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OOC.

Posted by GorumFor group 0
Uluchi Sesa
player, 39 posts
Cyro Serpent
Sat 4 Jun 2022
at 20:46
  • msg #388

Re: OOC

I would like Ashen Path if we gonna smoke this place out, yes. Hence why I reserved 200 gp for scroll of it if necessary.
Gorum
GM, 88 posts
Our Lord in Iron
Sat 4 Jun 2022
at 21:04
  • msg #389

Re: OOC

Between Taliesin's scroll and Puck's spell, there's enough ashen path for 8 targets.  Assuming it's spread out as much as possible, that's enough for all 6 PCs, Tal's animal companion, and either Koyrai's Pebble or Patagogi's unnamed ioun wyrd familiar.
Koyrai Dellex
player, 59 posts
HP 17/17, AC 17
Samsaran Arcanist
Sat 4 Jun 2022
at 22:44
  • msg #390

Re: OOC

I can donate funds to upgrade the scroll, if desired. I seem to have a spare 300.
Taliesin
Player, 56 posts
Human Druid
Saurian Shaman
Sat 4 Jun 2022
at 23:05
  • msg #391

Re: OOC

Didn't know we had a 9th target for ashen tbh. It's just a 100g (which I don't have) to bump the scroll CL to 4 if we want both familiars to have the buff.
Koyrai Dellex
player, 60 posts
HP 17/17, AC 17
Samsaran Arcanist
Sat 4 Jun 2022
at 23:31
  • msg #392

Re: OOC

Might as well. I will mark off the money on my sheet.
Gorum
GM, 89 posts
Our Lord in Iron
Sun 5 Jun 2022
at 01:30
  • msg #393

Re: OOC

I realized that I hadn't mentioned/thought of ceiling height until Puck cast spider climb.  The tomb's ceiling is about 10 high, meaning that climbing on the ceiling will give you the +1 height advantage to melee attacks, but most enemies on the ground can still attack you in melee.

Unless I'm misunderstanding the rules, enlarge person is still castable in that space: your growth would stop at 10' tall, but that's still enough to make you large and give you the spell's benefits.
Gorum
GM, 91 posts
Our Lord in Iron
Sun 5 Jun 2022
at 20:44
  • msg #394

Re: OOC

Taliesin:
Gorum:
Battle 3: A Knight's Grave.

I really hope this isn't a play on "yeah you're gonna get impaled by a graveknight".

I regret to inform you that it was, in fact, a play on "yeah, you're gonna get impaled by a graveknight".
This message was last edited by the GM at 20:44, Sun 05 June 2022.
Taliesin
Player, 57 posts
Human Druid
Saurian Shaman
Mon 6 Jun 2022
at 00:51
  • msg #395

Re: OOC

Oh boy, it's a melee machine.

Glaive, Bite (Slam? maybe for when he drops the glaive? Seems odd), plus Template Strength + Bull's Strength. Yeah, he is going to hit hard. Covers a good reach, doubt he can more than one AoO with that Touch AC. Still, be careful about where you end up and whether you move through his reach.


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I'm guessing we are looking at an Antipaladin 6 Graveknight here. HD seems low (well for a Graveknight, can't be a graveknight without 5HD) but saves are high, thus my guess. Maybe a +1 cloak and L.Reflexes to shore up the Reflex? Hard to judge. I am expecting a smite on smite action here.

Lady could be a Ghast? I don't remember what other undead had stench.


This message was last edited by the player at 00:52, Mon 06 June 2022.
Uluchi Sesa
player, 41 posts
Cyro Serpent
Mon 6 Jun 2022
at 02:07
  • msg #396

Re: OOC

So, I'mna have 0% efficacy on big boy, remains to be seen for the Lady, but the boney boy has 100% immunity to Uluchi's damage.
Veana
player, 73 posts
Angelkin Paladin
Warrior of the Holy Light
Mon 6 Jun 2022
at 03:01
  • msg #397

Re: OOC

Can Veana get some knowledge checks on these two when the door opens?

23:00, Today: Veana rolled 15,24 using d20+9,d20+9.  First roll for lady, second for grave knight (Kn. Religion check).
Gorum
GM, 92 posts
Our Lord in Iron
Mon 6 Jun 2022
at 03:26
  • msg #398

Re: OOC

Those rolls are enough for Veana to confirm that the lady is in fact, a ghast, and the lord is a grave knight.
(https://www.d20pfsrd.com/besti...d/ghoul/ghoul-ghast/)
(https://www.d20pfsrd.com/besti...es/graveknight-cr-2/)

Class levels aren't immediately clear, though they're both wearing unholy symbols of Baphomet.
This message was last edited by the GM at 03:27, Mon 06 June 2022.
Koyrai Dellex
player, 62 posts
HP 27/27, AC 17
Samsaran Arcanist
Mon 6 Jun 2022
at 04:22
  • msg #399

Re: OOC

Looks like I probably know the same information. Do I know anything different?

00:21, Today: Koyrai Dellex rolled 25,21 using 1d20+14,1d20+14.  Knowledge: Religion - grave knight and ghast.
Gorum
GM, 93 posts
Our Lord in Iron
Mon 6 Jun 2022
at 04:50
  • msg #400

Re: OOC

Nope, you know the same information.

EDIT: Also, I should mention that smokesticks need to be burned in order to work.  We can retcon to say that Koyrai was holding a torch or candle or something at the beginning, since he was clearly planning to use the smokestick from the start.
This message was last edited by the GM at 04:59, Mon 06 June 2022.
Puck
player, 119 posts
Player 6
Wild Elf Hunter
Mon 6 Jun 2022
at 06:37
  • msg #401

Re: OOC

Boo hoo, I missed. And very cool introduction.

I think that unholy symbol will be what our NPC contact needs for proper crusade against those nobles, no?
Patagogi
player, 61 posts
Mon 6 Jun 2022
at 07:44
  • msg #402

Re: OOC

Am I protected by the ashen path?
Gorum
GM, 94 posts
Our Lord in Iron
Mon 6 Jun 2022
at 08:17
  • msg #403

Re: OOC

Yes
Koyrai Dellex
player, 64 posts
HP 27/27, AC 17
Samsaran Arcanist
Mon 6 Jun 2022
at 08:40
  • msg #404

Re: OOC

Gorum:
Nope, you know the same information.

EDIT: Also, I should mention that smokesticks need to be burned in order to work.  We can retcon to say that Koyrai was holding a torch or candle or something at the beginning, since he was clearly planning to use the smokestick from the start.

Thanks.

Also, oops. But yeah, Koyrai has ten torches, ten candles, and flint and steel, so having a fire source ready to go shouldn't have been a problem.
Veana
player, 74 posts
Angelkin Paladin
Warrior of the Holy Light
Mon 6 Jun 2022
at 14:25
  • msg #405

Re: OOC

So question -- since walking through threatened squares will provoke an AoO from Mr. Grave Knight, would he still get such a chance if Veana is invisible? I couldn't remember whether I  just need to roll Stealth to see whether he even notices, or the fact that I'm invisible will prevent him from taking an AOO at all.
Gorum
GM, 95 posts
Our Lord in Iron
Mon 6 Jun 2022
at 15:30
  • msg #406

Re: OOC

Total concealment prevents AoOs
Taliesin
Player, 59 posts
Human Druid
Saurian Shaman
Mon 6 Jun 2022
at 15:40
  • msg #407

Re: OOC

There can be an opposed stealth/perception roll to pinpoint Veana, but that's largely irrelevant for AoO. Even if you know what square the enemy is, if they have total concealment you can't make an AoO against them.

Also thinking about it, I shouldn't have rolled acrobatics for Fandor. They didn't act yet therefore they are flat-footed and can't take AoO until they act.
This message was last edited by the player at 15:47, Mon 06 June 2022.
Puck
player, 121 posts
Player 6
Wild Elf Hunter
Mon 6 Jun 2022
at 16:42
  • msg #408

Re: OOC

I don't believe invisible people threaten AoOs. Unless said Grave Knight could see trough invisibility, but then Gorum would tell ya that undead sees you, and Lord I-Wanna-Kill-More would certainly take a stab at you.

By the way, I probably should shoot at the Lady It's-Perfume-I-Swear. I can hit the Grave Knight only on natural 20. So that shot was wasted.
Veana
player, 75 posts
Angelkin Paladin
Warrior of the Holy Light
Mon 6 Jun 2022
at 17:15
  • msg #409

Re: OOC

Thanks for clarifying!

A follow up question, because I haven't found an official answer on this. Can a paladin smite two targets at once? Sure, it takes a swift action to smite, and the smite effects remain in place until the target is dead. However, with 2 daily uses, can I smite one target in my first round, and then smite the other in the second round without worrying about ending the earlier smite?
Taliesin
Player, 60 posts
Human Druid
Saurian Shaman
Mon 6 Jun 2022
at 17:24
  • msg #410

Re: OOC

AFAIK nothing in the text implies that a later smite would end a previous smite. You should be fine.
Puck
player, 122 posts
Player 6
Wild Elf Hunter
Mon 6 Jun 2022
at 17:28
  • msg #411

Re: OOC

I think it depends on how your Smite works. I admit being deliberately uninterested in Paladin mechanics, so it makes me speculate more now ... apologies if I spout gibberish.

It's Mindflayer's fault. ;)

If Smite enchances an attack? Then, at best, it would let you harm another valid target only if you have Cleave or other Multi-attack method.

By multi-attack method I mean method to attack many with single attack !

If Smite is a short buff on you? Flail away. :P

But just in case? Bag the cleric. It's stressful when Lady I-Don't-Stink uses her scroll to cast Harm on the Grave Knight whom we whittled down slowly to low HP, yanno?
Veana
player, 76 posts
Angelkin Paladin
Warrior of the Holy Light
Mon 6 Jun 2022
at 17:35
  • msg #412

Re: OOC

Taliesin:
AFAIK nothing in the text implies that a later smite would end a previous smite. You should be fine.


That's how I'm reading it as well. It's important, because it will influence my first action.

@Puck Smite Evil gives me a buff to attack/damage and to my AC vs the target until they are dead or the following day when I regain my daily uses of the ability. But nothing in the ability says only 1 target can have smite evil active on them or not, which is why I was curious about it. But for example, it doesn't mention target limitation in the way that the Ranger's Quarry ability does, so I think as long as I have uses of it, I should hypothetically speaking be able to smite both of these baddies, but just in different rounds since it does require a swift action for me to smite them.

@Gorum -- I'm also trying to understand whether smiting someone will break my invisibility if I don't follow up with an attack? Rules around invisibility call attacks and spells that target a foe, but Smite is neither? Could I get an official ruling on this?

Based on that, I can either drink a pot, smite GK and move into position while still invisible and wait for the surprise attack next round after smiting Lady Ghast over there. Or if I become visible due to smiting, I'll have to rethink drinking the potion and just moving into position, smiting followed up by an attack on whoever I can reach of these two.
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