OOC.   Posted by Gorum.Group: 0
Taliesin
 Player, 87 posts
 Human Druid
 Saurian Shaman
Fri 24 Jun 2022
at 00:23
Re: OOC
It's wild shape (with some early access from my archetype), so unfortunately I can't do magical beast forms. I don't think there is a way to add magical beasts to the mix, but I can check.
Puck
 player, 164 posts
 Player 6
 Wild Elf Hunter
Fri 24 Jun 2022
at 21:04
Re: OOC
Thanks for the tip about Wands Taliesin. Will probably still take one, but will have to think it trough more first.
Taliesin
 Player, 88 posts
 Human Druid
 Saurian Shaman
Sat 25 Jun 2022
at 21:25
Re: OOC
What kind of terrain is the road we are travelling on? I picked "sickening entanglement" as a spell, but preparing that spell makes little sense say if we know that we are traversing a barren mountain.

This message was last edited by the player at 21:25, Sat 25 June.

Gorum
 GM, 120 posts
 Our Lord in Iron
Sun 26 Jun 2022
at 01:09
Re: OOC
The road goes over mostly flat open fields, with some hills.  There's generally enough vegetation around to support an entangle spell.
Puck
 player, 165 posts
 Player 6
 Wild Elf Hunter
Sun 26 Jun 2022
at 13:04
Re: OOC
*checks the game menu*

Okay, I might be dumb and blind moment here. But did I miss something guys? *looks very confused*
Taliesin
 Player, 89 posts
 Human Druid
 Saurian Shaman
Sun 26 Jun 2022
at 13:25
Re: OOC
I don't think so. My question was a pre-emptive one. Since Tal is preparing his spells way before the encounter, but would also probably know what kind of terrain they will be travelling.

With that, he should be done though.

Looking at my expenses, maybe I should fit a Craft Wondrous Items in here somewhere. But my feat space is a bit tight, I still need like 2 feats to top this build off. Does anyone else consider taking an item creation feat in the near future?
Puck
 player, 166 posts
 Player 6
 Wild Elf Hunter
Sun 26 Jun 2022
at 16:06
Re: OOC
I may take that Feat next level? Planned to get Weapon Focus so I miss 5% less.

But ... Puck is shit at everything not related to making arrows/bows? Don't even have a Spellcraft skill. Heck, I didn't take my favourite Alchemy!

Though with Gorum letting us cooperate so Sesa have Alchemy, Taliesin could provide Spellcraft and then I could provide Craft Wondrous Item.

And then we make a nuke! :P
Uluchi Sesa
 player, 66 posts
 Cyro Serpent
Sun 26 Jun 2022
at 16:55
Re: OOC
The crafting rules let you use others w/o the crafting feat to provide requirements, yes. So we only need one copy of any particular crafting feat throughout the roster to get crafting rolling.

I'm more excited about getting a discount on my belt upgrade than on a nuke, but tomato tomato :P
Puck
 player, 167 posts
 Player 6
 Wild Elf Hunter
Sun 26 Jun 2022
at 22:08
Re: OOC
Then I would like to ask for an advice! What item crafting feat would be best for Puck to take?

Here are the options I contemplated:
-There are hollow-bullet style of arrows, that can be filled with Holy Water or a potion. That would mean Craft Potions would be choice to consider.

But Gorum gave moratorium on customizing items, thus I'm iffy. One thing is having a Fireball potion that explodes when vial is damaged, because auto-activation when outside of vial.

Another is having a potion-tipped arrow. Like the before-mentioned Fireball in arrow form. I think it would be pushing against rules Gorum established even with just potion-formed Fireball.

I, for example, would love potions of Vision of Body made for all aspects (to have all of them)!


Craft Wondrous Items have amazing utility, even when we are blocked from not-canon recipes. But it would, at best, cheapened our weakest items. Like my Efficient Quiver. It's nice touch but I wish to maximize utility we get from that Feat, yanno?

What would benefit the party the most? Scribe Scrolls? Craft Wand(so our Wizards can lob Fireballs everywhere)? Or the before mentioned CWI and CP feats.


Side note, are there books or something for Scrolls in Pathfinder? Saw such silly thing in one video game and grew curious. Imagine a book, but it's enchanted to absorb scrolls, and then you can mentally pick and cast from the absorbed library at your leisure while holding said book.
Uluchi Sesa
 player, 67 posts
 Cyro Serpent
Sun 26 Jun 2022
at 22:27
Re: OOC
Craft wonderous gives a discount on stat-boosting items; eg Belts and Headbands as well as Cloaks of Resistance, so 2/6ths of the 'Big Six'; keeping your stats as high as possible and your saves as high as possible are great paths to longevity as adventurers. As a kineticist, my belt of con is far and away my strongest item. Same to be said for headbands for our primary casters.

There are also more wonderous items than every other kind of magic item put together, I'd be willing to bet, so its hard to beat on the flexibility.

For your build in specific, if you want to enhance your ranged attacks, Craft Magics Arms and Armor is gonna be your best bang for buck; +1 enhancement on your bow is the most efficient DPS spend anytime it is affordable, pretty much.

It also enables you to craft specific weapons; there are specific arrows you could be utilizing like https://aonprd.com/MagicWeapon...temName=Vine%20Arrow on the low end or https://aonprd.com/MagicWeapon...ame=Sizzling%20Arrow on the medium end and end-game slinging https://aonprd.com/MagicWeapon...e=Blightburn%20Arrow for big numbers.

Party wide, I think Wonderous is definitely the first priority, followed by Arms & Armor, then probably Rings or Amulets. Wands and scrolls are fine imho but they also tend to not be hugely expensive; they also have real diminishing returns for higher level spells, most of the best wands and scrolls are already affordable, even at double price. If it is a wand of fireballs your after though, yeah, its a bit prohibitive w/o the crafting to bring the price down.

Scroll book, yeah there is an equivalent https://aonprd.com/MagicWondro...tful%20Scroll%20Case

And a more expensive version that just absorbs spells to create a 'scroll' on a charge basis  https://aonprd.com/MagicWondro...ablet%20of%20Arustun
Koyrai Dellex
 player, 82 posts
 HP 27/27, AC 17
 Samsaran Arcanist
Sun 26 Jun 2022
at 22:44
Re: OOC
I wasn't really planning to take any item crafting feats in the near future, but might be persuaded to take craft wondrous items. It would definitely be useful, and it would make sense for Koyrai to be the one to take the feat.

If Koyrai happens to die in the next encounter though, I was thinking my next character might be a construct crafter of some sort. Which would include taking the feats Craft Wondrous Items, Craft Magic Arms and Armor, and Craft Construct.
Koyrai Dellex
 player, 83 posts
 HP 27/27, AC 17
 Samsaran Arcanist
Mon 27 Jun 2022
at 00:30
Re: OOC
I believe Koyrai is now ready for the next fight.
Puck
 player, 168 posts
 Player 6
 Wild Elf Hunter
Mon 27 Jun 2022
at 06:58
Re: OOC
Thank you for a very good analysis, Sesa. You convinced me that party will benefit the most from Create Wondrous Items feat. More than from Weapon Focus for Puck, that is. :)

Kyorai? Why so defeatist? If Puck takes CWI, you could totes take remaining requirements for golem crafting. But then I wanna a armor-golem! So Puck could totally-not-Gundam peeps.^^

Koyrai Dellex:
I believe Koyrai is now ready for the next fight.

I just wait for a final judgement from Gorum, too. :)
Patagogi
 player, 74 posts
Mon 27 Jun 2022
at 07:01
Re: OOC
So will we be able to get cheaper items than this time around or next?
Puck
 player, 169 posts
 Player 6
 Wild Elf Hunter
Mon 27 Jun 2022
at 09:04
Re: OOC
Patagogi:
So will we be able to get cheaper items than this time around or next?

Some of them, without a doubt. Remember the crafting time-limit. We have 4 weeks between adventures, each time. If you want Armor+5 of Heavy Fortification? Takes hundred days, on average. So wait of two to three adventures. With 3 crafters cooperating, of course. :)

If we survive to lvl 7? I agreed with our witch and wizard to take Craft Wondrous Items for Puck. It would let us significantly cut into cost of universal items we have, like my Efficient Quiver. Worthy trade-off but won't be immediately available, you remember my craft rolls with the arrows?

Results won't be as disappointing, but slow-ish. Anyhow, without Craft Magic Arms and Armors we are collectively rather fucked anyway! ;)
Gorum
 GM, 121 posts
 Our Lord in Iron
Mon 27 Jun 2022
at 14:47
Re: OOC
@Patagogi:  Nobody has taken any item creation feats for this level, from what I can tell.

@Everyone:  So far, Puck and Koyrai have confirmed being done their character sheets.  Is everyone else ready to go?
Taliesin
 Player, 90 posts
 Human Druid
 Saurian Shaman
Mon 27 Jun 2022
at 14:51
Re: OOC
Tal and Fandor are also done.
Uluchi Sesa
 player, 68 posts
 Cyro Serpent
Mon 27 Jun 2022
at 15:42
Re: OOC
Yep, Uluchi has been done for awhile.

This message was last edited by the player at 16:59, Mon 27 June.

Veana
 player, 99 posts
 Angelkin Paladin
 Warrior of the Holy Light
Mon 27 Jun 2022
at 16:02
Re: OOC
Sorry, I've been dealing with a lot IRL lately due to work and other stuff, so I've been unresponsive and a bit delayed. I did everything BUT shop for Veana, which I'll try to get to either today or tomorrow at the latest.

Thanks for your patience! :)
Puck
 player, 170 posts
 Player 6
 Wild Elf Hunter
Mon 27 Jun 2022
at 21:26
Re: OOC
Puck is finished shoppin'. I can borrow up to 67 gp?
Veana
 player, 100 posts
 Angelkin Paladin
 Warrior of the Holy Light
Tue 28 Jun 2022
at 14:59
Re: OOC
Should be done now and I've got like 265gp to spare, in case anyone needs it or has an idea of how to spend that!
Puck
 player, 171 posts
 Player 6
 Wild Elf Hunter
Tue 28 Jun 2022
at 15:14
Re: OOC
Veana:
Should be done now and I've got like 265gp to spare, in case anyone needs it or has an idea of how to spend that!

Since we will be fighting against humans? Some anti-poison, I think. Or grenades, grenades are good.
Taliesin
 Player, 91 posts
 Human Druid
 Saurian Shaman
Sun 3 Jul 2022
at 13:34
Re: OOC
So...

Are we still waiting for someone?
Puck
 player, 172 posts
 Player 6
 Wild Elf Hunter
Sun 3 Jul 2022
at 14:43
Re: OOC
Taliesin:
So...

Are we still waiting for someone?

No idea. Hopefully everyone is okay.
Gorum
 GM, 122 posts
 Our Lord in Iron
Sun 3 Jul 2022
at 15:05
Re: OOC
Nope, looks like we're good to go.  I'll start the encounter either tonight or tomorrow.