This is where you can officially complain when the other PC's frag your ass.

What about when you frag our asses?  Can we complain here too?  =P

Yes you may complain if the die roller does not favor you.

Sorry about the lull. Been busting my ass last couple weeks at work to get everything squared away for a fifteen day vacation with four kids. Spent the last 3.5 days on the road seeing Grand Canyon and all the roadside tourist stops my family could handle. In LA now but after Christmas on the way home we will be stopping in Vegas so I'm gonna relive the route of the game and head over to Nellis just to get a good mental image. Anyway we will be on a cruise and down in Mexico so my posting may be lacking till January 2nd. Everybody have a Happy Holiday!

In reply to Robert E. Lee Jessup (msg # 4):

Ha ha, best of luck! Take some good pictures of Nellis for us! Even better, have a look at Hoover Dam. I was there as a kid some 35-40 years ago, all I really remember is now merged with "Fallout: New Vegas".

It's always fun to have a look at in-game locations in real life. I am running a Twilight 2000 game on RPOL that is set in my city (Vancouver). One of the players also lives here and over the years we have made several field trips to different in-game locations that are important or interesting. (Always fun to walk down an alley in Chinatown, pointing out where you'd put the Claymores to take out the HAs...)

Added: can Laney tell what's in the Hesco barricades?

Tony
This message was last edited by the player at 21:54, Sat 17 Dec 2016.

It is clear to me Robert that you take Roleplaying to a whole new level.  Disguising your scouting mission as a vacation how very shrewd ;P, no doubt the children are all part of an elaborate ruse to throw off the authorities.  Have fun on your "Vacation" :D

I bet your kids are stoked to go on a cruise ship, I know a guy who goes every year(realator) and the size of those things when he explains it man it would be cool to see.

In reply to Lakeisha 'Laney' Carmichael (msg # 5):

Oh, you're playing/running a T2K game?  I've been wanting to get back into one or start one myself.  I only have 1st edition in PDF, but it was the original and I still enjoy it despite it's current inaccuracies for a military career path.  There was a game some Polish guy was running that was fun, but died off...I was wanting to do something like the movie Fury -- a lone MBT or IFV trying to fulfill a last desperate type mission in the post-apocalyptic war setting (with a little anime styling).  Just making time to play in several games and run a SW game for some friends all on RPOL is challenging enough right now.

Sorry DST...(to be talking about another game...)

In reply to Isabel Tsang (msg # 7):

Not worried about people talking about other games in OOC.

Not to brag but I could say I'm starting "Such and such game" and post a link. Within 24 hours I'd have a majority of people who play in my games join.

BTW I am waiting for more people to post before I make a GM post.

In reply to Isabel Tsang (msg # 7):

I think Joint's right, there's no easy way to move the barricade. Even then there's the gate. Not too many people seem eager to rat-fuck the vehicles for some reason but I guess I can see why.

Oh yeah, I don't think DST has need to be concerned about competition from other games in any real sense. I would consider his games the gold standard! Out of courtesy I would probably ask before making a mass recruitment post, although since you seem interested please follow the link:

link to another game

I think I had the Pole in my game. He left to start his own as (among other things) I don't think he was happy about his PC being under the command of a female PC. (Women have been allowed to serve as combat soldiers in the Canadian Forces since 1989.)

The setting is 2.0 (an alternative timeline where the coup against Gorbachev succeeded) and we are trying to be relatively technically accurate but accounting for some alternative procurement unique to the T2K timeline. We are using the T2013 rules set. As the location is the Lower Mainland of British Columbia (adjacent to what Americans call the Pacific Northwest) the main theme of the campaign is restoring civil order and rebuilding the province under the newly established civilian government. The composite team is RCMP-led, backed by CF "civilian contractors" (ex-US and Soviet soldiers) and US Federal Government loyalists. While currently operating in uncontrolled territory (contested by biker gangs and deserters) the team is not really out of command or isolated.

Speaking of Fury, we already had a tank duel between a T-54 and a AVGP Cougar. The Cougar is a strange wheeled "training tank" (imagine a smaller LAV-25 that is 6x6, mounting a Scorpion turret armed with a 76mm gun). The Coug' got in a couple hits with 76mm HESH which damaged the T-54 but the kill shot was in the flank from the Carl Gustav team. Right now the team is driving the Cougar, a Humvee, an Iltis "jeep" and soon to be joined by a SAM-8 Gecko TEL.

If interested, pre-gens are available. I can help with a new PC if necessary.

Tony
This message was last edited by the player at 09:40, Mon 19 Dec 2016.

I have a hard copy of T2013, might check it out.

In reply to Darkside Trooper (msg # 10):

Good system for PC combat, the vehicle rules need work as the conversion from the older versions was botched.

To clarify for Luke's post, is he searching where the MaxxPro (Jesus, that sounds like the name of an energy drink!) of the cargo truck? They are 200m apart, there may not even be vehicles to search over there. I would guess he means he's searching where the group is currently located.

Tony

Merry Christmas.

In reply to Robert E. Lee Jessup (msg # 12):

Merry XMAS!



Tony

Sorry, things kind of ended up blowing up on my end. Had a vacation coming so as one of the few capable people at work that meant a load of stuff needed to get done before then.

Fast forward to today, I'm at my folks for the holidays and off from work until January 2nd, so I should be able to start catching up tomorrow.

Merry Xmas all, and sorry for the silence!

Sorry you got killed for not checking in.....

I know I mentioned it before, but here it is again...

I'm trying to fill a few open slots in my Robotech game: link to another game

Specifically I'm looking for two 1st level Destroid pilots to fly/drive this, the MBR-10A1 Valiant:
The MBR-10 Valiant was designed to give the UEEF the heavy hitting firepower and armor of the original Destroid designs but in a mecha that was more suited for a variety of environments that could be anticipated when operating on extraterrestrial worlds. The Valiant is capable of sustained flight on a planet with gravity similar to that of Earth and operating in space like space fighter. The mecha can survive an atmospheric reentry by slowing it’s decent with the massive engines built into its legs and be fully combat capable upon landing. The most innovative aspect of the Valiant is the replaceable arms which can be switched for a variety of weapon systems and utility devices. In an effort on the part of the UEEF to make maintenance and replacement of parts easier, the sensor head, hands and leg mounted missile launchers are identical between the MBR-10 Valiant and the first generation of Alpha veritech’s.

The first MBR-10 Valiant platoons were first fielded in 2015. They saw action against Zentraedi Malcontents on both Earth and in Space. Two variants was developed, one was the basic –A1 model and has the same sensor head unit found on the VFA-6A Alpha veritech. The second variant was a command variant and has the same sensor head unit as found on the VFA-6B Alpha veritech.

Happy New Year from the Netherlands!

In reply to Arani Vasingis (msg # 17):

One thing I'd like to bring up is that, as a straight man playing a woman, it is something of a long-standing cliche in roleplaying to have my character a lesbian. (I guess dudes find the prospect of their PC swapping spit with another dude, even in the abstract, icky.) I remember fellow gamers (fellow men gamers, that is) actually doing this; after all, in the past it was a common joke for guys in general to claim they were "lesbians inside". (Because I guess we didn't really know much about actual lesbians, I guess?)

The funny thing about Joint's joking about Laney being gay is that, of course, Laney is obviously straight to anyone with half a brain. If any male PC wants to get involved with her, or even just knock boots, I'd be open to this. To be clear I am not actively soliciting anything, by any means! But she's a normal woman and it's not out of the question, any more than if I were playing a straight man who's open to something starting with a straight woman.

Tony

wwhhhhhaaaaaattttt Laney is straight, I knew Joint only had half a brain or is it me ?

In reply to Joint (msg # 19):

Maybe it's the short hair?

Tony

Just remember that any sexual situations in my games are handled as a 'fade to black.' So yes two character might talk and maybe show some public display of affection, but any thing beyond that isn't really needed to progress the story other then:
The above quote tells you all you need to know. There was no graphic detail of the 'lovemaking' it was pretty much stated that the two character did the nasty and are a couple.

Anyhow.....so if two players think their characters might be a couple (straight, gay, lesbian) some discussion in PM's are probably the best thing to do, to see if the other player is OK with the romantic advances.

In reply to Darkside Trooper (msg # 21):

No worries, it's probably not gonna happen! If it does, we know the guidelines.

---

A zombie survival-horror game I am co-GMing is looking for new players. It's fairly long-lasting as far as these games go, running since 2013.

The Last Flight - a thinking person’s Zombie Game.

Pockets of humanity have survived the zombie apocalypse - so far. Your group has set up home on a Napoleonic sea fort in the English Channel, but it seems the Infection has been released by a mysterious group of paramilitary fanatics.

You need to discover more, and maybe find a serum. Can you take and hold beach heads of English soil from the armoured squadrons of paramilitaries and their zombie hordes?

If so, the engineers and farmers among you can feed your community. If not, your community will feed the zombies and their fanatical masters...

We need soldiers, engineers, farmers, medics, pathologists, investigators. We need ordinary people, for an extraordinary job! We need re-builders of civilization - we need YOU.

HRH Queen Elizabeth II, via the BBC World Service:

When I spoke to you just over three months ago we were all enjoying the warmth and fellowship of a family Christmas. Our thoughts were concentrated on the strong links that bind each generation to the ones that came before and those that will follow. The horrors of this new kind of war could not have seemed more remote as my family and I shared our Christmas joy with the family of the Commonwealth.

Now this madness is spreading through the world and our brave country must again prepare itself to survive against great odds. I have never forgotten the sorrow and the pride I felt as my sister and I huddled around the nursery wireless set listening to my father's inspiring words on that fateful day in 1939. Not for a single moment did I imagine that this solemn and awful duty would one day fall to me.

We all know that the dangers facing us today are greater by far than at any time in our long history. The enemy is not the soldier with his rifle nor even the airman prowling the skies above our cities and towns nor the nuclear missiles waiting in their silos and submarines, but the deadly power of abused technology in the form of biological terrorism.

But whatever horrors lie in wait for us all the qualities that have helped to keep our freedom intact twice already during the last century will once more be our strength.

My husband and I share with families up and down the land the fear we feel for sons and daughters, husbands, wives, sisters and brothers who have left our side to serve their country. My beloved son Andrew and my grandsons William and Harry are at this moment in action with their units and we pray continually for their safety and for the safety of all servicemen and women at home and overseas. It is this close bond of family life that must be our greatest defence against the unknown. If families remain united and resolute, giving shelter to those living alone and unprotected, our country's will to survive cannot be broken.

My message to you therefore is simple. Help those who cannot help themselves. Give comfort to the lonely and the homeless and let your family become the focus of hope and life to those who need it. As we strive together to fight this unimaginable new evil let us pray for our country and all men and women of goodwill wherever they may be.

God bless you all.

link to another game

Tony

In reply to Lakeisha 'Laney' Carmichael (msg # 22):

Anyone have a problem with continuing back and turning on E. Lake Mead Boulevard (Rte. 147)?

Tony

Nope, as long as there is a fast food joint along the way :D

So one of the players asked me when/if I'd give you guys a moral dilemma to deal with.

Well now you have one.

Hmm... Who is in which car again? I'd like to agree with rob, but if we can't even hear the sound of our own engines over the moaning of the Zeds we sure as Hell wouldn't be picking up on what's being said in the other car.
This message was last edited by the player at 16:14, Fri 10 Mar 2017.

In reply to Arani Vasingis (msg # 26):

Just joint and Luke are in the 8 ton

In reply to Darkside Trooper (msg # 27):

When we started out the APC was just about full up with gear, supplies and crew.

2 people have gone over to the 8-ton so we have at least 2 open spaces.

Further, if we offload all the gear and supplies we can, plus all but a couple volunteers, we can probably cram at least 10 or more, but it won't be comfortable.

The 8-ton can probably take a lot more. But they won't be safe unless the horde is decoyed off somehow.

Tony

In reply to Lakeisha 'Laney' Carmichael (msg # 28):

Most military vehicles can carry way more troops then officially listed. I once had 26 grunts in the back of my AAV, plus the troop commander, my driver, and my sections mechanic acting as the rear crewman. That's 30 Marines total, in a vehicle that officially carries 24.

Anyhow the best bet is to have any extra people you guys pick up ride in the 8 ton.

In reply to Darkside Trooper (msg # 29):

Can we please get a picture or link for the 8-ton? I'm having trouble Googling it.

As well, if we transfer all the supplies out of the Maxx, how many people can we cram in if we have a driver and someone running the main gun?

Thanks,

Tony

In reply to Lakeisha 'Laney' Carmichael (msg # 30):

How many seats are listed for the MRAP? There's a good number to start with. Then add 30%.  That's how many people you can cram in there if they don't have any gear.

As for the truck ive been referring to it as a "military cargo truck" in game. Do I really have to get specific on model type and all that bullshit for a basic cargo truck?

In reply to Darkside Trooper (msg # 31):

Thanks for the information on the MaxxPro, that will help.

Ha ha! Don't sweat it. There's no need to get specific on model type and all that bullshit for a basic cargo truck. It helps in visualising what we're dealing with, I'm kind of picturing a Deuce and a half but bigger.

tony
This message was last edited by the player at 04:17, Mon 13 Mar 2017.

Hi DST,

There is power to the city grid. Is the cell network functioning?

Thanks!

Tony

IIRC I did state that the cell network was down, but you guys still had access to other features such as the google maps.  So no phone calls or texts. EDIT: now that I've seen the IC posting you wouldn't be able to transmit photos. But you could plug the phone in.  Also you guys will have about 24-72 hours of power on your cell phones. MRAPs probably don't hav USB ports and the cargo truck sure as heck doesn't.

This does question if further down the road somebody could jail brea phones and using the left over cell towers create their own cellular network.
This message was last edited by the GM at 13:43, Sat 22 Apr 2017.

In reply to Darkside Trooper (msg # 34):

Thanks for confirming there is no cell service. Data transfer would be done with a USB cord. Good question about jailbreaking the phones, I know that was possible with older analogue phones.

Does our cargo truck have a canvas(?) top over the bed? We will probably be using that for a run by the buildings to have people jump down onto.

Thanks!

Tony

In reply to Lakeisha 'Laney' Carmichael (msg # 35):

No cargo cover on the truck.

I'm going to be creating a new thread for those going on the rescue. Should be up today or tommarow.

Are there many cars in the area?

Maybe a dozen to twenty in the parking lots

In reply to Darkside Trooper (msg # 39):

I updated post. I can't access the game map so I didn't realize the cars were all over near the zombie horde.

You can't access google maps?

The link is in the 1st post of the equipment thread: link to a message in this game

I guess I'll make a third thread for those checking out the other range.......

Before I move the story forward I'd like to have a post up from everyone so all the characters can be going where they want to.

There are three threads up for players to post in:

• Main thread = Hanging out at the water tower with the MRAP
• Rescue Crew (will become group 2) = Going with Laney in the 5 ton to rescue the people on top of the building. This crew has enough people, but more can go if they want.....
• Checking the other Range (will become group 3) = Joining Jonathan, and Robert to see what can be found at the other range.

I'm waiting for the following characters to post and decide what they are doing:

• Isabel Tsang
• Joint
• Luke Salem
• Tiberus Asimov Blackiron

In reply to Darkside Trooper (msg # 43):

Just waited by for one more player to post.

In the mean time......

 if your going with Lany post in the rescue thread.
 If your going with Jonathan to check out that other range post there.

Also Annabelle has One Motorola radio.  I need to know who has the other. These two characters will have a radio thread to communicate with.

In reply to Darkside Trooper (msg # 44):

My understanding is there are 2 Motorola Talkabout hand radios (35 miles range). These are commercially-available civilian units but can also communicate with police (LV Metro, Clark County Sheriff's Dept.) and EMS bands. Annabelle has one, Arani has the other.

There are also each a military set in both trucks (5-ton and MaxPro) but they cannot communicate with the Motorolas and vice versa due to digital encryption and frequency-hopping.

Please accept my apologies if this is incorrect!

Tony

In reply to Lakeisha 'Laney' Carmichael (msg # 45):

Yes there are two Motorola's. Annabelle has one. Not sure yet who has the other.

The military radios are not working (you will need a military trained comm guy to get them working).  Your best bet is to find some working CB radios.....

In reply to Darkside Trooper (msg # 46):

Ok, I understand. Laney will leave the other radio with Joint.

Thanks!

Tony

Sounds good

In reply to Darkside Trooper (msg # 48):

Note to my fellow players: I don't want to play the waiting for others to post game, but I also don't want to overdo the posting if others want to have their say! So please get a post in if you have something to say, or even just that your PC is alert and aware of what's going on.

Tony

In reply to Lakeisha 'Laney' Carmichael (msg # 49):

To clarify, it's the GM's sole prerogative to move the game along as he likes and it's up to his discretion if players are not posting fast enough (or too fast). I didn't mean to seem like I was calling anyone out!

Tony

I would have said something if I thought your first post was wrong.

It would be nice if people would post tho, as it bogs down the game. Don't forget that wherever your character is there are two other groups of characters also waiting for you to post.

In reply to Darkside Trooper (msg # 51):

Sorry, I didn't see your last post until it was too late to reply!

Will post tomorrow, if that's ok.

Tony

Laney I will PM you what the penalty is for the maneuver your about to do. Please do not roll until then.


Does anybody know what long guns (rifles, SMGs, shotguns) the LVMPD uses? Or do you just mind if I just make up what long guns they use?

From pics it looks like they use an AR-15 type rifle, the HK UMP, and I think the Bennili shotgun

In reply to Darkside Trooper (msg # 53):

Sounds good to me!

After a bit of half-assed looking I can't find anything on what long-arms Metro uses, and it looks like they have a number of different SWAT teams. Plus there could be Clark County SD present, for all we know...

Tony

In reply to Darkside Trooper (msg # 53):

Just a little research I did, but again they can be armed with SigSauer 1911 45apc for all I care.

Shotguns I saw in photo's were Remington 870's, Benelli's are great but outside I think normal police budgets.  I was looking at picking up my first shot gun and a Benelli will run past the $2000 mark.

Their rifles through all the pics I looked at are definitely AR platform. looks like they are aloud to customize to there preference also.

One quote I found on for on duty officers

"I noticed one officer was carrying a Springfield XD, while the other one was carrying a Glock. The next morning I stopped and asked one of the officers who was standing by the sidewalk about his weapon, which I could tell was a Glock. He carried a Glock 17 and told me the department authorized Glock, S&W M&P, Springfield XD, and I think SIG was the 4th choice. The officer could also choose between 9mm, .40 S&W and .45 ACP."

Wikipedia:
Firearms training takes place at the LVMPD John T Moran Tactical Firearms Training Facility located near Nellis Air Force Base, and named for the department's second sheriff. The facility is used by numerous local, state, and federal law enforcement agencies. At the facility, recruits receive several weeks of firearms training during the academy. Commissioned police officers must attend firearms re-qualification four times a year. This re-qualification is for all firearms. The qualifications include known-distance targets and tactical courses of fire in both regular and low-light.

Officers can choose their sidearm off a list of weapons including Glock, Heckler & Koch, Sig Sauer, Smith and Wesson, and other manufacturers. The preferred calibers are 9mm, .40 S&W, and .45 caliber. [15]

In reply to Tiberus Asimov Blackiron (msg # 55):

I read the same stuff you quoted. In the pics I saw I really couldn't tell the type of shotgun.

In reply to Darkside Trooper (msg # 56):

I stand corrected if you look up Benelli M1 without the pistol grip I think that is the exact shotgun I saw in one of the LVMPD pic....go LVMPD nice hardware

In reply to Darkside Trooper (msg # 56):

Man, those guys keep their longarms close to their chest! Figuratively and probably literally. While it's easy to find their guidelines on makes and calibres of sidearms (pretty wide) I can't find word one on their shotguns, SMGs and rifles/carbines.

I even went through their regulations concerning authorised firearms and equipment and there is nothing really specific there, other than mention of qualifying with a MACTAC sniper rifle. One thing I did find in a newsletter is that LV Metro probably does use Benelli M-series shotguns:

"On Jan 17-18 John Nagazyna from Las Vegas Metro PD hosted preSHOT
Show armorer courses for the Benelli M-Series and Springfield
Armory XD/XDm."

http://www.teamonenetwork.com/...SITREP_Vol11_No1.pdf

Tony

In reply to Lakeisha 'Laney' Carmichael (msg # 58):

I looked all over too which is why I enlisted help here in OOC.

When the 000 buck pops J.P.'s melon he won't even care if it's a shitty Mossberg.

Well its a good thing JP has body armor on. Well it's a good thing Rob has armor too.

Uh Oh.. probably a real good thing.

In reply to Robert E. Lee Jessup (msg # 60):

This doesn't sound good!

Tony

Yes shit is happening for all three 'groups'.

Is anyone opposed to using the PS stat to determine the dice rolls liked in H2H combat?

Basicly instead of a flat bonus for those characters with a PS of 16 or higher you'd roll a different about of dice.  This isn't meat to limit the PCs but to limit bad guys who have a high PS from killiing a character with a single hit. That and if two PCs get in a fist fight.

I would never cave in anyone's skull with a punch, I would pull my punches
This message was last edited by the player at 03:39, Mon 22 May 2017.

Yeah but if you 'fail' to pull punch.....

Ruh-roh!

I have seen other games where the "backup" got distracted and decided to wander off, then got themselves into trouble. I realised, too late, the same might happen here. As the old adage goes: "don't split the party"!

Tony

On vacation through next tuesday and internet will be spotty in some areas.

Ok here's hoping Rob doesn't bleed out from a bullet wound to the arm.

I got plenty of characters :)

There's some good loot from one of the dudes you wasted BTW.

In reply to Darkside Trooper (msg # 72):

Fun fun fun for our heroes!

As a note, I am just waiting for a GM reply to a PM before posting.

Tony

UGH!

Sorry, thought i posted but apparently not... I'll take a look at it tonight >_<

Well whatever you do don't fall out the back of the truck.

Hmm, so if I use Body Flip and Leg Hook combat actions, would that cause crazies to fall off the truckbed or would that be I'll advised?

In reply to Arani Vasingis (msg # 76):

DM can correct me if I'm wrong but luckily the crazies can't climb in the truck bed.

They can reach up at the rear and grab people in the bed, and maybe drag them off, but they are not actually in the truck at this point. If they were, you could probably use martial arts on them, I suppose.

Tony

I think that's everything... Hope i didn't mess up anywhere, specifically the part about the multipliers.

Everyone please make sure you keep track of your ammo. If not you will find yourself suddenly 'out of ammo' in the middle of combat.

Yeah, it's why i switched to aimed shots.

My gun's currently empty and i've got 8 bullets left, .44 Mag if anyone's interested.
This message was last edited by the player at 22:06, Sat 03 June 2017.

Cool, make sure your equipment sheet is updated.

And done.

Listed Payload as 0/6 since i'd need to reload next.

By the way, who's Ann Oakland? Googling it comes up with a writer.
This message was last edited by the player at 00:00, Sun 04 June 2017.

In reply to Arani Vasingis (msg # 82):

A relatively famous historical person in the Old American West:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Annie_Oakley

Annie Oakley was a phenomenal sharpshooter.

Tony

Thanks. Not sure why i typed Oakland instead of Oakley, but that'd explain it :)

In reply to Arani Vasingis (msg # 84):

Ha ha, that would explain it. I also had no luck Googling "Anne Oakland" until I realised what the name really was. As well, while we're both ferners I probably have been exposed to much more American culture and history than you!

Tony

Just an FYI for everyone...the latest Dead Reign book is on sale from the PB store for 14-15 bucks.

As an aside, the only reason I've bought the books is because I'm actually running a successful game....

In reply to Darkside Trooper (msg # 86):

As well you should.

And you should take a bow! Running a successful zombie survival-horror game is not easy.

Tony

A successful RPOL game is always worth celebrating.

In reply to Lakeisha 'Laney' Carmichael (msg # 85):

Considering i've never been to the US and the only exposure to US culture i'm getting is through Hollywood, Disney and McDonalds, that's not a feat that's hard to achieve ;)

And yay for successful games ^^

How do we calculate our perception score or bonus?

And kudos on several successful RPOL games.  I can't find quite the same feeling and detail in any other games.

Perception is just a 1d20 and there isn't much that grants bonuses.

In addition to working on how you guys will be able to take on one of the Post Apocalypse OCC's I figured I might as well let those who are interested take on a different set of common skills based on how you grew up. If your in my currently running Robotech game you've probably seen the common skill sets, and how I broke down occupations into three categories.

Anyhow please PM me if you like to 'test out' the transition to a Post Apocalypse OCC's.

I would like to see how my ordinary construction skills hold up

Same here, I would like to see where I can go turning TAB into a kinda Spartan Zombie killer.

Sorry where is the link to the game map again.... JOINT <-----idiot :D

Equipment thread:  link to a message in this game

Oh there it is.....my brain that is....thank you Sir

Just worked a 15 hour day framing, so if my post makes any sense I feel like a hero :D

So I have a curious question...Laney and Joint have their little spat...How the hell can they even hear one another.  Case and point is I was operating a Zoomboom(big fork lift with extending arm) and when I was shouting out to my helper he couldn't even hear me and we were only 30 ft apart.  I generally shut the engine off when we need to talk about our course of action on a pick we are gonna do.  Now you throw in two big diesel engines and a theoretical zombie mob I honestly don't think unless we were using two ways the whole time we could communicate without loosing our voices.


 Just kinda hit me today as we were just using hand signals to move material around and in place.

In reply to Joint (msg # 98):

15 hours sounds pretty brutal, especially if you're working with heavy equipment in the sun. You are definitely my hero, big boy!

I figure the engines would be idling? They can't be too loud or else the drivers would need ear protection! Not quiet but possible to yell over top. And we could be parked side-by-side, not 30 feet away. Or we could shut one of both of them down, then restart when we need to go (after the length of the post for Joint the mob has almost certainly caught up by now).

But yeah, after about a line or so I was thinking Laney would suggest they start driving and finish the discussion elsewhere.

Tony
This message was last edited by the player at 08:00, Sat 08 July 2017.

We could talk loud over the engines of our AAV's which have much bigger diesel engines ( https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/...t_Amphibious_Vehicle ) then a cargo truck or MRAP.


So from the GM perspective I don't see an issue.

all good by me, probably in my case the engine is only shrouded by a thin metal covering.  So more like a big rig sound then a fully exposed engine..well then let us banter away :D

In reply to Joint (msg # 102):

If it's cool I'd like to post a reply. Most of the PCs have had their say in some way or another with the exception of Luke. My apologies if it would have been better for me to wait for him to post!

Thanks,

Tony

If possible I'd like to take a few minutes to go to the other smaller range and get sorted out. Presumably that is still happening but overall we're cutting to the chase?

Tony

Depends on where the people driving the vehicles decide to go....

For now I just want a post from everyone stating which vehicle they want to be in/on.

The reason I havent named or described any of the people rescued is in case a PC gets killed and has to make another character.

In reply to Darkside Trooper (msg # 106):

Ah ok, that makes sense. Would you like me to change my post?

My post was speaking more to the reality that if we're gonna be "kicking down doors" with these folks we need something to call them, other than "hey you". Otherwise, no harm, no foul.

Tony

In reply to Lakeisha 'Laney' Carmichael (msg # 107):

I don't want to be naming and craeatung NPCs who may or may not be around for long.

Of course if Arani rolls the truck in the middle of the Zombie horde people will be making new characters.

In reply to Darkside Trooper (msg # 108):

Well i DO have a pilot character in another scifi RP that's pretty decent at everything... except piloting. For one reason or another she's crashed every ship she's ever flown.

Except for this large Battlecruiser. That blew itself up.

Cars have wheels though, you should be perfectly safe.

I am sure there are hardened anchoring points in the truck bed, is there anything that we could use to tie ourselves off so if a zombie does grab us we won't get pulled off a easy?  Directing this question to our GM.

In reply to Tiberus Asimov Blackiron (msg # 110):

While there probably are anchoring points to hold down pallets I don't think you guys got something to tie your self down with.

In reply to Darkside Trooper (msg # 111):

Well damn, I am not overly confident in Arani's driving skills after her post above ;P, good times ahead

In reply to Darkside Trooper (msg # 111):

We might fashion something from our web gear? Perhaps hook a D-ring to a loop on our LBE or vests, and a pallet tie-down ring?

If nothing else we have belts. But there goes our pants! And the cab has a bench seat that might have seat-belts. I call dibs!

But as Arani's player states they only have a problem with ships. Trucks? No worries!

Tony

Y'all probably don't have time to rig stuff up.

In reply to Lakeisha 'Laney' Carmichael (msg # 113):

Trucks are land ships, them and some old school cars

I originally thought you meant you operated a "Zamoboni". Because as a Canadian that's where my mind automatically went!



Tony

My apologies, I was just thinking about this. There should be enough time to rig something simple once we get turned around? Five, maybe ten minutes until the mob of crazies arrives at the other, smaller range?

The mob is about 500m from the smaller range and our turn-around point. The average human walking speed is .5 km/h, but let's say they are motivated and worked up, going triple walking speed: 1.5 km.h. This will take them twenty (20) minutes to walk along the road to our RV/turn-around point.

To clarify: the plan is to get turned around at the other range.

We are not leaving to do our rescue thing this minute. This should not be what's currently happening in game, and please accept my apologies if that wasn't clear. Please advise if I am missing something.

Map has been updated. I didn't touch the vehicle or personnel markers, only the current route:

https://drive.google.com/open?...evZk&usp=sharing

Tony

I think what he saying is "there isn't time" something in his head that we don't know about....so I am just gonna brace myself real nice

I think I have mentioned this before.....Laney isn't driving a vehicle anymore, so the vehicles will go where the drivers want them to go....

As for strapping yourselves in.....there isn't much you guys have on you to strap yourselves in with.

Also since this the Out OF Character thread none of the stuff here can be used in character unless it's discussed in character (yes this is the GM being an asshole because he doesn't like meta gaming).

Simple questions are ok in OOC. Long posts full of ideas/plans are not.

In reply to Tiberus Asimov Blackiron (msg # 118):

Fair enough!

At any rate I'd rather over-communicate than under-communicate, if you know what I mean. My apologies to the GM if that comes across as annoying.

Regarding what the GM says:

1) True, Laney is not driving, and it's up to Arani to go along with her suggestion.

2) This intention has been communicated IC a couple times, I don't think I can do more on that front. That said I don't think I have nor would I intentionally try to direct or suggest actions here in OOC Instead of IC. I have many faults but making detailed IC posts are not one of them!

3) Having said that I'm not making any IC suggestion in OOC. I'm just trying to nail down the details of what is going on. Hopefully, that's not out-of-bounds.

Thanks!

Tony

Please hammer out details in game...you guys could sit here and post for 3-4 weeks in OOC trying to devise the best way to do something while in game time stand at a standstill.

In reply to Darkside Trooper (msg # 121):

I don't want to over-post but if you don't have a problem with me asking IC how fast the mob is moving, plus reminding Arani where we're going, then done!

Tonty

Hey, i'll have you know that in all my crashes i only killed two PCs out of six.

And... maybe a couple of NPCs too.

Annnnddddd I want a five point harness with a bubble suit :D

Sniper rifle lady (NPC) just offered up two Keep It Simple Stupid (KISS) options instead of let drive off and decide more shit by committee.

Also please post in your respective thread.

With all due respect, I don't think any shit is being decided by committee. We're all basically on the same page.

Laney's counter-suggestion was to use the side road, which we can see from Carey Ave. In your GM opinion is that a viable way to get around the mob? Jonathan would have had a good view of it up on the water tower so we can ask in-game, or Laney can climb up there herself.

As well regarding my IC question, any word on how fast the mob and individual crazies are moving?

Thanks!

Tony

In reply to Lakeisha 'Laney' Carmichael (msg # 127):

I did say how far way they are.......

BTW the NPC is posting the obvious about turning around. As the GM I'm just played my her in character as frustrated you guys are taking your seeet ass time.

Sorry, been a crazy couple of weeks here rather than the quiet one it was scheduled to be. I'll get a post in by tonight.

No worries.  Let's just hope the truck doesn't spontaneously explode on you.

Thanks ^^

Oh, and TAB, don't make me bring up my Engineer in a sci-fi Call of Cthulhu game. She was a nice girl, got good rolls too so she was good at what she did, but OMG, her ability to be in the wrong place at the wrong time was stellar.

On a spaceship with multiple areas where it took half an hour to go from one end to the other, she was physically present during all PC deaths and major injuries all the way up to Chapter Two. Either they died with her in the room, or she was the last person to talk to them. And every time she came out of it unscathed too.

And then she (GM) rolled really well on a tome of eldrich lore and learned how to summon an Elder God.

So yeah, chance and the Dice had decreed her the Harbinger of Death, more or less.

BRB, rolling for Arani's driving :P

Roger that. Without knowing their speed that data is not as useful as you might think.

How fast are they travelling?

Tony

In reply to Lakeisha 'Laney' Carmichael (msg # 133):

Yeah but then that would be Meta gaming, so we just get to guess.  There are fast ones slow ones and real slow ones .  We know that in character cause of our in game experience.  An estimate is all I generally give my players when GMing.

In reply to Lakeisha 'Laney' Carmichael (msg # 133):

Wel they traveled ten yards so far.......

Ha ha ha!

Yeah, but how long does it take for them to traverse this? One 15-second turn?

(I am reminded of how in Star Wars the Millennium Falcon could make the Kessel Run in less than 12 Parsecs. But as a Parsec is a unit of distance, without knowing the time it took to travel there is no way to determine the speed.)

As well, when we were at the base of the water tower, we would have had a view of the area to the immediate north. Are either of the proposed routes viable? (See map.)

https://www.google.com/maps/d/...09253483429&z=18

If you say no, that makes things simpler. But I like the idea of going around instead of through.

Tony

Also unlike Robotech you guys don't have CPUs radars lidar and laser range finders

Right, that's all I am asking, relative to (say) a human. I am glad we're on the same page!

We can all do this, right? At least I can do this, in real life, and I do not have any special training, nor am I especially observant. But I can tell the difference between someone who's walking slow, walking fast, or running, and figure out how long it will take to get to me.

Tony

Ha ha ha ha!

Should my character attempt to eyeball a target at BVR, I shall keep that in mind! But we're not talking about judging the speed of an aircraft at 30,000 feet or a ship on or over the horizon.

There may be some confusion here. While I am asking about the speed of the zombies I'll be happy with just a relative speed. Human walking speed, slower, faster, etc.

Tony
This message was last edited by the player at 20:51, Thu 13 July 2017.

In reply to Lakeisha 'Laney' Carmichael (msg # 138):

If this get me kicked I get it...Laney you already know how fast they are relative to all the information given to us and how fast they travel.

From the time this game started, one of the threads you were driving if I am not mistaken and they were able to keep pace with a vehicle(So fast one.)  Since you drove to rescue those people and then drove away from the building to our current position and we have been in discussion.  They have covered that distance minus I think now last report they are within 70 yards.  We have google maps, we can now estimate that time, but it is irrelevant.


So no I am not on "the same page" as you!, because from are game play we are easily able to determine they are as slow, or as fast or way faster then us as humans.
So we can safely assume in character and out of character that a zombies speed is relative to the speed the GAME MASTER wants the game to flow from scene to scene.

In reply to Tiberus Asimov Blackiron (msg # 140):

"If this gets me kicked..."

Lol, you should see some of the shit I've gotten away with in DT's games.  :)

Here's the simple answer.  The GM is OCD when it comes to numbers because he's a fucking accountant. The GM would rather just say in one post the Zombie's are 100 yards away then in another say they are 10 yards closer (which is what I've done) instead of doing a fuckload of math that my OCD says has to be correct 100%.

I've only technically kicked two players from my games.

One refused to play/interact with another player's character.

The other was such a dumbass in his games I left.  Asshole decided to ban me from his game so I 86'd his punk as from my games.  Had the audacity to ask me to unban him once (probably so he could steal my shit).

"Laney"? Ha ha! I'll tell her you said that! And no, it probably won't get you kicked

Sure, if you maybe want to say I'm not as swift as you are because you carefully teased out some information I've not been able to, that's fair. Other than that, I'm not asking because I'm trying to annoy the GM after a hard day at the office, I'm asking because I'm obviously somehow being dense. (I do make up for any lack of intelligence with movie-star good looks. Personal hygiene is only so-so, I'm afraid.)

That said, I really don't think you are correct. The zombies we've seen haven't been able to easily keep up with a moving vehicle (as we easily outpaced them when we were rolling and not stopped).

Copy that, I got the distance (100m, then they are 10m closer) and thanks for that,  but I didn't get the time it took them to cover that distance. Even without a watch a normal person could tell if someone is moving at a walking speed, running, etc. (or some are running, some are walking) As a GM I would totally give at least basic situational information like that without a second thought. But then I'm probably a shitty GM.

If that's the best answer I'm going to get (roughly a human walking speed) then groovy! On with the show!

Tony
This message was last edited by the player at 03:19, Fri 14 July 2017.

In reply to Lakeisha 'Laney' Carmichael (msg # 144):

Please be aware that you guys won't suddenly find your self surrounded in the current situation.

In reply to Lakeisha 'Laney' Carmichael (msg # 144):

"Laney"? Ha ha! I'll tell her you said that! And no, it probably won't get you kicked.  Really up to the GM is it not, ...since this might be considered drama or flaming.

Sorry, TONY...seriously holy shit

You sir/madam are passive aggressive hiding it under mock humor,...nothing was gleaned and I did not say I was smarter by "teasing out information" or even implied it.  I simply stated what I have read over the course of this game over the last few months as I have been playing along side you and the others reading their posts.

And a zombie running after a ford f-150 is called keeping pace even if you are gaining distance from it.  A zombie chasing someone on a peddle bike and keeping pace is fast zombie.  A zombie mob covering the distance from the range to our present location, yeah they are going at a pretty good clip.  But in the end "I really don't think you are correct either, so lets agree to disagree.

You clearly want something like zombie x has traveled 2.5 meters every 10 secs...blah blah blah....which is f'ing retarded in a alternate reality fictional game.  It is to the point it seems like you are going to be asking the specific stats for each zombie in the horde.

And then when you don't get this information you go all "ON WITH THE SHOW!!!!!!" and lets play on. I didn't mean to cause drama..blah blah blah.  The way you go about things is to get what you want and it is childish.  All I asked is if there were harnessing points in the truck, GM said no and we most likely didn't have time....then you go a freaking well this distance plus blah blah blah...who gives a shit GM said no, play on.

So am I pissed and stepping out side of my role, shit yeah I am, do I think this wise posting this no I don't, but I am tired of every time there is a question on a fictional game, you going all reality check on us and the GM.  I know beyond a shadow of a doubt that seeing as he is ex military he does not need some civilian to fight a keyboard battle for him.  But seriously piss off with being so self righteous with comments like "That said, I really don't think you are correct."  Whoever you are, you play your characters fantastic, but in OCC you are a total "a hole" I look forward to reading your response since it seems you need to have the last comment.

Again if this get me removed I understand and I genuinely hope you have a great game and this is a fantastic game with great characters.

IRL drops keyboard walks away....seriously

Is a keyboard drop the geek equivalent of a mic drop?

In reply to Tiberus Asimov Blackiron (msg # 146):

I will cop to being an asshole, and so please accept my apologies for upsetting you. That certainly wasn't my intent.

Thanks,

Tony

In reply to Robert E. Lee Jessup (msg # 147):

In nerd rage yes

I wish I had a like button for players posts.

Ok so the above OOC posts are exact why I have an OOC thread.

To me OOC is a place to ask simple questions or air out dirty laundry.

While I do see two players disagreeing and a little bit of attacking what I've seen thus far isn't too far.

...Actually, it being a unit of distance is the whole point.

The Millenium Falcon isn't built for speed, it's not an 'engine with wings' like a racer.

The whole point of that Kessel Run was to find the most efficient way to get from A to B, in this case doing it in under 12 Parsecs. Thus, more efficient hyperspace lanes are found leading to more efficient fuel-to-profit ratios.

Speed was never a factor, as most of the time it's going to be populated by large freighters anyway.

Don't forget that how Han did make the Kessel run in 12 parsecs was by traveling  close/through 'The Maw', a group of black holes.

In reply to Arani Vasingis (msg # 151):

Agreed, I like the "through the Maw" explanation and found it elegant when I heard it proposed decades ago, long after I first saw Star Wars in the theatre. (And drive-in. And saw it a lot of times in 1977 and a year later when it was re-released in theatres in 1978, something they did in those days.) As an explanation, though, this is a relatively recent one. At the time, believe me, it seemed either very silly or a mistake in terminology; one more reason Star Wars was ridiculed by the SF community at the time!

Tony

Tony

So who would be bummed out if the cargo truck drove into a sink hole that turns out to be a Sarlacc?

Does anybody read OOC?


Anyhow I think the figuring out who the HMFIC is gonna be is good no to some interesting RP the read. That said please let's not discuss it here. I think too much would be ruined.

Not just a rhetorical question, eh? Yes, yes it would suck!

Figuring out the HMFIC is something that should happen IC, if it's not de facto academic. We could always form an anarcho-syndicalist commune:

Arthur: Please, *please*, good people, I am in haste!  WHO lives in that
castle?
Woman: No one lives there.
Arthur: Then who is your lord?
Woman: We don't have a lord!
Arthur: (surprised) What??
Man: I *told* you!  We're an anarcho-syndicalist commune!  We're taking
turns to act as a sort of executive-officer-for-the-week--
Arthur: (uninterested) Yes...
Man: But all the decisions *of* that officer 'ave to be ratified at a
special bi-weekly meeting--
Arthur: (perturbed) Yes I see!
Man: By a simple majority, in the case of purely internal affairs--
Arthur: (mad) Be quiet!
Man: But by a two-thirds majority, in the case of more major--
Arthur: (very angry) BE QUIET! I *order* you to be quiet!

Tony
This message was last edited by the player at 07:31, Mon 24 July 2017.

I read the OCC...I just was never much of a Stargate Fan ;P

Uhh...

*boots up Google Translate*

The Sarlacc is a creature from Star Wars......

HMFIC = Head Muther Fucker In Charge (i.e. Group leader).

That wasn't the part giving me trouble ^^;

I apparently didn't write a understandable sentence.....

It should be a good reading of the role play to see how the situation is resolved, it might even result in a group split or somebody (or several sombodies) getting wasted.

As an aside, I don't have an issue with PvP combat to the death as long as its IC. You can't just blow a characters head off because the player was a dickhead to you in OOC or pissed you off in some other game.

Yep, whatever happens, happens.

Arani will help everyone to survive as best she can, but won't hesitate to cut her losses when the risk is too great. The plan she came up with minimizes the risk to her (group), and she wouldn't bat an eyelash about the cultists in the shooting range, especially after the MRAP's been shot at. To her, they're officially SEP -- Someone Else's Problem.

In reply to Darkside Trooper (msg # 160):

Star Wars that has Jaba the Butt in it right, along with Captain Poocard.....all shows that I love...just messin...I watched all those movies when they were still on VHS/beta....I have been meaning to bing watch all the Battle star galatica both old and new
This message was last edited by the player at 18:19, Mon 24 July 2017.

In reply to Tiberus Asimov Blackiron (msg # 164):

I actually got the Doctor Who episodes somewhere on my HD. The really old B&W ones from the '60s, with William Hartnell.

They rebooted it at some point, but it's surprisingly amusing to watch as long as you keep the whole "CGI? We barely have computers!" thing in mind, and sets you up nicely to understand most of the nods towards older Doctors in later seasons.

Last couple of weeks have been hell sorry no posts. Going to work on one tonight. It sucks not having access to both threads. Not just because the "Fog of War" but I wanted to reference Joints post where he ripped on Laney. I remember the gist of it though :)

My apologies! I was heading out for a few days out of town with my family and someone stole my laptop out of my car. Replacing it shouldn't be too difficulty but with the difficulty in posting using my phone I've learned things go. I will try and make a quick post now but won't be able to really do more until Sunday.

Thanks!

Tony

In reply to Lakeisha 'Laney' Carmichael (msg # 167):

Shitty to hear about your laptop, sucks when someone jacks your stuff

In reply to Lakeisha 'Laney' Carmichael (msg # 167):

Assholes!

Sorry to hear that Laney, someone tried to steal my Origin account with a number of games on it last week, but i managed to grab it back some ten minutes later. Wouldn't have been much use to them anyway, i never ever leave money in those accounts and don't save billing info anywhere either, so i should be good.

Just as an aside, you have changed the passwords of everything your laptop autologs into, right? Bank accounts being particularly sensitive, as are emails you use for verification purposes when you're trying to change passwords to other sites.

In reply to Lakeisha 'Laney' Carmichael (msg # 167):

That sucks.

I will have something up tonight

In reply to Joint (msg # 168):

It does suck, and thanks for the reminder to change passwords. The laptop was password-protected but I never even thought of that until now. There were no other devices, but I lost most of my dice and a couple CAll of Cthulhu books. (Not my set of favourite dice, thankfully!) Fortunately they didn't trash the car, or be thorough and steal a number of more personally valued items that were left vulnerable because I'd started pre-packing the car prior to the trip.

It's strange to say but the thieves around here don't always seem to be that motivated or malicious. A few years ago my folks' car got stolen. Like 90% of the time the car was recovered after it was abandoned on a street the Mountie I talked to heavily implied was essentially a "designated stolen car drop-off" zone. (The cops are not being entirely laissez-faire here; after all, they then had a returned car to scour for prints and DNA which wouldn't be the case if it was torched or "ditched" in a lake or river.)

Tony

In reply to Lakeisha 'Laney' Carmichael (msg # 173):

Where I live the Meth Heads will strip your shit clean and leave it up on blocks if you give them a couple hours.

I sometimes listen to the Kevin Smith podcast when he does the segment Scan B.C. it is hilarious listening to him read the reports of the crimes in British Columbia. They almost all seem to involve alcohol, a lot of nakedness and very little violence.  Our local news is all misery and horror with a couple of fluff pieces to buffer the insanity.

In reply to Lakeisha 'Laney' Carmichael (msg # 173):

Yeah, most people don't. You'd be surprised how much one hacked password can snowball into an avalanche of misery if the wrong person has a go at it.

Got some posts up......also please keep track of your ammo. If not you might find yourself firing an empty weapon.

Who else has any of the Savage Worlds" Rifts books/PDFs? I may have found a GM to run a game on RPOL using some of the modules or one-shots provided by the kick starter.

In reply to Darkside Trooper (msg # 177):

I got the hardback Savage Worlds and some .pdfs. For that matter I played "Zombie Run" at a con. For those familiar with Deadlands or Hell on Earth, SW is a streamlined and improved version of those rules.

Sorry! Pretty busy this week. On dayshift for once, with a lot of work dumped in my lap so I'm too busy to post from work. When I've been home I have been taking advantage of actually seeing my wife and daughter. But I'm happy to get a post up!

Tony

Been camping just getting back into cell tower range.  Once home and unpacked will have stuff up

Link to the game is here: link to another game

The intro to the game has the link to PEG's product page for Savage Rifts. For those with a Savage background, you'll find it uber powerful. For those with a Palaldium Rifts Background, you'll find it oddly limited, and yet freeing in ways.
This message was last edited by the player at 07:37, Tue 15 Aug 2017.

Hi everyone,

I'm just about to head into the woods for my family's annual summer camp. No internet, most likely, until weekend after next. (And if I do get to wi-fi I won't have access to my books.)

Tony

Just to give everyone a heads up, your all feel to post.

Okay, i'm... just not seeing this here:



Now, i know this isn't the first time i've blatantly missed the obvious, but here's what i'm reading here:

Enemies: Smart Zombie, Fat Zombies #1, #2 and #3

• Annabelle kills the smart (pointing) zombie.
• Eddie nicks the head of Fat Zombie #1
• Annabelle hits Fat Zombie #2 in the body
• Annabelle misses Fat Zombie #2
• Eddie kills Fat Zombie #1 ("the one he just hit")
• Eddie misses Fat Zombie #2
• More stuff happens

So... yeah. Fat Zombie #2 should have a single gunshot wound in the body from Annabelle, i'm just not seeing where it died. Unless the DudePCs got him on their turn, of course?

Not trying to start up an argument, just... trying to figure out what i've missed, since it looks like everyone's seeing it but me ^^;
This message was last edited by the player at 21:30, Wed 06 Sept 2017.

First of all nobody is about to get killed. That said if the dice are unfavorable to you would you prefer your character to have a quick death (i.e. Bullet to the head) or a slow death (i.e. Shot in the neck and will bleed out long before another character can stop the bleeding), or do you not care and would like to see what kind of death the GM can write out for you?

Mind you in the case of slow death you might (or might not) be able to post an action or two before your world goes black.

I'll leave it up to you, if it comes to it.

Its all the same to me. Dead is dead.

TAB will never die except of ripe old age, or if Arani doesn't make her skill checks if we ram the zombies we might get launched in which case we will probably die...ZOMBIE TAB ;P

Good evening?

In reply to Tiberus Asimov Blackiron (msg # 188):

Doin' alright!

My sit-down group took a night off. We watched Monster Squad (1087) and Omega Man (1971). The former is (as a friend put it) "like Goonies meets Lost Boys". The latter was an adaptation of the book I am Legend (like the movies Last Man on Earth and then the Will Smith vehicle I am Legend).

Omega Man swings for the fences in a way few modern survival horror/post-apocalypse films (although it would have been called a "post-holocaust" movie then) would. They managed to shoehorn commentary on a plethora of societal issues like (of course) WWIII, militarism, colonialism, an isolated white patriarchal ruling class under siege by a revolutionary dark horde, technology vs. quasi-religious new-age-ish luddism, the Manson Family and a media-driven cult of personality, hippie peaceniks, an interracial love scene with nudity (and one of the first onscreen interracial kisses!) between a "white saviour" unapologetically played by Charlton Heston and a Black Power-inspired Rosalind Cash. This wasn't some ironic indie feature made on the cheap but a serious sci-fi feature with name actors played straight, but not without some humour.

For the weapon affectionados among us note that this Neville uses a Browning Automatic Rifle mounted with a very early model infrared scope pulled from an M3 carbine (the latter can be seen in his armoury). "Tac-lights" weren't a thing at that time so in order to equip Neville's M76 SMG with a flashlight the prop department simply attached one with clamps to the barrel shroud.

Tony

A few months back I watched a Monster Squad and Teen Wolf double feature with my kids. Ah the 80's... afterwards I made sure they understood the word Fag is no longer part of our  vernacular.  I realized I was 10 when I watched Teenwolf at the movies and it is a terrible movie overall. Monster Squad holds up better but my kids were not nearly entertained as my 10yr old self was when Wolfman got kicked in the nards.

In reply to Robert E. Lee Jessup (msg # 190):

Good point, it wasn't great when the principal gets called a "homo" either. None of the kids last night were under 12 so it wasn't that scarring. Not everything about the good ol' days was good!

"Wolfman's got nards!" was of course my friends' favourite line. (Same with my wife, although she was also amused by the pronunciation of "virgin".) Scary German Guy was actually my favourite character [minor spoiler]:

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Spoiler text: (Highlight or hover over the text to view)

Scary German Guy: [as Sean, Patrick, and Horace are leaving Scary German Guy's house] I expect you boys thought I was some kind of monster myself, mm? A vampire, perhaps? That's quite all right. But I am not, you know. If I were a vampire, then I wouldn't have a reflection...

[points to mirror, where he is clearly visible]

Scary German Guy: ... now would I?

Horace: Man, you sure know a lot about monsters.

Scary German Guy: Now that you mention it, I suppose I do.

[Scary German Guy closes door, revealing a concentration camp tattoo on his wrist]

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Tony

Sorry I have not been well this past week. I will try and get something up this weekend.

Cymon.

I also will get a post in one of the appropriate threads

I got some posts up to get all the PC's together.

After tomorrow, I will probably not be able to post until next Sunday Jan 7th.

Made it back from the Cruise (no icebergs between Long Beach and Encinada

Will try to get the game going full swing this weekend.

Anyone have any real preference in the bags ? I think I would go with the one containing the rifles and SMG's.

Hi Guys, I am moving house tomorrow and won't have the internet installed until the 1st Feb or at lease that is what they have said, fingers crossed. I should be able to check in a couple of times. Thanks.

Cymon.

Thanks for the heads up.

So who might be interested in playing in a Rifts game where the majority of the characters are Mystic Knights? This would be a game where the players are the bad guys. The rating would be adult and I'd be using information from the Mystic Knight article found in Rifter #45. There will be 5-7 slots open for Mystic Knights, with each belonging to a specific House within the Order of the Mystic Knights. After that characters would be non-knight members from the seven houses.

What kind of bad guys are we talking about? Evil or the diet coke of evil?  Either way im down.

Well about the only thing you won't be able to do is the one big taboo here on RPOL (we all know what it is) and murdering each other since the last line of the Mystic Knight code states: Never betray your own. This doesn't mean there will not be infighting. But there are rules for when two Mystic Knights disagree on something. For example a simple dispute would be handled in hand to hand combat where neither opponent attempts to kill or maim each other. There is also of course a challenge/duel, which has its own special rules.

Oh and since each Mystic Knight will belong to a different 'House' I do expect some infighting. But the group is going to be sent on a mission to benefit the entire Order of the Mystic Knights, hence why each major house will be represented.

If I do run the game, I will be tweaking the Mystic Knight houses in Rifter #45 so there is more difference between each house and thus each character will be a bit different then the others. I also might create two more minor houses.

So the above mentioned game has been put together.....just look for your favorite (or least favorite) and see what games he has running.

Also RPOL wil be moving to a new server so there may be an interruption

Rifts: The Order of Mystic Knights
Mystic Knights are infamously known as one of the most hated and feared warriors on the North American continent of Rifts Earth. Many are unaware that the Mystic Knights have a hierarchy. Operating out the Magic Zone there are five Great Houses who control the Order, contracting services across the continent. There are also several Minor Houses that operate outside of the Magic Zone, but yet are formally recognized by the Five Great Houses. Then there are the freelance and banished Mystic Knight who wander the continent seeking employment and riches for themselves.

Player characters will be members of the Great and Minor Houses of the Order of Mystic Knights. Each House is supplying one Mystic Knight and one possibly non-Knight to a mission of utmost importance to the order.

This is an adult game due to the amount of graphic and gratuitous violence that is bound to occur when a group of 4-8 Mystic Knights are traveling across the North American Continent of Rifts Earth.

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I still have two open spots in my Mystic Knight game

Pretty full up on games, so i'm going to skip on that one. Played Rifts before and i like the setting, but it kind of defeats the purpose if i can't post in it ^^;

I understand.....but you would get to be a murderous bad guy!

In reply to Darkside Trooper (msg # 206):

I know, it's appealing... but when it comes to time investment, Rifts counts for two. Rolling for character sheets can take up to a couple of hours with a high Years of Service roll, and once you get to the murdering part five rolls per post is no exception, so... yeah.

'Sides, still need to officially return to your Robotech game as well. ^^;

Well I'm not doing years of service rolls, you roll for level and write out a backgorund to match.

Perception rolls can be used to recognize the bald dude.

Think of a similar scene in The Postman that Tom Petty was in.......

In reply to Darkside Trooper (msg # 209):

Ok! Let's give it a whirl.

13:49, Today: Lakeisha 'Laney' Carmichael rolled 10 using 1d20 with rolls of 10.  Perception.

Ehhh... not fantastic. Let's see if it's good enough.

Tony

I know it's been slow.......but this game has been around for 4 years.

Thats a good point. Still I want to get to one of those moral dilemma scenarios so Rob can really shine. :P

Hi,

It's that time of year, for my club's annual convention weekend! Hooray!

Tony

If you you can post at least once a week, but preferably several times a week...the below game started at the request of three of my other players here on RPOL.
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The game is set at the beginning of Robotech's Macross Saga, so even if you have no idea about Robotech this might be a good game to join.

Got back after a hectic but good time out east, will have something up tonight

I’m going to start a new thread for the ‘Recon’ mission or whatever you guys are calling my it.

When you post please be clear which vehicle your going to be in. I assume you guys are taking both vehicles.

Those of you looking for books and stuff on Hoover Dam should make some sort of skill roll. If you don't have an applicable skill a high perception roll might net you something.

I didn't find much info on hoover dam online for you guys.

I got some posts up. I figure I'll give everyone about a week to post. Those who don't post I guess will stay behind.

Greetings everyone. Just your average British tourist here, joining the zombocalypse.

Two limeys now huh? Welcome!

In reply to Basil Fawlty (msg # 219):

Welcome to the game!

Thanks,

Tony

In reply to Basil Fawlty (msg # 219):

Just curious if you have watched Fawlty Towers?

In reply to Joint (msg # 222):

+1

Joint: I have indeed. A couple of times too many !

In reply to Basil Fawlty (msg # 224):

A few episodes here and there. But my character has not so the reference would go completely over her head!

Tony

Sorry, bunch of RL stuff ended up avalaunching itself at me. I'll try to get caught up over the next day or two :/

In reply to Arani Vasingis (msg # 226):

No worries. I just need you to decide what vehicle to go in.

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Four characters decided to go in the 5 ton, and two characters are in the MRAP. The following characters haven't posted yet in either of the MRAP or 5 ton truck threads:

Arani Vasingis
Basil Fawlty
Jonathan Pembersley
Luke Salem

In reply to Darkside Trooper (msg # 227):

Sorry about that I am still undecided as to what JP would do given his wound... I think I will have him tag along in the APC but don't expect an feats of heroism on his part. Thanks.

btw Eddie is not a stunt man or driver that was my other character who decided to go to Alaska

Once you guys get your plan figured out I need to know exactly how close you planning on getting to Hoover Dam (the actual Dam itself) before dismounting.

In reply to Eddie Thomas (msg # 229):

Right, I think TAB more fills that role?

DST:

Did the female sharpshooter come with us? IF so, Laney would be looking at her.

Laney will suggest they move up to at least the Hoover Dam Lodge. We can see if the cultists have established an OP there, scavenge any diesel if possible from any rigs parked there. Finding some bikes would really be swell! That would be a good time to use the satphone to call our contact and advise them we're still alive and about to try for a rescue of their people.

From there we can drive on or hoof the last few miles on foot. I imagine the dam is louder than you'd think (I've been there but not for a looong time!) what with the water coming out the spillway and hydroelectric plant, enough to cover the sound of truck engines, but we can't be sure.

Thanks,

Tony

In reply to Lakeisha 'Laney' Carmichael (msg # 231):

Chick with the Sniper Rifle didn’t come. Basil could be considered in charge of the 3 NPC dudes.

If you know where the lodge is on the map feel free to note as such.

There are a pair of dirt bike strapped to the side of the MRAP.

Didn’t think about the water noise. But will keep it in mind. It probably won’t mask gunshots.

If you use the sat phone make sure you use Radio Basic.

In reply to Darkside Trooper (msg # 232):

Ok, Hoover Dam Lodge is marked as "Waypoint 1" on the map. Understood about the noise, I was hoping the water might mask vehicle engines but I guess we won't know until we get there!

https://www.google.com/maps/d/...40606917386&z=14

Laney scopes out the new guys to check out what they are armed with. I have also edited my post so that she's basically asking all the newcomers along.

Thanks,

Tony
This message was last edited by the player at 08:13, Fri 18 May 2018.

Just a heads up an unnamed NPC in my games is the equivalent of a red shirt from the original Star Trek.

This doesn’t mean they will for sure die, just that I won’t have any qualms in killing them or worse yet injure one so two of you have to drag them to safety.

In reply to Darkside Trooper (msg # 234):

That's fair, thanks!

Tony

As an FYI only the MRAP has a CB radio.

But you guys still have the hand held  walkie talkies.

In reply to Darkside Trooper (msg # 236):

The walkie-talkies can transmit on the CB frequencies. We had used a Motorola hand radio to communicate on Channel 9, the CB emergency channel, and assumed when we did radio checks we set everything (both Motorolas and the CB) to a shared channel. Obviously it's your call if that happened or not.

It's not too big of a deal as each vehicle should have a walkie-talkies. Worse comes to worse we can just talk out the window! But it's good to know now if something needs to be altered while we still have time to correct it.

Thanks,

Tony

In reply to Lakeisha 'Laney' Carmichael (msg # 237):

Ok make a radio basic roll to see if you get the CB radio on the same channel as the walkies.

Pass and then you guys got three radio devices.

In reply to Darkside Trooper (msg # 238):

00:56, Today: Lakeisha 'Laney' Carmichael rolled 74 using 1d100 with rolls of 74.  Radio Basic.

No problem. And she basically did the same thing the day before... it's just like riding a bike!

Thanks,

Tony

Been working my bag off this spring and summmer....every builder in town thinks it is a good time to put all there holes in the ground...will have something up tonight

In reply to Joint (msg # 240):

I second that emotion

Please let me know where your driving to next.

I got some posts up. You are "in combat".

Laney and Joint please post ASAP so the other players have an idea of how your driving and where your driving to.

After the driver in your thread has posted, please post ASAP. Do not wait on another character to post, as this will slow the game down.

wish we had some  greandes

In reply to Eddie Thomas (msg # 244):

Technically, we have 40mm grenades. They are in a black bag in the truck, along with a 6-shot grenade launcher. Probably can't hurt to load and fire it!

Tony

In reply to Darkside Trooper (msg # 243):
Will have something up tomorrow night

The GM is going to be some help and point out that you guys only have less then lethal ammo for the M-32 grenade launcher

In reply to Darkside Trooper (msg # 247):

Thanks for the reminder!

Looking at the available rounds it seems that the tear gas could be very useful if they don't have gas masks. (Remembering back, I think this is one reason I decided to go with the bag, even if we couldn't use the grenade launcher very well.) The M7A2 canisters don't even need a launcher, just pull the pin and throw.

If it's ok I'd like to change my post a bit to have Laney chuck a CS grenade in their direction. (-6 to strike while dodging.)

Thanks,

Tony

1) Your too far away, unless you drive right up to the police cars (which you are not).

2) If the bag is in the back of the cargo truck there is no way for you to get one of the grenades.

3) The M651 40×46mm CS gas grenades are not the pull the pin variety. They only work with the M-32, or the M-203 under the M-4 Rob got from one of the rapist dudes killed in the shed.

4) Rob and the .50 caliber machine gun are going to tear those guys up. Plus Joint is pulling up to the cop cars to let people out the back of the MRAP.

5) That nat 20 I rolled is not gonna bode well for those in the cab of the cargo truck. If one of the three players in the cab doesn't post I'll have fun killing someone.

Natural 20's are always fun one way or the other.

In reply to Darkside Trooper (msg # 249):

1) We don't need to throw the flash-bangs near the police cars, although that would be best. Laney intended to get it in front of the truck and therefore in the direct line of sight of the shooters.

2) Laney was the only PC who expressed interest in the contents of the bag. It therefore makes the most sense for it to be near her, if you think about it.

3) Laney was not using a 40mm grenade. She grabbed an M84 Stun Grenade, which looks like it is clearly thrown:



The M7A3 CS canisters are also hand-thrown.

4) Good point, that obviously seems like the best plan!

5) Nat 20s are gonna Nat 20! I don't want to meta-game the implications of this too much, if you know what I mean.

I'll have her get one of the flash-bangs and/or CS grenades this turn, if you agree the bag is in the cab. If Laney survives until then she can maybe throw it next turn.

Thanks,

Tony

In reply to Lakeisha 'Laney' Carmichael (msg # 251):

Going to say no to modding your post since it isn't going to change anything and will just be a waste of a flash bang.

With three people in the cab, adding the bag will make it a tight fit. For now it is in the back of the truck. Don't worry you guys will have a minute or two after this if you decide to assault the 'base'.

In reply to Darkside Trooper (msg # 252):

Groovy!

Thanks,

Tony

OK it took me some time to get my posts up. I had to really think of how I was going to 'word' a certain section.

EDIT: You guys still have a good chance at capturing Hoover Dam. Remember the Air Force Major said there were like 20 guys there. You probably killed 4 at the gun range and a 5th guy was at the gun range itself and killed by the people you rescued. You just killed 5 more guys and a 6th is running away.
This message was last edited by the GM at 02:18, Sun 22 July 2018.

I can't see the MRAP thread?....or am I blind

My fault, I forgot to add you to the group. You shoudl be able to see it now.

So as an FYI I did head shot kill a PC with a nat 20. Even if the bullet had gone through an arm or leg (16HP & 16SDC) the character would have lost a limb or spend months recovering a broken bone. If they had been a torso hit the character would probably bleed out before getting to the surgical table at the 3 mansions safe haven. The other PCs would have had 3 skill rolls (one medical skill roll per minute) to stop the bleeding on an entrance and exit wound. Once the PC dropped into a ‘coma’ they would have 19 minutes (not enough time to drive back to the doctor) before being dead for good.

So in discussion with the player (they can chime in) it was decided to make death quick. The player is going to use a back up NPC for now and might make a whole new character.

Murderer!

Says the guy who was the GM when my PC ordered another PC to be executed for disobeying an order (IIRC stepping out of formation to help some mutant monkey pick up his research paper work) and a GM NPC blew the PCs head off 20 in character posts into the game.

Oh and then another GMNPC blew the mutant monkeys brains out with a .45

Of course it did settle the issue as to if the base line human (non-psychic, non-bionic, non-mutant) commanding officer’s orders should be obeyed.

In reply to Robert E. Lee Jessup (msg # 258):

It could be karmic justice.

I just wrapped up a Cthulhu Now adventure for my sit-down group. ("The Killer From Space", set in 1986.) In the final session I smoked a PC for touching something they shouldn't have (no save) and then killing another for blowing a DEX check. It was only through dumb luck the party avoided a TPK because hey, that's Call of Cthulhu for you! (My wife says, "word to the wise, don't kill off your spouse's character. Just, like, don't." A maxim I learned the hard way to live by.)

Thanks,

Tony

Im just pissy im not on that thread to read it. ;p

sorry for the late post was figuring out what to do

Got a post up. I kinda wanted to keep things rolling so those who didn't post (Arani, & TAB) were just dazed the previous round.

In reply to Darkside Trooper (msg # 263):

As a note, I am leaving tomorrow on my annual family summer camp vacation. See you a week Friday! Or so.

I would say it'll be fun in the sun by the lake, but there's waaay too much smoke right now. We'll be lucky to see the sun at all.

Thanks,

Tony

You camping in Alberta or BC?

In reply to Joint (msg # 265):

BC, where I live. Definitely no campfires allowed this year!

Tony

In reply to Ishmael 'Izzy' Morris (msg # 266):

LOL, yeah no doubt, we are heading out this weekend also for camping in Alberta.  Weather report says I we are gonna get rain where we are heading.

In reply to Joint (msg # 267):

Ha ha, we do have rain forecast (for the Kamloops area) a week from today, the last day of camp.

Tony

In reply to Ishmael 'Izzy' Morris (msg # 268):

Hi! Camp was fun! It was very smoky at first. Like, 1 kilometre visibility or so. My daughter (who's 3) kept asking why there were clouds in the trees... I told her it was foggy. But there were no fires in our area. Plus we were next to a lake, which could have helped! It rained a few days in, which helped, then it was sunny with periods of rain. I ran a Classic Traveller adventure for a few people ("Chamax Plague").

Anyone seen the movie Meatballs? This camp was a very small version of that. Plus we have a couple people there that actually met while campers at the real-life location where Meatballs was filmed, camp White Pines in Ontario. We watched the movie one night, very trippy!

Tony

I’m currently out of town and won’t be able to make a substantial post unti Wensday or Thursday.

Also I think we lost Arani’s player...

Well, no time like the present.

Sorry about disappearing all, had some computer issues that got solved a couple weeks back. Long story short, one of my computer fans died, which led to the chronic overheating of my computer, up to and including forced CPU shutdowns.

Anyway, fan's been replaced, most of the backlog's been cleared and, surprisingly, i haven't been kicked yet, so i should be slipping a post in before DT does :)

Just a heads up I am waiting for everyone else to post before posting.

Yes there is a doctor at the compound, character used to be a PC.

There are NPCs who can drive the five ton back BTW.

so anyone staying to fight goes to the mrap and those going are getting in the 5 ton?

I guess.....

Made sense to Joint, but there is obviously room for differences.

Are any PC's staying with the 5 ton?

There are up three NPC's (2 no-names, and Basil) who can go back with the 5 ton.

So based on posting.....

I have the following characters with the MRAP and 'assaulting' the cultists
Jonathan
Ishmael
Joint
Rob
Eddie
TAB

I have the following characters taking the 5-ton back to the mansion compound
Arani
Annebelle
Laney (unconscious)

In reply to Darkside Trooper (msg # 278):

I am happy to place Annabelle in either, though I am sure she is probably better with the assault group.

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C’mon over and take one for the team!

Character quote of the week.....

lol...yep

Hmm... Kind of on the fence on whether i should return to the compound or not. Arani would be of help, but she's running very low on ammo (8 shots on the Taurus) and the Beretta's the one she grabbed from Laney.

It'd depend on whether the truck has enough people to arguably survive the trip back if they'd run into any danger along the way.

It might get boring if you go back with the 5 ton.....if enough people go back I’ll make sure it isn’t boring.

There are a few rifles and I think pistols that have been recovered from dead bodies.

You can also take Laney’s ammo, just PM what you take. Same thing applies to any other gear she has that somebody wants to take. Yes this is cold taking her but at least she isn’t dead....

I think i already added the Beretta, so i'm good in terms of what i'm taking. No sense in having Laney wake up to find herself strip-searched for valuables by her own team. :P

Well Laney is out cold. It would suck if the reason you died is because you ran out of bullets which were available on Laney’s unconsciousness body.

Eh, i'll get the rest off of dead people.

How much did we loot off of the group that attacked us again?

In reply to Darkside Trooper (msg # 286):

I don't mind. Ha ha, Laney sure isn't going to need weapons or ammo at the moment!

Besides, Ace is there and (hopefully) her buddy will make sure any appropriation of needed materials stops at the "measuring her boots" point. If not, well, "shit happens when you party naked", as the bikers say. (Note to self: do not party naked.)

I posted Izzy policing up weapons at the site, I'm not sure what of value was found.

Thanks,

Tony

Just an FYI

Rob and Izzy both have silenced firearms.

TAB also picked up a silenced M-4 as well.

In reply to Darkside Trooper (msg # 289):

Any luck in figuring out how to operate the grenade launcher?

Thanks,

Tony

Point and pull the trigger?

Maybe somebody with the basic mechanics skill could figure out the operation of it.

Of course based on occupation I’d let some characters be able to figure it out on the basis that thier occupation probably gave them some fam fire time with a grenade launcher.

In reply to Darkside Trooper (msg # 291):

Hah. Izzy is not as mechanically inclined as Laney!

I'll have Izzy ask in character if anyone has any ideas on how to work the thing other than just point-and-shoot. AS well, how to reload it!

Thanks,

Tony

If somebody tries to chamber a round in that GL without somsirt of skill roll, bad things are gonna happen.

I’d just wait to see if another PC can help Izzy. I don’t think you guys want tear gas all over the inside of the MRAP

In reply to Darkside Trooper (msg # 293):

I hope Eddie made his skill check! Either way, Izzy isn't going to chance it.

By the way, I was trying to look at the map for the purpose of posting but I can't see the equipment thread that it's in.

Thanks,

Tony

In reply to Ishmael 'Izzy' Morris (msg # 294):

Thread fixed you should be able to see it now.

what weapons does everyone have and whose going to use the grenade launcher?

In reply to Eddie Thomas (msg # 296):

Izzy has a suppressed UMP.

We could (and maybe should) work out who is using the GL in-character.

Tony

In reply to Darkside Trooper (msg # 295):

Regarding gear, I realised Izzy doesn't need a gas mask. He already had one as part of his SWAT kit.

Thanks,

Tony

Even though I already know the out come of the player vs player altercation I’d like to have everyone make one post in reaction to it.

If you have already posted your good.

so i can post correctly plan is for Eddie to put a tear gas canister up ahead as we move

Just to be clear if you post launching a tear gas round make sure you clearly state your shooting and make a strike roll.

If your just going to Ready to shoot don’t make a strike roll.

I’m confused. Is there no more road? If we have come as far as the MRAP can go then why stay with it at all? I thought the MRAP was part of a two pronged attack along with the flanking ground team.

In reply to Robert E. Lee Jessup (msg # 302):

Let me see if I have this right:

There is a wide road that goes right up to the main building, where there is a turn-around, and continues past along the top of the dam. There is a cliff on the left, and a gorge on the right. A 4-story parkade is off to the left, dug out of the cliffside.

We turned off into the parkade, and then parked on the upper level where it has a good field of fire.

The dismounts are heading down some side access stairs and will proceed on foot keeping to the left cliff wall. Our point of entry is not the main entrance but a side tourist entrance off to the left and down a bank of escalators.

When we signal by radio or flashlight the MRAP can move up on the access road to the main building to either extract them once they locate the hostages or to bail them out.

Also: how is the lighting? I would imagine it's very well-lit. And a little noisy if the dam spillway is in operation and the hydroelectric generators are going.

Tony
This message was last edited by the player at 20:40, Wed 20 Mar 2019.

The MRAP is currently on the top level of the 3 (or 4) level parking garage and has a (mostly) clean line of fire at the entrance.

In reply to Darkside Trooper (msg # 304):

Pardon me for asking but what about ambient lighting and sound?

Thanks!

Tony

If it was pitch black I would have stated as such in a previous post. So you can can safely assume there are some lights on. You guys are right next to a parking lot after all.

Didn’t think about the noise from the dam water, but that makes sense to be present.

In reply to Darkside Trooper (msg # 306):

Thanks!

Tony

I am going to be on holiday for a week from tomorrow and unlikely to have any internet access. I will try to look in if I am able. Cheer's.

Hope you have a great holiday!