For any out of character need....

are you treated as flat footed if you haven't taken an action besides the prep rounds?

Note that I will be out of town from Saturday morning to Wednesday morning.

It will affect: Thorn, Betsalesh, Earl, Scrap & Zachariel !

I'll try to post tommorow in my current fights before leaving.

In reply to Cai Bladestorm (msg # 2):

Yes.  That is why the pillar is in place - to prevent any bum-rushing at the start.

No. Actually you do not start flat footed.

I'm gonna be out of town for the weekend.

see you next week guys

In reply to GM Titus Valerio (msg # 5):

Has that changed since I've been gone?

Well, technically, it'd be impossible to be flat-footed since there are 1-3 prep-rounds (depending upon level) and both (all) contestants know they're going to be in a fight.

What shard said is true. Also it only made winning the initiative that much more of a deciding factor than it already is. I think it was a relatively popular and player driven change. I remember being opposed if only for Tel'adrel's sake (early levels he used Longstrider, followed by a maximized seeking ray sneak attack. That's how he has a round 1 KO in the records.

It is still an option to use a Special Condition to start flat footed. I don't think anyone has used that condition since we made the change.

In reply to Bogan Darkmane (msg # 9):

Yea, I think it is a good move.  One of my old characters, Dastan, was built around winning initiative and using his great speed to deal damage in the first round.

FYI - I added a new record in the Record section:

Longest Undefeated Streak to Begin Career

16 (still current) - Sen

Rules question for team battles...


Is speaking an action that can take place during another's turn?  For instance:  Jin recognizes that Earl has cast Celerity, and will be stunned.  Can he yell that information to his teamates?  Or must he remain silent until his turn?

Kind of a moot point since Earl already posted the stunned effect, but it bears discussion.

Well, Speaking is technically a free action for up to a moderate sentence...a 1-3 word message could probably be fired off as a "free immediate" action as long as the words are simple...shouting "Stun" in response to an incoming Stun effect is probably reasonable...saying "Now this here incoming spell, Spell name, it stuns it's target something nasty...you may want to duck" is defiantly out...that said, I'd probably also limit it to one "free immediate"...if a dozen spell-casters fired off spells withing a six second period, you'd probably only be able to get off a warning about one in time (at best)

Shard's thoughts match mine - thanks.

In reply to GM Marcus Attilius (msg # 14):

I'm guessing this means you're also not in favor of the "Peasant Rail-Gun."

Had to google that...funny and no.

What were the limits for a rebuild again? what can be changed and what remains in stone?

Also if isn't much of a bother can I know what my record is? (Saying it here is fine by me)

I think your name and race stay the same. Your XP stays the same (though you can spend it as per feats etc) and you get twice your XP as gold.

In reply to Tallulah (msg # 17):

link to a message in this game (just gotta find your name)

From the Rules thread:

Retraining:

Each character is allowed 1 retraining during their career. This is intended to help fix characters who would otherwise be dropped by their players.  You can change everything except name and race.  Your items and gp disappear (if you want to change any of your equipment) and your new gp equals twice your current xp.

As for the record - Shard answered that.

Just saw this in Thomas and Corthan's monster match:



Crap load of bad intentions - love that :).  If anyone else sees humorous or just good quotes from matches - post them here.

In reply to GM Marcus Attilius (msg # 20):

31-2, oh I didn't know it was that bad

It's worse than that - it's 2-31 :).

Well, both wins come from the other party having to forfeit by lack of posting rather than clear and "straight" victories, that has to be a record or something.

Hello all of my new friends I am looking forward to getting beat up by each and every one of you all. =)

Welcome Ajah.  May your time here be filled with the heads of your conquered.

welcome, don't forget to post in the labyrinth

I was reading the banned stuff and I'd just love to know how Corpse Buying came up?

In reply to Ajah (msg # 28):

For Clerics and Necromancers.  The "Animate Dead" spell only works if you already have dead laying about.  I don't know why specifically it was banned, perhaps because the dead body could be, say, a dead Minotaur, and a lower level Necromancer can raise it to wreak OP havoc.  With the ban, the only dead bodies we have access to are the ones in the arena, and that really only works if you're in a multiple person match.

A lot of arena games online put a gp rate on the HD of monster corpses. So. Strange as it sounds, corpse buying is a thing >_<

I know. It would have been terrible and awesome if we would have allowed it here :)

Because Clerics aren't powerful enough?

Edit: incidentally, you can buy a mount...what stops you from buying a mount, killing it, and using that corpse fore Raise Dead?
This message was last edited by the player at 21:57, Fri 01 Nov 2013.

Mounts are limited to one and of low HD/CR. so. Go ahead. Taking the time to kill it and raise it would be a waste.

While I am glad that (it seems) there isn't a combination of items, feats, and spells to get around such a limitation, it's only one strategy normally available to a Cleric that has been pushed off the table...

In reply to Seth 'Shard' Gray (msg # 34):

There is only one Cleric in the top tiers of the arena.  I don't think that's OP at all.

In reply to Kain (msg # 35):

Because it would replicate the already banned Leadership, just with a monetary cost instead of it costing a feat, and even worse corpses could be of any HD not just low levels as followers. But if going by judge things that aren't as overpowered and not overrepresented on the high tiers, since sorcerers, bards, shugenjas and favored souls aren't in the hight tiers, knowstones should be allowed too, wizards already can buy extra spells extra cheap (4,725 gp for a 9th level spell, that buys only a 2nd level knowstone, a 9th level knowstone costs 81,000 gp almost twenty times as much), and druids and clerics have free access to the whole spell compendium and every spell on the allowed books. Yet I'm sure that is not going to happen, they are dragon material which is preventively banned and at low levels they may be too much. A starting sorcerer who knows 20+ first level spells or 8 2nd level spells could potentially prove unbalanced.

Actually some spells from the allowed book list are banned. Which is good, or I could kill vast numbers of people by throwing them vast distances.

In reply to Kain (msg # 35):

http://1d4chan.org/wiki/Tier_System

Matches more or less every tier system I've ever come across...just because the top players aren't using clerics doesn't mean they're not OP.  Given the setting of the arena where their turn undead is either useless or extremely OP (if they take the feat[s] that let them convert turn to metamagic) Druids are probably slightly stronger in most peoples eyes.

As for the other Tier 1 classes: Artificer's strengths are lessened in the arena; Archivist are a bit obscure (probably); erudite(Spell to Power variant) is (or should be) banned; wizard are only slightly weaker (and only because they have to buy most of their spells instead of auto-knowing every spell that is in an allowed book and not explicitly banned [I kind of get it from a fluff standpoint, but mechanically, whoever decided to give Clerics and Druids that kind of spell access needs a slap up-side the head])

The fact that a Cleric/Druid/Wizard (possibly for a little gold in the Wizard's case) can research their opponent and tailor their spell list to counter them and have access to world shattering magic is what makes them OP (bad build decisions also barely hurt them, and as long as the decision was a feat, spell, or skill they can fix it just like everyone else [Psychic Reformation])

I am on my annual hunting trip with my father in law and brother in law in the Colorado mountains until Thursday night. Posting will be sporadic to say the least :).

Rufius and I will be setting up matches while Marcus is away, so if we miss something just bump the thread and we'll see it.

Sounds awesome!!  Have fun!

Ajah, you're teletyping (<tt>stuff</tt>) the wrong parts of your posts


What you did was teletype your exposition of your actions, and left the action/stat block normal. The purpose of teletyping is to format the text so that everything lines up.

What your post should look like (after posting it) is this:


I wouldn't mention it, but you've done it consistently (and teletyped one part without teletyping the other part) so I wondered if you had misunderstood.
This message was last edited by the player at 00:45, Tue 05 Nov 2013.

so that's how all of you lined it up I've been trying to figure that out and I finally gave up.

How do people feel about the Idiot Crusader?

For those of you who don't know how it works:

Crusaders (at level 1) only know 5 manuevers, and have access to 2 of them. At the end of turn, they get another one. If, at the end of turn, they have all their manuevers granted to them or expended, they recover all expended manuevers and restart the process of being granted them.

So the trick is to have the crusader be able to ready an equal or greater number of manuevers than they actually know. If a crusader can ready 5 manuvers, and only knows 5, then at the end of turn he can't be granted any manuevers and thus has all manuevers recovered and granted to him.

What this works out to being is that an Idiot Crusader can use every manuever he knows (albiet a small number of them) once per turn without using any actions to recover them (like a warblade or swordsage would have to). Additionally, 5 of the crusader's manuevers would be fairly low level, due to how achieving this works.

This can typically only be pulled off around the mid levels, level 10 or so.

I wanted to discuss peoples' thoughts on its power relative to the arena.

Actually you misread this.

Of his 5 maneuvers ready, a crusader is granted 2 maneuvers randomly. Then 1 per turn of those until they have all been granted, then he start again with two new ones.

No you don't have to recover maneuvers, but you won't always have the maneuver you need granted at the right time.

So i say, bof

The warblade way of granting and recuperating maneuvers is still better in my head.

I have a crusader, but I can't remember at anytime ever having all my maneuvers readied at the sametime so I'm ok with it. I usually use them almost every round, but that's because I don't use Warblade, Crusader or Shadowsage as my main classes ever.

In reply to Bollo the Twisted (msg # 45):

Even though the specific details of my post were incorrect, it's still possible for a Crusader to repeatedly use the same abilities each turn, due to how they are granted manuevers. It's just a matter of reducing options.

My question isn't about the feasibility, the arena makes doing so even easier actually, it's about whether or not people believe it to be over the top. Quite a few I've talked to (not here, just in general) don't care, and others believe it's the end of the world.

I'm just not interested in introducing a character and then having everyone rebel against it.
This message was last edited by the player at 03:55, Tue 05 Nov 2013.

Without Sage rulings, does the Idiot Crusader still work by RAW/RAI?

Does this make it not work:

?

From what little I've read, having access to low level maneuvers once a round at a high level doesn't seem overpowered, but if it becomes a problem, we'll fix it. Heck, Ruby Knight Vindicator got nerfed here to burning only one turn attempt a round for its abilities and it didn't even cause problems, I don't think. But it would have lol.

That quote actually solidifies that the Idiot Crusader works. The build I'm thinking of doesn't use the 'level of swordsage to deprive the crusader from learning manuevers' either, so that's not an issue.

Different builds have different qualities, there is an Idiot crusader with access to only high level abilities, but that uses some rules that are iffy even for me.

To be fair, the idiot crusader will have some high level manuevers to use, but it'll only have 2 ish, compared to the other 5 learned at early levels.

As it turns out, prestige classes that grant extra readied manuevers also grant the crusader extra manuevers granted. Page 96, though I found this out purely by accident :p

RAW, it works. RAI, who knows.
This message was last edited by the player at 18:32, Tue 05 Nov 2013.

Hi everyone - I'm back from my trip and will be updating when I can today.

Is this Idiot Crusader thing in a book somewhere or did someone just make it up?
This message was last edited by the GM at 17:01, Fri 08 Nov 2013.

Ok - I closed out all the finished matches (that have been posted in the Victory thread). Time to go to work :(.

Idiot Crusader is a min/max board brain child. It exploits prestige classes to give more maneuvers granted than known (I think) to constantly refresh all of a crusader's maneuvers each turn.

As with many min/max board creations, it has questionable RAI usage but seems theoretically sound based on the printed words.

In reply to Bogan Darkmane (msg # 52):

That is correct. If the crusader has 7 granted manuevers and 7 known manuevers, he refreshes all his manuevers at the end of each of his turns.

In reply to Cai Bladestorm (msg # 53):

I think the Idiot Crusader is only suppose to have like 1 or 2 levels in the actual Crusader class some swordsage levels so you can get into master of Nine PrC I think I'm not really positive. I've only heard off shoots of it, and you put your new maneuvers under swordsage and your new ability to ready additional maneuvers under Crusader until you are readying all your maneuvers every round. Which is very doable, by level 7 or 8 I think.

The version used in the forums works by taking a swordsage and warblade level to learn most of the manuevers available to the crusader, so that when they take a crusader level they don't have many remaining manuevers left to learn and are forced to learn only 2 or 3, thus triggering the automatic reset at early levels. They use Master of the Nine later on to learn high level manuevers.

I'm not going quite that far, my build achieves idiot crusader more around level 13, though I'm still fiddling with the details.

It seems like the byproduct of a miss-read to me.  The crusader has a number of readied maneuvers (which can be increased by some PrCs) and a lesser number of starting granted maneuvers (which, unless I'm mistaken, no PrC can increase).  Each turn, another readied maneuver is granted or if none are left to be granted, all are refreshed and the starting number are granted at random.  The maximum starting granted maneuvers is 4 (1 less than your starting known maneuvers) so even if you found a way to not learn any more maneuvers, you would still not have all 5 maneuvers available every turn (a random one would be unavailable turn 1, whichever you used on turn 1 would be unavailable turn 2, a random one turn 3, and so on).

Exploits like this in Psionics are a major reason Psionics gets so much hate from many GMs...we don't need the same happening to Bo9S...

In reply to Seth 'Shard' Gray (msg # 56):

Psoinics are horribly written, and writers said you can only have a move once even if you can take it in another class so it is an open exploit that the writers know about, but it is better than a crusader/warblade taking the same ability twice.

In reply to Seth 'Shard' Gray (msg # 56):

Page 96 has an expansion. Whenever a PrC grants a bonus manuever readied, if the martial adept class getting the bonus is a crusader, they also get an additional manuever granted.

Explain, please.

It's sad to see that Bo9S was published with known exploits...but any sane DM will look at it and say "No".

Any sane DM will look at it and say 'is this really that powerful given the level it's proposed to be used?'.

Every book has exploits, but just because the rules can be combined in a way that wasn't originally intended does not make it bad or broken. Powerful, perhaps, but not broken. Review it in context, don't just ban it out of principal.

I don't think it's really that powerful to be honest I'd look at it and say cool.

Let's be absolutely clear about one thing here - I have never claimed to be sane :).

Given that - can someone who wants this Idiot Crusader list in bullet format exactly what it will do for a high level character.

Pretty much in theory you could use it to try to ready only level 9 abilities every round if you know how to do it right, but by the time you can do it than it wouldn't really matter anyway. It wouldn't be that powerful it's more work than it's worth.

I agree with Ajah.

I've been looking into it, and by the time it is problematic for game balance, casters are still worse. In a game it might be inappropriate, but here there should be no trouble.

Going to create Darrow's battles, the monster matches that have been requested of me, and post in my current battles in the AM. Sorry for the delay!

There's really only one thing it does.

This allows a given manuever, or multiple manuevers (in the case of a boost and a strike used in conjunction for example), to be used every round, rather than every other round like most martial adepts have to (using it in one round, then refreshing it the next round).

For a Ruby Knight Vindicator, it's basically free Divine Recovery for a limited number of martial manuevers.

I'm seeing no need to add idiot crusader to the game - so no for now.

As with most trips where I can't get to RPOL for a while - I have "lost" some of the PM threads that require my attention. Now that I'm fully back, if you have a PM thread that needs me, please post a "bump" to it and I'll get right to it. My apologies for the delay.

I had a long day and Im very tired to turn on the pc I promise to post tomorrow morning on all of my fights please don't skip me, krooph or shen, please

Good morning folks (or afternoon if on the east coast of the U.S. or more east than that :) - If you have a monster fight and lose, please post that in the Victory thread so I know to close your match.  Thanks :).

Also - check out the epic duel going on right now for the Championship of Tier 9-15 between Thomas and Betsalesh:
link to a message in this game
This message was last edited by the GM at 17:36, Mon 18 Nov 2013.

I think Earl vs. Gar, Jin, Shen & Tallulah was a pretty impressive fight since it went on for so long 1 on 4 was pretty rough.

Except 85% of the fight was Earl hiding/buffing :-)

Haha, I was hiding ? What did you do in this fight, Gar ? ;)

I was helping my team...I wouldn't have done them any good to be blasted to oblivion by your sonic lance whenever you decided to come out from behind your sand wall.

We had to wait until you were finished before the fight actually began.  You held up the entire fight with your tactics.  I didn't.

yes, we were keeping Gar on a safe spot while we made a try to deplete your resources.

You didn't wait for me at all, I was attack on round #2.

Shen and Tallulah were there by round #2-3 (I was on my sand wall at round #3).

I only cast 2-3 spells and the fight finish at round #9... ;)

Is 85% 3 rounds outta 9 ? :P

I just know that it felt like an eternity. In the same time it took us to sort all rules mongering and arguing back and fort I managed to take part on two team fights, and I believe a pair of regular ones.

Let's not do that again

Well when you are going 3 against 1 than you are putting him on the defense from the start so I still have to say it was a good fight.

They were 4 vs 1 in fact !  ;)

Also, I must agree that I was on the defensive in such a fight, making defensive moves, but not hiding ! :P

A mystake can be lethal, that's why we need to agree about the rules before attempting anything...

It was a good fight, little long, but that's the deal with team battles !

I enjoy them, but one at a time. :)

You always fight on the defensive Earl, always. And I've fought you one on one, the only difference is how many days it takes for me to post again.

49,999

Congrats everyone - this is post # 50,000 for the Colosseum!!!!!  I started this arena on Aug. 13, 2010 (approximately 1,194 days ago).  That comes out to an average of 42 posts per day since it's started - thank you to everyone who plays in the arena and the GMs who devote their time to the game :).

As a thank you - I added 1,000 xp to every characters' sheet.  Thanks again and keep having fun at the Colosseum :).
This message had punctuation tweaked by the GM at 05:26, Sat 23 Nov 2013.

Quick the GM is feeling sweet and nostalgic now's the chance to get the good loot WAND OF ORCUS PLEASE!!! I just want to hold it for 6 seconds.

I will be able to answer PM posts later this morning/early afternoon (MST).

Is it ok for the loser to post on the victory thread when the winner has neglected to do so for a long time? (both declarations of consumables are done)

You mean, the loser declaring that he's lost?

I don't see why not...

Hello! New player here, hoping not to get -too- depressed by my first few matches. :P

If I knew that I'd of posted how badly Worthington beat me. I'm going to be feeling that sting for a few more matches.

Welcome, Enid....you'll do fine!  (or die trying)

Seriously though...it takes some trial and error to get a good arena fighter.

My first match and I've already made a major rules error and rolled a nat 1 - off to a good start!.

Atleast we didn't take the Critical Failure and Critical Hit condition so the natural 1 isn't super bad it's just regular bad

I'll be out of town for Thanksgiving and largely unable to post.  This affects Jin and Gar.

I'll try to update my battles before I leave this evening...otherwise, see you Monday!

Have a happy Thanksgiving, everyone!
This message was last edited by the GM at 19:48, Wed 27 Nov 2013.

Clarification - both Fenris and Iolanthe are fighting Mali for 3rd place in Tier 5-7.  If both of the challengers win, they will immediately duel against each other for sole possession of the 3rd rank.

Happy Thanksgiving!!! (for everyone who celebrates that).

Today does not count as a no post day in terms of the whole 48 hour warning.

I'll have time late tonight to do updates (PMs and such).  Work beckons....

Just rolled this, thought it was worth mentioning :
1,1,1,2,1,1

Quite impressive indeed :).  Looks like you got the 1's out of the way for a month or so.

In reply to GM Marcus Attilius (msg # 97):

Not true at all.  Fenris, the dice roller just doesn't like your character, like it doesn't like Kain.  We're better off rolling up new sheets.

Given Fenris's Build with that 1,1,1,2,1,1 He managed to deal 98 damage.

Was able to get on rpol tonight and I've got 21 PMs to look at :).  Not bad for 36 hours or so.  I'll get to a couple tonight and will get to the rest tomorrow afternoon.

How does someone win AND lose at exactly the same time?  Sen (was the Champ of Tier 5-7) defeated the challenger Worthington (2nd in the tier).  However, with the win, he leveled up to CR 8 and is automatically put in the next tier.  Worthington gains the title with the loss :).
This message was last edited by the GM at 04:43, Tue 10 Dec 2013.

Great strategy, Worth!

Honestly, i don't feel like i deserve it...

VOTE

If the same player has two or more characters in the #1, 2 or 3 rankings -

Can they just switch their preferred character with their other character OR should a GM control the higher ranked gladiator for a duel to see if the lower ranked one can take the spot?

Voting Options:

A - They can just switch with no problems.

B - They must fight each other with a GM controlling the higher ranked gladiator.

Clarification - this only will apply if the same player controls characters that are right next to each other in the rankings.

THIS IS A ONE DAY VOTING EVENT - VOTING CLOSES ON THIS ISSUE TOMORROW MORNING
This message was last edited by the GM at 17:26, Tue 10 Dec 2013.

I vote Option A...it would be the same as a different character refusing to fight/forfeiting.

I'm Fond of Fights.

I Vote B.

I vote A

Vote A.

I think Option B should be available for gladiators who want to prove it for sure though :P

I vote B.

Allowing switching can insulate a weaker gladiator from being challenged.

I vote A

A player should not be allowed to fight himself for xp and/or position

The player would be fighting a GM in control of his character.

That is far far away from the point i was trying to make

He would win xp for both his characters, one win and one loss, choosing who he would play.

I'd like to propose an amendment to option B - The character that the GM controls cannot be awarded XP (GP should still flow - otherwise the stronger gladiator will be eventually surpassed simply by the test of time).


If everyone thinks that works, Option B seems like a fair one.  Otherwise, I vote Option A.

I'd vote for that option B.

Additionally, whatever consumables the GM uses don't count as used. Essentially the Player's defending champion is treated just like a monster match.

ìt should not count(for either) in win/lose stats
(there has got to be a better way to say this, but right now i can't find it)

Then what keeps someone from flip flopping/challenging their characters over and over again to gain infinite XP/GP?

Challenge then purposely lose.  Wash rinse repeat.

I had kind of assumed that would be the case.

Treating the GM controlled character like a monster I think solves these issues.
No xp for the defending GM controlled character. Consumables don't count as used. No change in either character's ranking save swapping positions...

Anything else that comes with it?

Generally I think Option B represents "you only get what you earn" best.

These matches shouldn't be too common... Only when a player has two top 3 characters he'd like to switch...
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In EITHER case, whether Option A or B wins, I'd say there should be some time period after switching that you cannot switch again. Otherwise people could protect their hold on the top by switching out gladiators when a build they fear for the lower ranked comes knocking on their door.

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Or:
Option C:
Make sequentially ranked gladiators of the same player share ranking, allowing either to be challenged for the next rank.

Bogan's C is an interesting idea.  The only (somewhat minor) issue would be who to put in the vacated 3rd rank when the two combine.

Say, Darrow and Teladrel were 1st and 2nd or 2nd and 3rd in a tier.

They would share either 1st/2nd or 2nd/3rd equally.

If someone wished to challenge them, they would pick whichever one they wanted for the lowest rank.

Say Gar challenged Darrow. It would be for the lower rank. That would then push Tel'adrel into the higher rank should Darrow lose his spot to Gar.

When ranks 1 and 2 combine, it's still 1 and 2. The challenger just gets to pick who is defending which rank.

So. Since I'm looking for work IRL I have some free time on my hands... I got to thinking about possible new match types..

I was thinking about Storyline Battles.

Player formed teams (possibly by a draft pick done by team captains) make up a single party that will be tasked to several different missions. Some might be battles between selected team members, but those team members will be blindly selected to go up against one another and may not be availible for certain other Storyline Battles (IE, team 1 selects Corthan as their gladiator, Team 2 selects Darrow. Neither team is aware until the battle is scheduled which gladiator is paired up; Team 1 is practically guaranteed the Win, which might confer some advantage, but while Corthan is distracted fighting Darrow, his team might have to stop Team 2 from destroying an artifact.)

I was thinking this could be an opportunity to work in some of the less utilized battle types we have available, create some friendly competition, and allow some of the more team oriented builds to shine.

Other fight ideas include a "Week Long Seige" in which players are stuck in a modified version of the Ruins map as a zombie plague ravages the countryside. Players must survive a week during which there will be several semi-random encounters. Players in need of sleep and food will have to deal with that, supplies will be rationed, etc.

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This might take awhile to develop, but it would really require enough player interest to be worthwhile. Depending on how many people are interested I'll work on developing it more...

So... Anyone interested in some multi-battle flimsy story arch missions/battles?

Nice idea, I'm in ! :)

OK - Unless I saw something wrong, the vote is currently a 4-4 tie.  I'll wait until tomorrow then for a winner. If no one votes or if it's still a tie, then I'll choose.

Oh god yes. Do it.

How would having multiple CRs work?

In reply to Enid d'Agni (msg # 123):

After figuring out how many people are interested, I'll make a pool of the gladiators availible and then select team captains, likely based on which players have been most successful. Some lower CR gladiators out-do higher ranked ones, so it would be up to the captains to make up a decent team from the availible combatants... This is a new idea, so maybe the first round of drafting might result in a bad team match up...

I think the picking process itself might take a little time so as each gladiator is drafted to a team they can give input as to what else might round out the party.

You can count Jin and Gar in!

As I said, I'm interessed !

Also, Scrap Metal V.23 & Earl Grey are also in ! :)

I like this idea, Cai is in

I'll join as well.

You can count Thomas, Bollo and Fenris

Kurrag and warren are in.

I vote B.

Corthan and Trindon would like to fight in the storyline battle if that's possible.

Vote is closed with a 5-4 win for option B.

A GM will control the highest ranked gladiator. XP and GP will be awarded to the lower ranked gladiator only.  Win-Loss records will not change, but the ranking will if the lower ranked gladiator wins.  Consumables used by the higher ranked gladiator will not be taken off his/her sheet.

I added this info to the Rules thread under the Challenges heading.
This message was last edited by the GM at 21:34, Thu 12 Dec 2013.

In reply to GM Titus Valerio (msg # 120):

that sounds like fun.

Do you all think that players with multiple characters will be able to unbiasedly play those characters on opposing teams?

Depending on how many alternates we have in the mix, I could try to arrange for sufficient diversions such that I don't have to play Darrow against Tel'adrel myself (As GM running this, I don't plan to play for XP or glory myself, though I may use my toons as monsters).

I figure if we do allow the same character to play for both teams, we will just have the alternates engaged in other missions at the time...

But what do you all think?

If I were playing instead of running it, I would try to have both Tel and Darrow win since I believe in both of the builds. So. I value your input on this.

I agree with you on this. I think all of the players here that proposed multiple character would be able to use different characters in missions at the same time.

I was against the playing yourself for rank and xp, but playing yourself in a team situation is different.

In reply to GM Titus Valerio (msg # 134):

I like the idea of being able to pit two of my characters against each other; it'd be competing against myself to see which is better.

So I'm down with allowing the same player on two different teams to play against themselves.

I'm all for this kind of fight, Krooph, Shen amnd co would be very eagr to do this, it would make use of certain abilities we otherwise don't get to use and allow certain kind of low combat pcs to exist.

And I don't think it would be too bad to have different characters of the same player on oppossing teams, a good chance to have your characters put to test against each other.

I agree with everyone else that different characters of the same player can be on different teams.

Ok. I'll work on coming up with something based on the people who have said they are interested :)

The weekend was a blur :).  If I missed anyone's PM thread, please just post a bump to it and I'll get to it today hopefully.

Hi everyone - about once a year for the past 2 years I've swapped advertisements with someone who runs a Pathfinder rules arena game.  Here's his current ad:

THE ARENA CALLS YOU FORTH TO TEST YOUR METTLE IN BATTLE!

This arena game uses the d20 Pathfinder RPG core rules and supplements. Players create a gladiator at 5th level and move up from there. The battles are intense and competitive and though the game is combat heavy, there are outlets for roleplay and community:

• Compete in PVP battles for XP, gold and leaderboard status!
• Slay monsters in PVE battles for XP and treasure!
• Found or join guilds to compete in team battles for extra rewards!
• Achieve higher titles and status by leveling up!
• Buy more characters and customized options with hero points!
• Share your crafts and build ideas with other players!

Check out the Arena here: link to another game

^{Note: This game has a mature rating.}

Yep, been there, the GM there is a Jerk, not just a jerk a complete jerk.

I just wanted to point something out, specifically in reference to Timothy's wolves: you cannot trip someone as an AoO from them standing up from prone. The reason for this is, like readied actions and immediate actions, AoO's occur before the event that triggered them. So if someone stands up from prone and you take an attack of opportunity to trip them, it won't matter because they are still prone at the time of your AoO. Your attack resolves, they get tripped, they stand up anyway.

Correct.

Thanks, Cai.

Full disclosure:  I addressed these issues with Marcus in conjunction with the post (for the sake of time) and the posts were pending Marcus' approval.

Just in case anyone missed it, Gar killed Santa in his monster survival match.  Sorry folks, no presents this year :(.


This message was last edited by the GM at 17:25, Sat 21 Dec 2013.

Oops.  Sorry!

:-)

I don't know if you guys read the order of the stick, but you should really check out the latest page.

http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0935.html
This message was last edited by the player at 22:17, Sat 21 Dec 2013.

Caster Fight

In reply to Bollo the Twisted (msg # 148):

Yeah, a Psion can kick a traditional caster's butt...if the traditional caster is low on spells (and doesn't have their familiar steal a 'bauble')

Merry Christmas, everyone!  :D

Ditto!

Joyeux Noël !

Joyeux Noël à tous aussi ! :)

Note that I will be out of town from today to Monday the 30th !

It will affects Betsalesh, Earl Grey, Scrap Metal V.23 and Zachariel.

Please wait for me and try not force me to forfeit until I come back...

EVERYONE

GM Rufius Annalis has to step away for several months so we are in need of an assistant monster match GM.  As always, I advertise first within the ranks before looking elsewhere.  If anyone is interested, please send me a PM.

Happy hump day everyone :).

One person responded to the monster GM call and with all the other PMs, I've misplaced who that was - so, that person just needs to bump their PM thread and I'll get to that.

Leaving on my honeymoon (got married this Saturday :-D) tomorrow!

I'm taking my laptop with me, but no guarantees I can post.  I think the only match I have going is Jin v Fenris.

See you guys in a week or so!

Congratulations!

Congrats! That's awesome!

Wooooo!

In reply to GM Rufius Annalis (msg # 157):

Congrats!

Everyone

Anyone waiting on a PM response from the weekend - I'll have time late tonight (MST) to reply.

Sorry folks - one of those rare times when I went to bed early.  I'll be updating throughout the day today as time allows.

No problem, remember that you're not a robot and that you're already doing a GREAT job !  :)

Thanks - Much appreciated :).

I'm not sure I believe the first half of your statement :p

Yo do actually eat, drink, breath and sleep, right ? ;)

Funny guys :).  With big holidays done for a while and no football or baseball to watch - I expect things to pick up around here, so get those challenges sent off and fight for the championships of your respective tiers.

Ok - we are set for our new monster GM.  I had two players who were interested in the job - can those two people bump your thread and I'll finally get to that?

GM Cassia Gaia is the new monster match GM and he'll be helping to pick up any matches.  He'll also be taking over for GM Rufius when he transitions out next month.

Now that Cassia Gaia is on board, we're working a bit on coming up with some event matches and putting them down in the rules and fight ideas.

If anyone has any ideas for a dungeon crawl, campaign typed battle, combat puzzle, seige survival, stop the ritual mission, etc they would enjoy seeing their character go through, we're open to incorporating things people are interested in doing in the events we're going to start formulating!

Send Rufius, Cassia, and myself a message with your "Event Match" Ideas!

Unrelated, I will have been a GM here a year in two days!

Hey Folks -

NEW VOTE

GM Rufius just postulated the following:

Just thought of an idea.  Instead of forcing fighters out of their tiers when leveling up, what if we gave the #1 fighter the opportunity to not take XP when defending their title?  They could still collect the cash earnings, but defend the title as long as they keep winning.

Or perhaps even "defer" all the XP gain from title defenses until the title is lost?  This way you could keep track of title defenses without having to worry about players leveling out of their tier.  As it stands now, players only seem to get a defense or two before being pushed out.

IT IS UP TO YOU -

YES = allow Tier Champions to remain as their tier champion while either deferring or not earning XP.
NO = no deferring/not earning XP and when you level out of the tier, you are moved to the next tier (otherwise known as KEEP AS IS)

If you vote YES or NO - please also vote on whether you should DEFER or NOT EARN XP (in case the YES people win the first vote).

Current Votes (updated with post # 181):
YES: Rufius, Edward
NO: Scrap, Bogan, Thomas, Trindon
DEFER: Rufius, Bogan, Trindon, Edward
NOT EARN: 0

Voting ends on Monday
This message was last edited by the GM at 21:41, Mon 17 Feb 2014.

NO

Yes, with deferral.

No, but I would be open to the idea of tracking how many challenges a defending champ wins.


If we do this though, I don't really like the idea of Tel'adrel being the T9-15 champ at level 20 still... Kind of defeats the purpose of having tiers.

We could do legacy champions or something? Where we keep track of the champions and can allow people in those tiers to challenge them to finally unseat them and ruin their winning streak?

Bogan, the point is that the champion will stay at level 15 and not advance out of the 9-15 tier.  Only when 1) the champ is defeated or 2) chooses to vacate his/her title will they level up to 16 and beyond (and out of the 9-15 tier).

Ah! Missed that...

I don't think they should earn the XP or gold while defending. So I say defer both.

Maybe, to make it completely fair, the champions are only allowed to buy consumable items during their championship.  This way they don't really have the advantage of buying high level items with their winnings.

I would say no personnally

I vote no and defer.

Hey i'm back again.

As for te vote i like the idea but only if its defered. so yes and defer not that it matters

as for other things any major rule changes in the arena while iv'e been gone? going to try and look back through this thread but don;t know how sucsessfull i will be.

The voting is now closed:

In a very low voting (need to start some PAC groups or something to go door to door apparently) turnout, the NO's win by a score of 4-2.

So - when you level out of the tier, you are moved to the next tier (otherwise known as KEEP AS IS)

So do i get to choose my starting location or must i be directly opposite of the other gladiator if they already chose their own starting location?

Directly opposite ! ;)

In reply to Earl Grey (msg # 184):

Thank you. Just wanted to make sure on that.

Note that I will be out of town from Friday to Sunday.

It will affect: Thorn, Betsalesh, Earl, Scrap & Zachariel !

I'll try to post tommorow in my current fights before leaving.

Edit: Wrong thread. :P
This message was last edited by the player at 07:07, Thu 06 Mar 2014.

Changed Arena rule that was never written down:

XP and GP awards will no longer be given out to those who never post in a fight thread.  I understand having to forfeit because life gets busy, but if you're that busy before round 1, then don't accept the fight :).  I hope everyone's having fun and let me know via your named PM thread if I can help with anything.

Had hoped to get to all my battles earlier, but I am running late for a wedding weekend in another state, so I'm not going to be around until Sunday. This effects:
Bogan
Tel'adrel
Darrow

Hi everyone - I'm on spring break with the family this week, so sorry for my delay in getting to anyone.

Enjoy!!

Hi everyone - I'm back from my trip and will be checking in on everything late tonight or tomorrow.  Thanks to the other GMs for keeping everything going smoothly.

A record streak has come to an end!!

Sen won 17 straight matches to begin his Colosseum career (a record in the record book) - however, he tried to fight the Champ of his Tier and was finally defeated by Darrow.

link to a message in this game

Congrats to Darrow for a hard earned victory and to Sen's player for setting the bar high for anyone seeking to take the record from you!!

One of the longest low level fights, I think.

My apologies for the delay in getting back to some PMs.  RL stinks when it takes precedence over RPOL :).  I, hopefully, will be getting to everything very shortly.

I'm leaving for overseas duty tonight...so my posting (Gar, Jin, Tim) will slow down to an unknown pace for the foreseeable future.

I hope this isn't goodbye (for 8ish months), but if it is...it's been a lot of fun playing with and GM'ing for you guys!

Ok everyone - my RL craziness is over :).  If I missed anything, please bump the PM thread to let me know.

Seems pretty slow, the moment I finally got approved. lol. I posted a challange for anyone in the challenge area. If any are looking for a match, feel free to respond. Or PM, or however it works.

I have a project to finish tonight, I'll be delaying a few matches for a day.

Cai Bladestorm vs. Worthington.
Trindon and Corthan Team Monster Battle.

In reply to GM Cassia Gaia (msg # 199):

Fair enough

Congrats to all of you for getting the Colosseum to 52,000 posts!!

Also, congrats to Trindon's player for being the first to reach Epic levels!!  A new Epic Tier has been created with all those in the 14-20 Tier moving up one slot.

So if Epic levels are a thing, are you looking for epic material (feats, etc)?

I was told that most items and feats are ok from the Epic level handbook, but that spells would be a case by case basis.

Correct.

Hey gang. So funny thing happened today. My computer decided to go on the fritz and crashed beyond any home remedy's repair. As such, my posting will be sporadic at best as I try and post from my phone/3DS/library computer.

This notice applies to both Yangash the Bloody and Jazal Elderstraught.

Best of luck getting it fixed!

Can you start anyplace in particular in a standard arena?

You must start in the very corner of an arena.

What can be done during prep rounds? Any movement or summonnings?

these are in the rules section. You can't do anything that would harm your foe directly or change your position. Summoning, buffing, etc, is all allowed. Any summoned creatures must be as close to you as possible during the prep rounds.

Note that I will be out of town and unable to post from Friday to Sunday.

It will affect: Betsalesh, Earl, Scrap & Zachariel !
This message was last edited by the player at 02:10, Fri 23 May 2014.

Woot finnaly reclawed the highest damage in the arena record. i now have

highest damage dealt in 1 blow 216

Highest damage dealt in one round 593

Highest damage dealt in a duel match 593

Holy crap! I've never seen damage like that delivered! How?? If I may ask? Starting to wonder if I'm in over my head.

having 6 levels on you helps. plus the fact hthats bacially all this build does is deal massive damage. I'm a glass cannon build if i can get one hit in i will win the game. but its very easy to keep me from getting that one hit in.

He's a crit fishing charger, they do tons of damage.

yeah with my weapon i currently have a 15-20/x3 critical range.as well as the ability to power attck taking the negative to AC instead ot To hit. so high AC isn;t an issue for me and i crit often and crit hard. but in doing so my AC has before dropped into the negatives.

Like i said i get one hit in i win or i'm dead.

Okay. I was told to start in one corner. Why is Terranus allowed to start in j-10?

It's probably just a copy and paste error from being in a smaller arena.  You can assume safely that he's in T-20.

Like GM Rufius said - I just went ahead and edited in the correct position to keep things moving.

My mistake. The GMs were correct. Simple copy and paste error.

New houserule added:

- Ranged chargers can charge once a round (same as melee characters).  When the distance between them and their opponent increases by another 10 feet (like the current rules for a melee character), then they can do it again.

For anyone who this affects, let me know if you want to redo a section of your character (for free).

To add context for the new ruling, it is impossible for character to charge at a range without this ruling due to the movement requirements of charge. This enables characters that have been charging to continue to do so, though slightly differently from before.

I will be going on a family trip to Yellowstone National Park starting tomorrow morning and going until June 4th.  Enjoy the week everyone :).

After a short hiatus, the robed conjurer, Solitude, challenges the seemingly indomitable Corthan for the 1st place in the rankings of the non-epic tier.

Solitude vs. Corthan, Standard Arena!

(If I recall, as challenger, Solitude gets to select the arena, but if this is not the case, Solitude accepts whatever arena the champion would prefer as long as it permits flight).

Standard size arena is all the defending champ needs to accept. Anything can be agreed upon between the gladiators, but standard arena and conditions is the only set of circumstances the defender may not refuse.

Can't post for a couple of days whilst I fly back to the uk

Hi everybody,

I'm back from my trip and will take the next 2 days to go through everything with opening/closing fights as my first priority.

Out of town for a wedding from tonight to Sunday. I should still have sporadic access but patience for my matches would be appreciated.

This effects Bogan, Tel'adrel, and Darrow as well as my monster matches, though I will make my monster match the priority when I do get access.

Hi everyone,

I'm back from a weekend camping trip for father's day.  I hope everyone had a great weekend :).  I'll be getting to everything over the next 48 hours.

Note that I will be out of town and unable to post from Friday to Sunday.

It will affect: Betsalesh, Earl, Scrap & Zachariel !

Going to bed now and traveling ultra early in the morning (plane takes off at 6am).  I'll be out of it most of the day tomorrow I would predict and will get back on Wednesday.

Safe travels!

To clarify my last post - by "get back" I meant to the internet.  I don't get back to Colorado (and have access to all my DnD materials) until late July 6th.  We're going up to Lake George, NY tomorrow until July 5th - not sure of the connection up there - just a warning :).

Out of town for July 4th weekend. Heads up to all.

I'm gonna be on and out of internet access for the weekend

I'll try to post for my fights, but i might not be able too.
I appreciate your patience for the delays.

This will affect Thomas White, Bollo the twisted and Fenris.

I'm really busy in RL the last few days, sorry for my non-posting rate...

Also, note that I will be out of town and unable to post from Friday to Sunday.

It will affect: Betsalesh, Earl, Scrap & Zachariel !

I will try to post the more I can when I'll come back. :)

Going to be out of town from July 20-30. This is for Bogan, Tel'adrel, and Darrow.

I want to accept Shen's challenge, but he hasn't gotten back to me. Is he a GM's NPC?

If he was a GM's character, he'd be listed under NPCs. Why would that matter anyway?

Doesn't. Was just wondering why he hadn't got back to me yet.

No - he's not.  Shen's player hasn't logged into the Colosseum site since July 10.  To check on things like that - click on "The Cast" link which is at the top two links to the right of the Dice Roller link.

I'm fairly new. What the hell is Fenris??

Ask him :-)

In reply to Antaeus (msg # 242):
Scary ;)

He seems to be a wearwolf. This should be fun. :)

You guys could make knowledge checks to find out.

Leaving again for the weekend again, I will be out of town and unable to post from Friday to Monday.

It will affect: Betsalesh, Earl, Scrap & Zachariel !

I will try to post the more I can when I'll come back.

Please, can you guys wait for me ? :)

Hi everyone,

I'll be doing an update (answering PMs and such) tonight.  I hope everyone had a great weekend :).

Called away unexpectedly for work out-of-town until Thursday. I won't be able to post again until Friday.

Speaking of being called away - Unexpected trip and gone until Saturday night.  My apologies.

Got an interesting question. If you are invisible and set a polearm to receive a charge, does the act of receiving said charge invalidate the invisibility?

I don't believe so. You could notch an arrow, draw a sword, cast a touch spell and hold the charge, or any number of things that can potentially harm another individual. But unless the attempt to harm said individual is made, the invisibility is not broken.

But if I hold the polearm, the creature charges, and impales itself on my polearm, am I still invisible?
Or if I am wearing spiked armor, and am grappled.The spiked armor does damage, even though I DID NOT instigate an attack. Does invisibility stay up?
This message was last edited by the player at 06:25, Sun 03 Aug 2014.

Well, lets first assume that a creature can charge something it can't see (which can't be done mind you as you can't change something you don't have line of sight to.) You, who readied and attack against the charge, would be invisible until the point you made the attack against the charging creature. Then you would become visible again.

Rules:
Actions readied against a charge involve an attack roll. It's undeniably an attack, thus the invisibility ends when you make the attack (not when you ready it).

Opinion:
Grapple checks that deal damage will (in my opinion anyway) break invisibility, as I'm not sure how slamming someone with your armor spikes could not be considered an attack.

I will be unable to post until next Wednesday.
I appreciate your patience for the delays.

This will affect Thomas White, Bollo the twisted and Fenris.

Solitude will be mostly MIA for this weekend. FYI.

How did I jump into the Tier 5-7 third place slot? I haven't beaten Gatling yet.

Someone (I think Tim) leveled out of the tier from 1st, so Marcus just moved everyone up and picked the best candidate for 3rd.

Well,, thanks.

Under Records: Longest Undefeated Streak to Begin Career... does that include Monster fights?

Monster fights are not included. They also do not count as match victories.

Some records for monster matches are tracked but separately from player victories.

Someone told me a few weeks back that in this game, you can use either spell-completion or spell-trigger items with a caster level of up to 4 levels above your own. Is that essentially correct?

Leaving again for the weekend again, I will be out of town and unable to post from Friday to Monday.

It will affect: Betsalesh, Earl, Scrap & Zachariel !

I will try to post the more I can before leaving, otherwise, I'll post when I'll come back.

Please, can you guys wait for me ? :)

Here's the rule from the Rules thread:

" - gladiator spellcasting/manifesting level + 3 cap on scrolls, power stones, wands, dorjes and staves. The Use Magic Device skill still works as written in the SRD."

Very Important

Hi everyone,

It has been 4 years now that the Colosseum has been up and running - I started it way back on Aug. 13, 2010. With over 53,000 posts in 4 years, that averages out to roughly 36 posts a day.

As many of you are aware, I've had RL creap it's ugly head up this summer and my attention and time have been pulled in other directions. Luckily - we happen to have 3 excellent GMs who have been with us for a very long time now - GM Titus, GM Cassia and GM Rufius. They will be taking the main GM mantle as a 3 member main GM council of sorts. I will still be in the game as a GM, but my duties will be greatly reduced and "final decision" and "game rule" questions/decisions all now go through the other 3 GMs.
This message was last edited by the GM at 17:29, Fri 15 Aug 2014.

Wow, the end of an era..?

I'm sure we all hope everything in RL works out for the best and thank you for all the hard work and dedication!

Good luck with the workload and thank you too to the "new" GMs.
This message was last edited by the player at 06:30, Sat 16 Aug 2014.

Just to be clear, what Marcus means by '"final decision" and "game rule" questions/decisions all now go through the other 3 GMs.' is that it will be a democratic system. No single one of us will be going about making rulings.

Shen hasn't logged in since July 10th. How can he be in a fight? He certainly didn't stick around for me to accept his challenge...

Wow. Didn't realize you had it running that long. Congratulations. Quite an achievement.

That match was created July 5 and requested earlier. So Shen was around then.

You're very welcome :).  Luckily the RL stuff keeping me away too much isn't anything negative, just a whole lot of "stuff."




Thank you :).

I will be unable to post until next Monday.
I appreciate your patience for the delays.

This will affect Thomas White, Bollo the twisted and Fenris.

Wait!
Hans vs Jazal, with the condition: No Consumables.......


First thing Hans does is.......drink two potions.

Wth?????????

Funny :). I'm sure that will get worked out.

Hah oops.

Doing three matches at once gets confusing...

One thing I don't understand about your fight with Gerald, Hans. You're only ECL 5. Highest BAB you can possibly have at this point is +5. You have Boots of Speed adding one attack per round I presume. How then did you manage three strikes on Gerald?

It's listed in both the "fluff" and "crunch" portions of my turn: two greatsword attacks and a bite.
This message was last edited by the player at 17:29, Thu 28 Aug 2014.

You can do Natural attacks IN ADDITION to weapon attacks in a round??? I thought it was one or the other.

http://brilliantgameologists.c...ex.php?topic=10994.0

All natural attacks made after iterative with a manufactured weapon are secondary attacks (even if they would otherwise be primary).

http://www.d20srd.org/srd/monsters/salamander.htm
The Full Attack sequence for a Salamander is

He sticks you with his spear and slaps you with his tail.
This message was last edited by the GM at 19:25, Thu 28 Aug 2014.

The bite is a secondary natural attack.

http://www.dandwiki.com/wiki/SRD:Natural_Weapons

http://www.d20srd.org/srd/spec...#manufacturedWeapons

Really the only natural attack you couldn't do with a manufactured weapon is a claw attack (you generally have to give one or two up for each weapon you wield)

Holy hell - Shard - great to "hear" from you :) - been a while.

REMINDER TO EVERYONE:

If your opponent has not posted 48 hours after you last posted, please say so in the fight PM thread so the GMs can issue a no post warning.  Thanks.

I still check in every day; I never seem to have anything to say is all.

Will be out of town for mother's 80th birthday. Don't expect to be back until Sunday evening.

So i've seen it typed once or twice before that fighters can activate spells and what not before entering the arena if they meet certain requirements. However, i don't know exactly what that equates to or what those requirements are. Can someone fill me in on that or have i just made something up from nowhere/been misinformed some way?

If the effect lasts 24 hours or more it can be active upon entering the arena.

Cool. Thank you.

I bet Ms Whelk's middle name is Anne.

Reference is beyond me...

Btw, the rules thread GM info is in flux, but Whelk is played by GM Titus Valerio (as are Bogan, Darrow, and Tel'adrel).

Monty Python. Character named Anne Elk.

I am going to be gone until tomorrow evening. This will only affect fights involving Alice.

I'm working on a large project IRL that could be good for me career wise (looking for work, so I'm doing legal research for free). To keep myself focused, I'm not going to post on RPOL until after this is all done - Wednesday morning.

This affects:
GM Titus
Bogan
Darrow
Tel'adrel
Ilithyia Whelk

We've still got two main co-GM's and our wonderful creator GM to keep things running, but sorry for any inconvenience this causes.

Good Luck, man.

Sorry guys, my internet turned off w/o notice for a couple days (the joys of living on a ship!)  Trying to catch up on stuff I missed.

School has started for me and I will be busy until Tuesday. Sorry for the late notice. This affects Nova and a few Monster Matches.

Sorry if it seems like the GM's are all MIA... But... I've got interviews all day tomorrow, so I'll be back to posting in like 24 hours.

I know it's my turn with Tel'adrel and Ilithyia. This affects Tel, Bogan, Darrow, and Ilithyia. Sorry for all delays and thank you for your patience.

Is anyone running a service to tell what alignments the other characters are???
<anticipating a sh!tstorm of protests and objections>

Actually, this is quite relevant to me... >_>

Unless you find a paladin or a cleric with the appropriate spell (or you get someone like me who plays their alignment in their posts) then i guess your stuck... well... guessing. :P

In reply to Antaeus (msg # 297):

No :-)

Watch what magic people use and you'll find out. (no surprise but my bet will be that 90% of gladiators are true neutral)

I'm lawful good of course

What would ever make you come to that conclusion :)

Well I mean, there are the alignment restrictions on certain classes...

Paladins are stuck on the four corners of the alignment matrix; Monks are always lawful; Clerics you can tell by their deity - I'm not shy about worshiping Nerull!

Clerics can worship ideals though so many don't have deities. Darrow worships the invisible hand of fate :).

NG here.

-_-
very tired, I'll try and get back to business tomorrow.

My schedule looks to be easing up.  If you've got anything pending, please bump the PM thread that it's in.  Thanks!

Leaving for the weekend, I will be out of town and unable to post from Friday to Monday.

It will affect: Betsalesh, Earl, Scrap & Zachariel !

I will try to post the more I can before leaving, otherwise, I'll post when I'll come back.

Please, can you guys wait for me ? :)

HEY EVERYONE I'M SUPER DRUNK RIGHT NOW SO DONT EXPECT ANY POSTS FROM ME UNTILL LIKE MONDAY OR SOMETHING CAUSE IM GONNA FEEL LIKE SHIT TOMORROW OK BYE

Haha, that's funny, good luck man ! ;)

How's everyone doing? Any comments/questions about the Colosseum?

Hi all!

Still loving the Collesseum but RL is killing me right now (job search while working). As such I'm going to be stepping down from GMing at least for the time being. I've been in this game since September 2011 and a GM since about Febraury 2013. Not turning away from it completely. It has been one of my favorite spots on RPOL and I'll continue to enjoy it when I can with Darrow, Bogan, Ilithyia and Tel'adrel!

Hey uh, my laptop charger is broken and it appears that I might not be able to get a new one for a little bit. As it's my only source of internet, if I end up taking an... unexpected break you'll know why. I'm struggling to type this before my battery runs out, so hopefully you can understand. I'm currently physically holding the charger in place so it doesn't shut down, and I'll try to borrow my mother's charger for a bit to get another couple of solid blocks of charge. Really sorry about this, it's not really something I have control over. This affects both Johnny and Riven, very sorry about this.

As always send a PM to your PM fight thread if it's been more than 48 hours since your opponent has posted.  If nothing, send the GMs a private PM.

Public Service Announcement:
Upon reviewing the banned material 'Domain Wizard', no one was sure why it was banned in the first place, so henceforth it's not banned anymore.

It was disallowed by the GM when I requested it a long time ago. I requested for the ban list thread to be updated because I was getting muddled about what I could and could not use. =P

Man, Thorn Fury is racking up wins at a rapid pace. Gonna have to start looking over my shoulder, I guess.

Dont worry. I'll kick his ass too. ;)

Tim and Jin are ready for you guys to finally level up!

I'll be out of town with family until Sunday. I'll try to squeeze in some posts, but I have no laptop to bring along. Bear with me, folks.......

Happy Turkey Day!

Hey, this is a day of great mourning for turkeys.

Sorry for my long absence.  I've been working a ton for the holidays and have a few more weeks of long hours ahead of me.

Until after Christmas, I likely won't be able to participate in any duels, unless someone was cool with seeing maybe a post a week from me.

In reply to Nivian Solaris (msg # 323):

Also, Happy Thanksgiving to those who celebrate!

Putting this out there for all to answer. If you take a level of a TOB class, is your initiator level the higher of your TOB class/(Other Martial class/2), or figured by stacking the numbers?
If you have 7 levels of Duskblade, does it round down from 3.5, or up from 3.5 when figuring Initiator level?

If you have 7 levels of a non initiator class and then add an initiator class, then your effective initiator level is 4 for the purpose of determining what level maneuvers you have access to (though you still have to meet other prerequisites such as maneuvers already known).

It's 1/2 non-initiator levels (rounded down minimum 1) + actual initiator level.

This also applies to separate initiator classes. If you had 4 levels of Warblade and then added a level of Crusader, your effective Crusader level would be 3 (1/2 Warblade + full Crusader).

I hope this answers your question.

Gideon is correct.

Also, you round down (just like everything else in DnD)

Cool. Thanks.

I am sick. I will get back to RPOL tomorrow.

Good luck in your fights everyone.

Away unexpectedly until Friday Eve. Play around me, thank you.

I'm out of town until Thursday....will try to post in my fights before then but I can't guarantee it.

This affects Tim, Jin and Hans.

Okay. This is lovely. Getting called out of town from Monday afternoon to Thursday evening for work. No laptop, either. Will probably happen next week as well. Work around me if you have to.

I'm so tempted to make a character using only the core books (PHB, MM, DMG) just to see how he stacks up against everyone else using all of these crazy concepts and combinations.

Just roll a druid, you'll be fine. :P

There should be a category for core characters. Haha.

That actually would be interesting.  We don't have any core characters as far as I know.  Corthan - the top druid - has things from other books thrown in there.

I'm actually in the process of making an arena-ready Druid as a secondary character, but I'm not opposed to making a completely core character (not even the flaws from UA) as another alternate if anyone else wants to make one for a core character challenge.

CORE CHARACTER
I am also very interested in making just a core character. I will have a new character within a day or two ready to fight any other CORE character.

See you in the arena!

I knew someone out there would be up for it. This week is kinda hectic for me, but I should have one ready by sometime next week.

I'm back and running through everything.  Anything I owe will be slowly but surely updated throughout the day.

I'm not going to be active for a while due to family emergency.

Once Antaeus and Yangash have been updated for level change, we both need to be moved up a tier in the rankings.

Here we go again. Business will take me away from my computer until early Friday morning. This is the last time this year. Please work around me, or GM can post for me as needed.

Sorry guys backing away again til after xmas work is just mental at the moment.

Is there a published Feat or class ability anywhere that allows a Ranged Touch attack to be used as a Melee touch attack? Other than 'Hold Ray' from Enlightened Fist, that is.

Not that I am aware of. Why?

Unfortunately, I don't believe so. If there is, it's 3rd party/Dragon Magazine. And what do you mean 'why' he's a Duskblade. Pretty self evident what he wants to do. :P

Spell Storing might work for a few spells, but almost all (if not all) ranged touch attack spells are effect spells, rather than targeted spells.

*facepalm*
Might try picking your favorite melee touch spell and metamagic-ing it to high heaven. I recommend Combust.

Well, that would be nice if it was a Duskblade spell. Duskblade has a noticable lack of channelable touch spells on its list, which is one of the reasons I don't really like it. :|

Does Smiting Spell do that?

Not quite. Smiting Spell requires a Range of Touch.

Isn't there a Ranged Metamagic Feat? To change a melee touch spell to short range? If so, can we postulate the existence of its opposite?

Reach Spell.
Also multiple class features.


To my knowledge, there isn't a feat that does the reverse.


I was suggesting it under the assumption that he would find a way to add it to his spell list.

There is Reach Spell, but the opposite of it wouldn't do anything for you. It changes a 'Touch Range' spell to a 'Close Range' spell, there are no Close Range spells that are rays (that I know of), thus, the reverse would not be particularly useful for you. You could homebrew a 'Ranged Touch' to 'Melee Touch' metamagic, but that would be a fair bit different rules-wise, and well, basically just making a metamagic feat exclusively tailormade to benefit you/the other duskblades. :P

EDIT: Also, that wasn't really me going 'it's not on the duskblade list, so he can't take it', it was me going 'I wish it was on the duskblade list because the duskblade needs more interesting touch spells'. I wasn't disagreeing with you or refuting you. :P
This message was last edited by the player at 05:47, Sat 20 Dec 2014.

Yeah, I know. I'm looking at the full casters at my level and beyond and seeing their versatility. I'm looking for a way to expand my own versatility without taking level dips.

In reply to Johnny Slim (msg # 354):



Ah, sorry. I definitely agree that it's disappointing for Duskblade to have so few spells that work with their own main mechanic.

Well, the spell compendium itself does say to work with your GM on spells appropriate for casters not mentioned in the book (like shegunjas and wujens and the like.) So maybe it wouldn't be beyond reason to pull some spells from that book at least.
This message was last edited by the player at 06:52, Sat 20 Dec 2014.

I'm back on rpol after a complex couple months. sorry for the inconvenience
and glad to see you guys again

Merry Christmas everybody!
Thank the Lord for the gift!
Amen!

... and if you are not a believer in Christ, may you have a great time with friends and family and enjoy the day!

-Melvin (Ken)

Merry Christmas ! :)

Once the holidays are over, I'll be ready to dive back in.
This message was last edited by the player at 00:07, Fri 26 Dec 2014.

Merry Christmas!!