To let us start discussing the game.

I think we should have a solid Tank, Healer, Skill Monkey, and Arcanist type for the group, with 1-2 characters that can play support/secondary positions.

I would like to play the psionic one then. Is there someone against me taking the blaster route?

Also, can we propose other sources? https://dndtools.net/ have most of the official 3.5 things.
This message was last edited by the player at 17:37, Fri 06 May 2022.

Do we have a Skill monkey?

I am going to say no, just because there are so many resources on that site that I do not have access to in person. I do provide a rather extensive list of books to draw from, so if you cannot build it from there, perhaps a different concept is in order. If there is a feat or prestige class that you would like, I will examine it to see if it can be integrated into the game without breaking it.

As a reminder, anything from a source outside of the PHB has to have DM approval. If it is drawn from one of the books listed, it is a probable yes.

I also would like to limit the psionics in the campaign (they are rare in the Realms), so no more than a player or two should have classes or abilities that are psionic in nature (that being an exceptional number considering the rarity).
This message was last edited by the GM at 18:04, Fri 06 May 2022.

Will you allow 2 PrCs to be gestalted?

I am leaning towards no / it depends, perhaps a group decision once the others join?

I'm likely to be a bit of a skill monkey and addition to supporting via Ranged combat.

So we have our primary Skill Monkey in Player Three.

As a reminder, this is finals week, so I will be hit and miss when it comes to updates, my apologies, but I have been far too active this weekend as is.

Good luck on the finals. Will give us some time to work out the characters :)

For the other players I am looking at an archer build who will also be covering a large amount of skills. Anyone looking at a tank and/or healer?

After consideration of some applicants, I put out a Player's Wanted for other new applicants to join the adventuring/mercenary group. As they roll in I will review them and if they seem likely to mesh well in the group, present them to you all to vote upon.

I believe I'm handling healer :)

With the flood of RTJ's from this morning, I am closing applications until I can go over them and submit them to you guys for consideration.

Sounds good to me. Let me know if I can do anything to assist.

On character creation are you ok with 36,000gp for 9th Level characters to select equipment including magic items? and also with HP did you want to roll or should we use the dice roller on here to record?

Proposed Characters from RTJ so far:

Silver Dragon
Aasimar Paladin // Fighter
Tiefling Slayer of Domiel
Elan Telepath // Rogue
Human Healer 9 // Warlock 6 / Enlightened Spirit 3
Tiefling Urban Ranger // Beguiler
Aasimar Druid // Sorceress
Human Scout 9 // Ranger 5 / Ranger Knight of Impiltur 4 (griffin rider)
Illumian Cloistered Cleric / Runecaster // Ranger / Scout
Human Binder // Spellthief (still in discussion)
Elven Sorcerer 8 / Master Transmogrifist 1 // Rogue 9
Pixie Scout // Warlock
Human Druid // Sorcerer / Loremaster
Half-Orc Barbarian // Fighter (unarmed specialist)
Halfling Paladin // Ranger (mounted combat)
Human Warblade 9 // Barbarian 6 / Frenzied Berserker 3
Tiefling Conjurer // Beguiler
Half-Dragon Fighter / Sorcerer / Abjurant Champion
Cansin Hexblade // Spellthief
Human Rogue 9 / Warrior 5, Master Thrower 4
Succubus // Paladin
Domain Wizard (Conjuration) 5 / Mage of the Arcane Order 4 // Sorcerer 9
This message was last edited by the GM at 05:49, Thu 12 May 2022.

Starting wealth same 36,000 gp, perhaps no more than 1/3 spend on one item.

Maximum HPs for characters.

Some interesting options in there.

Never seen a silver dragon pc before, sounds interesting but also super challenging. Assume they would be hiding that and pretending to be a Mage or such?

I like the Aasimar Paladin / Fighter idea as well as the Aasimar Druid / Sorceress and Human Druid / Sorcerer / Loremaster.

I believe Player 2 is doing a healer? But never say no to more healing. Are there anyone you think stand out?

So, if I understand:

Player 1: healer (me)
Player 3: skill monkey/Archer (so support/secondary character as not a tank or arcanist type

This means we are still looking for:

1. Tank
2. Arcanist type
3. support/secondary
4. Support/secondary

(Not sure what roll Player 2 is going for?)

Of the applications listed, I'd go with:

1. Jotunbrud Warblade/Frenzied Berserker. (I'm a bit bias, I suppose, as it is my brother, but also the tankiest of proposals that I see...)

2. Either of the druid//sorcerers(-esses) or the master transmogrifist for arcanist type (surprisingly no wizard applicants).

3/4. Whichever provides the most utility/fills the most holes in the skills and abilities already covered. ??
This message was last edited by the player at 12:19, Wed 11 May 2022.

I was looking at healer, but since 1 wanted it wholesale, I'm happy to let him have it without complaint - I had far too many other concepts I wanted to play out anyway.

Sorry for the delay out here - I wanted to confirm my choices with the GM before presuming anything about a current build plan.

I will be running a human Warblade/Psion for the tank role more than the arcanist.  I'll be going pure on the Warblade side but I'm not settled on any psionic prestige class.  I may ask for one once I see party composition.


So my thoughts for a 5-man are:

Player 1 - Healer
Player 2 - Tank/some magic
Player 3 - Skills/Ranged
Player 4 - Either of the Druid/Sorcerers
Plater 5 - Silver Dragon or Paladin/Ranger

Given my previous comment of:"surprisingly no wizard" for the position of arcanist, I change my vote to the domain wizard//sorcerers...can't get much more arcanist than that.

Yeah, that seems good.  I'd add Wizard/sorc as the 6th member of my party list.

Player 3: are you in agreement with the Wizard//Sorcerer as the 6th member?

My current vision of the party:

Player 1 - Healer
Player 2 - Tank/some magic
Player 3 - Skills/Ranged
Player 4 - Domain Wizard//Sorcerer (arcanist)
Player 5 - Either of the Druid/Sorcerers (secondary support)
Player 6 - Elan Telepath//Rogue (secondary support)

My "magic" is blade magic and psionics and I know we wanted to keep the latter low.  I'd be good with your list but would prefer the Silver dragon or paladin/ranger over the Elan.

(Not wanting to fight about it, just putting my opinion out there.)

I obviously don't know people's character's alignments but being Chaotic I'd prefer to avoid as many lawful as possible (silver dragons and Paladins, unless an alignment variant, are lawful).

My guess is that the DM added the Elan telepath to the list as our selecting a second psionic user is acceptable? If that is the case, my choice for the Elan telepath stands.  If I'm mistaken, I'll leave the choice up to player 2 and 3.
This message was last edited by the player at 20:42, Thu 12 May 2022.

DM added all characters submitted to the list as they were presented to him.

Some proposed multiple concepts, so I listed them all.

Outsiders are the only ones where I am strictest about alignment, mostly due to subtypes and how the Mythal would react around Silverymoon. I do offer ways to mitigate that for character concepts via Sanctified and Wish spells, but that creates a background which means that character owes or has a service to fulfill their debt.

Dragons are close to alignment restricts compared to outsiders, but not as tightly bound.

Evil Outsider 1 in 1,000,000 may be neutral, 1 in 1,000,000,000 may be good. A reasonable backstory and magical alterations would explain it better for a PC to have their alignment be different in my opinion.

Dragon 1 in 1,000 may have a variant on the Lawful/Chaos axis, 1 in 1,000,000 on the Good/Evil axis.

Lawful Good, Neutral Good, and Chaotic Good can all work together well, especially as part of an adventuring/mercenary company. Even Lawful Neutral and True Neutral if everyone's boundaries are discussed beforehand.

Welcome player 4, our Arcane spot.

Do we want to stop at 4 or 5 or 6?

Also, if you can give me the names of your characters, I can update them properly.

Jerinvar

Welcome player 4!

So, I am setting this game up prior to the Spellplague and fall of the Marches for an idea of timeframe in the Realms.

anyone have just a plain, basic, character sheet template with a whole bunch of code?

Found one for anyone that might want to use it:

CHARACTER NAME  :
RACE            :
ALIGNMENT       :
SIZE            :
SPEED           :

LEVEL BREAKDOWN

ECL : Class 1 / Class 2 : BAB : Fort : Ref  : Will : HD-HP
1   :
2   :
3   :

TOTAL

EXPERIENCE      : 0 / 1,000
CASH            : 200 gp

ABILITY SCORES
Name Total Mod   Pts. Base Race Levl Enha Misc
Str
Dex
Con
Int
Wis
Chr

SAVES Total   Clas Stat Resi Misc
FORT:
REF :
WILL:

HIT POINTS   :

AC    Total    Base Dext Armo Shie Natu Dodg Misc
Std   :
Tou   :
Flft  :
FF&T  :

INITIATIVE   :
BASE ATTACK  :

WEAPON       To Hit      Damage     Crit   Special



LANGUAGES
  Common

RACIAL TRAITS



CLASS FEATURES



FEATS
LVL  1
LVL  3

SKILLS
Skill        Total     Rank CCRa Stat Race Syne Comp Misc



EQUIPMENT
Cost   Name (book if other than PHB/DMG)


CONSUMED EQUIPMENT
Name



SPELLCASTING
            Spells/day
Type   CL   0  1  2  3  4  5  6


Spellbook/Spells Known

Spells Prepared

Thanks Player 1

BTW, I'm your brother... I put in for Arcane Caster when Player 2 took the Tank role.

Ah!!! Glad you got in :)

If you have a Myth Weaver account (free) you can access their sheets:

https://www.myth-weavers.com/sheet.html#id=2638220

They fill in the attribute bonuses automatically throughout the whole sheet.

Player 2, besides Novelty what's the draw to a dragon character?

What do they bring to the table that would out weigh what the Telepath//Rogue (as secondary support) would bring in a dungeon crawl?

My vote for support roles would be:

1 - Illumian Cloistered Cleric / Runecaster // Ranger / Scout

2 - Human Druid // Sorcerer / Loremaster

Nin Vinto will be my name.

Silver Dragon or Paladin/Ranger vs Telepath/Rogue - melee potential, mystery factor, and if we've got a died in the wool lawful guy, I'll go neutral instead of lawful.  As a mercenary adventuring group, at least one straight-laced guy just makes sense, and a variety of alignments is always nice.  Also, IC conflict between characters (with players on good terms OOC) adds a lot to RP and stories.  Also, Also: I have had a ton of bad experiences with only chaotic parties.

EDIT: As you may have noticed, I'm not just going for mechanical advantage with character selection (or my build for that matter) but story.
This message was last edited by the player at 02:31, Fri 13 May 2022.

Hey everyone.

Im going Ranger/Scout/Beastmaster with a focus on ranged combat and covering all those nice rogue skills amongst other things and being the groups eyes and ears.

Keryth Silverbow will be my characters name.

Im likely to be CG :)

Any Take on support characters Player 3

Aasimar Druid // Sorceress
Human Druid // Sorcerer / Loremaster
Domain Wizard (Conjuration) 5 / Mage of the Arcane Order 4 // Sorcerer 9

In no particular order probably the above stand out to me.

No issues if others are selected though.

That 3/4 on the Human Druid // Sorcerer / Loremaster

I am the Domain Wizard (Conjuration) 5 / Mage of the Arcane Order 4 // Sorcerer 9

I would be fine with the Elan Telepath//Rogue (secondary support)

that's 2/4 Player 3?

Elan Telepath / Rogue is fine with me too.

So unless Player 2 objects

Elan Telepath / Rogue

and

Human Druid // Sorcerer / Loremaster

Both have 3 votes for support characters.
This message was last edited by the player at 03:47, Fri 13 May 2022.

Majority wins, no issues here.

I will be adding characters soon.

A question that is coming up is do we allow Prestige classes on both sides of the progression? Having seen your character concepts more now, I am less opposed than originally.

My only stipulation would be it may not advance your abilities beyond what a character of equal level would be able to do. So by example, no Wizard 5//Cleric 3/Mystic Theurge 2, getting spells and spell levels as a 7th level wizard and 5th level cleric. Or feats that progress two class features to double up similarly.

Ideas or thoughts?

I agree with what you have proposed. Sounds fair to me.

I am good with that as I wished to play this build:

Domain Wizard 5 / Mage of the Arcane Order 4 // Sorcerer 5 / Ultimate Magus 4

Alright, I have added Ballard Char, our Elan Psion // Rogue and Eriale Zora, our Human Druidess // Sorceress / Loremistress.

Welcome to the game, please feel free to throw your hat in the ring about the discussions happening in the thread, while also working on your character. Please remember if it is outside the PHB, ask before assuming it is allowed. For our Psionic friends Ballad Char and Nin Vinto, it is fair to say that most powers and feats from the EPH will be allowed. Nin, likewise, because you are using the Tome of Battle, most options from the book are available. Jerinvar, we will discuss your character specifically to update to 3.5 standards. In general, most classes, feats, prestige classes, etc... will be allowed from the sources outlined, just run them by me first.

As long as the Ultimate magus doesn't boost caster level above hit dice, I've got no problems with it (in spite of the usual no-theurge rule) since you're stacking it with a full arcane caster.  I'd have qualms if it was Sorc 5/Cleric(or rogue or whatever) 4 // Wizard 5/Ultimate Magus 4, but as it is (except spell power) it's all good.

I'm avoiding Jade Phoenix mage altogether, myself.

Flaws or not two flaws?

http://dndsrd.net/unearthedFlaws.html

Hello all, I am Eriale Zora, your friendly neighbourhood eternal student of all things and human companion to Athena the owl.

No flaws.

BTW... Xulo is pronounced Zoo-Low

Jerinvar has taken the Vow of Poverty (from Book of Exalted Deeds).  With this feat he gains additional exalted feats as he gains levels.  Two such exalted feats are "Vow of Nonviolence" and "Vow of Peace".  I've considered taking them as they are thematic with my 'Healer' focused character (sort of a DnD version of the Hippocratic oath: first, do no harm).

I realize that by taking it, it may have some in game implications for other characters.  I've outlined the specific rules that affect him and his allies (see below).  I'm looking to find out if the group is okay with these rules/restrictions, or if it is preferred that I refrain from taking said feats:

Vow of Peace:

1.  "Jerinvar" must not cause harm to any living creature (constructs and undead are not included in this prohibition).  "Jerinvar" may not deal real damage or ability damage to such creatures through spells or weapons, though "Jerinvar" may deal nonlethal damage.  "Jerinvar" may not target them with death effects, disintegrate, pain effects, or other spells that have the immediate potential to cause death, suffering, or great harm.

2.  "Jerinvar" may not use nondamaging spells to incapacitate or weaken living foes so that "Jerinvar's" allies can kill them - if you incapacitate a foe, you must take him/her prisoner.

Vow of Nonviolence:

1.  "Jerinvar's" purity is so great that any ally of yours who slays a harmless or defenseless foe within 120' of "Jerinvar" feels great remorse (aka: -1 morale penalty on attack rolls for 1 hour/character level for each helpless foe slain.  The attack penalty increases by 1, to a maximum equal to your character level.  The duration of the increased penalty starts from the latest slaying).

2.  "Jerinvar" may ask his allies to give you an oath that a helpless foe will not be slain.  If the oath is sworn, an ally who later breaks the oath takes the penalty for doing so as if you were present.

3.  If "Jerinvar" leaves a helpless foe to be killed by his allies, he has 'broken' his vow.

4.  "Jerinvar" may ask a defeated creature to give him an oath of surrender or noninterference in exchange for its life.  If the creature breaks this oath to you, you can allow your allies to deal with the creature as they see fit without breaking their oaths or your vow of nonviolence.

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So in all of that, Vow of Nonviolence 1 and 2 are the only things that affect other players (and 4 acts as a fail safe)...the rest is on me to adhere to.

I guess the question is...does the group see themselves as being of the type that would indiscriminately slay defenseless/helpless foes?  If yes, they may have a problem with my character taking these feats...if no, then shouldn't be a problem at all.

For the sake of reference:

https://dndtools.org/feats/boo...52/sacred-vow--3191/

https://dndtools.net/feats/boo...ow-of-poverty--3081/

https://dndtools.net/feats/boo...f-nonviolence--3078/

https://dndtools.net/feats/boo.../vow-of-peace--3080/

My only questions would be for Nonviolence #1:

1-is harmless or defenseless defined by Jerinvar or the acting PC?

(Nin's probably rolling in with LG, but if he thinks or knows someone dangerous is just acting harmless/defenseless to take advantage he's not necessarily going to wait to explain that)

2-what about pain in the back corner cases?

(If we've got the troll [or other regenerator] to negatives and it's unconscious and helpless, can we not burn it until it gets up and takes a swing at us?)

3-is there no save against that ability?


I am going to be immune in a few levels regardless, but figure they're worth asking for everyone.

Can a warforged feel remorse?

Yes, a warforged can feel remorse, they have a soul.

In reply to Nin Vinto (msg # 58):

1.  I imagine the GM can define 'harmless/defenseless' as to the terms of the game and not by an individual's perspective based on those words and their use within the mechanics of that feat.

2.  since it doesn't regenerate fire damage, you'd end up killing it which goes against the 'harmless/defenseless' aspect of things...why not restrain it/imprison it/immobilize it in someway while it is unable to defend itself.  Then when it comes to, i make it swear an oath (as indicated) and if it breaks the oath, you can kill it till your hearts content?

3.  no save against what?  which part of what I wrote?  Immune to what?

I've never played one... just learning about them

In reply to Nin Vinto (msg # 58):

do you mean a save for this part:

2.  "Jerinvar" may ask his allies to give you an oath that a helpless foe will not be slain.  If the oath is sworn, an ally who later breaks the oath takes the penalty for doing so as if you were present.

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if so, no...and I can't see it as something one could gain immunity from? immune to morale penalties?

It would depend on the campaign... its kinda hard to take 100's let alone 10 prisoners and travel with them, feed them... This would make being a Mercenary band behind enemy lines pretty impossible to do... You let an enemy live and set it free and it just brings his friends back with him... I don't see the viability of it myself.

so, are we all for indiscriminate killing...if so, that's fine...doesn't seem like something any 'good' aligned character would be in agreement with.

if we are in combat, a being isn't helpless/defenseless unless it:

a) surrenders
b) you do enough damage to drop it 'but not kill it'.

if it dies in battle that's one thing...but its that 0 to -10 range that is the question as to the morality of a group.

in a) it surrenders...swears an oath and we deal with it like we would if we weren't indiscriminate killers without my character having said feats.  If it breaks vow, have at it and kill it.

b) if unconscious.  Subdue/immobilize, bring it to, have it swear oath.

not swearing oath seems like it is still prepared to be combative and the others can do as they want.

some GM insight on the subject might be helpful :)

It doesn't say you can't kill our enemies...just not those that are helpless/defenseless.

It doesn't even say we have to invite them to surrender.

If we're getting prisoners, then we should bind them but if our allies would execute them after they have surrendered to us, we should not deliver them. Eriale doesn't have a problem with that, it's all about whether they're still a threat.

Helpless - SRD
A helpless character is paralyzed, held, bound, sleeping, unconscious, or otherwise completely at an opponent’s mercy. A helpless target is treated as having a Dexterity of 0 (–5 modifier). Melee attacks against a helpless target get a +4 bonus (equivalent to attacking a prone target). Ranged attacks gets no special bonus against helpless targets. Rogues can sneak attack helpless targets.

As a full-round action, an enemy can use a melee weapon to deliver a coup de grace to a helpless foe. An enemy can also use a bow or crossbow, provided he is adjacent to the target. The attacker automatically hits and scores a critical hit. (A rogue also gets her sneak attack damage bonus against a helpless foe when delivering a coup de grace.) If the defender survives, he must make a Fortitude save (DC 10 + damage dealt) or die.

Delivering a coup de grace provokes attacks of opportunity.

Creatures that are immune to critical hits do not take critical damage, nor do they need to make Fortitude saves to avoid being killed by a coup de grace.

So I read this as:

Helpless = in a state where one could use coup de grace against them.

Defenseless = no longer an immediate threat...they have surrendered and are no longer posing a threat.

I am fine with all but Vow of Non-Violence... If we were playing an exalted campaign, sure... But for a +4 to the DC's of your spells and special abilities I don't feel the trade off to then determine how every character in the party deals with a threat is worth it.

Vow of non-violence is a prerequisite for vow of peace...so if it is out, both are out.

I understand the desire to add it for your character but you would essentially make every other characters choice of alignment obsolete and all would bow to the morale of one (maybe more than one if they are so inclined, but hey, that is their choice... others not so inclined lose their choice).

Again, this is not an Exalted campaign... Your Moral standard is not "the" moral standard of the party.

Likely being CG I have no issues with it and considering it looks like we have a LG member of the party they would never allow killing of people who surrender or are helpless anyway.

Are there exceptions for monsters like the example above, burning a downed troll to ensure it doesn't get back up again? Not really helpless? What does the GM think?
This message was last edited by the player at 23:38, Fri 13 May 2022.

Perhaps we should post our characters alignments in this thread, and deity if it would be common group knowledge. You guys don't have to hide your character concepts from each other, you joined together as an  adventuring/merc company, so you be used to each other's capabilities unless they are non-obvious.

If that's the route the party takes so be it but don't expect Xulo to babysit your prisoners.

Games get bogged down enough without having to take care of the needs of an entourage of prisoners through dangerous lands.

Xulo is Lawful Neutral and is Godless.

Is there a general premise for the game?

Chaotic Good, follower of Lurue

So, regarding my character's use of Vow of Nonviolence and Vow of Peace:

    For: Myself, Keryth

Against: Xulo

Nin Vinto and Eriale responded, but I really couldn't tell from their response if they were accepting of it or not? Could the two of you confirm your position?

What say you, Ballard?

Its possible Xulo may be ammenable to it... his backstory is being fleshed out a bit more... His patron deities are Mystra, Gond and Ogmha. Alignment is still Lawful Neutral but his outlook may be taking a different direction... still working on it.

Save against taking the penalty for killing certain things when you're within 120 feet.

Immune to all mind affecting includes morale, I believe.

There is no save...but immunity is immunity.

CG and True Believer (feat) Corellon Larethian (Moon Elf)

I am I'm acceptance of your vows Jerinvar.

My patron deity is Oghma for I am a believer in knowledge. CN educated (feat) and as such tend to see the others point of view. I do not object to killing but somehow, the killing of the helpless... well, let's just say I empathise with Jerinvar's position.

In reply to Jerinvar (msg # 78):

Ballard is pretty much amenable to many different attitudes.
 even singing mummies
  la la la lalala.
This message was last edited by the player at 07:55, Sat 14 May 2022.

Can I get a character sheet for Xulo's familiar: Vox with the tag: familiar

I plan to cut and paste one from another game for Athena.

Nin hasn't talked about his childhood much, but the party would know it was spent in the underdark.  They would also know that he has a huge hate on for Illithids, and seems to think he's very good at killing them.  The math is probably not too hard there, but it's not been talked about explicitly.  He spent pretty much his entire life above ground as a professional soldier (ie. Mercenary) and student of the blade in Sembia.

His build has shifted to warblade/swordsage/master of nine | psion/illiquid slayer.

Not 100% on deity yet.  It will be someone he thinks would favor his grudge against the Illithids, though.

Majority are for the vows, so I'm happy to go along with it.  Nin will not give you a general oath, but he's also not a murderer - just pragmatic on the battlefield.  He will give you oaths for individual cases.

Eriale grew up in Chessenta.  She went to a private school for the sons and daughters of the wealthy magical elite. She's not interested in wealth but regards knowledge as dragons regard rubies.

Rather than follow in her father's footsteps, she decided to become a druid so she could make both Divine and arcane magic. That's when her parents disowned her but it's when she found Athena.

Over time, she has passed through, Sembia, the Dales,  Waterdeep and now the Silver Marches.

I think that offering your enemies to surrender before/during a battle and not deliberately coup de grace ing unconscious/defenseless creatures, or perhaps shooting them in the back when they are trying to disengage from combat, would pretty much cover the requirements. If they refuse, they refuse, and are fair game. Undead (un-intelligent) and Constructs obviously do not apply.

That would pretty much sum up the requirements for the group, I believe.

Also, we are 9th level (and thus have access to 5th level casting)...I would hope we have someone in our group who has the ability to use the Teleport spell (looking at you Ultimate Magus//Mage or the Arcane Order).

If we do get someone who has surrendered or we've taken prisoner.  Teleport them away to the nearby prison and teleport back.  At worst we are delayed a day to give you a chance to prepare the spell (twice..once to take them away and once to get back)...and you can take up to 3 prisoners with you if need be.  If going to a place you are very familiar with, within 900 miles, you have a 97% chance of going exactly where you plan to go.

Just a thought, as carting prisoners around was expressed as a concern.
This message was last edited by the player at 19:54, Sat 14 May 2022.

and if they surrender and offer an oath that they will not resist...then break that oath...have at em as well.

It does stink that the party takes the penalties for your feat to work, but gain no benefit from it.  It's like handing out a flaw to everyone else to get a bonus feat for each flaw you pass out.

It is entirely possible that Nin will kill something you disable, just fyi.  While I'm fine with you taking whatever feats you want, I'm going to be up front that if he feels something needs to die, he will kill it.  He would also be up front about that.  He is good but definitely not exalted good.

I'm effectively a ninth level sorceress (cause I get 2 levels as Loremistress as well) but sadly, that only gets me fourth level spells.

Keryth grew up in the High Forest. His village was almost wiped out by a Necromancer and his Undead troops, the survivors were rescued by a wood elf tribe and he grew up there. They taught him woodland lore and archery. He has since travelled extensively including stints in the Cormyr and Silvermoon military as a scout and archer as well as a member of an adventuring band exploring old dungeons and ruins.

He has a mountain leopard companion named Shadow as she is never far from Keryths side. He found and raised her from a kitten.

A slight amendment to Eriale's history.  She has in fact never visited Waterdeep.  She spent most of her life in Chessenta or in various wild environments.  She only learned to speak Common about a year ago.

Xulo awoke in the craft shop of Ardan Vahl, an Artificer attached to the magical colleges of Silverymoon. 'He' was discovered in an ancient Netherese ruin with several other artifacts and brought back for study.

After a few years of study, Ardan, through restorative magics, eventually brought Xulo back to a functional state once more.

Xulo has no memories of before 'his' awakening, however Ardan was intrigued by 'his' sentience and ability to learn, taught 'him' things that 'he' readily absorbed and imparting moral and ethical concepts in 'his' daily lessons.

Ardan sent Xulo to learn at the Lady's College as 'his arcane aptitude grew. Although a construct, he obviously saw some spark of life within 'him', and treated Xulo as one would treat their child.

I am sorry, what is Xulo's preferred pronouns? Your character sheet says that Xulo identifies as male, but I could be mistaken.

He has no gender but Identifies as male, using male pronouns.

Okay, just double checking. I did not want to misgender someone, especially as I know Warforged can identify as either gender or not at all.

Arcane Spell Casters... what type of Caster are you mainly?

Xulo is mainly a Battlefield Control Caster.

Mostly a diviner I'm afraid although I do have some quite lethal combinations of spells such as Web (arcane) and produce flame (divine)

I'm entirely a divine caster...but as far as role in battle goes...primarily healer feom the retooled healer class provided by the GM...but can select cleric spells each day to meet a variety of needs

Will anyone have the ability to cast some form of telepathic bond?  just wondering if I should have it in my repertoire or not.

<<Looks pointedly at the Telepath>>

:-P

Well yes, probably, why?  I have a helm of comprehend languages as well, if we're thinking about whether we can talk to people?

My character has at will tongues...so communication with others is good...I think he was looking at communicating telepathically to each other over a distance?

Ballard does have Corraspond which potentially could have been used preveously to communicate with other pcs and npcs if players so chose "DM permitting"

Now the power is funny as it take 10 minutes to activate and only lasts rounds but it can cross dimensional barriers.

odd power really
This message was last edited by the player at 05:15, Mon 16 May 2022.

I'll take Telepathic Bond then...  its a Standard action to cast and lasts 10 min/level.

In what capacity has the group been together for the past 2 years?

Territorial Exploration?

Adventuring Company?

Mercenary Company? Tathtard's Rose? The Moonlight Men?

Diplomatic Ambassador's?

An Elite unit of The Army of the North, the Knights in Silver, the Spellguard, the Silverwatch or the Moon Guard?

Artifact Hunters commissioned by the Ladies College?
This message was last edited by the player at 10:55, Mon 16 May 2022.

Well I came to Silverymoon looking for the Vault of Sages at Ladies College, but then they told me about the library at Herald's Holdfast and now, yes, I guess I work for Ladies College now.

In reply to Xulo (msg # 111):

Char is a bit of a goffer or trader, he may not be too good at it as he has the charm of a wet mop.. but still, players may have seen him get some pretty decent deals from a merchant or two during the groups time together and sometimes it is so very odd how such a weedy fellow seems to  be able to stand up in a straight out no hold bar fight now and again.
This message was last edited by the player at 11:49, Mon 16 May 2022.

Xulo has been a student at the Ladies College for many years...  There is no reason he can't be affiliated with the college but work as part of another organization.

But... Ladies College does teaching... and it comes out of our wages?  What's not to love?

Eriale... I believe you are a Sorceress... you would want to be affiliated with Arkhen's Invocatorium... A school of Sorcery.  Xulo would be a student there just as much as the Ladies College, the school of Wizardry.
This message was last edited by the player at 12:24, Mon 16 May 2022.

I was born a sorceress certainly, but now I'm a Loremistress (and a Druid) and Ladies College has an awesome library.

I am thinking of having Xulo's buld change to:

Wizard 5 / Incantrix 2 / Spellguard of Silverymoon 2 // Sorcerer 5 / Ultimate Magus 4

All he would loose is Spellpool which granted can allow him to pop out any one spell, even ones he doesn't have in his spell book, up to 4 levels worth of spells a day and needs to leave empty slots in order to use it, a bonus language (not a big loss), and a Metamagic Feat.

He would gain 2 metamagic feats, Would be able to cast many forbidden spells within Silverymoons Wards, Be able to fuel other casters spells with his metamagics, and give him at will use of the following spells: air walk, bless weapon, bull's strength, cat's grace, control water, discern lies, dispel chaos, dispel evil, feather fall, lesser ironguard*, quench, remove curse, remove paralysis, shield, shocking grasp, silence, and tongues by command word, exactly as if it were an ability of a magic item in his possession,
lose a school of magic (probably Necromancy), be Obligated to protect Silverymoon (roaming the North seeking out danger to Silverymoon and removing the threats...


could be a reason for this group, an elite squad of the Knights in Silver who venture the North West of Faerun to seek out and remove threats to Silverymoon.
This message was last edited by the player at 16:37, Mon 16 May 2022.

Does that work from your perspective Storyteller?

The group being an elite squad of the Knights in Silver who are sent on missions to protect Silverymoon or when no mission is set to scout the region for danger.

Is that an agreeable premise for the game for the other players?

I believe Eriale is less than useful as a soldier but happy to tag along with such a group as a civilian liaison of some kind.

Is this statement based on a Chaotic alignment and not being one to follow orders? Would a mercenary company be more fitting for Eriale?

I believe a mercenary company would be far preferable for Eriale on alignment grounds even though on other grounds she would rather be aligned with a college.  That said, if she were in a mercenary company she would simply save most of the pay she earned so that she can in future use it to acquire knowledge.

Storyteller, I know that many DMs don't approve of characters buying handy haversacks.  How do you feel about it?  In other words, is it okay to buy one?

I have yet to meet a gm yet who would bat an eye at characters using haversacks and I have been playing here on RPOL for 20+ years.

Perhaps we are a Mercenary Band working in conjunction with the Knights in Silver.

Sounds fair to me.  As for GMs objecting to Handy Haversacks, I've come across three and I've only been on RPOL since 2005.

Wait...  I think I joined in 2005 as well... so 17 years... feels a lot longer

It does indeed.

Some background about my character from its Ghaele perspective:



So, however you see Jerinvar fitting un under the above pretense works fine with me.

He'd want to be in an advisory role to whoever takes lead.  He has the Charisma and Diplomacy to be the leader but doesn't want to make decisions on behave of mortals.

Sounds like you are playing an Istari

Possibly...though a direct quote from the Monster manual

My sheet is pretty much done... just waiting for GM approval on Incantrix and spellguard of Silvery moon and on some purchases. Once I have confirmations of the above I will make the few adjustments and will be ready to rock and roll.

I like the mercenary company and if some of our members are "secretly" connected to other groups so we can get jobs from them and they can have deniable assets to hire, so much the better.

Nin's going to be living on the border of Lawful Good and Lawful Neutral (note: not lawful stupid).  He's got a little bit of knowledge about everything, can have a decent diplomacy (maxed ranks and a few bonuses but no charisma bonus - neighborhood of +18), and maxed profession (soldier).

I'm happy with him being party leader if there's no other player that has a strong desire for it.  He originally left the Sembian mercenary group he has been in for most of his life in order to found (or join) his own group in hopes of developing an elite group strong enough to one day exterminate an Illithid hive.  He knows this is no small ask, so he'll be going out of his way for each and all of the group whenever they need/want something as well.  (As a player I know this may be way outside the scope of the game, but it's his motivation for being here and investing so heavily in the group.)

My sheet is needing work still - sooooo many options.  I've locked down my Psionic powers (pending approval), and most of the skills but am working out some feats and all maneuvers.
This message was last edited by the player at 21:31, Mon 16 May 2022.

Xulo is not a leader, so will be joining Jerinvar in not putting his hat in for consideration.

So far Nin Vinto is our only contender for group leader.  Does anyne else see their character as having the skills/desire to lead?
This message was last edited by the player at 21:34, Mon 16 May 2022.

Sorry, DM took a day of work and helping wife with her finals now that his are done *glares at professors, still waiting on those grades*. Over the next 24 hours or so I will be reviewing PM's, character sheets, etc..., and getting back to you to answer questions.

I like the idea of a mercenary/adventuring group that has ties to Silvermoon. Keryth has served as a scout with the Knights of Silver previously and would be happy to base our operations from the city.

I think it gives us some more freedom to do things we want to do and we can also take missions for them when asked.

Keryth is definitely not a leader, so more than happy for someone else to have that role.

Eriale would consider trying to be leader but while she has the charisma, she doesn't have the skills for it and so will not be applying for the role.

In other news, I think my sheet is ready.

Jerinvar is quite intelligent and wise, and very charismatic (with Diplomacy +21).

If no real leader candidate exists, I could see Jerinvar taking the roll,but it would be a leadership style that relies heavily on group consensus...basically a democratic leadership style (though making the tough decisions when time to consult the group isn't available.



But if someone wants it, I'm good with that.
This message was last edited by the player at 12:30, Tue 17 May 2022.

Handy Haversack is fine.

Judging by the group makeup, I am envisioning your group as a sort of unofficial special ops group for Marches. Some members who are former military/guard types, a couple of free thinkers, and enough plausible deniability to round it out nicely.

Oh yes.  We like plausible deniability, or I do anyway.

I am 95% done... just a few spells needing GM approval, 1 Build minor issue needs resolved and have about 1,500gp left to spend.

Eriale

When choosing spells, keep in mind that Xulo has the Extend, Persist and Twin Metamagic Feats and as an Incantatrix can add them to your spells as you cast them with no increase to your spells level.

Ahh... I have Silent and Repeat.  Perhaps I should change Repeat to Still

But wait... does our GM allow metamagic feats to apply to both arcane and divine magic?

So the Spellplague was from 1385 DR – 1395 DR

And the War of the Silver Marches was from 1484 DR – 1485 DR

How far before the Spellplague are you thinking?


Alustriel became the first High Mage of Silverymoon unanimously chosen by the people, and ruled long and well until 1369 DR.  She stepped down, appointed Taern Homblade as High Mage, and set about creating a new realm in the Sword Coast North with Silverymoon at its heart.

Alustriel Silverhand assumes the title of "High Lady of the Silver Marches" and forms the League of the Silver Marches, officially turning the confederacy of Luruar into a new country in 1371 DR
This message was last edited by the player at 22:42, Tue 17 May 2022.

Plausible deniability (and trust) make the world go round.  Party leader may comment on something needing done in the morning.  If the rogue has circles under their eyes and says it's been taken care of, then it's been taken care of.

I've decided to drop VOPoverty, VONV, and VOPeace...I liked the idea, but doesn't seem compatable with this game...and I've come to that not just from PMs with Nin Vinto, but with at least one other character/player as well.  Will be working on the changes over the next couple of days.
This message was last edited by the player at 22:55, Tue 17 May 2022.

Aw shame. I thought it made for a unique story.

"But wait... does our GM allow metamagic feats to apply to both arcane and divine magic? Yes, if you have the feat, you can use it as long as it applies.

Year is about 1373, and no guarantee that it will follow the events that unfolded to the later editions.

Alright, Xulo is 98% ready, just 1,500gp 500gp left to allocate.

I am really happy with how he turned out... looking forward to field testing him!
This message was last edited by the player at 13:43, Wed 18 May 2022.

Alright.  My feats have been approved.

Now Jerinvar is a force to be "feared" (fear aura).  Will work on purchases tomorrow and a few odds and ends.

Slight Build change:

Incantatrix 3 / Spellguard 1 instead of Incantatrix 2 / Spellguard 2

Allows Xulo to add Metamagics to his Allies spells after they have been cast (As well as as they are casting)

Also switched Twin Spell metamagic for Empower Spell metamagic as Twin would not work on spells already cast.

Looking at a 20th level Build progression of:

Domain Wizard 5 / Incantatrix 10 / Spellguard 5 // Sorcerer 5 / Ultimate Magus 10 / Archmage 5
This message was last edited by the player at 15:24, Wed 18 May 2022.

Xulo will have Extend and Empower and has dropped Persist and Twin Metamagic Feats

also snagged Eschew Materials because who really wants to be fiddling with spell components or be spell-less because your spell component back got taken or stolen.

Eriale... I would swap Repeat for something else until higher spell levels are available... Who really needs to repeat a 1st level spell when you have more 1st level than anything else.

Silent and Still metamagics are highly situational but when those situations occur they are highly valuable.

The two I was thinking of repeating were Cure Light Wounds and True Strike but yes, I just needed another metamagic feat or crafting item feat so I could become a Loremistress.  At the time, I might have picked silent and still but now I've taken Natural Spell at 9th level, the main circumstance I thought of is less relevant.

Hmm... Heighten spell would be interesting with produce flame?  Nope, that's caster level.  I have Brew Potion but suppose I add craft wondrous item?  That would give me something interesting to do during downtime.

I have posted my character sheet for all to see on my description since we have all been together as a group for 2 years.  All would know Xulo's abilities and what spells he can cast.

An free account at Myth-Weaver is needed to access the sheet.

In reply to Eriale Zora (msg # 154):

You would know that Jerinvar can use cure light wounds as a spell-like ability at will.

:)

Okay... craft wondrous items it is then... and I guess I don't need cure light wounds.  Do I still need Cure Medium wounds, neutralise poison and remove disease?

In reply to Eriale Zora (msg # 157):

As a healer (and also having cleric casting), Jerinvar has all of those covered...but it doesn't hurt to have a secondary healer...in case Jerinvar's the one in need of healing.

Xulo can heal himself for the most part with Repair Damage spells at 0, 1, 2, 3, and 4th levels.  Heal spells heal for half on a Warforged.

In reply to Jerinvar (msg # 158):

Okay, I'll keep the higher ones but I'll swap out CLW unless I need to prepare it in place of one of my usual spells in in an emergency.

Alright... all my money is spent... just a custom Masterworks Tool and one last build issue being looked at by GM and Xulo is done...

Anyone else done? Close? Need help/advice?

Changing mine slightly
from Druid 9/Sorceress 7/Loremistress 2
to Druid 5/Arcane Hierophant 4/Sorceress 7/Loremistress 2

And ready I think.

Sweet way to use your animal companion(s) to deliver spells.

Just put in permission request for my non-phb feats, maneuvers, and powers.  I stuck to the book for each of my base classes so I'm not hoping everything's okay.

Then I've got a little bit of money to figure out (have armor, weapons, boots, stat items planned and 9000 to spend).

In reply to Xulo (msg # 164):

I have one animal Companion Familiar.  The main difference is, she's as intelligent as I am and she speaks to birds and to me and yes, she can deliver my spells.

Xulo is officially 100% complete.

All I have remaining is purchases and a Ghaele spell list for his cleric spells.

I will be leaving today to go camping for the weekend.  I will be back Monday morning and completing those two things will be my priority as I don't work (I'm off on Tuesday as well).
This message was last edited by the player at 22:54, Sun 22 May 2022.

Just realized I forgot basic adventuring gear.  Are we doing full-bookkeeping mode, or can I mark out 300 gp and 100 lbs of carrying capacity and just say that unless something story-side I've got all the basic adventuring gear?

Unless it is super specific, assume you have your essentials for adventuring gear, unless of course you don't carry anything like that.

Do we have any idea how long it will be until we start?

Going over character sheets, hopefully in the next day or so we can begin.

Most of your character sheets are looking good. I may have messaged you about missing portions or what need to be updated, but we are pretty much good to go.

On another note, I removed Ballad Char from the game due to inactivity and lack of communication. I feel like we can proceed with the five of you, and we can start sooner.

So we are without a Rogue... will we still be seeking a player to fill that roll who can join the group after the campaign begins or do you feel the current party can handle the needs of a rogue amongst them?

I think we probably do need a rogue at some point, even if we have to hire one until one joins.

stupid question...magic item purchases...DMG (and possibly DMG 2) are not in the list of Books allowed?

It does say core books (which I assume to by PHB, DMG, and MMI), but it is then followed by a :, and then the PHB is specifically listed...so don't want to make assumptions.
This message was last edited by the player at 17:59, Tue 24 May 2022.

Magical Items from DMG are fine. No to DMG 2 (not a book I own).

For the current adventure planned, it will not be crucial for you to have a rogue. If you are interested in hiring one, you may, but Character Creation has taken a little longer than is healthy for most games. Then again, generally it takes a little while for the players to set out for an adventure, up to you guys.

Jerinvar is ready to start.  I have a few things to do, but nothing that would prevent the game from starting.

Eriale is ready to start unless the group think she should change all her sorceress levels to bard (joking).

I'd say let's get started.  I am pretty disappointed as a chunk of my build was designed to set up the rogue for awesomeness but I do not want to delay and put us at risk of further attrition.

Maybe offer a spot if there were any rogue applications left, or put up an add for a rogue while we get started and have them catch up IC when they're in and ready.

Sadly, if the skill monkey roll hadn't been claimed by post 9 of the OOC, I likely would have gone that route lol

Fortunately I'm pretty happy with Jerinvar at this point.

My character covers most of Rogue requirements like Trap Finding and disable device along with hide and move Silently. Only thing really missing is open locks. Hoping our Arcane members can assist here with knock etc

Xulo has knock in his spell book.

Eriale can decipher scripts

I would still prefer a dedicated Rogue eventually...

Of those who applied there was:

Elven Sorcerer 8 / Master Transmogrifist 1 // Rogue 9

Human Rogue 9 / Warrior 5, Master Thrower 4

So would depend if we are in need of a secondary combatant or secondary arcane caster

Not sure what all we have:

Xulo = Primary Arcane Caster

Jerinvar = Primary Divine Caster (healer)

Xulo = Wizard // Sorcerer (Primary Arcane Caster) - Metamagic Specialist
Jerinvar = Ghaele // Healer (Primary Divine Caster) - Outsider Heal Master
Eriale Zora = Druid // Sorcerer (Wild Card) - Loremistress and Animal Companion Specialist
Nin Vinto = Warblade // Psion (Tankish) - Tank Illithid Slayer
Keryth Silverbow = Ranger/Fighter // Scout (Skill Monkey) - Beastmaster Ranged Specialist

If people shared their character sheets in there description like I did we would all have a better idea what everyone can do... not sure why that needs to be kept secret... we have all worked together for 2 years and should be very familiar with each others abilities... I would suggest a thread for all character sheets if its too hard to put in your description.

If Keryth can fullfil the roll of a rogue to a degree where not having a dedicated Rogue doesn't gimp us then we might not need another character... he doesn't have UMD but fortunately xulo does with a +15

Barring further updates of characters, I will begin the game tomorrow.

I'm unlikely to be able to respond until Sunday but all the same Hoorah!!!! <3

Unless you have a ward token you are limited in your ability to cast magic within Silverymoon and up to 1,000 feet (300 meters) beyond the city wall.

Prohibition from casting evocation spells that created fire.

Prohibition from casting teleportation magic.

Prohibition from summoning things.

The wards prevent any such magic to work without possessing a token.

Xulo has one as a benefit of being a member of the Spellguard.
This message was last edited by the player at 14:59, Sun 29 May 2022.

I will be posting tonight to update for all of your questions.

Concert tonight, so I will be unavailable until tomorrow. Feel free to post.

Does anyone have a haversack or bag of holding?  If we put the dragon scale into an extrapanar container then that would make scrying impossible.
This message was last edited by the player at 18:43, Sun 12 June 2022.

It just so happens I do have a handy haversack handy.

I have one as well :)

For the journey there do we have any magical means or are we on horseback?

I dare say one or two of you have the use of teleport.

I know teleporting gets us there faster but without horses if we need to explore the area or journey on further it could be challenging.

Im open to either option though. Just throwing some thoughts out there :)

There maybe someone in the Spellguard who knows that area and could potentially teleport you there, but you would have to ask around. Some religions also have portals for members, that perhaps you could convince them that you should be allowed to use them.

So, Gather Information, Diplomacy, Knowledge Arcana, Knowledge Religion, Knowledge Local, and Knowledge Nature checks would be advisable if you are done with the room and ready to find someone to help.

Will update within the next day, sorry that work and Father's Day has taken up more of my time than usual.

PM's for those checks.

I will update either tonight or tomorrow. Family event.

After work tonight.

Sorry for lack of post.  Work had been busy this week...and today is Canada Day so will be away visiting family.  Post to come tomorrow.

So, we have had Xulo step away from the game. Nin Vinto hasn't logged in or posted in over two weeks. Eriale has been a while since she interacted.

This leaves Jerinvar and Keryth, as the most recent posters. How would you like to proceed? I can adapt the adventure for the two, possibly three of you, opening up for others to join to fill in the missing spot, or however you would like to continue.

I'm still here but I can't think of anything for Eriale to do right now other than follow the consensus.  If that didn't work, she planned to try the high druid.

What about advertising for replacement players to take over the existing characters.  If they want to make their own characters, they could do so, but play the existing character they took over until their new one us done?

Then there is three, as I suspected. Sorry Eriale, the high priestess was interacting with you, so let us assume perhaps that you finish the interactions, and gather your companions and supplies and return in time?

Sounds good to me.

Im happy to proceed with three for now if thats easiest? Meanwhile as we continue if the GM wants we can advertise for a replacement.

Thoughts?

Sorry about the delay all, things went downhill for my mother this weekend, hopefully updating tonight.

RL before GL...no rush. Take care of you and family first.

MR before VR.  Do what you need to do boss.

All good, we will be here. Definitely family first.

Hope your Mum improves.

I would like to welcome Aerin, our newest player, a Golden Dragon Knight (Half-Dragon Fighter//Sorcerer).

There is also another player in the works to take over Nin's slot.

Hello everyone, I'll be the new resident tank for you. Looking forward to getting to know you all. As the group is said to know each other, here is some info on her: Originally from Rashemen, Aerin worked as a mercenary until a paladin, named Mennoth, recognized the draconic heritage in her. He helped awakening her blood, starting her transformation into a half dragon. Later she joined a group of adventurers, and together they foiled the Hamayarch's plot to overthrow the young Thultyrl, who awarded them the title of 'Heroes of Procampur'. Later she had some clashes with followers of the Cult of the Dragon and a black dragon calling himself 'Velvet', before she left Raven's Bluff and moved on.

Aerin is a proud person, yet she isn't above doing menial tasks, however, anyone questioning her honor or threatening her friends will find themselves quickly at the pointy end of her greatsword...

Well.  I've probably said this before but to save you having to go through previous posts.

Welcome, Aerin.

Eriale is from Chessenta and she has the looks of most Chessentans (dark hair, olive skin, dark eyes).  They tried to train her as a mage but she wanted to know EVERYTHING, not just magic.  Then her sorcery kicked in so she left home, trained as a druid while she also learned to control her sorcery.  A chance came her way and now, while she works as druid and sorceress, it is curiosity that defines her.  She realises that EVERYTHING is much bigger than she thought and yet she STILL aches for knowledge.

Thank you very much for the welcome :)

Welcome to the team :)

Keryth is our skill monkey scout and Ranged specialist.

Pleased to meetcha, Keryth. :)

Do we have a trapspringer in our midst, or is Aerin going to be finding traps the hard way?

Thats me. I have Trap Finding and Disable Device.

Unfortunately I cant Open Locks but we have magic for that hopefully :)

Oh cool, Aerin has a door opener in the form of a big boot ;)

Lastly, I have added Artour Naler, Runic Shaper, Illumian Cleric/Runecaster // Ranger/Master of Many Forms.

So, this should make up for the usual attrition on RPOL, and hopefully by the end of the week I can update the primary game and get it back on track.

Hi Folks,
   Good to be able to join you when my first character wasn't selected :) I've tried to fill in gaps in the party roles, so he's a full divine caster (follower of Gwaeron Windstorm) and being able to wild shape into a variety of shapes gives some flexibility.
   Artour grew up on one of the many wagon trains that are the life-blood of civilisation and so has travelled widely, but his real career began when a druid rescued them from some attacking goblins and Artour was intrigued. Alas, he wasn't cut out to be a druid, but he does worship a nature god and has discovered how to change his shape.

Welcome Artour Naler, seems we shared the same fate in the first character not being selected. Looking forward to gaming with you :)

  Patience is a virtue, or so they say :)

Ooh, I can wildshape.  There are so many ways we could play that together.

Will update soon, different work schedule this week.

Jerinvar, I think you are the last that needs to post.

So sorry for the lack of post...work has been brutal this past week.  I'm the supervisor for a program that takes care of a woman with some significant mental health issues...the police have been involved multiple times, a couple trips to the hospital...some staff quit so have been working to replace them on the schedule...and all the paperwork surrounding all of that.  I'm off for the weekend (currently 26 hours into a 48 hour double shift) and will get a post off.

Quite the demanding job you have, Jerinvar, between all the hassle try to get some rest for yourself. :)

Um... ok, just wondering: The room is big enough for half-a-dozen horses?

It should be, especially if they are spread out behind you/around the room.

And no problem Jerinvar, I understand. When things go to hell, they bring everyone along in a handbasket...maybe that should be an adventure in the future...

Ok, understood. Just never took a horse into a temple since the priests frown upon the stuff these animals leave behind.

  Has anybody actually got a horse?

I sort of assumed we all would have one for the mission.

Eriale posted she was taking her horse to the teleportation chamber and I have to admit that there was none on the sheet the GM approved. Although the original version of this character came with horse and lance. I did ask for permission to loose a few items to pay for a mount.

I bought a mount from the getgo. Also, Athena is a large owl. Her leavings are more offensive than those of horses.

Athena is a Small sized Owl as a minor correction, which is larger than most.

This image is an idea of how big Athena is compared to a human.

Well yes but by owl standards that African Eagle Owl is on the large size.

As a Gaele, Jerinvar's walk speed is 50', so he can run as fast as a heavy horse (slightly slower than a light horse at speed 60')...though, in alternate form, can fly at 150' (perfect) so figured a horse for him would be out of place.

  I don't think a horse would be typical for Artour, either. He can wild shape four times per day, which should hopefully be enough for transport and encounters.

Fair enough. I was just going by Rules, not necessarily description.

Sorry for the brief post.  I ended up getting mandated to stay at work today, after already having worked a 24 hour shift.  Had hoped to have time to post today, but that isn't going to be the case, so decided to put something up in hopes of not holding the party up any longer.

It's all good, real life comes first. :)

Eriale can wildshape three times a day including becoming large animals such as horses but she's also not unskilled as a rider and besides, she bought the horse quite some time ago.

Funny thing is...I'm the supervisor...I had to mandate myself to stay today because I had no other staff willing or able to come in *facepalm*

Leading by example then, Jerinvar, that's commendable. :)

Being a supervisor myself, I get it. I feel bad for my store lead.

Expect an update tonight.

My movement speed is 40 so prob not fast enough for the group.

Hope its ok but I have updated my character sheet with a light warhorse and saddle and deducted the costs.

 Or can the arcane casters provide magical mounts?

Sorry, no. Aerin only has a few spells and casting 'Mount' from a wand will only last 2 hours or be quite expensive.

Would Jerinvar know to expect her collapse or is that something out of the ordinary...I'm guessing he's travelled similarly in the past?

Sorry all.

Guess whose going to have to mandate themselves to work again tomorrow.

80+ hours over 4 days!

That's right...this guy!!

lol + sigh

Sorry to hear that, hope things will calm down for you soon.

Someone has agrees to come in and relieve me at 330 this afternoon. So only 56 hours in 4 days...not nearly as bad :)

Wow. Thats huge. I hope you get some downtime after that effort!!

Rest well, rest well.

bump :)

Sorry about that, it got lost in the posts.

Channeling one's god can be difficult for the mortal form, but generally, good deities do not inflict harm upon their servants when they do so. If you so wish, you should be able to move her out of the teleportation effect before it goes into effect.

After a crazy weekend of work+hard drive failure, computer is back up. Will update asap.

And so the first week of college begins...again. Will update ASAP.

Hope it will be a relaxed beginning :D

Glutton for punishment. Senior year, University Honors courses, an Undergraduate thesis, 5 classes... ugh...oh and applications for Master's programs this fall. Sometimes, I wonder if being in my middle years that this is too much...then I get back to reading!

Anyways,

How long are you resting? Anything less than four hours will not be helpful at this point. Are you setting up a watch? Jerinvar is obviously going to be keeping watch during this time.

I think since its just getting to dawn we rest for 6 hours till midday, eat and then travel for another 6 hours before finding a camp site for a good proper nights rest.

How are we approx from the village?

  I see Nin Vinto hasn't logged in for a while, so I guess it's four watches with Aerin on 3rd?

The GM mentioned Aerin being the replacement for Nin, so yes, that seems to confirm your assumption.

  Cool.

Since it has been over a month with no updates or posts from Nin, I have removed him from the game.

I expected a little turnover after a few months, but I generally (not always) give someone a chance to reactivate their interest in games I run. It was a kindness done once for me in a game I loved, so I try to do the same.

To answer a previous question, that is a good question. Who was doing the survival checks and either the knowledge (geography) or profession (cartographer) checks once you emerged from the moon circle? Are you sure you are even going the right way? Half a day's ride is possibly a long way away from your destination.

   Artour's got a Survival modifier of +24 in natural outdoor areas, so no problem there, but no ranks in Knowledge(goegraphy) or (local), although he has a 2nd-level spell (Lore of the Gods) that will give +10 to Knowledge checks, but it only lasts for 1 minute/level if used with Knowledge skills you have no ranks in, and would give a total modifier of +15.

We have a ranger or druid, don't we? The spell 'Lay of the Land' provides a geographic overview of the land in a 50mile radius, including settlements and so on. That should be a great basis for any decisions that need to be made.

Im a Ranger but first time I have heard of it but I have looked it up and like it. :) Will definitely add to my list to prepare at the next rest.

I do have Survival and Knowledge (Geography) enough that if I take 10 we should be ok to navigate.

Then when we rest tonight I will prepare that spell.

  Alas, Lay of the Land is not in the list of allowed sources :(

It cannot hurt to ask, can it? :)

Just a heads-up, will be traveling this weekend and most likely unable to post.

I'm still present, just waiting for Aerin's turn.

Should we be posting our actions or waiting till the surprise round is finished? Just want to make sure before I put up my turn. :)

Just mentioning it here...Jerinvar is not currently in orb form.

Sorry about that, I thought what was going on was clear.

New round, Jerinvar and Keryth should, if possible, post first, you all may post if you feel like other actions will not interfere with your own.

Sorry for lack of post.  Worked 48 hours over Wednesday and Thursday...and spent the day preparing for a hurricane (Fiona) that is to hit my province over the next 24+ hours.  Not sure when I'll get a post up...will depend on how much damage the hurricane causes to the local power grid.

Jerinvar intends to use his gaze attack on it.

Gaze (Ex): 35', 1 HD
Evil creatures of the indicated HD (1) or less must succeed on a Will save (DC 22 = 10 + 1/2 Ghaele HD + CHA mod + 4) or die instantly
Those that succeed are affected as by a fear spell for 2d10 rounds.
Nonevil creatures of the indicated HD (1) or less and evil creatures with more than the indicated HD must succeed on a Will save
or suffer the fear effect.

If it is evil and has more than 1 HD, it must make a DC 22 will save or suffer the affects of the fear spell...which would stack with its current shaken state with the extended duration of 10 minutes.

So, on failed save, panicked for 10 minutes.  On a successful save, frightened for 10 minutes.

Also save DC is 24 vs 22, given its current shaken condition.

Sorry to hear about the incoming hurricane, will keep my fingers crossed you get through it safely with minimal inconveniences.

Sorry again for the lack of a post.  My intended actions are posted if you want to move the group along.

The hurricane hit my area pretty hard...mostly large trees uprooted and fallen over and the damage caused by those fallen trees.

I've spent the last few days aiding other in removing fallen trees from their property.  Am heading to work in the morning for 48 hours...so Friday will be the earliest I'll be able to post.
This message was last edited by the player at 01:52, Wed 28 Sept 2022.

Sooo, it's been a week, are we going to continue?

I hope so but the GM doesn't look like they have been online since the 23rd September. Cross fingers we continue.

Let's hope it is nothing serious.