I still like my way, preserving PC inits is important when they do pervese things like mutually exclusive actions or try occupying the same space, or simply want to taunt each other.

thanks for all the input guys.

I am still rolling it around in my head. Trying to decide if its worth messing with, or if it something I just want to work around. I see advantages to all the options, of corse I also see dis-advantages as well. So I just need to draw a line in the sand somewhere and stick with it.



Also I will get us updated when i get home from work.

going to give Gim a bit more time.

Sorry I'm all out of powers folks. Next time.

Ok so, sunder was dumb, I probably just should have hacked him down, but I wanted to try some of these different combat options. Sunder is really useless I guess huh?
This message was last edited by the player at 04:06, Wed 12 Oct 2005.

I screwed it up to the result to beat was 15 not 16.

eh - at least you'll probably still be standing at the end of the round.

Well, sunder might not be much worth against goblins. And then again, these goblins seem tougher than most. Any opponent that takes longer than 1 round to kill is worthwhile to sunder, if it leaves them weaponless.

Have I ever suceeded a defensively cast spell? You aughta think its easy; just 6 or more on the dice; 75% chance. I think the dice gods are punishing me for trying to play safe with a pyromaniac gnome.

I think you still cast the spell if you fail to cast defensively, as long as you arn't hit my the AoO.  Casting defensively is just trying to avoid he AoO.

Nope. Just checked it to be sure. You lose the spell if you fail.

Reno: are you trying to break his weapon or disarm him?


I think that +4 to the attempt is a 3.5 thing, unless you are trying to disarm.
(disclaimer: I could be wrong I have no books here, going from memory)

I was trying to break his weapon in half.

But I didn't do enough damage. Even if the goblin makes the weaker check, his weapon will still hold.

I guess I have to quene up the 3.0 SRD in my favorites, so I can reference it. Or go down to my local comic junk store and get an old copy of 3.0.

Sorry Dungeon Master.

lol no worries man, perhaps i should invest in the 3.5 stuff?  ..... Nah!

Search your feelings. You know its true! Buy the newest edition and together we will game the galaxy as master and gnome!
This message was last edited by the player at 15:42, Wed 12 Oct 2005.

The young, great, powerful, and most wise Pello has spoken. And so it shall be done ... maybe.
This message was last edited by the GM at 16:20, Wed 12 Oct 2005.

I found a 3.0 book that I could refrence.

Good news reno. A spear has hardness: 5 hitpoints: 2

so if you succeed on the sunder you will break the weapon.

Yeah that must be 3.0 because in 3.5 it only lists it a "Two handed hafted weapon". So I figured it must be that.

Looking back on it. I think that you were supposed to roll "to hit" the goblin, or in this case his weapon. Then if succssesful we do opposed attack rolls for the sunder.


But oh well its done now, so maybe next time.

Thats the first time Milo was hit in this entire game.

Do Erdthar nand I have the flanking bonus now, or is it negated by the space between Erdthar and Kurag?

Vespian, the space would negate flanking because I don't threaten Kurag from where I was, but I'm taking a 5-foot step toward him this round, and I go before you, so you do get the flanking bonus

I'll be straight.

 I went out and "hob-knobed" it with the "big wigs" tonight (hopefully i get a raise) Got all drunk like an Irsh Nazi! Faded I tell you! Who know that teh wigs like to take Jager shots? I didnt. But of corse I can take me soem Jager shots. So i did, now I sit here faded and nearly incoherant(sp?) Waiting for the break of day. Will it come? willi be hung over? Probably, but who cares? do you? I sure as hell dont.


needless to say our update will come tomorrow.


Sorry guys! (but hey its friday. go get drunk yourself! (unless of corse your underage in wich case go enjoy a PEPSI!))

I am of age, but I will enjoy a diet pepsi anyway.

I had a couple tonight...but tomorrow is the night I attempt to rid my fridge of liquor.  And seeing as there is 8 bottles of beer and 6 bottles of cider, that may not be a good idea.  I think I'll stick to the cider tomorrow..prolly the safest idea ;)