
  • msg #733

Re: The Pub Crawl:  OOC

Dirty Harry, on the other hand, would simply say, "You gotta ask yourself one question: Do you feel lucky?"
Dungeon Master
GM, 493 posts
Tue 23 May 2023
at 01:47
  • msg #734

Re: The Pub Crawl:  OOC

Lucy, what did you mean by belts?  (msg #731)
Lucidity Velderan
Human Rogue, 153 posts
Crime is common.
Logic is rare.
Tue 23 May 2023
at 04:19
  • msg #735

Re: The Pub Crawl:  OOC

In reply to Dungeon Master (msg # 734):

Scabbards are typically worn on belts.  (Though not always.)  Lucy is looking for someone with an empty scabbard that may have at one time contained a dagger.
Dungeon Master
GM, 494 posts
Tue 23 May 2023
at 04:21
  • msg #736

Re: The Pub Crawl:  OOC

Right.  So you're looking at the people in the people in the room...?  Or everyone in Jigow?  Everyone you can see?
Lucidity Velderan
Human Rogue, 154 posts
Crime is common.
Logic is rare.
Tue 23 May 2023
at 10:22
  • msg #737

Re: The Pub Crawl:  OOC

It was in the room.  According to earlier answers, it was unlikely that a thief would have come from the outside.  Barring teleportation, that is.  Or, I suppose, flight plus invisibility.

Ugh.  Magic.
Yawgo
Tortle Druid, 132 posts
Big Shell, Small Size
Spore Druid
Tue 23 May 2023
at 13:19
  • msg #738

Re: The Pub Crawl:  OOC

(checks his shell) I'm good.
Yawgo
Tortle Druid, 133 posts
Big Shell, Small Size
Spore Druid
Tue 23 May 2023
at 15:57
  • msg #739

Re: The Pub Crawl:  OOC

Which tortle? There's 2 in the room.
Lucidity Velderan
Human Rogue, 156 posts
Crime is common.
Logic is rare.
Tue 23 May 2023
at 16:15
  • msg #740

Re: The Pub Crawl:  OOC

That's a reference to you.  I had assumed that you'd come back to the table with Lynn.  But, after checking most of the posts, I cannot verify that.  As far as I can tell, you're painting at a place from which it is decent to watch.
Yawgo
Tortle Druid, 134 posts
Big Shell, Small Size
Spore Druid
Tue 23 May 2023
at 16:48
  • msg #741

Re: The Pub Crawl:  OOC

Lucidity Velderan:
That's a reference to you.  I had assumed that you'd come back to the table with Lynn.  But, after checking most of the posts, I cannot verify that.  As far as I can tell, you're painting at a place from which it is decent to watch.

Yup. Didn't come back to the table but yes I'm watching what is going on.
Lucidity Velderan
Human Rogue, 157 posts
Crime is common.
Logic is rare.
Tue 23 May 2023
at 17:02
  • msg #742

Re: The Pub Crawl:  OOC

Just edited my post to accommodate your position.
Yawgo
Tortle Druid, 136 posts
Big Shell, Small Size
Spore Druid
Tue 23 May 2023
at 20:46
  • msg #743

Re: The Pub Crawl:  OOC

Yawgo: Rafiki/Oogway lol.
Lucidity Velderan
Human Rogue, 159 posts
Crime is common.
Logic is rare.
Wed 24 May 2023
at 00:25
  • msg #744

Re: The Pub Crawl:  OOC

BTW, can I get a description of Dermot?  Race.  Basic build.  Armor.  Oh, and is Dermot wearing a dagger in a sheath?
Lucidity Velderan
Human Rogue, 160 posts
Crime is common.
Logic is rare.
Wed 24 May 2023
at 10:46
  • msg #745

Re: The Pub Crawl:  OOC

I took a look in the previous thread.  Dermot is the yellow-skinned, armored goblin, correct?
Dungeon Master
GM, 499 posts
Wed 24 May 2023
at 11:34
  • msg #746

Re: The Pub Crawl:  OOC

Correct.  He does not have a dagger at his belt. , but he does have a sturdy looking mace, and a light crossbow leans against the wall near his position.
This message was last edited by the GM at 12:16, Wed 24 May 2023.
Lucidity Velderan
Human Rogue, 161 posts
Crime is common.
Logic is rare.
Wed 24 May 2023
at 12:47
  • msg #747

Re: The Pub Crawl:  OOC

Well, at least that completes my notes on who's who.

And, I suppose we should take one further step towards eliminating possible suspicions.  Post coming up within the half hour.
Yawgo
Tortle Druid, 137 posts
Big Shell, Small Size
Spore Druid
Wed 24 May 2023
at 12:59
  • msg #748

Re: The Pub Crawl:  OOC

Shhh. They will never suspect the painting tortle of doom!
Lucidity Velderan
Human Rogue, 162 posts
Crime is common.
Logic is rare.
Wed 24 May 2023
at 13:05
  • msg #749

Re: The Pub Crawl:  OOC

On second thought.  I don't want to derail the current discussion.  I'll place that idea on hold.  But, I will, instead introduce a different idea.
Yawgo
Tortle Druid, 138 posts
Big Shell, Small Size
Spore Druid
Wed 24 May 2023
at 13:15
  • msg #750

Re: The Pub Crawl:  OOC

Personally I don't think anyone present or NPCs stole it. The ones who took it are long gone. Or have it hidden fron all scrying means.
Dungeon Master
GM, 501 posts
Wed 24 May 2023
at 14:38
  • msg #751

Re: The Pub Crawl:  OOC

Yawgo, make an animal handling check with disadvantage.
Lucidity Velderan
Human Rogue, 164 posts
Crime is common.
Logic is rare.
Wed 24 May 2023
at 14:54
  • msg #752

Re: The Pub Crawl:  OOC

Yawgo:
Personally I don't think anyone present or NPCs stole it. The ones who took it are long gone. Or have it hidden fron all scrying means.

I think I know who might have taken it.  <foreheadslap>  Should have caught on long ago.
Yawgo
Tortle Druid, 140 posts
Big Shell, Small Size
Spore Druid
Wed 24 May 2023
at 18:54
  • msg #753

Re: The Pub Crawl:  OOC

Curious, who has a familiar?
Kursak
Half-Goliath Cleric, 214 posts
AC 18 HP 23/23
Vigilant Blessing: Hannah
Wed 24 May 2023
at 19:32
  • msg #754

Re: The Pub Crawl:  OOC

Yawgo:
Curious, who has a familiar?

Kursak and Frilia
Dungeon Master
GM, 503 posts
Thu 25 May 2023
at 01:30
  • msg #755

Re: The Pub Crawl:  OOC

Although Maglynn also has the Find Familiar spell, and Rain has Tyrsoir...

It's quite a pet-heavy game (which is not the same as a heavy-petting game.  ;))
Frilia Silverstring
Gnome Fighter, 245 posts
Thu 25 May 2023
at 01:37
  • msg #756

Re: The Pub Crawl:  OOC

and eventually Hannah will get the spell find steed :D
Yawgo
Tortle Druid, 141 posts
Big Shell, Small Size
Spore Druid
Thu 25 May 2023
at 01:40
  • msg #757

Re: The Pub Crawl:  OOC

Ironically its the druid that doesn't have one lol! The whole nature aspect :)
Kursak
Half-Goliath Cleric, 215 posts
AC 18 HP 23/23
Vigilant Blessing: Hannah
Thu 25 May 2023
at 01:41
  • msg #758

Re: The Pub Crawl:  OOC

All druids get familiars with Tasha's rules, if you're willing to burn a wildshape use to summon it.
Yawgo
Tortle Druid, 142 posts
Big Shell, Small Size
Spore Druid
Thu 25 May 2023
at 01:48
  • msg #759

Re: The Pub Crawl:  OOC

Yeah only get 2/day and have other uses. Plus it only lasts for about 2 hours. Not sure if I can use it with the Tasha rules and will if possible if its needed but having a familiar around all the time makes the most sense if I want to go down that road that is. I know Druids have the ability, just find it to be funny how most in the group have them and I don't lol!
Frilia Silverstring
Gnome Fighter, 247 posts
Thu 25 May 2023
at 01:51
  • msg #760

Re: The Pub Crawl:  OOC

It's only a magic initiate wizard feat away XD
Kursak
Half-Goliath Cleric, 216 posts
AC 18 HP 23/23
Vigilant Blessing: Hannah
Thu 25 May 2023
at 01:55
  • msg #761

Re: The Pub Crawl:  OOC

Wild Shape recharges on a short rest, so a bit more than that. And really, most "time" in a game is handwaved, so 2 hours is significant.
Yawgo
Tortle Druid, 143 posts
Big Shell, Small Size
Spore Druid
Thu 25 May 2023
at 02:14
  • msg #762

Re: The Pub Crawl:  OOC

Frilia Silverstring:
It's only a magic initiate wizard feat away XD

Yeah I talked to the DM bout it :)

Kursak: It depends on the situation, like am I going to need the wildshapes, ect. I also have the spore abilities so I will go through them first.
Dungeon Master
GM, 504 posts
Thu 25 May 2023
at 02:29
  • msg #763

Re: The Pub Crawl:  OOC

Yawgo:
...Not sure if I can use it with the Tasha rules...


You can, absolutely.  The difference is that it only sticks around for a few hours, rather than being always-on like a proper familiar.

That said, we do need to clarify a few things about familiars, so that everyone's on the same page.

As per the spell, Familiars are not animals.  They're spirits, or fey, in the shape of (and with the statistics of) those animals.  This means the rules get a little ambiguous at times.  So here's my take on familiars:
  • Familiars do not need to eat.  They can but do not require it.  They are sustained by the arcane link between the caster and the fmailiar.  As long as the caster is alive and well, the familiar can be present in the Prime Material plane.
  • Familiars do need to sleep.  This is about mental activity -- after a while, it starts to catch up with you.  Going without a long rest can cause exhaustion in mortals, despite how well fed and watered they may be.  Familiars are the same.
    • If they're on the Prime Material plane, they require the same amount of sleep as their caster.  if your familiar is out and about all day, taking in stimulating input, it requires the same level of decompression time to recover.
    • If you familiar is in its pocket dimension for at least two hours continuously, it is considered asleep, and thus gains the benefits of a rest.  I'm not going to time it, or expect you to time it or track it, but if you want your familiar to take your place when setting watch for the evening, this gives you a mechanism to do that -- you just have to pay for it by sacrificing your familiar for a few hours the next day.


Casting Find Familiar takes 1 hour, and requires the expenditure of 10 gold worth of charcoal, incense, and herbs, which must be consumed by fire in a brass brazier.  If you don't have the components for that, you're not re-summoning your familiar (or changing its form) until you do.  Keep that in mind.
Lucidity Velderan
Human Rogue, 168 posts
Crime is common.
Logic is rare.
Thu 25 May 2023
at 04:55
  • msg #764

Re: The Pub Crawl:  OOC

Apologies for the wall of text.  But, best to rip off the bandage at once, and get it all out there.
Yawgo
Tortle Druid, 145 posts
Big Shell, Small Size
Spore Druid
Thu 25 May 2023
at 13:41
  • msg #765

Re: The Pub Crawl:  OOC

The broken dagger is still in the shell right?
Kursak
Half-Goliath Cleric, 217 posts
AC 18 HP 23/23
Vigilant Blessing: Hannah
Thu 25 May 2023
at 14:28
  • msg #766

Re: The Pub Crawl:  OOC

Yawgo:
And its apparent Kursak doesn't understand him either.


Understand you, I did.

Yawgo:
"...Pressuring me you are, not like it at all..."


Except for this part where you felt pressured by us talking to you, and that you didn't like it.

You're giving me mixed signals here, tortle.
Dungeon Master
GM, 505 posts
Thu 25 May 2023
at 16:03
  • msg #767

Re: The Pub Crawl:  OOC

I think that was Yawgo-the-character stating he was feeling pressured (by the whole rapidly-moving situation).  Not Yawgo-the-player feeling pressured by the other players... but I can see how the situation can be misread.

Edit: Yawgo-the-player, please let me know if I've misread or mis-stated anything above here.

quote:
The broken dagger is still in the shell right?


Yes.  No one's removed it, so it is still embedded in the shell.  To be clear, this is NOT Tusk's shell.  Think of the inn like one of those old asian pagoda-style buildings, which look like single-story buildings stacked on top of one another.  This is like that.  The roof of the ground floor of the inn is an old horizonback shell.  The dagger blade is embedded in that roof.
Yawgo
Tortle Druid, 147 posts
Big Shell, Small Size
Spore Druid
Thu 25 May 2023
at 16:07
  • msg #768

Re: The Pub Crawl:  OOC

Yes Yawgo the character not the player.
Hannah Demsersk
Human Paladin, 147 posts
Thu 25 May 2023
at 16:09
  • msg #769

Re: The Pub Crawl:  OOC

is yawgo talking to me or Frilia?
Yawgo
Tortle Druid, 148 posts
Big Shell, Small Size
Spore Druid
Thu 25 May 2023
at 16:11
  • msg #770

Re: The Pub Crawl:  OOC

Hannah Demsersk:
is yawgo talking to me or Frilia?

First was talking to Filia and now you as you seemed 'sad'.
Yawgo
Tortle Druid, 150 posts
Big Shell, Small Size
Spore Druid
Fri 26 May 2023
at 15:45
  • msg #771

Re: The Pub Crawl:  OOC

Just like Jurassic World.
Owen vs Raptors
Dungeon Master
GM, 511 posts
Tue 30 May 2023
at 13:11
  • msg #772

Re: The Pub Crawl:  OOC

So.

What's the plan?  It sounds like everyone's agreed to head to Bazzoxan to investigate the amulet, the visions, and such, but I've learned not to mistake what sounds like for what is -- or to assume everyone's on board.

IF the plan is to go to Bazzoxan, then what's the specific plan?
  • leave immediately and travel with the Wastewalkers?
  • spend the day in Jigow, rest overnight, and head out tomorrow?


Either way, you'll need to restock your provisions.  Minho, Felix, and Shera left with their horses, leaving the rest of you with your mounts.  Maglynn came in with a horse, but Yawgo and Lucy walked.  You'll all need rations and feed for any animals under your care for any journey.

If you (and/or your character) are not particularly interested in this plan to Bazzoxan, now would be the time to speak up in-character (and let me know what your character's plan is, so we can discuss).
Lucidity Velderan
Human Rogue, 176 posts
Crime is common.
Logic is rare.
Tue 30 May 2023
at 14:00
  • msg #773

Re: The Pub Crawl:  OOC

Lucy has a bit more than 25gp in funds.  Not enough to buy a riding horse, let alone supplies.

"Ah have always depended on the kahndness of strangers."
Dungeon Master
GM, 512 posts
Wed 31 May 2023
at 01:17
  • msg #774

Re: The Pub Crawl:  OOC

Something to be discussed with the party.  You can handle that IC or OOC, as you prefer.

Though if you're walking,that's enough for provisions for the journey (though you'd be almost broke afterward).
Kursak
Half-Goliath Cleric, 222 posts
AC 18 HP 23/23
Vigilant Blessing: Hannah
Wed 31 May 2023
at 03:28
  • msg #775

Re: The Pub Crawl:  OOC

We have 3 people in need of a mount. It might be better for us to buy either a cart or a wagon.
Dungeon Master
GM, 513 posts
Wed 31 May 2023
at 03:35
  • msg #776

Re: The Pub Crawl:  OOC

Two people.  Maglynn has a horse.
Lucidity Velderan
Human Rogue, 177 posts
Crime is common.
Logic is rare.
Wed 31 May 2023
at 04:16
  • msg #777

Re: The Pub Crawl:  OOC

If we bought a cart, could Lucy rest in the cart while traveling?  Or, does that sort of thing not count?
Dungeon Master
GM, 514 posts
Wed 31 May 2023
at 05:08
  • msg #778

Re: The Pub Crawl:  OOC

Depends on what happens, doesn't it?

I mean, it should be possible to sleep in the cart.  But for a long rest, it needs to be

quote:
A long rest is a period of extended downtime, at least 8 hours long, during which a character sleeps for at least 6 hours and performs no more than 2 hours of light activity, such as reading, talking, eating, or standing watch. If the rest is interrupted by a period of strenuous activity — at least 1 hour of walking, fighting, casting spells, or similar adventuring activity — the characters must begin the rest again to gain any benefit from it.


It is a multi-day journey to Bazzoxan.  I have no doubt you'll clear that exhaustion before then.
Kursak
Half-Goliath Cleric, 223 posts
AC 18 HP 23/23
Vigilant Blessing: Hannah
Wed 31 May 2023
at 05:38
  • msg #779

Re: The Pub Crawl:  OOC

If it's only a single level of exhaustion, we're not going to be traveling throughout the night, so you don't need to sleep during the travel, you'll be able to do so during the night when the rest of us do the same.
Lucidity Velderan
Human Rogue, 178 posts
Crime is common.
Logic is rare.
Wed 31 May 2023
at 13:01
  • msg #780

Re: The Pub Crawl:  OOC

Thanks to all.  Hard to keep from feeling that I'm not a drag on things.
Yawgo
Tortle Druid, 152 posts
Big Shell, Small Size
Spore Druid
Wed 31 May 2023
at 13:04
  • msg #781

Re: The Pub Crawl:  OOC

Well biggest reason why I don't have a horse-I am about 400 lbs lol. So cart would work.
Lucidity Velderan
Human Rogue, 179 posts
Crime is common.
Logic is rare.
Wed 31 May 2023
at 13:17
  • msg #782

Re: The Pub Crawl:  OOC

Ouch.  You might want to have your blood sugar and cholesterol tested at your next checkup.

But, heh, carts always bring to mind the Bring Out Your Dead scene from Monty Python's Holy Grail.
Lucidity Velderan
Human Rogue, 180 posts
Crime is common.
Logic is rare.
Wed 31 May 2023
at 13:24
  • msg #783

Re: The Pub Crawl:  OOC

Hang on.  I just looked up the 5e description of a cart.  It said that the weight limit is 200 lbs.  More curious than otherwise - because in the end this is all angels dancing on the heads of pins talk - but, do we usually just handwave the weight of the characters riding?  That is to say, is the listed weight intended only to limit gear?
Yawgo
Tortle Druid, 153 posts
Big Shell, Small Size
Spore Druid
Wed 31 May 2023
at 13:34
  • msg #784

Re: The Pub Crawl:  OOC

https://dndclasses.com/tortle/

Average Height:  5-6 ft (1.52-1.82 m)
Average Weight:  450 lb (204 kg)

I'm Small so about 3-4'. But still that's a lot of weight. Even if you knock off 100+ weight its still quite a bit.
Lucidity Velderan
Human Rogue, 181 posts
Crime is common.
Logic is rare.
Wed 31 May 2023
at 13:49
  • msg #785

Re: The Pub Crawl:  OOC

That's a lot of weight.  Gonna need hip and knee replacements early.

It's a wonder that, say, elephants live as long as they do.  Must have something to do with scale.  Gravity having more of an exponential rather than linear effect as mass goes up.
Yawgo
Tortle Druid, 154 posts
Big Shell, Small Size
Spore Druid
Wed 31 May 2023
at 14:03
  • msg #786

Re: The Pub Crawl:  OOC

Well elephants are a lot stronger then Yawgo with a 12 strength lol.

Its the shell. Damn shell. Course I can shell it up lol.

Could be maybe Yawgo doesn't 'feel the weight' but his actual weight is if someone tries to lift him up, ride a horse, ect. Strange indeed.
Yawgo
Tortle Druid, 155 posts
Big Shell, Small Size
Spore Druid
Wed 31 May 2023
at 14:13
  • msg #787

Re: The Pub Crawl:  OOC

https://www.horsefactbook.com/...h-can-a-horse-carry/

So I would need a big horse lol! Good thing Yawgo doesn't mind being 'slow'. He enjoys the scenerary. Mostly.
Lucidity Velderan
Human Rogue, 182 posts
Crime is common.
Logic is rare.
Wed 31 May 2023
at 14:25
  • msg #788

Re: The Pub Crawl:  OOC

Jousting armor of the 15 - 16 century could weight in excess of 100 lbs.  Of course, it wasn't made for melee combat, and movement was cumbersome at best.  That means you got one heck of a heavy shell.

BTW, slow is better for your heart.  Especially as you're lugging around that shell.  Probably why turtles live as long as they can.
Yawgo
Tortle Druid, 156 posts
Big Shell, Small Size
Spore Druid
Wed 31 May 2023
at 14:33
  • msg #789

Re: The Pub Crawl:  OOC

That's turtles. Tortles live 50+ years. So not long. But its up to the DM on how long they live, Could be 100 years, 200 years. Or 20 years.
Lucidity Velderan
Human Rogue, 183 posts
Crime is common.
Logic is rare.
Wed 31 May 2023
at 14:57
  • msg #790

Re: The Pub Crawl:  OOC

Dunno how elves and dwarves make it s'damn long.  Must be magic.
Yawgo
Tortle Druid, 157 posts
Big Shell, Small Size
Spore Druid
Wed 31 May 2023
at 15:01
  • msg #791

Re: The Pub Crawl:  OOC

*looks down at his druid self* Yes! lol
Dungeon Master
GM, 515 posts
Wed 31 May 2023
at 15:21
  • msg #792

Re: The Pub Crawl:  OOC

Lucidity Velderan:
Hang on.  I just looked up the 5e description of a cart.  It said that the weight limit is 200 lbs.  More curious than otherwise - because in the end this is all angels dancing on the heads of pins talk - but, do we usually just handwave the weight of the characters riding?  That is to say, is the listed weight intended only to limit gear?


I think people tend to drastically overestimate the size of a cart.  I know when I started, I thought of a cart as what you see in hollywood fantasy films... something two people could sit on the bench seat, with a load of produce on the back -- and probably one or two people sitting on the back with their legs dangling off as the cart rumbles along the dirt road.

We think of carts like this:


I think that's properly a wagon, and a cart is something like this:


After all, a cart can be pushed/pulled by a single character -- or a small pony or donkey.  If there's room for two horses hitched together, it's a wagon.  It helps me to think of a cart as a wheelbarrow with two wheels.

Looking at the second picture, I'd say 200lbs of cargo is a fair call.  A wagon doubles that capacity to 400lbs..  Again, I'd suggest that's a fair call, and would expect that most people don't carry everything that's in their equipment on their persons all the time.  That's a heavy load for a lot of people.

This brings us to Yawgo.  He's too heavy for a cart (200 lbs. -- he'd bog down the wheels), or a mastiff (195 lbs.).  He'd need a riding horse at minimum (480 lbs.).  A draft horse (540 lbs.) would be better for him.

I'm not going to be draconian about the weight limits, but I'm not going to hand-wave it away either.  When you're trying to ride away from the pyrohydra -- or chase down a fleeing thief -- weight limits are certainly going to matter then.  When you try to push at a faster pace (forced march style, but for mounts), weight's going to matter then, when I start making CON rolls for the animals...
This message was last edited by the GM at 15:22, Wed 31 May 2023.
Lucidity Velderan
Human Rogue, 184 posts
Crime is common.
Logic is rare.
Wed 31 May 2023
at 15:26
  • msg #793

Re: The Pub Crawl:  OOC

Hmm.  And a draft horse is cheaper than a riding horse.
Dungeon Master
GM, 516 posts
Wed 31 May 2023
at 15:34
  • msg #794

Re: The Pub Crawl:  OOC

Probably because the speed is lower (40 ft. vs 60 ft.).  But since you have a pony and mastiff's in the mix... not so much an issue for you guys, I think.
Yawgo
Tortle Druid, 158 posts
Big Shell, Small Size
Spore Druid
Wed 31 May 2023
at 16:08
  • msg #795

Re: The Pub Crawl:  OOC

Keep in mind Yawgo probably doesn't even know how to ride a horse with being a larger size then most. He just walks. Love it how no one even asks Ywwgo about it either. Let's just throw him on a horse and see how that goes. He'll probably break the horses back or get thrown off lol.

Damn Yawgo.

We can keep talking about it OOCly if you want but I doun't think anyone has the money for horses. Could be wrong. I don't think most of use has horses. Again could be wrong.
Lucidity Velderan
Human Rogue, 185 posts
Crime is common.
Logic is rare.
Wed 31 May 2023
at 16:14
  • msg #796

Re: The Pub Crawl:  OOC

That's probably because we haven't even gotten to that issue in character.  No one's asked Lucidity either.  And, though, Lucy doesn't have enough money for a riding horse, she does have enough for a mule.  A mule and a cart.  Though, then she wouldn't have enough for food and water.  Not to mention a bedroll.  And she has no need for the cart either, TTYTT.
Yawgo
Tortle Druid, 159 posts
Big Shell, Small Size
Spore Druid
Wed 31 May 2023
at 16:50
  • msg #797

Re: The Pub Crawl:  OOC

Lucidity Velderan:
That's probably because we haven't even gotten to that issue in character.  No one's asked Lucidity either.  And, though, Lucy doesn't have enough money for a riding horse, she does have enough for a mule.  A mule and a cart.  Though, then she wouldn't have enough for food and water.  Not to mention a bedroll.  And she has no need for the cart either, TTYTT.

I got Goodberries lol!

Self-replicator haha.
Lucidity Velderan
Human Rogue, 186 posts
Crime is common.
Logic is rare.
Wed 31 May 2023
at 17:18
  • msg #798

Re: The Pub Crawl:  OOC

Lucidity Velderan:  "Tea.  Earl Gray.  Hot."
Yawgo
Tortle Druid, 160 posts
Big Shell, Small Size
Spore Druid
Wed 31 May 2023
at 17:23
  • msg #799

Re: The Pub Crawl:  OOC

Okay Picard.
Lucidity Velderan
Human Rogue, 187 posts
Crime is common.
Logic is rare.
Wed 31 May 2023
at 17:35
  • msg #800

Re: The Pub Crawl:  OOC

Seriously, though. Do you want to be spending a spell slot on Goodberries everyday?
Yawgo
Tortle Druid, 161 posts
Big Shell, Small Size
Spore Druid
Wed 31 May 2023
at 17:39
  • msg #801

Re: The Pub Crawl:  OOC

Why not? Its a useful spell.

'Up to ten berries appear in your hand and are infused with magic for the duration. A creature can use its action to eat one berry. Eating a berry restores 1 hit point, and the berry provides enough nourishment to sustain a creature for one day.

The berries lose their potency if they have not been consumed within 24 hours of the casting of this spell.'

So I cast the spell, give each person a berry and they don't need food for 24 hours.
Lucidity Velderan
Human Rogue, 188 posts
Crime is common.
Logic is rare.
Wed 31 May 2023
at 17:57
  • msg #802

Re: The Pub Crawl:  OOC

Sounds good.  Thank you.

BTW, do we need a cart then?  Any extra gear to haul?  If not, Lucy can do with a mule.  And maybe some of the extra can go toward a draft horse for Yawgo.  If he wants to ride.

Probably would be a good idea, Yawgo.  Otherwise we'll be limited to your pace.
Yawgo
Tortle Druid, 162 posts
Big Shell, Small Size
Spore Druid
Wed 31 May 2023
at 18:01
  • msg #803

Re: The Pub Crawl:  OOC

Well he would have to be convince ICly and taught how to ride.Kinda curious DN what kind of animals are around like in the woods or whatnot?
Frilia Silverstring
Gnome Fighter, 249 posts
Wed 31 May 2023
at 22:57
  • msg #804

Re: The Pub Crawl:  OOC

Given a choice, I'm Yawgo would take a horizonback for a mount lol

For the goodberries, you castit right before a long rest, feed everyone and then you regain your spell slot... one level 1 spell slot is often left at the end of the day, unless it was a really bad combat day that drained all the resources
Dungeon Master
GM, 517 posts
Wed 31 May 2023
at 23:11
  • msg #805

Re: The Pub Crawl:  OOC

While Yawgo's not proficient in Animal Handling, he does have a natural aptitude for it (maxed out Wisdom score).  I'm sure he could be taught to ride within a day.

Animals in the woods?  In general, or in the wastes of Xhorhas?  Why do you ask (so I know how best to answer your question)?
Lucidity Velderan
Human Rogue, 189 posts
Crime is common.
Logic is rare.
Thu 1 Jun 2023
at 00:31
  • msg #806

Re: The Pub Crawl:  OOC

BTW, I assume that we're waiting for a buy in from Lynn.  Just wanted to make the request that we not move on too quickly after she replies.  Lucy would like to ask a few more questions of Elder Ushru before then.  She's been waiting for the Wastewalkers to leave before asking.

If you'd like to move things along more quickly, the questions involve: the name of the scholar from Ank'horel.  I notice that Ushru has not mentioned that yet.  Though, I cannot imagine that there would be too many scholars from Ank'horel in Bazzoxan.  That information alone might identify the right person.  And some details of where he heard about this scholar, and who from.  Some of this information might help us get a jump on finding this scholar.  Legwork that we won't have to do once we arrive in Bazzoxan.
Dungeon Master
GM, 518 posts
Thu 1 Jun 2023
at 00:44
  • msg #807

Re: The Pub Crawl:  OOC

He *did* give the scholar's name, though you probably didn't recognise it as a name.  As for the rest, do you want to ask in character, or do you want an OOC infodump?

For the rest of the rest, I'm waiting on you to guys to confirm the plan.  Leave now?  Wait and leave tomorrow?  Logistics around how to get there?  There's been talk, but no actual decision as yet.
This message was last edited by the GM at 00:57, Thu 01 June 2023.
Lucidity Velderan
Human Rogue, 190 posts
Crime is common.
Logic is rare.
Thu 1 Jun 2023
at 00:52
  • msg #808

Re: The Pub Crawl:  OOC

Ah.  I did notice that, and wondered whether that's what the capital letter was for.
Dungeon Master
GM, 519 posts
Sat 3 Jun 2023
at 05:38
  • msg #809

Re: The Pub Crawl:  OOC

Prompt:  For the rest of the rest, I'm waiting on you to guys to confirm the plan.  Leave now?  Wait and leave tomorrow?  Logistics around how to get there?  There's been talk, but no actual decision as yet.
Maglynn Othronus
Elf Warlock, 27 posts
Scholar & Seeker
Sat 3 Jun 2023
at 06:18
  • msg #810

Re: The Pub Crawl:  OOC

Well Lynn literally has her bags with her and has just eaten breakfast!
Rain
Tabaxi Ranger, 227 posts
Sat 3 Jun 2023
at 10:53
  • msg #811

Re: The Pub Crawl:  OOC

Rain is always ready to move - she's a ranger
Lucidity Velderan
Human Rogue, 191 posts
Crime is common.
Logic is rare.
Sat 3 Jun 2023
at 13:14
  • msg #812

Re: The Pub Crawl:  OOC

Allow me to offer some specifics.  If we leave now, Lucy will need time to purchase a mule.  Purchase feed for the mule for six to eight days.  Even if we subsist on Yawgo's berries (wait, that didn't sound good) Lucy will still wish to purchase at least one day's worth of rations.  That does not strike me as taking up a lot of time.

The key question is:  Will further travel today deepen Lucy's exhaustion such that a full night's sleep tonight will not allow her to recover.  Based on that answer, I propose two plans.

1) We do a quick provisioning, then leave.  Maybe we camp early, but at least we're on the road.
2) We spend a leisurely day provisioning.  Maybe ask around as to the dangers of the road to Bazzaxon.  It may even be a good idea to follow the same route that the Wastewalkers took.  The Emerald Loop.  If there are any dangers ahead, they may have taken care of them by the time we get there.  We research more about Bazzaxon in particular.  The scholar in specific.  Call this a provisioning and research day.  Then we leave fresh tomorrow morning.

Another question is land speed.  If you're tying travel time to land speed, GM, then we'll need a decision from Yawgo as to the purchase of a mount.  Otherwise, I think I'll skip the mule for Lucy.  And, if Yawgo decides not to go for a mount, I think I'll do the same for Lucy.  Save a few GP for future expenses.  It'll be the same 30ft per.

So, there are some more concrete decisions to weigh in on.  And some questions yet to answer.

Also, I'm waiting in game for the Wastewalkers to leave.  I have some questions for Elder Ushru, and would prefer that they were not present for the asking.  Also some things, I'd like to discuss with the Blades about the Wastewalkers.

Or, I suppose, this is the time to ask whether the Wastewalkers would be willing to wait so that we could all go together.  Does anyone want to propose that IC?  Lucy could conceivably do so, but I'd also like to get everyone's thoughts OoC before doing that.
This message was last edited by the player at 13:17, Sat 03 June 2023.
Dungeon Master
GM, 520 posts
Sat 3 Jun 2023
at 13:42
  • msg #813

Re: The Pub Crawl:  OOC

Specifics are exactly what I'm after.  it's one thing to say "I'm ready to go" and another thing to say "I'm leaving now."  Ask any parent to verify.  ;)

I am tying travel time to land speed, absolutely.  So the question of mounts is pertinent.

Regarding the exhaustion question: under normal ordinary circumstances (so leaving room for extraordinary & unusual circumstances), you clear one level of exhaustion with each long rest.  Get a good night's sleep (whenever that is) and your exhaustion should be gone tomorrow.  If you're in extreme weather conditions (blizzard, desert), participating in extreme sports level activity (swimming against a current for a long time, participating in the forced march (travel for more than 8 hrs per day) and failing a con save in the process, or suffering the effects of starvation by going without food can all trigger an exhaustion level.

Traveling, resupplying, even combat would not make your exhaustion worse at this point (note that even in the event of combat, your attack rolls and saving throws are NOT at disadvantage.  It's only Ability Checks at this point).  Pushing yourselves beyond your limits is what triggers each level of exhaustion.

All the rest sounds like IC stuff to ask or consider.  Ayo asked the Wastewalkers to be ready to go in half an hour.  She said she means to set a strong pace (which is why I'm betting you're asking about exhaustion) -- but no one's thought to ask what "a strong pace" might mean.  ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

I can appreciate you're waiting for the Wastewalkers to leave to ask some more questions.  In my next post, they'll definitely be out of the common room.  What I'm waiting for is the OOC plan from you guys, so I can prep the next stages.
Frilia Silverstring
Gnome Fighter, 251 posts
Sat 3 Jun 2023
at 15:05
  • msg #814

Re: The Pub Crawl:  OOC

Frilia won't mind waiting a day and shopping if the newcomers want to buy stuff, or she can go now too. It depends on the needs, she just needs food for herself and the dogs. Maybe a small hooded lantern and a cast from Kursak of eternal flame in it, a level 2 cleric spell, that resolves the torch question.

Yawgo walking or riding, she will ride her mastiff anyway.
Dungeon Master
GM, 521 posts
Sat 3 Jun 2023
at 15:58
  • msg #815

Re: The Pub Crawl:  OOC

Assuming Kursak has a ruby worth 50 gp...  I do pay attention to the material components for spells.

Considering you have no rations or feed for the dogs, you'll probably want to go shopping for provisions.
This message was last edited by the GM at 16:00, Sat 03 June 2023.
Lucidity Velderan
Human Rogue, 192 posts
Crime is common.
Logic is rare.
Sat 3 Jun 2023
at 17:48
  • msg #816

Re: The Pub Crawl:  OOC

Let me propose another question, this time to the players.  How do you feel about the Wastewalkers?  Do you want to travel with them?  If so, I'll try to start negotiations to travel together IC.

I haven't read much of the previous threads, and I'm not sure how you feel about them.  Or, they about you, for that matter.  Though, I get the feeling that they have no particular affection for you.  Maybe a certain amount of respect, but little more.
Frilia Silverstring
Gnome Fighter, 252 posts
Sat 3 Jun 2023
at 19:44
  • msg #817

Re: The Pub Crawl:  OOC

Personnaly I would let them go their own way and if Chad wants to put them in our path again, he will. We didn't know them at all before that contest business, heck we invented the name of our group because the contest required one.
Yawgo
Tortle Druid, 164 posts
Big Shell, Small Size
Spore Druid
Sat 3 Jun 2023
at 23:32
  • msg #818

Re: The Pub Crawl:  OOC

Don't trust them. One even stated I believe Frilia was a thief or some such stating they should have kept the amulet and spear together.
ICly I don't know them. The tortle intrigues me but that's really it.
Lucidity Velderan
Human Rogue, 193 posts
Crime is common.
Logic is rare.
Sat 3 Jun 2023
at 23:42
  • msg #819

Re: The Pub Crawl:  OOC

Good enough.  Then Lucy will remain silent until after the Wastewalkers leave.
Lucidity Velderan
Human Rogue, 194 posts
Crime is common.
Logic is rare.
Sun 4 Jun 2023
at 05:38
  • msg #820

Re: The Pub Crawl:  OOC

So, looks to me as though the lean is toward leaving tomorrow.  We've got one vote from Frilia for that option.  Hannah has had thoughts indicating that she thinks it's a shame to be moved to a new location so soon.

If we do stay here a day, I recommend doing some research.  Maybe spread out and find out as much about the following key things.

Bazzoxan.
The Betrayer's Rise.
Alyxian and the manner of his sacrifice.
The amulet.  Though I don't think we'll find out much there.
The Emerald Loop.  If that's the road we're going to take to get to Bazzoxan, it may be best to find out as much as we can about it before leaving.  The way that Ayo said the name makes it sound like a common, well known road to Bazzoxan.
Dungeon Master
GM, 522 posts
Sun 4 Jun 2023
at 23:41
  • msg #821

Re: The Pub Crawl:  OOC

So.  Is that the plan (leave tomorrow)?
Lucidity Velderan
Human Rogue, 195 posts
Crime is common.
Logic is rare.
Sun 4 Jun 2023
at 23:45
  • msg #822

Re: The Pub Crawl:  OOC

Could you specify the kind of answer that you're expecting?  Up or down vote from each player?  60% buy in?  Yeah or nay, with those who don't answer being automatic Yeah?

Regardless, I'll vote yeah on leave tomorrow.
This message was last edited by the player at 23:46, Sun 04 June 2023.
Maglynn Othronus
Elf Warlock, 28 posts
Scholar & Seeker
Mon 5 Jun 2023
at 00:01
  • msg #823

Re: The Pub Crawl:  OOC

Lynn has no accommodation so would happily leave immediately.
Dungeon Master
GM, 523 posts
Mon 5 Jun 2023
at 00:13
  • msg #824

Re: The Pub Crawl:  OOC

It's a yes/no question, so pretty much, a yes or a no.  Silence is a default agreement.

@Lynn, roughly half the inn's occupants are about to walk out and leave town.  :)
Dungeon Master
GM, 526 posts
Tue 6 Jun 2023
at 11:56
  • msg #825

Re: The Pub Crawl:  OOC

Okay, so how do you want to plan for the journey?

Question #1: transportation for Yawgo and Lucy.  Are you guys walking?  Purchasing a mount?
Lucidity Velderan
Human Rogue, 196 posts
Crime is common.
Logic is rare.
Tue 6 Jun 2023
at 13:01
  • msg #826

Re: The Pub Crawl:  OOC

In reply to Dungeon Master (msg # 825):

I'll base my reply on Yawgo's decision.  I can go either way.  But, if he's not going to buy a mount, might as well save the few GP that would otherwise go towards that mule.  Didn't start out with much in the way of funds.  Must conserve to the greatest extent possible.  At least for a while.
Yawgo
Tortle Druid, 167 posts
Big Shell, Small Size
Spore Druid
Tue 6 Jun 2023
at 23:08
  • msg #827

Re: The Pub Crawl:  OOC

Well only got 5 gold so no mount unless someone wants to get him a big mount lol!
Dungeon Master
GM, 527 posts
Tue 6 Jun 2023
at 23:12
  • msg #828

Re: The Pub Crawl:  OOC

Rain's just dropped belt pouches with 630 gold on the table to split up.  I'm leaving it to the party to decide how to do it, but it does seem like a neat solution to the problem at hand.
Yawgo
Tortle Druid, 169 posts
Big Shell, Small Size
Spore Druid
Wed 7 Jun 2023
at 12:54
  • msg #829

Re: The Pub Crawl:  OOC

Well convincing Yawgo to take it is easier said then done. Not that I want to cause problems or whatnot. I mean if someone bought him a horse and gave it to him, that's different lol. Plus he just met the group so he doesn't feel its fair for him to 'take a share'.
Lucidity Velderan
Human Rogue, 200 posts
Crime is common.
Logic is rare.
Wed 7 Jun 2023
at 13:43
  • msg #830

Re: The Pub Crawl:  OOC

By sheer coincidence, 630gp divided by seven characters comes to an even 90gp each.  90 should cover the cost of a horse and rations for rider and animal, I'd think.

Though, if we're restricted to a slower pace anyway, is there any point in springing for a horse vs, say, a mule?  Are there any advantages that I'm not seeing?
Yawgo
Tortle Druid, 170 posts
Big Shell, Small Size
Spore Druid
Wed 7 Jun 2023
at 13:47
  • msg #831

Re: The Pub Crawl:  OOC

Lucidity Velderan:
By sheer coincidence, 630gp divided by seven characters comes to an even 90gp each.  90 should cover the cost of a horse and rations for rider and animal, I'd think.

Though, if we're restricted to a slower pace anyway, is there any point in springing for a horse vs, say, a mule?  Are there any advantages that I'm not seeing?

Yawgo won't take it as he didn't earn it nor not sure where the money came from. Plus he just met Rain so he finds it to be rather odd. Its all IC. I understand OOC views on it but heck if someone walks up to me, we just met and gave me 90 gold I would find it to be very odd.
Lucidity Velderan
Human Rogue, 201 posts
Crime is common.
Logic is rare.
Wed 7 Jun 2023
at 14:04
  • msg #832

Re: The Pub Crawl:  OOC

I hear you.  Seems strange and potentially a little skeevy to me too.  Fortunately, in Lucy's case, she has the urgency of her backstory to force her to accept good fortune where she can.  I wasn't expecting that.  But, it works out rather nicely in the end.
Dungeon Master
GM, 529 posts
Thu 8 Jun 2023
at 05:52
  • msg #833

Re: The Pub Crawl:  OOC

Do me a favour, everyone.  So that we don't end up double-deducting from character sheets... if you spend gold, use an arrow, consume a ration, etc., please let me know in an OOC comment your post if you've already managed it on your dndbeyond character sheet.

If you don't, I'll assume you haven't, and I'll do it for you.
Maglynn Othronus
Elf Warlock, 31 posts
Scholar & Seeker
Thu 8 Jun 2023
at 06:16
  • msg #834

Re: The Pub Crawl:  OOC

Every gold Lynn has spent I have deducted from DDB.

Please don't make her more broke than she is
Dungeon Master
GM, 531 posts
Thu 8 Jun 2023
at 06:40
  • msg #835

Re: The Pub Crawl:  OOC

Precisely why I'm asking everyone to call it out as it happens.  Some people (like me) pay meticulous attention to their character sheets and update it with virtually every post.  Some players only touch the character sheet when they get to level up.  I need a way to separate the former from the latter, and if you tell me you've deducted a gold from the sheet, then I know I don't have to.  :)
Maglynn Othronus
Elf Warlock, 32 posts
Scholar & Seeker
Thu 8 Jun 2023
at 08:04
  • msg #836

Re: The Pub Crawl:  OOC

I'll always keep my sheet up to date (well I'm sure I'll forget occasionally).  I figure the DM has enough to do, I can handle maintaining a single character!
Lucidity Velderan
Human Rogue, 202 posts
Crime is common.
Logic is rare.
Thu 8 Jun 2023
at 10:06
  • msg #837

Re: The Pub Crawl:  OOC

Did you just deduct the gold from Lucy's Beyond?  Normally, I would do as Lynn does.  But, in this case, I was not sure what sort of room I would be getting before your DM post, so I held off.
Dungeon Master
GM, 532 posts
Thu 8 Jun 2023
at 10:17
  • msg #838

Re: The Pub Crawl:  OOC

No.  You still have the same amount as the last time I checked (more than 24h ago).

[Private to Lucidity Velderan: I have you down for:
* 2 platinum
* 5 gold
* 10 silver
* 6 copper
]
Lucidity Velderan
Human Rogue, 203 posts
Crime is common.
Logic is rare.
Thu 8 Jun 2023
at 11:25
  • msg #839

Re: The Pub Crawl:  OOC

Thanks.  Just deducted the 1 gp for the room.
Yawgo
Tortle Druid, 172 posts
Big Shell, Small Size
Spore Druid
Thu 8 Jun 2023
at 18:05
  • msg #840

Re: The Pub Crawl:  OOC

*curls up in his shell and goes to sleep*
Lucidity Velderan
Human Rogue, 207 posts
Crime is common.
Logic is rare.
Thu 8 Jun 2023
at 18:33
  • msg #841

Re: The Pub Crawl:  OOC

*brings out magic marker and a mischievous smile*
Dungeon Master
GM, 537 posts
Sun 11 Jun 2023
at 05:26
  • msg #842

Re: The Pub Crawl:  OOC

Okay, so Rain's agreed (off-rpol, on-discord) to split the 630 gold 7 ways.

That's 90 gold apiece
  • except for Yawgo, who initially refused to accept it.
  • and for Lucy who took Yawgo's portion with the promise to spend it to his benefit.

I have modified all your character sheets accordingly.

If you'll let me know here what you intend to purchase, I'll tell you how much it will cost.  Most things will cost the same price listed in the Player's Handbook, with the following exceptions due to location:
  • foodstuffs (rations, animal feed), and leather (non-studded variety) or hide armour costs 10% less here
  • metalwork (most weapons/armour) costs 5% more here

Lucidity Velderan
Human Rogue, 210 posts
Crime is common.
Logic is rare.
Sun 11 Jun 2023
at 11:49
  • msg #843

Re: The Pub Crawl:  OOC

Here is Lucy's initial list of purchases.  This may change after Yawgo's return.

8 day's Rations  4gp
Cart 15gp
Mule 8gp
8 day's Feed for mule .4 gp
Set of Paints 10gp
Dungeon Master
GM, 538 posts
Sun 11 Jun 2023
at 14:10
  • msg #844

Re: The Pub Crawl:  OOC

I would encourage everyone to look over your inventory when planning your purchases.  Some of you are missing things which will make sleeping rough on the road more bearable -- bedrolls, blankets, mess kits, etc..
Yawgo
Tortle Druid, 176 posts
Big Shell, Small Size
Spore Druid
Sun 11 Jun 2023
at 15:00
  • msg #845

Re: The Pub Crawl:  OOC

I got goodberry memorized so that's food for 10 people. 1 berry is enough food for 24 hours.

Got a bedroll and blankets, as well as a mess kit as well as a waterskinn. Got spells to fill it so I'm good.
Lucidity Velderan
Human Rogue, 211 posts
Crime is common.
Logic is rare.
Sun 11 Jun 2023
at 15:14
  • msg #846

Re: The Pub Crawl:  OOC

Revised list.

8 day's Rations  4gp
Cart 15gp
Mule 8gp
8 day's Feed for mule .4 gp
Set of Paints 10gp
Bedroll 1gp
Mess Kit .2gp
Waterskin .2gp
Tinderbox .5gp
Frilia Silverstring
Gnome Fighter, 255 posts
Sun 11 Jun 2023
at 15:43
  • msg #847

Re: The Pub Crawl:  OOC

I'll look when I get to my computer
Rain
Tabaxi Ranger, 233 posts
Mon 12 Jun 2023
at 04:53
  • msg #848

Re: The Pub Crawl:  OOC

Rain will buy the following

Rations - 10 days worth (5GP)
Blanket
Meat for Tyrsior (5P)
Hannah Demsersk
Human Paladin, 151 posts
Mon 12 Jun 2023
at 08:46
  • msg #849

Re: The Pub Crawl:  OOC

Hannah will simply buy:

Rations - 10 days worth (5GP)
Feed - 10 days worth (45CP)
Yawgo
Tortle Druid, 177 posts
Big Shell, Small Size
Spore Druid
Mon 12 Jun 2023
at 13:39
  • msg #850

Re: The Pub Crawl:  OOC

Isn't there a spell that can be used to find out someones location if you have a object of theres or am I thinking of something else? I was thinking with Locate Object and the piece of the dagger can use the ability to find out the 'owner'. Probably a dumb idea but could work.
Lucidity Velderan
Human Rogue, 212 posts
Crime is common.
Logic is rare.
Mon 12 Jun 2023
at 13:54
  • msg #851

Re: The Pub Crawl:  OOC

There's a saying that speaks to that.  How does that go?  If it's dumb, but it works it isn't dumb?
Yawgo
Tortle Druid, 178 posts
Big Shell, Small Size
Spore Druid
Mon 12 Jun 2023
at 14:04
  • msg #852

Re: The Pub Crawl:  OOC

Lucidity Velderan:
There's a saying that speaks to that.  How does that go?  If it's dumb, but it works it isn't dumb?

Well the idea isn't dumb.
Dungeon Master
GM, 540 posts
Mon 12 Jun 2023
at 14:12
  • msg #853

Re: The Pub Crawl:  OOC

Yawgo:
Isn't there a spell that can be used to find out someones location if you have a object of theres or am I thinking of something else? I was thinking with Locate Object and the piece of the dagger can use the ability to find out the 'owner'. Probably a dumb idea but could work.


You might be thinking of Scrying -- a 5th level spell.
Yawgo
Tortle Druid, 179 posts
Big Shell, Small Size
Spore Druid
Mon 12 Jun 2023
at 14:16
  • msg #854

Re: The Pub Crawl:  OOC

Dungeon Master:
Yawgo:
Isn't there a spell that can be used to find out someones location if you have a object of theres or am I thinking of something else? I was thinking with Locate Object and the piece of the dagger can use the ability to find out the 'owner'. Probably a dumb idea but could work.


You might be thinking of Scrying -- a 5th level spell.

That doesn't really work IMO. It states a specific person. If we don't know who the dagger belongs to, scrying won't work no? Creature or location. Not who the dagger belongs to.

https://www.dndbeyond.com/spells/scrying
Dungeon Master
GM, 543 posts
Mon 12 Jun 2023
at 14:22
  • msg #855

Re: The Pub Crawl:  OOC

In this case, you'd be attempting to Scry on the person the other part of the blade belongs to -- it would give the person attempting to resist a scrying attempt a -4 modifier to their save.

ConnectionSave Modifier
Likeness or picture-2
Possession or garment-4
Body part, lock of hair, bit of nail, or the like-10


Not a location spell, as you describe, but the closest thing in the books I can thing of.  Might be something an enterprising character might research and try to accomplish on their own (homebrew).

Other than that, you'd be looking at Locate Object
This message was last edited by the GM at 14:24, Mon 12 June 2023.
Yawgo
Tortle Druid, 181 posts
Big Shell, Small Size
Spore Druid
Mon 12 Jun 2023
at 14:44
  • msg #856

Re: The Pub Crawl:  OOC

Oh didn't see that part, my bad. Locate Object might work since well I got part of the blade. Bit iffy. Its worth a try at least. Doubt any of us can use Scry. Maybe the Elder if he has wizard levels but don't know.
Dungeon Master
GM, 544 posts
Mon 12 Jun 2023
at 23:39
  • msg #857

Re: The Pub Crawl:  OOC

Dungeon Master:
Okay, so Rain's agreed (off-rpol, on-discord) to split the 630 gold 7 ways.

That's 90 gold apiece
  • except for Yawgo, who initially refused to accept it.
  • and for Lucy who took Yawgo's portion with the promise to spend it to his benefit.

I have modified all your character sheets accordingly.

If you'll let me know here what you intend to purchase, I'll tell you how much it will cost.  Most things will cost the same price listed in the Player's Handbook, with the following exceptions due to location:
  • foodstuffs (rations, animal feed), and leather (non-studded variety) or hide armour costs 10% less here
  • metalwork (most weapons/armour) costs 5% more here


Waiting on any purchases from Frilia, Kursak, and Maglynn...
Frilia Silverstring
Gnome Fighter, 256 posts
Tue 13 Jun 2023
at 01:55
  • msg #858

Re: The Pub Crawl:  OOC

One full quiver of arrows, plus replenish those that were used in my actual quiver (so 2 full quivers)
10 days of feed for the mastifs
10 days of food for Frilia
brass brazier and the 2X herbs for find familliar (just in case)
Dungeon Master
GM, 545 posts
Tue 13 Jun 2023
at 05:00
  • msg #859

Re: The Pub Crawl:  OOC

You already have a brazier in your pack, but I'll add the incense and other material components to your list of purchases.
Kursak
Half-Goliath Cleric, 224 posts
AC 18 HP 23/23
Vigilant Blessing: Hannah
Tue 13 Jun 2023
at 06:34
  • msg #860

Re: The Pub Crawl:  OOC

Hopefully we have a chance to scavenge some food for the animals along the way as well, or that's going to get real expensive and require us to take vehicles a lot more just to carry the food for them to get us from place to place.

10x Rations
10x Feed for horse
2x Healer's kit

We might want to consider buying either a wagon or a couple of carts, strictly to carry the horses' feed around, with the intent to either sell the vehicles along the way as we consume the feed, or to sell them to get some amount of coin back as we're able to consolidate into fewer vehicles.
Rain
Tabaxi Ranger, 234 posts
Tue 13 Jun 2023
at 07:12
  • msg #861

Re: The Pub Crawl:  OOC

i'll also buy some food for the pony
Dungeon Master
GM, 546 posts
Tue 13 Jun 2023
at 08:06
  • msg #862

Re: The Pub Crawl:  OOC

Kursak:
We might want to consider buying either a wagon or a couple of carts, strictly to carry the horses' feed around, with the intent to either sell the vehicles along the way as we consume the feed, or to sell them to get some amount of coin back as we're able to consolidate into fewer vehicles.


That's a good point.  All of you with horses (Frilia, Hannah, Kursak, Maglynn) would have riding saddles and saddlebags.  There are no guidelines in the PHB or the DMG on what the capacity of saddlebags are, but a google search told me it's generally less than a backpack's worth.  I'm going to bedn the rules here and say it's twice what a backpack can carry (basically a backpack on either side of the horse, so that gives you 60 lbs. worth of space to place with -- not enough for an 8-day journey (let alone 8 days + contingency), so a wagon or cart (which Lucy has already flagged in her purchases) could help.

Rain's pack saddle is a little different -- there is some indication officially that the limit on a pack saddle is basically what the animal can carry.  The trade-off here is that Animal Handling checks while riding with a pack saddle are at disadvantage.
Yawgo
Tortle Druid, 182 posts
Big Shell, Small Size
Spore Druid
Tue 13 Jun 2023
at 12:19
  • msg #863

Re: The Pub Crawl:  OOC

*coughs* Goodberry.

I can use goodberry. Makes 10 berries. Enough food for 10 people for 24 hours.
This message was last edited by the player at 12:20, Tue 13 June 2023.
Yawgo
Tortle Druid, 184 posts
Big Shell, Small Size
Spore Druid
Tue 13 Jun 2023
at 14:05
  • msg #864

Re: The Pub Crawl:  OOC

So Yawgo thinks if the amulet was not taken from where it was found, no one would be looking for it and it would not have been 'stolen'. Thinks greed was part of it lol. He doesn't understand the way a adventurer thinks, just goes with the flow and speaks up if he needs to. Not trying to cause a tiff :) He's telling the group it was a bad idea without telling them it was a bad idea, course if they didn't take this it wouldn't have happened and no one would have met Yawgo. Confusing ain't it?
Lucidity Velderan
Human Rogue, 214 posts
Crime is common.
Logic is rare.
Tue 13 Jun 2023
at 14:13
  • msg #865

Re: The Pub Crawl:  OOC

Yawgo:
*coughs* Goodberry.

I can use goodberry. Makes 10 berries. Enough food for 10 people for 24 hours.

The reason I haven't factored the Goodberries into Lucy's planning is because they haven't been brought up IC.  There's no way of knowing that Yawgo is willing to offer that service.  Hopefully, my most recent post will give you the opportunity to bring that up, Yawgo.
Yawgo
Tortle Druid, 186 posts
Big Shell, Small Size
Spore Druid
Tue 13 Jun 2023
at 14:32
  • msg #866

Re: The Pub Crawl:  OOC

Lucidity Velderan:
Yawgo:
*coughs* Goodberry.

I can use goodberry. Makes 10 berries. Enough food for 10 people for 24 hours.

The reason I haven't factored the Goodberries into Lucy's planning is because they haven't been brought up IC.  There's no way of knowing that Yawgo is willing to offer that service.  Hopefully, my most recent post will give you the opportunity to bring that up, Yawgo.

Actually you didn't bring it up but anyways it will come up at some point when Yawgo just eats a berry and that's it lol.

Playing Yawgo is pretty tough to be honest. Something different.
Dungeon Master
GM, 547 posts
Tue 13 Jun 2023
at 14:37
  • msg #867

Re: The Pub Crawl:  OOC

I, like many (bot clearly not all) have reservations about goodberry and how it's often used in-game.  So it might be worth mentioning how Goodberry work in my worlds.  I'm not nerfing the spell, but I am imposing some limitations on the way the spell is used.

Goodberry has two basic functions as a spell:
  • Survivability -- it replaces the need for rations
  • Healing -- it's a cheap low-level out-of-combat healing spell.


I've not issues or concern with the survivability part of the spell, but I've seen the healing aspect taken advantage abused time and time again.

Assume Yawgo has used the spell before, and is familiar with how it works in my Exandria.

PHB, p246.:
Goodberry
1st-level transmutation
Casting Time: 1 action
Range: Touch
Components: V, S, M (a sprig of mistletoe)
Duration: Instantaneous

Up to ten berries appear in your hand and are infused with magic for the duration.  A creature can use its action to eat one berry.  Eating a berry restores 1 hit point, and the berry provides enough nourishment to sustain a creature for one day.

The berries lose their potency if they have not been consumed within 24 hours of the casting of this spell.


1) Goodberries are not tiny little things.  They're at least fist-sized.  Did you know tomatoes are actually berries?  Goodberries are tomato-sized, grown with magic to be the prime size they are, packed with nutrients to allow someone to subsist on a single goodberry for a whole day.  This also supports the rule that it takes a round (6 seconds) to eat one.  You're not scarfing whole handfuls of berries at once.

2) With Goodberries being the size that they are, you're not going to be eating 150 of them to regain 150hp.  Or even 50.  Or even 10.  You can eat one, maybe two, per day.  After that, you've gorged yourself and cannot eat any more for the remainder of the day.

The spell still does everything it says it does -- provides nourishment (food, not water) for a whole day, and heals for 1hp when it's eaten.  The berries last for 24 hours.  but you can't use it as a replacement for Cure Wounds -- or Prayer of Healing -- or any of the other healing spells available.  There's a reason those spells exist; they're generally more effective.

Also note, I am requiring material components to be available for spells.  A sprig of mistletoe is not hard to come by (and I assume Yawgo has one in his possession), but watch out for fire!
This message was last edited by the GM at 23:02, Tue 13 June 2023.
Yawgo
Tortle Druid, 187 posts
Big Shell, Small Size
Spore Druid
Wed 14 Jun 2023
at 20:05
  • msg #868

Re: The Pub Crawl:  OOC

*Freezes goodberries and launches them at people*
Yawgo
Tortle Druid, 188 posts
Big Shell, Small Size
Spore Druid
Thu 15 Jun 2023
at 13:13
  • msg #869

Re: The Pub Crawl:  OOC

I didn't realize I can actually cast Locate Object.
Lucidity Velderan
Human Rogue, 216 posts
Crime is common.
Logic is rare.
Thu 15 Jun 2023
at 13:57
  • msg #870

Re: The Pub Crawl:  OOC

Hannah Demsersk:
OOC Anyone wanna go halves on a carriage/cart? like one of those big ones from cowboy movies.


Cowboy?  You mean a Conestoga wagon?  Like this?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conestoga_wagon

I'm game.  Would we have to buy another horse as well?  A Wagon, I believe, is 35gp.  Another horse - a draft horse - would be 50gp.
Hannah Demsersk
Human Paladin, 153 posts
Thu 15 Jun 2023
at 13:59
  • msg #871

Re: The Pub Crawl:  OOC

In reply to Lucidity Velderan (msg # 870):

yeah kiiiiinda like that. but i meant somebody who already had a horse. that way my horse and theirs could pull it and we both only pay half the price
Lucidity Velderan
Human Rogue, 217 posts
Crime is common.
Logic is rare.
Thu 15 Jun 2023
at 14:39
  • msg #872

Re: The Pub Crawl:  OOC

In reply to Hannah Demsersk (msg # 871):

If you'd like, Lucy could chip in for that as well.  She could ride in the wagon with the other two, and save the expense of the cart and mule.

Unless you'd rather that we all had cart and mule *and* wagon, that is.  I can go either way.
Dungeon Master
GM, 548 posts
Thu 15 Jun 2023
at 23:29
  • msg #873

Re: The Pub Crawl:  OOC

What's the plan?  Cart?  Wagon?  Cart-and-wagon?  Multiple carts?  Walking?
Lucidity Velderan
Human Rogue, 218 posts
Crime is common.
Logic is rare.
Fri 16 Jun 2023
at 00:53
  • msg #874

Re: The Pub Crawl:  OOC

Lucy's list remains the same.  Simpler that way.  And, even if we get a wagon, a little redundancy couldn't hurt.
Yawgo
Tortle Druid, 190 posts
Big Shell, Small Size
Spore Druid
Fri 16 Jun 2023
at 15:16
  • msg #875

Re: The Pub Crawl:  OOC

Don't think I need anything nor do I have the money to get anything anyways. I'm good. Living off the land. And goodberries.
Dungeon Master
GM, 550 posts
Fri 16 Jun 2023
at 15:25
  • msg #876

Re: The Pub Crawl:  OOC

Thanks for confirming!
Lucidity Velderan
Human Rogue, 220 posts
Crime is common.
Logic is rare.
Fri 16 Jun 2023
at 15:35
  • msg #877

Re: The Pub Crawl:  OOC

List looks good to me.
Rain
Tabaxi Ranger, 235 posts
Sat 17 Jun 2023
at 00:56
  • msg #878

Re: The Pub Crawl:  OOC

same
Dungeon Master
GM, 551 posts
Sat 17 Jun 2023
at 11:30
  • msg #879

Re: The Pub Crawl:  OOC

Last question, which affects travel pace.

WhoTravelSpeedNotes
FriliaMastiff40 
HannahWagon60Riding Horse hitched to Wagon
KursakHorse60 
LucidityWalking / Wagon30 / 60Mule pulling a cart
MaglynnWagon60Riding Horse hitched to Wagon
RainPony40 
YawgoWalking / Wagon30 / 60 


I need to know two things:

@Yawgo and @Lucy, Are you walking, or riding in the wagon?

Second thing I need from everyone: what's the marching order?
This message was lightly edited by the GM at 11:31, Sat 17 June 2023.
Lucidity Velderan
Human Rogue, 221 posts
Crime is common.
Logic is rare.
Sat 17 Jun 2023
at 12:52
  • msg #880

Re: The Pub Crawl:  OOC

Lucy is Riding.  And, if possible she will travel at the front (or, alternately at the rear) as a lookout.
Yawgo
Tortle Druid, 191 posts
Big Shell, Small Size
Spore Druid
Sat 17 Jun 2023
at 13:05
  • msg #881

Re: The Pub Crawl:  OOC

Rather keep it IC but I feel Wagon is my best option. Unless we get a draft horse. I got a high Perception too.
Hannah Demsersk
Human Paladin, 154 posts
Sun 18 Jun 2023
at 06:34
  • msg #882

Re: The Pub Crawl:  OOC

The wagon should probably be at the back since it is the heaviest. So if everyone's okay with it, Hannah (and everyone else in the wagon) will go last
Yawgo
Tortle Druid, 192 posts
Big Shell, Small Size
Spore Druid
Mon 19 Jun 2023
at 00:34
  • msg #883

Re: The Pub Crawl:  OOC

I will just get another room to be safe. Sleeping in my shell. Been wanting on Kursak to answer before we went on the trip but if I need to do locate object, I believe I can if Druids know all the spells. If not, alright and I will keep the shard dagger. I supposed I will go last as well but at times be wandering along the wagons.
This message was last edited by the player at 00:35, Mon 19 June 2023.
Dungeon Master
GM, 553 posts
Mon 19 Jun 2023
at 00:57
  • msg #884

Re: The Pub Crawl:  OOC

Yawgo:
I will just get another room to be safe. Sleeping in my shell.


1 gold if you're sharing a room.  1 gold, 5 silver if you want a private room.

quote:
Been wanting on Kursak to answer before we went on the trip but if I need to do locate object, I believe I can if Druids know all the spells. If not, alright and I will keep the shard dagger. I supposed I will go last as well but at times be wandering along the wagons.


Given it's been a couple of days, you would have had an opportunity to cast it yourself.  Druids, like clerics, and sorcerers, have access to their entire spell list, but must choose what they're preparing each day.  You could have prepared Locate Object and cast it on the second day without issue.

If you did, you would have gotten no result.  Locate Object has a range of about 1,000 feet (just over 300 meters).  It's really a short-range locator spell.
Yawgo
Tortle Druid, 193 posts
Big Shell, Small Size
Spore Druid
Mon 19 Jun 2023
at 01:03
  • msg #885

Re: The Pub Crawl:  OOC

Alright I would have done it then and 1 gold and anyone else who needs a room can share it with me.
Lucidity Velderan
Human Rogue, 225 posts
Crime is common.
Logic is rare.
Mon 19 Jun 2023
at 13:47
  • msg #886

Re: The Pub Crawl:  OOC

BTW, we do have an extra draft horse.  I had purchased a draft horse with Yawgo's share of the gold with the intention of giving Yawgo a mount, and adding the possibility of a backup horse for the wagon if it came down to that.

After Hannah's post, I asked whether I could rescind that purchase.  Below is the DM's answer.

So, if you would like to ride, Yawgo, the opportunity is there.  Up to you.  Lucy will care for the horse until we have the chance to sell it otherwise.

Dungeon Master:
Lucidity Velderan, msg #307:
OoC: Also purchase a draft horse, bridle, riding sale, saddlebags, and feed for the animal.


Dungeon Master, msg #306:
OOC: We'll shortcut the purchases, since there's nothing unusual in all your plans.  The final accounting stands (updated to include Lucy's purchases for Yawgo):

AdjustmentCountItemSourceDestinationNotes
-----------------------------
Expended66goldLucidityJigow Markets 
Expended4silverLucidityJigow Markets 
Expended5copperLucidityJigow Markets 
Acquired1draft horseJigow MarketsYawgoGifted from Lucidity
Acquired1Bit & BridleJigow MarketsYawgoGifted from Lucidity
Acquired1Riding SaddleJigow MarketsYawgoGifted from Lucidity
Acquired1SaddlebagsJigow MarketsYawgoGifted from Lucidity
Acquired10feed (horse, 1 day)Jigow MarketsYawgoGifted from Lucidity


The purchase was made, the goods delivered.  I could walk it back as far as they were never delivered to Yawgo, but that would put them in Lucy's possession.

Yawgo
Tortle Druid, 194 posts
Big Shell, Small Size
Spore Druid
Mon 19 Jun 2023
at 14:19
  • msg #887

Re: The Pub Crawl:  OOC

Well I assumed we were all going to do it ICly but apparently no. DM decided to shoot us ahead which is fine but I think the whole Yawgo and Luc mule thing could have been fun. I can go either way with it. Can't really see Yawgo wanting to ride a horse. Even if it could hold him in his mind its a natural magestic beast that should not be ridden. He would ride it if there was no choice though but would say prefer the wagon. Maybe sitting up front to check out the area instead of the back (got a Passive Peeception of 17) If others want to ride them, he'd be fine with it but heck he'd probably 'talk' to them. Make sure they are being tended to properly lol! Heck.

Druid. I think I can care for a horse. Not trying to be a pain or anything.

Yawgo, Pet Detective!
This message was last edited by the player at 14:37, Mon 19 June 2023.
Dungeon Master
GM, 554 posts
Mon 19 Jun 2023
at 14:44
  • msg #888

Re: The Pub Crawl:  OOC

I did point out, back in msg #306:

quote:
OOC: We'll shortcut the purchases, since there's nothing unusual in all your plans.


If you wanted to purchase something in-character, you might have mentioned it.  I also asked people what they would like to accomplish witht he extra day in Jigow.  Yawgo in particular made mention that he was not purchasing anything.

It was not a random, unannounced "shoot [you] forward" -- there were plenty of opportunities to say what you wanted to do.
Dungeon Master
GM, 555 posts
Mon 19 Jun 2023
at 15:00
  • msg #889

Re: The Pub Crawl:  OOC

Btw, no Animal Handling check needed to interact with the animals (horses, mule, mastiffs) at camp.  They're domesticated animals, used to interacting with humanoid creatures, and this is a normal activity.
This message was last edited by the GM at 15:14, Mon 19 June 2023.
Yawgo
Tortle Druid, 196 posts
Big Shell, Small Size
Spore Druid
Mon 19 Jun 2023
at 15:12
  • msg #890

Re: The Pub Crawl:  OOC

Dungeon Master:
Ntw, no Animal Handling check needed to interact with the animals (horses, mule, mastiffs) at camp.  They're domesticated animals, used to interacting with humanoid creatures, and this is a normal activity.


Okay. Figured I'd roll it as I am not a 'normal humanoid creature' lol. Good to know.
Dungeon Master
GM, 556 posts
Mon 19 Jun 2023
at 15:17
  • msg #891

Re: The Pub Crawl:  OOC

On the grand scale of possibilities, you're closer to humanoid than a whole bunch of others -- and your body language / actions bridge the gap enough for most of them.  The draft horse in particular is a very placid animal; doesn't seem like much phases him -- or he's dumb enough not to appreciate the difference.
Yawgo
Tortle Druid, 197 posts
Big Shell, Small Size
Spore Druid
Mon 19 Jun 2023
at 15:42
  • msg #892

Re: The Pub Crawl:  OOC

A 3 to 4' tall tortle with a shell is normal? I talk funny. That's not normal. And I do odd things like painting. Thats not normal (well it is). I set alone with eyes closed in a foreign area. That's normal? Talking to each animal (yup!) and treating them with respect is normal? Wanting to have a bucn of different animals instead of people around isn't normal. Though Yawgo is very curious about all things. I sit and listen, not saying a word (mostly). That's different then most people.

Actually horses including draft ones are pretty smart. Varies of course.

https://petkeen.com/how-intelligent-are-horses/

Yawgo is far from normal :) Course I can see with him being a druid it would help but animals don't know this.
Dungeon Master
GM, 557 posts
Mon 19 Jun 2023
at 16:01
  • msg #893

Re: The Pub Crawl:  OOC

I did say on the grand scale of possibilities.  You're a lot closer to a humanoid creature than (for example) a Bullette -- or a Roc -- or a harpy -- or even a bird.  When we consider the  entire set of possibilities, you're still pretty close to the humanoid spectrum.

Kind of like how many Americans (just an example, not a judgement) think of anything that's 200 years old as OLD.  But there's a footbridge in Spain that was built 5,000 years ago and is still standing.  it's a matter of perspective.

Fun fact.  The entirety of human existence on Earth is only about 315,000 years long.  That's the best guess for when Homo Sapiens, a culture-bearing upright-walking species that lives on the ground and very likely first evolved in Africa, first emerged.

Dinosaurs?  They were around a lot longer: they first emerged about 230 million years ago, and then finally disappeared close to 65.5 million years ago, giving them a time on earth of about 164,500,000 years.  That's a whole four orders of magnitude longer than humans.

So yeah.  When you look at the list of playable races?  Tortles are pretty far out there in terms of weirdness.  When you look at all</> the creatures the animals might come into contact with?  Tortles might as well be the same as humans, as far as they're concerned.




As for the draft horse?  I was being specific: <i>this
horse is either incredibly placid -- or incredibly dumb.  Just a bit of flavour for that horse specifically.  Want to give him (her?  your choice) a name?
Yawgo
Tortle Druid, 198 posts
Big Shell, Small Size
Spore Druid
Mon 19 Jun 2023
at 16:11
  • msg #894

Re: The Pub Crawl:  OOC

Well technically yes I am humanoid. I didn't mean comparing myself to a bullete or a roc. Very very different. I still find a tortle a strange creature to most humandoid or 'creatures'. But that's just my view.

Course its a DND game. Nothing is 'normal' :) Normal in my opinion doesn't exist. Everyone is different so what is normal? See the point?

But I agree, if something is say 100 years old, its old. If something is 5000 years old its ancient lol!

Now for the horse, yeah. I can so picture Yawgon trying to 'train' it. Or having a conversation that's once sided (unless he uses speak with animals). Probably do it at some point. Like with Tusk haha :)
Lucidity Velderan
Human Rogue, 227 posts
Crime is common.
Logic is rare.
Mon 19 Jun 2023
at 16:43
  • msg #895

Re: The Pub Crawl:  OOC

I was THAT close to a phrase that used Yawgo's giant berries.  But, at the last moment, realized how that might sound.
Yawgo
Tortle Druid, 199 posts
Big Shell, Small Size
Spore Druid
Mon 19 Jun 2023
at 16:52
  • msg #896

Re: The Pub Crawl:  OOC

Lucidity Velderan:
I was THAT close to a phrase that used Yawgo's giant berries.  But, at the last moment, realized how that might sound.

Why...thank you :)
Lucidity Velderan
Human Rogue, 228 posts
Crime is common.
Logic is rare.
Mon 19 Jun 2023
at 17:22
  • msg #897

Re: The Pub Crawl:  OOC

BTW, DM, what skill would Engineering fall under?  For example, designing a fire pit for maximum heat radiation?  Or even, say, building a bridge?  Or rigging a trap?  If it were to be a skill roll would it be straight up Intelligence?
Yawgo
Tortle Druid, 201 posts
Big Shell, Small Size
Spore Druid
Mon 19 Jun 2023
at 20:29
  • msg #898

Re: The Pub Crawl:  OOC

I am pretty sure the group knows how to make a fire and keep it going so everyone is warmed up.


Dungeon Master
GM, 558 posts
Mon 19 Jun 2023
at 21:40
  • msg #899

Re: The Pub Crawl:  OOC

Lucidity Velderan:
BTW, DM, what skill would Engineering fall under?  For example, designing a fire pit for maximum heat radiation?  Or even, say, building a bridge?  Or rigging a trap?  If it were to be a skill roll would it be straight up Intelligence?


Survival for building a fire with a purpose in kind. Building a bridge would probably be a multi roll, cumulative successes kind of deal.  Intelligence would be the base stát, I believe.

Building traps? That depends on the specifics. What you're trying to accomplish with it.  Probably survival again.
Lucidity Velderan
Human Rogue, 229 posts
Crime is common.
Logic is rare.
Tue 20 Jun 2023
at 10:44
  • msg #900

Re: The Pub Crawl:  OOC

Do you allow Taking 10 in this game?
Dungeon Master
GM, 559 posts
Tue 20 Jun 2023
at 11:00
  • msg #901

Re: The Pub Crawl:  OOC

Since I'm not familiar with that phrase -- and I've found multiple different definitions online -- you might want to explain what you mean, or rephrase the question.

It feels like this is a lead-in question, so we could skip that one and go right for the carotid... where are you going with it?
Lucidity Velderan
Human Rogue, 230 posts
Crime is common.
Logic is rare.
Tue 20 Jun 2023
at 11:18
  • msg #902

Re: The Pub Crawl:  OOC

This explains in more depth.

https://makeaskillcheck.com/5e-taking-10/

But, at any rate, Taking 10 is the idea that in the absence of pressure to perform, or stakes to be had, a skill check can be taken with a simple average.  That is to say, on a roll of a d20, a simple 10 + Modifier.  Thus "Taking 10".

I was going to have Lucy play some music for the evening - and will regardless of the ruling.  Taking 10 will let me go with an average in place of rolling.
Lucidity Velderan
Human Rogue, 231 posts
Crime is common.
Logic is rare.
Tue 20 Jun 2023
at 11:42
  • msg #903

Re: The Pub Crawl:  OOC

Coming at the question from a different angle, the example of animal handling with domestic animals can be seen as one way of Taking 10.
Dungeon Master
GM, 560 posts
Tue 20 Jun 2023
at 12:33
  • msg #904

Re: The Pub Crawl:  OOC

In both of those circumstances (playing music for the evening, looking after the animals at camp), I would not require a roll at all.  Nor do we need a "measure of success" like Take 10.
  • you're proficient in the skill (or musical instrument)
  • the stakes are low, and there's no time pressure
  • the skill's not being contested either passively or actively.

Why roll dice at all -- or measure "how much" you succeeded.  I'd just call it a success and move on with telling the story.

I'm going to say we're NOT using Take 10.  I feel it's unnecessary, and paves the way for some misaligned expectations.  If I need a roll from you and you haven't given it; I'll ask you for it.  If you roll and don't need it; I'll ignore it.
Lucidity Velderan
Human Rogue, 232 posts
Crime is common.
Logic is rare.
Tue 20 Jun 2023
at 12:59
  • msg #905

Re: The Pub Crawl:  OOC

Got it.  Take 10 or not, that's the answer I was looking for.  Thanks.
Yawgo
Tortle Druid, 203 posts
Big Shell, Small Size
Spore Druid
Tue 20 Jun 2023
at 15:44
  • msg #906

Re: The Pub Crawl:  OOC

*shakes his head in frustration*
Kursak
Half-Goliath Cleric, 225 posts
AC 18 HP 23/23
Vigilant Blessing: Hannah
Tue 20 Jun 2023
at 15:55
  • msg #907

Re: The Pub Crawl:  OOC

Yawgo:
*shakes his head in frustration*

At?
Yawgo
Tortle Druid, 204 posts
Big Shell, Small Size
Spore Druid
Tue 20 Jun 2023
at 16:07
  • msg #908

Re: The Pub Crawl:  OOC

Stuff. And things.
Yawgo
Tortle Druid, 205 posts
Wed 21 Jun 2023
at 01:41
  • msg #909

Re: The Pub Crawl:  OOC

Good luck with the game.
Maglynn Othronus
Elf Warlock, 34 posts
Scholar & Seeker
Wed 21 Jun 2023
at 11:18
  • msg #910

Re: The Pub Crawl:  OOC

Yawgo:
Good luck with the game.


You're leaving us?
Dungeon Master
GM, 561 posts
Thu 22 Jun 2023
at 01:07
  • msg #911

Re: The Pub Crawl:  OOC

So.  We've gotten hung up on some pretty standard things (marching order, watch order) twice now.  Around a table, this is often resolved in seconds, yet here, it can take more than a week.

I think there are a couple of ways we can work together to improve the way we operate.
  1. We establish a standard marching order and a standard watch order.  This answers the question up front, so we can keep the story moving -- the downside is that it cuts down on a lot of inter-character roleplaying (For instance, Hannah and Lucy look set to have some neat little conversation during their watch, and I wouldn't want to interrupt that (unless it was good for the story (or fun))).  That's why I've been hesitant to do it so far.  FYI, just because we set a standard, doesn't mean it can't be changed by exception.
  2. We all make an effort to be more definitive in the marching order and watch order posts.  Rather than saying "I'm easy, I'll take any watch" or "I'll take second or third" -- be specific and just pick one.  If it doesn't matter to you which watch you take; take any one of them -- if someone else wants it, you can easily surrender the spot and pick another.


Thoughts?
Lucidity Velderan
Human Rogue, 235 posts
Crime is common.
Logic is rare.
Thu 22 Jun 2023
at 01:23
  • msg #912

Re: The Pub Crawl:  OOC

I'm all for standards.  Or, let's call them "Defaults" instead.  Something to fall back on when we're tired or otherwise occupied.  Some things naturally lend certain characters to certain spots.  For example, Lucy probably has the highest perception.  Makes sense for her to lead in Marching Order.  Lynn with her darkvision would be ideal for dead of night watch shifts.  Characters who have to prepare spells - clerics and such - are best for the early morning shift.  We can start there.  Develop a default, but vary it if we desire.

My two cents.
Kursak
Half-Goliath Cleric, 226 posts
AC 18 HP 23/23
Vigilant Blessing: Hannah
Thu 22 Jun 2023
at 01:57
  • msg #913

Re: The Pub Crawl:  OOC

Default orders can stay mostly how we had them before.

Default March
FrontHannahFrilia
SecondRainLucidity
MidYawgoMaglynn
RearKursak 

When we drop down to single file, we zipper. When someone scouts ahead, rows move up to fill in the gaps.

Default Watch
FirstLucidityHannah
SecondFriliaRain
ThirdKursakMaglynn
FourthYawgoMaglynn

Frilia is slotted into second watch so she can recover SW/AS during the first watch. Maglynn only needs 4 hours, as an elf, so I set her on 3rd/4th so she can potentially recover her Warlock spells during 1st shift, to be better prepared for an encounter in the other 3. Yawgo gets his wild shapes back in the same manner.

I don't think, mechanically, order will matter for Lucy, Rain, or Kursak.
This message was last edited by the player at 02:15, Thu 22 June 2023.
Lucidity Velderan
Human Rogue, 236 posts
Crime is common.
Logic is rare.
Thu 22 Jun 2023
at 02:34
  • msg #914

Re: The Pub Crawl:  OOC

Looks good to me.  Got to start somewhere.
Kursak
Half-Goliath Cleric, 227 posts
AC 18 HP 23/23
Vigilant Blessing: Hannah
Thu 22 Jun 2023
at 02:39
  • msg #915

Re: The Pub Crawl:  OOC

If we want to optimize the whole thing, we should spread out our highest perception people so reduce the risk of surprise on each shift. We know the DM is a sneaky-sneaker after our coin and the amulet went missing, but doing that is pure metagaming. The short rest stuff is at least in-character knowledge, knowing how much rest they need before they can repeat a certain heroic feat.
Dungeon Master
GM, 562 posts
Thu 22 Jun 2023
at 02:49
  • msg #916

Re: The Pub Crawl:  OOC

A sneaky sneaker?  You wound me, good sir!
Hannah Demsersk
Human Paladin, 159 posts
Thu 22 Jun 2023
at 03:07
  • msg #917

Re: The Pub Crawl:  OOC

I'm happy with the proposed defaults btw. Just as long as I'm not always standing in front as a human shield with 1 hit point left
Kursak
Half-Goliath Cleric, 228 posts
AC 18 HP 23/23
Vigilant Blessing: Hannah
Thu 22 Jun 2023
at 03:10
  • msg #918

Re: The Pub Crawl:  OOC

You think I would ever leave you at 1 hp, Hannah?

Now I'm the one who's wounded!
Lucidity Velderan
Human Rogue, 241 posts
Crime is common.
Logic is rare.
Mon 26 Jun 2023
at 15:37
  • msg #919

Re: The Pub Crawl:  OOC

Dungeon Master:
OOC: Investigation isn't the right roll here; you're too far away to be able to investigate.  If you're trying to figure out what the cat-creatures are, Nature would be better to use.

To tell you the truth, I'm less interested in the cat-creatures than I am in what our screaming figure is on top of.

Dungeon Master:
In the distance, the party could see a figure atop what looked like a large mountain cat, hanging on for dear life!  Circling around the cat were four larger cat-like beasts, snarling as they harried their prey.

That sounds like a statue of some kind.  That is what I'm interested in.
Dungeon Master
GM, 569 posts
Mon 26 Jun 2023
at 15:49
  • msg #920

Re: The Pub Crawl:  OOC

Not a statue.  Definitely a living creature.
Kursak
Half-Goliath Cleric, 230 posts
AC 18 HP 23/23
Vigilant Blessing: Hannah
Tue 27 Jun 2023
at 16:53
  • msg #921

Re: The Pub Crawl:  OOC

How far away is the tiefling?

I think taking the horses all the way up there is a bad idea, but depending on the distance, we may certainly want to get closer before we dismount.
Dungeon Master
GM, 571 posts
Wed 28 Jun 2023
at 01:35
  • msg #922

Re: The Pub Crawl:  OOC

Approximately 300 feet away.  Not close enough to make yourselves immediate threats (or targets -- clearly the attacking beasts clocked your presence, and decided to stick with their current prey).

One issue which would be immediate apparent to everyone -- the wagon and the cart would have some difficult time going off-road; the terrain is rocky on a level that could pose structural risk to any wheeled vehicle.  The mounts should be able to get through fine; anything else would be considered to be difficult terrain.
Dungeon Master
GM, 572 posts
Thu 29 Jun 2023
at 04:23
  • msg #923

Re: The Pub Crawl:  OOC

As we're about to move into combat, and we have new players, it might be a good time to revisit and re/hash/agree upon how we run combat.

How I've Done it Before
  • I call for initiative, everyone rolls and posts their actions, ignoring the initiative order.
  • I resolve combat according to the initiative order.


Pros: it's faster; you don't need to wait for someone to post before you can post your action.
Cons: It's harder to coordinate efforts.  For people further down on the init order, the entire battlefield can have changed before it's your turn.  It can make Reactions incredibly hard to use effectively, since you don't see what the enemy is doing until I resolve the combat.

We could Follow the Initiative Order
No prizes for figuring out how this works.  I do this in another game with 4 players, and it seems to work better than I thought it would -- but with 6 players, this could get rather slow.
  • I call for initiative, everyone rolls initiative.
  • Each person is called out specifically for their turn in combat, following the init order.
  • Each turn is resolved, and I call out the next person, etc.


Pros: It's easier to keep track of who's done what, and to plan your actions.  Reactions are a cinch, since you could interject at any time.
Cons: It's slow.  In a medium which is already slow.  If someone's not around for whatever reason, it gets really slow.

We could Hybridise It
  • I call for initiative, everyone rolls initiative.
  • I call out groups of people (init rolls from 21-25, init rolls from 16-20, etc.)
  • Each group of actions is resolved, and I call out the next group, etc.


Pros & Cons: Half and half of the above.




Thoughts?  Ideas?  Questions?
This message was last updated by the GM at 04:24, Thu 29 June 2023.
Kursak
Half-Goliath Cleric, 232 posts
AC 18 HP 23/23
Vigilant Blessing: Hannah
Thu 29 Jun 2023
at 04:32
  • msg #924

Re: The Pub Crawl:  OOC

I vote for keep on with how we've done it so far.
Hannah Demsersk
Human Paladin, 163 posts
Thu 29 Jun 2023
at 04:35
  • msg #925

Re: The Pub Crawl:  OOC

i say if it aint broke, dont fix it
Rain
Tabaxi Ranger, 247 posts
Thu 29 Jun 2023
at 04:36
  • msg #926

Re: The Pub Crawl:  OOC

Agreed with Jason and hannah
Maglynn Othronus
Elf Warlock, 37 posts
Scholar & Seeker
Thu 29 Jun 2023
at 04:52
  • msg #927

Re: The Pub Crawl:  OOC

Prefer how it's done before.  It's how I run my games too.  I will do the odd mid-round pause if there is a significant change (like in the last battle many of you were in) but otherwise run it just like you said.
Lucidity Velderan
Human Rogue, 244 posts
Crime is common.
Logic is rare.
Thu 29 Jun 2023
at 10:01
  • msg #928

Re: The Pub Crawl:  OOC

I've played in games in which we've done it like you have in the past.  It is faster, and it's gone well.  I'm with everyone else.  Door number One, please.
Frilia Silverstring
Gnome Fighter, 265 posts
Thu 29 Jun 2023
at 10:35
  • msg #929

Re: The Pub Crawl:  OOC

My vote also goes to the consensus, don't change what works well
Lucidity Velderan
Human Rogue, 246 posts
Crime is common.
Logic is rare.
Fri 30 Jun 2023
at 00:51
  • msg #930

Re: The Pub Crawl:  OOC

I'm still good with Lucy's action.  So far.
Frilia Silverstring
Gnome Fighter, 267 posts
Fri 30 Jun 2023
at 03:18
  • msg #931

Re: The Pub Crawl:  OOC

I'll keep the same action
Dungeon Master
GM, 575 posts
Fri 30 Jun 2023
at 09:15
  • msg #932

Re: The Pub Crawl:  OOC

Thanks team.

For the record, when I need to interrupt the round like I did here, my default assumption is that you're keeping the same action unless you tell me otherwise.
Rain
Tabaxi Ranger, 249 posts
Fri 30 Jun 2023
at 09:54
  • msg #933

Re: The Pub Crawl:  OOC

that i am fine with
Lucidity Velderan
Human Rogue, 247 posts
Crime is common.
Logic is rare.
Fri 30 Jun 2023
at 09:57
  • msg #934

Re: The Pub Crawl:  OOC

Sounds good to me too.
Lucidity Velderan
Human Rogue, 248 posts
Crime is common.
Logic is rare.
Fri 30 Jun 2023
at 12:52
  • msg #935

Re: The Pub Crawl:  OOC

Is this Insight vs Deception?  Or is this straight Wis vs straight Cha?

quote:
Insightful Fighting
At 3rd level, you gain the ability to decipher an opponent's tactics and develop a counter to them. As a bonus action, you make a Wisdom (Insight) check against a creature you can see that isn't incapacitated, contested by the target's Charisma (Deception) check. If you succeed, you can use your Sneak Attack against that target even if you don't have advantage on the attack roll, but not if you have disadvantage on it.

This benefit lasts for 1 minute or until you successfully use this feature against a different target.

Dungeon Master
GM, 577 posts
Fri 30 Jun 2023
at 12:58
  • msg #936

Re: The Pub Crawl:  OOC

I would say it's skill vs skill.
Lucidity Velderan
Human Rogue, 250 posts
Crime is common.
Logic is rare.
Fri 30 Jun 2023
at 13:24
  • msg #937

Re: The Pub Crawl:  OOC

Thanks.

BTW, Which moorbounder is the just south of Kursak right now?  1, 2, 3, or 4?  I ask because Insightful Fighting lasts 1 minute.
Dungeon Master
GM, 578 posts
Fri 30 Jun 2023
at 13:37
  • msg #938

Re: The Pub Crawl:  OOC

#3 is just below Kursak right now.

If you're using AboveVTT, you should be able to mouse over the token and get the specific name.  At least it works for me when I view it as a player (which is how I take the screenshots).
Lucidity Velderan
Human Rogue, 251 posts
Crime is common.
Logic is rare.
Fri 30 Jun 2023
at 14:00
  • msg #939

Re: The Pub Crawl:  OOC

That's cool.  I didn't know you could do that.  I'm using AboveVTT, and highly recommend it.  Very neat feature.
Kursak
Half-Goliath Cleric, 235 posts
AC 18 HP 23/23
Vigilant Blessing: Hannah
Fri 30 Jun 2023
at 14:33
  • msg #940

Re: The Pub Crawl:  OOC

In reply to Lucidity Velderan (msg # 935):

Yeah, it's a semi-recent change in semantics to make things easier, and to allow for the skill customization of Tasha's to be shown. In early 5E, when we were all filling out character sheets, a lot of people didn't bother writing bonuses on any skill they weren't proficient in, but when the DM would ask for a check and they weren't proficient, they'd have to ask which attribute was tied to the skill in question to figure it out. This style answers both sides.

A Wisdom (Insight) check is a Wisdom check where, if you're proficient with Insight, you add your proficiency bonus. An Insight check is a Wisdom check where you add your proficiency bonus if you're proficient. Same thing, different wording.

Tasha's (might have been Xanathar's) introduced the official idea of using alternative attributes for skill checks. A Strength (Intimidation) check as opposed to a Charisma (Intimidate) check will both use your proficiency for the skill, but the attribute bonus you add to it is different based on the situation. A big, ugly barbarian might have an 8 Cha but an 18 Str, and its the Strength that makes them intimidating. Hermione could intimidate other little wizards with her Intelligence (Intimidate) checks.
Lucidity Velderan
Human Rogue, 252 posts
Crime is common.
Logic is rare.
Fri 30 Jun 2023
at 15:34
  • msg #941

Re: The Pub Crawl:  OOC

That makes sense.  And the system makes much more sense than the old 3.5 / Pathfinder static definition of skills.
Lucidity Velderan
Human Rogue, 256 posts
Crime is common.
Logic is rare.
Fri 7 Jul 2023
at 17:30
  • msg #942

Re: The Pub Crawl:  OOC

Kursak:
"We're down a horse ... "

We have an extra horse, BTW.  The one that Lucy bought for Yawgo.
Lucidity Velderan
Human Rogue, 259 posts
Crime is common.
Logic is rare.
Mon 10 Jul 2023
at 18:49
  • msg #943

Re: The Pub Crawl:  OOC

I decided to try and uncloud things.  For the sake of my mind at least.

So, looks to me as though two moorbounders fled directly north.  (One of them with Kursak's dead horse.)  The one that we are interested in initially fled south with the Tiefling's body.  Since, then, however, we have information that this moorbounder with the tiefling in its mouth, has circled from south to the Northeast.

This puts all three moorbounders headed in a similar general direction.  it is particularly telling to me that the Moorbounder with Tiefling is circling around to nearly 180 degrees from the direction from which it had initially escaped.   It is in that general direction in which I think we should head.

The problem that I have is that the only one who knows about the Moorbounder with Tiefling is Frilia's Yukiko.  For this reason, I cannot have Lucidity act on this information.



Moorbounder 1: Dead
Moorbounder 2: Has Kursak's horse.  Went out of sight headed north.
Moorbounder 3: Has Tiefling.  Went out of sight headed south.
Moorbounder 4: Fled north.


Dungeon Master Msg 375:
The second of the moorbounders closest to Kursak grabbed the tiefling's corpse in its jaws, and turned to escape back up the southern embankment, the lifeless body bouncing against the rocks.
OOC: Bristled Moorbounder 3 has fled, taking the tiefling corpse with it.  It's now out of visual range.

Up on the northern cliff, the moorbounded dragging Kursak's horse away continued to tug and drag the beast clear.
OOC: Bristled Moorbounder 2 is fleeing.  Next round it will be out of sight.



Dungeon Master Msg 382:
On the northern ridge, the moorbound dragging Kursak's horse away disappeared into the scrub.

In the background, unnoticed by any except Yukiko, the tiefling's moorbounder escapes, fleeing off to the northeast.



Dungeon Master 389:
The moorbounder, wounded and facing odds greater than it liked, turned to flee, leaping up the cliff face in a single bound and disappearing into the brush.  Kursak took another swing with his warhammer, but the beast was too quick and the blow whistled as it passed through the air where the moorbounder had once been.  Faster than could be believed, the beats was through the brush, possibly following the trail of its companion and Kursak's poor horse.
ROLL: Kursak rolled 7 using 1d20+4 ((3)).  Attack of Opportunity.


OOC: pausing here since the battlefield's changed.  The moorbounder is off the map to the north.  It's using its movement (speed 70), and then using its action to dash -- it's already 140' away from Kursak, and fleeing in the NW direction.

Frilia Silverstring
Gnome Fighter, 273 posts
Mon 10 Jul 2023
at 21:45
  • msg #944

Re: The Pub Crawl:  OOC

I think the "tiefling's moorbounder" that Yukiko saw was its mount, not the one that is carrying the tiefling's corpse
Lucidity Velderan
Human Rogue, 260 posts
Crime is common.
Logic is rare.
Mon 10 Jul 2023
at 21:56
  • msg #945

Re: The Pub Crawl:  OOC

You're right.  In that case, looks like following the moorbounder with the horse may be the wrong direction.  The one with the tiefling went south.  I'll post on that in a bit.
Lucidity Velderan
Human Rogue, 262 posts
Crime is common.
Logic is rare.
Mon 10 Jul 2023
at 23:42
  • msg #946

Re: The Pub Crawl:  OOC

BTW, thanks for the catch.
Frilia Silverstring
Gnome Fighter, 274 posts
Mon 10 Jul 2023
at 23:54
  • msg #947

Re: The Pub Crawl:  OOC

You're very welcome  ;)
Dungeon Master
GM, 584 posts
Tue 11 Jul 2023
at 00:01
  • msg #948

Re: The Pub Crawl:  OOC

Sometimes my hardest job is keeping my mouth shut...  :D
Lucidity Velderan
Human Rogue, 263 posts
Crime is common.
Logic is rare.
Wed 12 Jul 2023
at 12:52
  • msg #949

Re: The Pub Crawl:  OOC

Would an Investigation check help us start moving in the right direction?
Dungeon Master
GM, 586 posts
Wed 12 Jul 2023
at 16:50
  • msg #950

Re: The Pub Crawl:  OOC

No, this would more accurately be governed by Survival -- it's still a tracking exercise.

Rain spotted the trail heading south, but there've been no specific movements to head up the southern ridge and follow the trail.
Lucidity Velderan
Human Rogue, 271 posts
Crime is common.
Logic is rare.
Fri 21 Jul 2023
at 01:45
  • msg #951

Re: The Pub Crawl:  OOC

Dungeon Master:
In the end, she returned to camp with a general impression that the Wastewalkers had indeed walked this way.


Just for that, tomorrow you're getting this on the violetta.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IsX3sPbzWy8
Dungeon Master
GM, 595 posts
Fri 21 Jul 2023
at 02:16
  • msg #952

Re: The Pub Crawl:  OOC

Don't you threaten me with a good time!

I love stringed instruments, thought I cannot play them.  One of my favourite artists is Lindsey Stirling.  Electric violin dubstep... *drool*
Lucidity Velderan
Human Rogue, 273 posts
Crime is common.
Logic is rare.
Sat 22 Jul 2023
at 14:51
  • msg #953

Re: The Pub Crawl:  OOC

Hannah Demsersk:

00:46, Today: Hannah Demsersk rolled 14 using 1d20+2 ((12)).
00:46, Today: Hannah Demsersk rolled 22 using 1d20+2 ((20)).
Ooh Nat 20
Perception check

That's appropriate.  Given that you were the first one to show concern.
Kursak
Half-Goliath Cleric, 251 posts
AC 18 HP 23/23
Vigilant Blessing: Hannah
Wed 9 Aug 2023
at 15:59
  • msg #954

Re: The Pub Crawl:  OOC

Concerning exhaustion on revive:

Generally, I hate exhaustion in 5E. For this case, I think it sounds good. The concern that I have is that the stacks get out of hand real quick and then force an element of downtime into the game. It's more realistic and crunchy as a mechanic, so that part is actually kind of good. I have a little concern about the downtime, as it's a "stop playing the game for a while and play this mechanic instead" thing, which I hate in most games. But, we know that it's there and how to avoid it, so it shouldn't happen often. And, when it does happen, then it should theoretically be fitting from an RP standpoint of we just got our asses kicked, win or loose, lets take a few days to recover.

TLDR; I like it. Tiny bit concerned, but more from a worst case standpoint than a general sense.
Kursak
Half-Goliath Cleric, 252 posts
AC 18 HP 23/23
Vigilant Blessing: Hannah
Wed 9 Aug 2023
at 18:16
  • msg #955

Re: The Pub Crawl:  OOC

Some of the recent effects that bring Exhaustion back into the mix include something like, "When the character finishes a short or long rest, they lose every level of exhaustion gained from this feature." Some variation of that would put off the potential for forced downtime lasting several days in a row. Having a short rest remove 1 level of the exhaustion and long rests restoring all, or multiple, levels could also work.
Dungeon Master
GM, 608 posts
Thu 10 Aug 2023
at 00:05
  • msg #956

Re: The Pub Crawl:  OOC

quote:
Having a short rest remove 1 level of the exhaustion and long rests restoring all, or multiple, levels could also work.


I did consider a variation on that.  Specifically, casting Lesser Restoration on an Exhausted person removes one level of Exhaustion.  Casting its bigger cousin Greater Restoration would remove all levels of Exhaustion.

At the end of the day I am trying to walk a line between gritty realism and pure fantasy.  I want to avoid situations where a character doesn't hesitate to charge into battle when they're on 5 hit points (because the cleric will just heal them) -- and I want to give the clerics and healers a chance to do more than just heal the front-line.  Kinda sucks to have all of those awesome powers, but you can't use them because you have to save room for healing spells.

I hate how almost formulaic dndcombat has become.  It's gotten so bad that it's actually invaded our language.  Fighters, Barbarians, Paladins are "tanks" and their job is to hold the line.  Rangers, Rogues, and Warlocks are generally "dps" and their job is to deal as much damage in as short a time as possible (as if that's not the goal of every fighter).  Then you have "controllers" and "supports" and "healers".

I blame video games, which are built a certain way because people are unpredictable.  Game developers cannot predict every way that a person might act, but that is literally their job.  Predict the actions so you can script the responses.  You can track the evolution over time.  it started with the silent protagonist -- the main character of a game who never speaks and is only spoken to.  From there, it moved into conversation trees where you could only select from four or five things your character might say, and the conversation develops from there.  I get it; this is born out of the need to deliver a finished game: something that starts at point A and ends at Point B.  it's a necessary evil for video games.  But it's bled over into tabletop games and tabletop game development.

So I look for ways to disrupt the formula.  Underwater combat and exploration (Emerald Grotto)... a fight at long range (the encounter with the moornounders)... and things like making unconsciousness more than a "miss a turn getting healed" inconvenience.

Exhaustion is brutal from a game mechanic perspective.  Dying is brutal from a roleplay perspective.  It should be.

</rant>
Lucidity Velderan
Human Rogue, 283 posts
Crime is common.
Logic is rare.
Tue 22 Aug 2023
at 22:42
  • msg #957

Re: The Pub Crawl:  OOC

I think they're either all running away.  Or everyone is running into an ambush.  Be ready.
Dungeon Master
GM, 617 posts
Mon 28 Aug 2023
at 04:32
  • msg #958

Re: The Pub Crawl:  OOC

Dungeon Master:
We could Hybridise It
  • I call for initiative, everyone rolls initiative.
  • I call out groups of people (init rolls from 21-25, init rolls from 16-20, etc.)
  • Each group of actions is resolved, and I call out the next group, etc.


I think I'd like to try running the next combat this way, just to see how it works out for us.

I'm looking ahead to things like lair actions and legendary actions -- which could absolutely change the battlefield.  I also think that breaking things up like this might mean I have less to focus on for the post, which means I can be a bit more flavourful with my narration (right now, it seems dry in combat rounds).

Any thoughts?
Hannah Demsersk
Human Paladin, 188 posts
Mon 28 Aug 2023
at 09:26
  • msg #959

Re: The Pub Crawl:  OOC

sounds good. can always revert if it doesn't work out
Lucidity Velderan
Human Rogue, 287 posts
Crime is common.
Logic is rare.
Mon 28 Aug 2023
at 10:46
  • msg #960

Re: The Pub Crawl:  OOC

Sounds like a good experiment to me as well.  Might I ask, though, what are Legendary ActionsLair Actions, I assume would be in close quarters?
Dungeon Master
GM, 618 posts
Mon 28 Aug 2023
at 14:24
  • msg #961

Re: The Pub Crawl:  OOC

Certain monsters have lairs.  Dragons or Beholders, for instance.  When *in* those lairs, special things -- usually not good things for the party -- can happen.

Basic Rules:
Legendary Actions

A legendary creature can take a certain number of special actions--called legendary actions--outside its turn. Only one legendary action option can be used at a time and only at the end of another creature's turn. A creature regains its spent legendary actions at the start of its turn. It can forgo using them, and it can't use them while incapacitated or otherwise unable to take actions. If surprised, it can't use them until after its first turn in the combat.

A Legendary Creature's Lair

A legendary creature might have a section describing its lair and the special effects it can create while there, either by act of will or simply by being present. Such a section applies only to a legendary creature that spends a great deal of time in its lair.

Lair Actions

If a legendary creature has lair actions, it can use them to harness the ambient magic in its lair. On initiative count 20 (losing all initiative ties), it can use one of its lair action options. It can't do so while incapacitated or otherwise unable to take actions. If surprised, it can't use one until after its first turn in the combat.

Lucidity Velderan
Human Rogue, 288 posts
Crime is common.
Logic is rare.
Mon 28 Aug 2023
at 14:40
  • msg #962

Re: The Pub Crawl:  OOC

Day-um.  That's new for me.  Cool rule.

Does that count for badgers too?  I'm betting that it does.
Dungeon Master
GM, 619 posts
Mon 28 Aug 2023
at 15:33
  • msg #963

Re: The Pub Crawl:  OOC

For that you need at least three badgers, two mushrooms, and a snake.  Make a wisdom saving throw or suffer 2d8 psychic damage.  :)


Spoiler text: (Highlight or hover over the text to view)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NL6CDFn2i3I

Lucidity Velderan
Human Rogue, 289 posts
Crime is common.
Logic is rare.
Mon 28 Aug 2023
at 15:42
  • msg #964

Re: The Pub Crawl:  OOC

Rolled 19 using 1d20+5 with rolls of 14.  Wisdom Save.

Honey badger don't give a shit.
Dungeon Master
GM, 620 posts
Mon 28 Aug 2023
at 15:43
  • msg #965

Re: The Pub Crawl:  OOC

What's really nasty are Legendary Resistances.  Generally limited to a number of time per (time period), they simply state:

quote:
Legendary Resistance. If you fail a saving throw, you can choose to succeed instead.

Lucidity Velderan
Human Rogue, 293 posts
Crime is common.
Logic is rare.
Sat 2 Sep 2023
at 12:01
  • msg #966

Re: The Pub Crawl:  OOC

Sorry, apologies for not posting sooner.  Lucy wasn't going to return to the campsite.  Rather, she was going to send the others back and continue on to figure out what Rain had stumbled on.  That's the reason for the light.  Is it possible to retcon those last couple of paragraphs?

Yes, I know it's rash.  And it's risky.  But, I can't help thinking that we're giving up some sorts of rewards at the ends of these encounters.  Something in the way that Go on / Or Go Back has been offered to us both times that makes me feel that we're missing out on something.

I'm open to someone convincing me that I'm wrong.  Because it is rash, and it is risky.  But I also think that Lucy is the only one fast enough to run away should things get dicey.
Tyrsoir
Drake Ranger, 9 posts
Sat 2 Sep 2023
at 12:05
  • msg #967

Re: The Pub Crawl:  OOC

I'll say that as Rain's player (or more former), it is VERY risky.


....hence she died, even with a kick-ass drake.

But do what Lucy would do
Dungeon Master
GM, 623 posts
Sat 2 Sep 2023
at 12:37
  • msg #968

Re: The Pub Crawl:  OOC

*Suppressing an evil grin*

I've got no problem retconning the post, but we need to work out what actually *did* happen.

Are you trying to sneak away?  It seems not, based on the open request for light, but if so, I'll call for a stealth roll.

Are you trying to convince the others to let you go on your own?  We can roleplay it out.  The light problem can be solved if you guys think about it, but first really, would be getting consensus on the plan.
Lucidity Velderan
Human Rogue, 294 posts
Crime is common.
Logic is rare.
Sat 2 Sep 2023
at 13:00
  • msg #969

Re: The Pub Crawl:  OOC

Lucy is a very aboveboard character.  In my next post, I'd planned to ... Heck.  Here's something of what I'd planned to post last night before deciding that going to better was more important.



"Thank you, Lynn.  This will do just fine."  The Inquisitive broke away most of the stick so that the small portion might be extinguished when put into her pocket.  "Now, if you will all please return to camp, I shall proceed to where I believe Rain encountered the wisps.  This should require little in the way of time.  And please do not attempt to follow.  I also believe that I am the only one uniquely qualified to flee in the case of difficulty, and I would like the freedom to do so."

"Please," she said.  "I will return shortly."
Dungeon Master
GM, 624 posts
Sat 2 Sep 2023
at 13:21
  • msg #970

Re: The Pub Crawl:  OOC

Here's what I'll do.  I'll modify *my* post, and delete Tyrsoir's, and then post yours below for you.  We can then pick up from there.

Edit: Posted.  We're back at the gully, and Lucy is proposing to go off on her own.  Pick up from here.
This message was last edited by the GM at 13:24, Sat 02 Sept 2023.
Lucidity Velderan
Human Rogue, 296 posts
Crime is common.
Logic is rare.
Sat 2 Sep 2023
at 13:26
  • msg #971

Re: The Pub Crawl:  OOC

Thanks.  As I said, I'm open to being convinced to do otherwise.  If someone wants to try and talk Lucy out of it, come in with a good argument, and I'll listen.
Frilia Silverstring
Gnome Fighter, 291 posts
Sat 2 Sep 2023
at 13:30
  • msg #972

Re: The Pub Crawl:  OOC

So we are back at the camp? ok, let me modify my post then.
Lucidity Velderan
Human Rogue, 303 posts
Crime is common.
Logic is rare.
Sun 10 Sep 2023
at 16:42
  • msg #973

Re: The Pub Crawl:  OOC

if it is possible to use a Free Action outside of Initiative order, then I will have Lucy call out a warning that there is a fourth Wisp that has become invisible.
Dungeon Master
GM, 632 posts
Sun 10 Sep 2023
at 16:54
  • msg #974

Re: The Pub Crawl:  OOC

You're free to do that, but I'll point out that there are four visible wisps on the field.

Also, to be perfectly clear -- your actions are taken on your turn, with the exception of Reactions, which are done in response to someone else's action. (even a held action is released by using a character's Reaction).  A free action would also be done on your turn.

If you wanted to use your Reaction to shout out a warning, that's certainly allowed.
This message was last edited by the GM at 17:10, Sun 10 Sept 2023.
Lucidity Velderan
Human Rogue, 304 posts
Crime is common.
Logic is rare.
Sun 10 Sep 2023
at 18:48
  • msg #975

Re: The Pub Crawl:  OOC

Oh.  I see.  One is next to Lynn.
Lucidity Velderan
Human Rogue, 305 posts
Crime is common.
Logic is rare.
Tue 12 Sep 2023
at 13:44
  • msg #976

Re: The Pub Crawl:  OOC

Lucidity will not leave anyone behind.  Mechanics being what they are, however, I am left with the option of either escaping, and leaving everyone behind, or wasting a Ready to plan for the contingencies of fellow players.

So, before posting, I'm going to call for a consensus.  Are we all withdrawing?
Frilia Silverstring
Gnome Fighter, 295 posts
Tue 12 Sep 2023
at 13:50
  • msg #977

Re: The Pub Crawl:  OOC

that was Frilia's idea from the start, and she said so IC
Dungeon Master
GM, 634 posts
Tue 12 Sep 2023
at 13:58
  • msg #978

Re: The Pub Crawl:  OOC

You all knew what you were walking into...
Frilia Silverstring
Gnome Fighter, 296 posts
Tue 12 Sep 2023
at 16:11
  • msg #979

Re: The Pub Crawl:  OOC

In reply to Dungeon Master (msg # 978):

why do you think I didn't want to go? :P
Dungeon Master
GM, 635 posts
Tue 12 Sep 2023
at 16:58
  • msg #980

Re: The Pub Crawl:  OOC

Just think: you have an entire night's watch ahead of you, too!
Frilia Silverstring
Gnome Fighter, 297 posts
Tue 12 Sep 2023
at 18:08
  • msg #981

Re: The Pub Crawl:  OOC

Maglynn is the best placed among us to do real damage to the wisps with her eldritch blast, but she needs to survive first!
Dungeon Master
GM, 642 posts
Fri 22 Sep 2023
at 22:51
  • msg #982

Re: The Pub Crawl:  OOC

Dungeon Master:
Dungeon Master:
We could Hybridise It
  • I call for initiative, everyone rolls initiative.
  • I call out groups of people (init rolls from 21-25, init rolls from 16-20, etc.)
  • Each group of actions is resolved, and I call out the next group, etc.


I think I'd like to try running the next combat this way, just to see how it works out for us.

I'm looking ahead to things like lair actions and legendary actions -- which could absolutely change the battlefield.  I also think that breaking things up like this might mean I have less to focus on for the post, which means I can be a bit more flavourful with my narration (right now, it seems dry in combat rounds).

Any thoughts?


I'm interested in any feedback you might have on this most recent combat and how it was run mechanically...
Lucidity Velderan
Human Rogue, 310 posts
Crime is common.
Logic is rare.
Fri 22 Sep 2023
at 23:24
  • msg #983

Re: The Pub Crawl:  OOC

I have to say that it threw me at first.  Or, rather, maybe I wasn't expecting the initiative order in general.  But, I think things happened the way that they should have.  I wouldn't have wanted all of those wisps attacking Lynn.  Things might have turned out worse.

All in all, I think it's something to which I could easily adapt.  Especially if it made things easier on you, and smoother play-wise.
Maglynn Othronus
Elf Warlock, 65 posts
Scholar & Seeker
Sat 23 Sep 2023
at 00:39
  • msg #984

Re: The Pub Crawl:  OOC

Took me a few to get used to but worked after.

Main potential issue I see is if you get a non-poster clogging up the combat round but I guess you can get that anyway!
Frilia Silverstring
Gnome Fighter, 302 posts
Sat 23 Sep 2023
at 15:16
  • msg #985

Re: The Pub Crawl:  OOC

It works if you have active players, that look often. Sometimes i can be a few days without even looking at rpol, I'll try to avoid doing that in combat.
Dungeon Master
GM, 643 posts
Sun 24 Sep 2023
at 00:27
  • msg #986

Re: The Pub Crawl:  OOC

It required more frequent updates from me, so that's a trade-off, but those updates were smaller and easier to manage.  It also made it a little more difficult to keep track of where we were in the combat round, since it tended to bleed over from one round to the next -- I kept having to refer back to the >> markers I put in the combat table.

I still think it will pay off when we get to things like legendary actions and lair actions.  And most importantly, it makes it easier to adjust when you all start using reactions -- it makes it easier to pinpoint when you want to use it, and it means I don't have to roll the post back as far to "undo" what was done.

We'll keep playing with it, and if it needs tweaking, we'll do so.  :)

Frilia Silverstring:
It works if you have active players, that look often. Sometimes i can be a few days without even looking at rpol, I'll try to avoid doing that in combat.


That's an excellent point.  I'll continue to tag people on discord for each of the combat rounds when their turn comes up.
This message was last edited by the GM at 00:29, Sun 24 Sept 2023.
Lucidity Velderan
Human Rogue, 311 posts
Crime is common.
Logic is rare.
Mon 25 Sep 2023
at 13:42
  • msg #987

Re: The Pub Crawl:  OOC

As far as I'm concerned, I'll roll with whatever you decide.  Neither way impacts my play in any significant way.
Lucidity Velderan
Human Rogue, 312 posts
Crime is common.
Logic is rare.
Mon 25 Sep 2023
at 13:53
  • msg #988

Re: The Pub Crawl:  OOC

Frilia Silverstring:
"I saw wisps as we came back, they followed us. They know we are here, which means we can't rest here. Pack up, we must move somewhere else.

Is this true?

Dungeon Master:
The journey back to the campsite was uneventful, if harrowing on nerves which expected whispers in the dark, and the flashing, sizzling touch of wisps appearing out of nowhere.

I interpreted the description to mean that we expected the Wisps to follow but they did not.
Lucidity Velderan
Human Rogue, 313 posts
Crime is common.
Logic is rare.
Mon 25 Sep 2023
at 15:21
  • msg #989

Re: The Pub Crawl:  OOC

Frilia, on what are you basing your claim that the wisps followed us?  Are you interpreting from the DM's post?  Or did you get info from a roll result?
Lucidity Velderan
Human Rogue, 318 posts
Crime is common.
Logic is rare.
Tue 26 Sep 2023
at 13:43
  • msg #990

Re: The Pub Crawl:  OOC

BTW, the animal pulling Lucy's cart is a mule.  Not a pony.  I'm good with either, but there do seem to be small differences.
Dungeon Master
GM, 646 posts
Tue 26 Sep 2023
at 14:01
  • msg #991

Re: The Pub Crawl:  OOC

Yep, thanks for for the pick-up on that.
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