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OOC Thread VI.

Posted by OakFor group 0
Oak
GM, 3255 posts
Fri 18 Sep 2020
at 04:57
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OOC Thread VI

The legend continues.  15.5 years and counting...  :)
JohnA1nut
player, 2136 posts
Tue 22 Sep 2020
at 19:26
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In reply to Oak (msg # 1):

Hey Eric. You've not checked your Facebook in quite a while. I was just wondering why? I sent you some things there that I kind of wanted a reply to. Let me know!!
Tadeusz
player, 10651 posts
As you dimension dance...
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Sun 27 Sep 2020
at 01:19
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In reply to JohnA1nut (msg # 2):

I have been.  I read w hat you post.  Don't always respond.  Cheers.
JohnA1nut
player, 2144 posts
Sun 4 Oct 2020
at 01:40
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quote:
No thank you, John. Your idea of a starting world isn't at all right for this semi-supernatural critter. Much as your own game proved to be vastly different than what I had thought you meant by "super" characters, and I departed with no desire to return to what came across as a Mary Suetopia.


Carl, I've reread this a few times and I'm not quite certain I understand your meaning. What did you think I meant by "super" characters? I don't believe I've mentioned that in some time. I used to be fixated with running a game with a supercharacter, but I kinda sorta gave up on that idea. Not saying I'd never try it again. I was using a superverser to teach and train the players. It can work quite well if the player is a willing, submissive student. Someone who understands that this person knows more than they do, is more experienced than they are, and is willing to share his broad knowledge with them at no charge. You'd be amazed how many players wanted to argue with him. The guy is tens of thousands of years old and could erase them from existence with a thought.

I never understood that, but anyway.

(Doing Therapy)
Carl
player, 61 posts
Sun 4 Oct 2020
at 02:33
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In reply to JohnA1nut (msg # 4):

I'd thought you meant something in the spectrum of superheroic genres. Not something that resembled https://www.fecundity.com/pmagnus/godman.html
JohnA1nut
player, 2145 posts
Sun 4 Oct 2020
at 02:52
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Oh you mean like Marvel and DC Comics? No, sorry. Stan Lee I'm not.

The world where I run supercharacters is either Verser World where Scord is currently residing, or a world I dubbed "Supercharacter Candy Store." It's a 20th century tech world where the human population has been completely obliterated by an accident of some sort. The only (known) inhabitants are a pair of versers. One is a starting n00b, not much more advanced than the player, and the other is generally my character, Magehammer. He tries to teach practical skills like how to live off the land and how to blacksmith. So the player can eat. He's never ceased to be amazed that n00b versers usually want to learn magic and psionics before they learn how to get dinner or get a job. Also, the player is free to scavenge supplies and take anything they want.

Magehammer's first verse out, he met The Architect. The Architect taught him psionics whilst failing to mention that they might not always work. This got Magehammer into a considerable amount of trouble in his next world. So he tries to get n00b versers started right. When he's done with you, you'll be able to walk into the woods completely naked and walk out two weeks later clothed, armed and fed. He forbids you to do magic, whilst openly doing it himself. However, if you submit to his training and stick with him, you will be given a magical hammer. Only about 50% of players have run through that world well, I'd say.,

(Doing Therapy)
JohnA1nut
player, 2148 posts
Tue 13 Oct 2020
at 18:18
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Anybody here ever watch the 12 Monkeys television show? It went for a couple of seasons.

Anyway, and I might be completely misremembering (and Spoiler Alert) if I am remembering correctly.

Here goes. A lady is left alone to guard a high-tech fortress of some importance to someone. At first, all she's got is a fire axe.

First break in. The guy has a 12 gauge shotgun and 15 shells. He fires once and misses before she gets the drop on him with the fire axe. So now she's got a 12 gauge shotgun and 14 shells.

Next break in, there's two of them. One had a Smith/Wesson 686 357 magnum revolver and the other has a Colt 1911 45 auto. She dispatches them with the shotgun. So now's she's got a 12 gauge with 11 shells, a 357 magnum with 14 shells and a Colt 1911 45 auto with 2 extra magazines, 18 rounds total.

Anyway, when help arrives, she's been attacked and defended so often that she's amassed a collection of 63 firearms with about 40 rounds of ammo between them. But she never lost her fortress!!!!!

Thoughts from the Peanut Gallery?

(Doing Therapy)
Tadeusz
player, 10661 posts
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Wed 14 Oct 2020
at 18:32
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In reply to JohnA1nut (msg # 7):

I'll ask Bonna if she remembers that.

I liked Twelve Monkeys the movie.  The show at first was good, but they kept remaking it, and turning the story into something else which is an American thing.  In Britain, you have a story, you tell the story, it ends.  In America, you come uup with a start, and hope it flies.  If it flies, you realize you might be getting close to an end or whatever, IDK, so you remake the story,a nd add all sorts of confusing stuff, and maybe change villains to good guys and so forth until it finally ends in a collapse of confusion.

Now maybe 12M actually solved itself.
JohnA1nut
player, 2149 posts
Wed 14 Oct 2020
at 21:18
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Eric my thing there was not about the 12 Monkeys tv show. It was supposed to be about how she acquired all of the guns. What do you think of that tactic for getting guns?
Tadeusz
player, 10662 posts
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Fri 16 Oct 2020
at 02:35
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In reply to JohnA1nut (msg # 9):

Its a good tactic.  Supposedly its a common thing back in teh twentieth century for guerilla warfare groups which got much of their weapons from the army trying to kill them.
JohnA1nut
player, 2150 posts
Sat 17 Oct 2020
at 03:37
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The idea came back to me because I am currently cleaning out my condo so that I can try to sell it and move to Illinois. There's a certain plant which cannot be named on this board which is legal there. But I digress.

As I have been cleaning and packing, I have slowly packed up almost my entire gun collection. I am currently left with a shotgun and 15 rounds of ammo and a 9mm pistol with one loaded 15 round magazine with which to defend my home. Two guns and 30 rounds of ammo are all that stand between me and utter Chaos.

It got me started thinking about her situation and how mine could escalate that way.

Oh well.

(Doing Therapy)
JohnA1nut
player, 2160 posts
Thu 19 Nov 2020
at 05:16
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As many of you know, I am a paranoid psychotic. Today, November 19th 2020 marks the fifteen year anniversary of my last full-blown psychotic fit. Fifteen years ago, at about this time of night, I was screaming obscenities for hours on end. Now I could have a psychotic fit right in front of you and you'd never notice.

Please raise a glass of whatever you happen to be drinking, in honor of this special day.

HAPPY NOVEMBER 19TH EVERYBODY!!!!!!

(Doing Therapy)
JohnA1nut
player, 2169 posts
Fri 11 Dec 2020
at 06:18
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quote:
(*) Eric was no where near crossing the line, but you were.  The premise of Multiverser is that all verses are ruled by the One True God, and Eric was seeking Him.  It is not for you to use Him as a means to railroad PCs into your planned plotline.  If Eric hadn't ended the scenario there, I would have.  I do appreciate that you can freely admit that your assumption about His feelings and reactions could be wrong.  I think it would be far better for you not to attempt to roleplay the One True God at all.  That is a line that, when crossed, will not end well.


If I may Oak, I'd like to make a disagreement with you about what line was crossed by who? (Whom?) (Anybody know?) Anyway, people say it isn't God's will for hundreds of people to die in tornadoes and other natural disasters. Wars. Murder. Rape. Crime. Anything. It HAS to be God's will. Otherwise, God would prevent it.

Everything that happens has to be God's will. Or it wouldn't happen. That's just the way it is. We create a problem when we try to say what is God's will. Remember, to Him, we're clay vessels. How much thought would you give to the feelings of a clay pot you were making on a spinning wheel?

Our understanding is the problem.

Eric crossed the line (or started to) saying that it wasn't God's will for them to be together. Who is Eric to say what God's will is?

Just a thought.

(Doing Therapy)
This message was last edited by the player at 06:20, Fri 11 Dec 2020.
Carl
player, 62 posts
Fri 11 Dec 2020
at 06:25
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In reply to JohnA1nut (msg # 13):

You forgot that He granted His creations free will? Especially mankind?

Predestination like you just described leads to all kinds of ontological nightmares. It also ignores the issue of tikkun olam. If God decrees everything that will ever happen, down to tiny minutiae, why did the Qlippothic world(s) come into being? Why does Malkuth (Earth) need eternal healing and repair?
JohnA1nut
player, 2170 posts
Fri 11 Dec 2020
at 06:27
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I never said God planned or predestined anything. Where did I say that? I said it is our understanding which is the problem.

Not God's will.

(Doing Therapy)
This message was last edited by the player at 06:27, Fri 11 Dec 2020.
Tadeusz
player, 10682 posts
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Sat 12 Dec 2020
at 03:46
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In reply to JohnA1nut (msg # 15):

You need to start with what the Bible says, not your thoughts.

The Bible very clearly states that God cares deeply about us.

1For the choirmaster. A Psalm of David. O LORD, You have searched me and known me. 2You know when I sit and when I rise; You understand my thoughts from afar.3You search out my path and my lying down; You are aware of all my ways.…


“Can a woman forget her nursing child
And have no compassion on the son of her womb?
Even these may forget, but I will not forget you.

Source: https://bible.knowing-jesus.com/topics/God~s-Care

So...the question for you John.  Do you accept what God says or reject it?
JohnA1nut
player, 2173 posts
Sat 12 Dec 2020
at 06:10
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Still though.

Who are you to say what is God's will?

(Doing Therapy)
Carl
player, 63 posts
Sat 12 Dec 2020
at 06:31
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In reply to JohnA1nut (msg # 17):

John... what does God include?
Everything. The Godhead is No Thing Knowable. AIN... AIN SOPH... AIN SOPH AUR... three stages before His crown and throne are even reduced to forms, to symbols, that can even be described much less understood in their entirety.

How can God's will even be comprehensible to any but the most refined and tempered of individual spirits?
JohnA1nut
player, 2174 posts
Sat 12 Dec 2020
at 07:24
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quote:
How can God's will even be comprehensible to any but the most refined and tempered of individual spirits?


MY POINT EXACTLY!!!!!!

We keep forgetting that The Bible was written by God. It's probably completely incomprehensible to man.

(Doing Therapy)
Carl
player, 64 posts
Sat 12 Dec 2020
at 15:53
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In reply to JohnA1nut (msg # 19):

Written by God? Not even close, mortal.
Even the first five books, the Torah, were not written by God's own hand. The number of each Hebrew letter is the same, but the arrangement is not.
Tadeusz
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Sun 13 Dec 2020
at 01:23
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John, did God create the world?  If you say yes, and do so based on the Bible you're telling me what God said.

Now you'd be correct.  Because God did say it, and it was indeed vvery clear what he said.

Your idea works if the Bible is completely not understandable.  However, from teh Bible we have commands to study his word.

So that brings us back to the key problem.  You want to reject the Bible.  So, do you admit the authority of the Bible over your life, or do you not?
JohnA1nut
player, 2176 posts
Sun 13 Dec 2020
at 01:43
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Not gonna get into that. You did not answer my question. You seem to be going out of your way to not answer it. All I wanted was my question answered.

Or don't. Up to you!!!!!

(Doing Therapy)
Carl
player, 65 posts
Sun 13 Dec 2020
at 02:29
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In reply to JohnA1nut (msg # 22):

All right... do you understand what yetzer ha tov means? In the Sephirothic worlds, it is the drive to do good. In a sense, listening to the echo of God's words within yourself. Yetzer ha ra is the slippery slope into evil, conversely. One could say that angels of the Sephira are created with yetzer ha tov strong and profound, full grown in their hearts and minds, but nothing of the yetzer ha ra in them at birth. While demons spawned in these worlds have the reverse arrangement, starting out with nothing of the yetzer ha tov but a fully developed yetzer ha ra. In the Qlippothic worlds the two inclinations are twisted and broken much like the worlds themselves, and yetzer ha ra is what is heard in the hearts of the pious, while yetzer ha tov is the perversion. Mankind possesses both qualities, once they are adults, in ether state of reality and can choose freely which to heed or ignore. Faeries in general possess neither, again in either state of being.

When you speak for God, even in roleplay John, are you saying what He has whispered in the depths of your heart or are you speaking what your heart has come up with from your own desires?
This message was last edited by the player at 02:29, Sun 13 Dec 2020.
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