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OOC.

Posted by GorumFor group 0
Gorum
GM, 99 posts
Our Lord in Iron
Tue 7 Jun 2022
at 08:17
  • msg #424

Re: OOC

The grave knight is the one blasting you, and he's only 20 ft away.

As for the HP, I'm not sure how you're getting 78.  You have 58 normally, and raging makes your con go up by 6 due to raging vitality.  That's +3 HP per level.  Am I missing something?
Patagogi
player, 64 posts
Tue 7 Jun 2022
at 08:22
  • msg #425

Re: OOC

Well I actually missed it as well.

When I rage I get +4 to con and with raging vitality another +2.  So +3 per lvl.  So yea I was adding something wrong lol. 73 is right thanks for checking.
Taliesin
Player, 63 posts
Human Druid
Saurian Shaman
Tue 7 Jun 2022
at 08:27
  • msg #426

Re: OOC

At first, I had thought a cone wouldn't hit the F or H rows, which is why I hadn't declared an immediate action. But I think it still can't hit one of them. The cone starts from a corner, which looks like it would put one of the rows in total cover depending on which corner it started at.
Gorum
GM, 100 posts
Our Lord in Iron
Tue 7 Jun 2022
at 08:38
  • msg #427

Re: OOC

A fair point, I forgot you have to go from the corner.  After rolling randomly to see which side got spared, it turns out Koyrai didn't get caught in the blast.
This message was last edited by the GM at 08:39, Tue 07 June 2022.
Koyrai Dellex
player, 65 posts
HP 27/27, AC 17
Samsaran Arcanist
Tue 7 Jun 2022
at 08:54
  • msg #428

Re: OOC

Gorum:
A fair point, I forgot you have to go from the corner.  After rolling randomly to see which side got spared, it turns out Koyrai didn't get caught in the blast.

Woohoo! Both Pebble and I would have survived (Pebble only because of Improved Evasion), but we would both have been really really hurt.
Veana
player, 78 posts
Angelkin Paladin
Warrior of the Holy Light
Tue 7 Jun 2022
at 12:46
  • msg #429

Re: OOC

Taking damage makes me lose invisibility? Or were you just trying to show where Veana is in terms of the cone blast? She should still be invisible, no?
Taliesin
Player, 64 posts
Human Druid
Saurian Shaman
Tue 7 Jun 2022
at 14:01
  • msg #430

Re: OOC

Veana looks to be invisible, the buff is still in the notes. I think she wasn't on the image in the last turn because Puck was also on that square.
Veana
player, 79 posts
Angelkin Paladin
Warrior of the Holy Light
Tue 7 Jun 2022
at 14:03
  • msg #431

Re: OOC

Taliesin:
Veana looks to be invisible, the buff is still in the notes. I think she wasn't on the image in the last turn because Puck was also on that square.


Got it. Alright, gonna go post my action now so we can keep this moving :)

EDIT: Actually, I do have one last question before posting! A paladin can use LoH to heal themselves as a Swift action rather than a Standard one. But, if they have already used their Swift action, couldn't they use LoH on themselves as a Standard action to heal as well? If I can heal someone else with a Standard, it feels like I should be able to do it on myself too, right?
This message was last edited by the player at 14:12, Tue 07 June 2022.
Taliesin
Player, 65 posts
Human Druid
Saurian Shaman
Tue 7 Jun 2022
at 14:30
  • msg #432

Re: OOC

I think RAW they have to use a swift action for self-heal. But I've seen ruled otherwise in a bunch of games. So that's probably gonna have to wait for a ruling from Gorum.

Also, I've noticed a couple of mistakes on my end. Fandor's attack bonus was wrong (still hits, I forgot to add the greater magic fang bonus) and forgot that Vine Strike increased the damage even if the reflex save is made. I rolled the extra damage just now (it was just a d6, rolled 4).
Veana
player, 80 posts
Angelkin Paladin
Warrior of the Holy Light
Tue 7 Jun 2022
at 14:42
  • msg #433

Re: OOC

Taliesin:
I think RAW they have to use a swift action for self-heal. But I've seen ruled otherwise in a bunch of games. So that's probably gonna have to wait for a ruling from Gorum.


Yes, I do think it is that way in RAW, although maybe poorly written. At least in my mind, the idea of a Swift action self-heal is meant to help them tank and what not, but it feels like it should be an either/or thing. If I can spend a Standard action healing the wounds of another by touch, why couldn't I do that on myself? lol
Koyrai Dellex
player, 66 posts
HP 27/27, AC 17
Samsaran Arcanist
Tue 7 Jun 2022
at 15:48
  • msg #434

Re: OOC

Can't you just take a second swift action in place of a standard action? The same way you can take a second move action in place of a standard action? It seems silly that you wouldn't be able to replace a slow action with one that is faster.
Taliesin
Player, 66 posts
Human Druid
Saurian Shaman
Tue 7 Jun 2022
at 15:50
  • msg #435

Re: OOC

You can't downgrade to a swift. There is even a magic item that just allows you to use a move action to get an extra swift action once per day. (Corset of Delicate Moves)
Koyrai Dellex
player, 67 posts
HP 27/27, AC 17
Samsaran Arcanist
Tue 7 Jun 2022
at 15:55
  • msg #436

Re: OOC

That seems odd to me, but I believe you.
Veana
player, 81 posts
Angelkin Paladin
Warrior of the Holy Light
Tue 7 Jun 2022
at 16:59
  • msg #437

Re: OOC

Well, its because action economy is important, and being able to take multiple swift actions could be OP. For example, a Monk can spend 1 Ki as a swift action to gain +4 dodge bonus to AC. If he could "downgrade" an action to get another swift, he could then spend 1 more Ki and since doge bonuses stack, now have a hefty +8 bonus to their AC.

There are other examples I'm sure. Where I'm curious in this case is since Veana can use LoH to heal others or harm undead as a standard action, and use it to heal herself as a swift action, whether she could still use a standard to heal herself--and not just other targets--if her swift action had already been spent. A very orthodox reading of RAW say no, that's not possible, but I'm curious as to what Gorum has to say because there's some shades of grey there I think, and arguments can be made for either stance.
Gorum
GM, 101 posts
Our Lord in Iron
Tue 7 Jun 2022
at 18:44
  • msg #438

Re: OOC

I'm gonna go with the rules as written, even if they're a bit strange.  Veana can channel energy as a standard action, though.
Veana
player, 82 posts
Angelkin Paladin
Warrior of the Holy Light
Tue 7 Jun 2022
at 18:48
  • msg #439

Re: OOC

Gorum:
I'm gonna go with the rules as written, even if they're a bit strange.  Veana can channel energy as a standard action, though.


This is true, and it won't break my invisibility because I get EITHER a heal or harm undead, not both :)
Gorum
GM, 102 posts
Our Lord in Iron
Tue 7 Jun 2022
at 19:03
  • msg #440

Re: OOC

Keep in mind the grave knight's aura of sacrilege forces a concentration check on any use of positive energy, even if it isn't a spell.  In this case veana's "caster level" would be her character level and her "casting" stat would be charisma, for a total of +11.
Veana
player, 84 posts
Angelkin Paladin
Warrior of the Holy Light
Tue 7 Jun 2022
at 19:04
  • msg #441

Re: OOC

Gorum:
Keep in mind the grave knight's aura of sacrilege forces a concentration check on any use of positive energy, even if it isn't a spell.  In this case veana's "caster level" would be her character level and her "casting" stat would be charisma, for a total of +11.


I succeeded. It's a +11? I thought it would be only a +10?

EDIT: NVM, miscalculated my own Charisma...silly me! Well, then I pass with a 22 instead of a 21! xD
This message was last edited by the player at 19:04, Tue 07 June 2022.
Veana
player, 85 posts
Angelkin Paladin
Warrior of the Holy Light
Tue 7 Jun 2022
at 19:52
  • msg #442

Re: OOC

@Gorum -- also noticed I misread map when I was looking at it on my phone...and I meant to have Veana at H20, adjacent to Missus Ghastly, so just edited post to reflect that. Sorry about confusion there! I realized H19 didn't put me in range of attacking anyone anyway...LOL, so definitely wouldn't have picked THAT spot!
Taliesin
Player, 67 posts
Human Druid
Saurian Shaman
Tue 7 Jun 2022
at 20:42
  • msg #443

Re: OOC

Could've 5ft before attacking :)

Honestly, I thought you moved to that square to get the high ground advantage on the mr. grave.
Veana
player, 86 posts
Angelkin Paladin
Warrior of the Holy Light
Tue 7 Jun 2022
at 21:33
  • msg #444

Re: OOC

Taliesin:
Could've 5ft before attacking :)

Honestly, I thought you moved to that square to get the high ground advantage on the mr. grave.


Oh, this is true! Lol, totally forgot about the 5-ft. step! Been a long day at work xD
Puck
player, 125 posts
Player 6
Wild Elf Hunter
Tue 7 Jun 2022
at 22:47
  • msg #445

Re: OOC

Holy moly, things happen rapidly when you don't pay attention. :)
Apologies, will write something in the morning. Too tired now to think.
Gorum
GM, 103 posts
Our Lord in Iron
Wed 8 Jun 2022
at 00:28
  • msg #446

Re: OOC

Sorry Veana, hopping onto a raised platform as part of a move action requires a DC 10 acrobatics check.  Without making the check (which will knock you prone if you fail by 5 or more), you'll have to spend a separate move action to clamber up.
Veana
player, 87 posts
Angelkin Paladin
Warrior of the Holy Light
Wed 8 Jun 2022
at 00:46
  • msg #447

Re: OOC

Gorum:
Sorry Veana, hopping onto a raised platform as part of a move action requires a DC 10 acrobatics check.  Without making the check (which will knock you prone if you fail by 5 or more), you'll have to spend a separate move action to clamber up.


Ok, totally misunderstood that then. I'll edit again with my actual position then.
Puck
player, 127 posts
Player 6
Wild Elf Hunter
Wed 8 Jun 2022
at 06:42
  • msg #448

Re: OOC

Och lol. I didn't drop grenade on Veana's head by inattention! Progress. :D

Also my ability to injure Lord Olinescu is limited to two more such moves and I made attack roll vs the square near Lord I-Wanna-Rip-Puck's-Entrails to see if I threw it randomly, fortunately floor have shit AC compared with our resident tin-can-of-angery-coldness.

Tindertwig takes up space in one hand, and once ignited as move action burn for a minute. Anyone needs a smoke? :P
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