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OOC Thread.

Posted by Dungeon MasterFor group 0
Dungeon Master
GM, 922 posts
Wed 28 Feb 2024
at 03:07
  • msg #916

Re: OOC Thread

Lmao well even if that was the case it is significantly easier here.
Morbid Woundcleanser
player, 223 posts
AC 0 HP 42/42
Human Cleric
Wed 28 Feb 2024
at 15:25
  • msg #917

Re: OOC Thread

im uninjured Delwin
Griff
player, 354 posts
Fighter. 42/42HP
1/2 Elf AKA Radon
Fri 1 Mar 2024
at 02:56
  • msg #918

Re: OOC Thread

Happy, Happy, Joy, Joy - 1st of the month.+1,000xp.
Morbid Woundcleanser
player, 228 posts
AC 0 HP 42/42
Human Cleric
Fri 1 Mar 2024
at 03:04
  • msg #919

Re: OOC Thread

I think you'll find that's Happy, Happy, Morbid, Morbid....
Vanomir
player, 97 posts
high elf
F/MU
Wed 6 Mar 2024
at 11:17
  • msg #920

Re: OOC Thread

It's been a busy old year, I'll get back into posting regularly from today on.
Hammond
player, 148 posts
You can call me
Vincent
Wed 6 Mar 2024
at 21:18
  • msg #921

Re: OOC Thread

a low, guttural rumble that seemed to emanate from the depths of the cave.   Then, a foul stench wafted through the air—a nauseating odor that could only mean one thing: troglodytes. Vanomir has returned to the party.

lol. JK. I'm sure he smells like daisies or something equally elflike.

Welcome back.
This message was last edited by the player at 02:33, Thu 07 Mar.
Dungeon Master
GM, 941 posts
Thu 7 Mar 2024
at 20:13
  • msg #922

Re: OOC Thread

Don't forget loot XP for those who just received magical items.  I give them out sparingly so make sure you get your XP from them.
Vanomir
player, 98 posts
high elf
F/MU
Thu 7 Mar 2024
at 21:43
  • msg #923

Re: OOC Thread

LOL, thanks Hammond! And yes, all elves smell of lavender and blossoms, or lychee and coconuts...or acorns and pine, stuff like that.
Morbid Woundcleanser
player, 235 posts
AC 0 HP 42/42
Human Cleric
Fri 8 Mar 2024
at 13:52
  • msg #924

Re: OOC Thread

So what we are telling you DM, is we really want to have less enemies to deal with. lol.

Sleep, Sleep, Web, Darkness, Hold Person.

Yeah, we might have one at a time at this rate.
Vanomir
player, 101 posts
high elf
F/MU
Fri 8 Mar 2024
at 14:37
  • msg #925

Re: OOC Thread

Just wait until we bring out the flamethrower...
Morbid Woundcleanser
player, 238 posts
AC 0 HP 42/42
Human Cleric
Sun 10 Mar 2024
at 01:46
  • msg #926

Re: OOC Thread

If you ever need a quick reference, I use OSRIC for most of my rules checks.

https://osricwiki.presgas.name/doku.php?id=osric:index
Hammond
player, 150 posts
You can call me
Vincent
Sun 10 Mar 2024
at 02:32
  • msg #927

Re: OOC Thread

Vanomir:
Just wait until we bring out the flamethrower...


We're probably not too far that.  5th+ level wizard is basically a flamethrower.
Griff
player, 367 posts
Fighter. AC 2: 42/42 HP
1/2 Elf AKA Radon
Sun 10 Mar 2024
at 04:38
  • msg #928

Re: OOC Thread

Given the volume they take up I don’t think many people fully understand how dangerous fireballs are.  Really they’re good for outdoor use only so limited in their application, which is why my mages always use lightning bolts.
Morbid Woundcleanser
player, 239 posts
AC 0 HP 42/42
Human Cleric
Sun 10 Mar 2024
at 04:48
  • msg #929

Re: OOC Thread

One of my first DMs was a maths whizz. He loved calculating the squares my fireballs took in dungeons. It was very dangerous to use indoors!

33*10*10 cubes!
Griff
player, 368 posts
Fighter. AC 2: 42/42 HP
1/2 Elf AKA Radon
Sun 10 Mar 2024
at 05:29
  • msg #930

Re: OOC Thread

I've played lots of wizards and never thrown a fireball for that very reason.

Boss I've opened up a private thread labelled Spells for the DM. The Sleep write up is in there now, as is BB's Hypnotism spell .  Since I've got PDF's of all the rule books its a simple copy and paste with a little editing, and over time as spells are used I'll just chuck their write up in there so you have something online to always refer to if you wish.
Hammond
player, 151 posts
You can call me
Vincent
Sun 10 Mar 2024
at 07:38
  • msg #931

Re: OOC Thread

Back in the day we had three wizards lob about 9 fireballs into a single room in the Tomb of Horrors.  Then we went outside into the wilderness overnight to let it cool.  We came back and salvaged the slag, and went back to town.  The DM told us after the fact that it was only "the fake lich" but we didn't care.  We had a bunch of gold and we (all but one) survived the Tomb of Horrors.  Who cares about "the real lich"?
Griff
player, 369 posts
Fighter. AC 2: 42/42 HP
1/2 Elf AKA Radon
Sun 10 Mar 2024
at 08:46
  • msg #932

Re: OOC Thread

That's a good example of the fireball spell being mismanaged.  Given that false treasure room was 20 x 20 room with let's say the standard 10 foot high ceiling it had a volume of 4000 cubic feet, and the 20 foot long hallway descending to the room had another 2000 cubic feet of volume, which gives a total volume of 6,000 cubic feet.

A fireball has a volume of 33,000 cubic feet and the wizard that threw the 1st fire ball, not only incinerated himself by the flashback as the expanding fireball filled the room and then extended way up the hallway, but the rest of the party as well.  Kudos to you for getting away with it though.

The size of a fireball is also one of the factors that limits its usefulness.

If you're going to throw a fireball inside, the room has to be at least 60 x 60 with a 10 foot high ceiling, and you're standing in a corner.  In most cases a fireball spell inside is TPK situation, a lightning bolt is a much better option, though that also has ricochet issue.
Hammond
player, 153 posts
You can call me
Vincent
Sun 10 Mar 2024
at 09:11
  • msg #933

Re: OOC Thread

That's how you'd DM it.

Others might say that 5 foot thick stone walls block the area of effect such that a wizard could toss the fireball in and instead of standing majestically there in the doorway to admire his craft, pop back behind cover.  Much of running a game is adjudicating it such that the players have some fun.  Of course, you can warn them ahead of time that you are going to kill everyone the second a fireball is cast indoors.  That will at least cut down on the arguing after they cast the spell having been completely successful doing the exact same thing in their previous game.
Morbid Woundcleanser
player, 240 posts
AC 0 HP 42/42
Human Cleric
Sun 10 Mar 2024
at 09:30
  • msg #934

Re: OOC Thread

Well, the rules in osric do explain that in good detail.
Hammond
player, 154 posts
You can call me
Vincent
Sun 10 Mar 2024
at 09:41
  • msg #935

Re: OOC Thread

It's less specific about 10X10X10 cubes in the 1st Ed players handbook, but the "33,000 cubic feet" IS right there in the description.

I also realise that killing everyone is very fitting for Tomb of Horrors.
This message was last edited by the player at 09:44, Sun 10 Mar.
Luthien
player, 500 posts
Paladin
Light shining on the dark
Sun 10 Mar 2024
at 15:10
  • msg #936

Re: OOC Thread

Not every door is wood. You could lob a fireball into a room and close the door. If the DM rules the wizard can't do that, someone else can close the door for him. By the time the fireball hits the wall and does its 33000 cubic feet, there's a (hopefully) iron or steel door between the party and boom. So that 33,000 has to go elsewhere...

while fireball is hot, it's generally not hot enough to melt steel. Or even Iron.
This message was last edited by the player at 15:11, Sun 10 Mar.
Griff
player, 370 posts
Fighter. AC 2: 42/42 HP
1/2 Elf AKA Radon
Sun 10 Mar 2024
at 16:41
  • msg #937

Re: OOC Thread

l
Hammond:
That's how you'd DM it.

All good points, and as you say, those characters would have gotten use to my style by the time they got to that level.  It's only a third level spell and part of it's destructive force is also meant to limit its usability IMO.
Griff
player, 371 posts
Fighter. AC 2: 42/42 HP
1/2 Elf AKA Radon
Mon 11 Mar 2024
at 03:04
  • msg #938

Re: OOC Thread

There are also wooden logs soaked with oil at the back of the cave right?
Hammond
player, 155 posts
You can call me
Vincent
Mon 11 Mar 2024
at 03:09
  • msg #939

Re: OOC Thread

Hammond lit those before we fought the first group of returning hunter trogs.  They were supposed to create a barrier along with the glyphs.  That's the fire Hammond cooked dinner on.  I don't know how much time passed between then and now.  They could still be burning, we had some spare fuel to toss on the fire.
Vanomir
player, 102 posts
high elf
F/MU
Mon 11 Mar 2024
at 18:24
  • msg #940

Re: OOC Thread

Bitd, we just ran vanilla fireballs - as Hammond says, open the door and send in the fireballs, close the door then after they've gone off go in and see what's left. Obviously by the book is different, and I've had players killed by friendly fire that way (and by lightning bolts rebounding, for that matter). I'm happy to play it either way - not every game needs to go down to the minutiae of the rules - YMMV.

As the meme goes, "I didn't ask how big the room was, I said 'I cast FIREBALL!!'" :)
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