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OOC Discussion 8.

Posted by GM ArkrimFor group 0
GM Arkrim
GM, 6333 posts
Game Master
Tue 19 Dec 2017
at 14:53
  • msg #1

OOC Discussion 8

New OOC thread!
Latro Dectus
Antipaladin 2,564, 1396 posts
Drow N. Antipaladin
Shadow's Caress
Tue 19 Dec 2017
at 15:25
  • msg #2

OOC Discussion 8

First! Cause that really matters after all this time
This message was last edited by the player at 15:25, Tue 19 Dec 2017.
Brakt
Fighter 2,145, 524 posts
Ogre Fighter
SotVD
Wed 20 Dec 2017
at 00:25
  • msg #3

OOC Discussion 8

Just because your trigger happy doesn't mean you're going to win Latro. :O
GM Arkrim
GM, 6340 posts
Game Master
Wed 20 Dec 2017
at 01:40
  • msg #6

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Hiro:
WHO DARES AWAKEN THE SLEEPING DRAGON???


Welcome back, Hiro! Good to have the first champion of this arena back in action. And at such a time as this!


Josep Gavinho
Sorcerer 1,687, 1138 posts
Human Wizard
TA - 1,537 BP
Wed 20 Dec 2017
at 10:27
  • msg #7

OOC Discussion 8

Welcome back Hiro!
Looking forward to burning you to a crisp.
Or to be reduced to a pulp under your sandal ;)
Vry
Sorcerer 1,743, 302 posts
Advanced Gnome
Shadow's Caress
Wed 20 Dec 2017
at 10:40
  • msg #8

OOC Discussion 8

Haha, the competition is getting worse here in the arena! :D
Latro Dectus
Antipaladin 2,564, 1403 posts
Drow N. Antipaladin
Shadow's Caress
Wed 20 Dec 2017
at 14:36
  • msg #9

OOC Discussion 8

So after reviewing the Leadership feet, i've discovered i can get a Nightmare as a cohort.

Like.

How badass would that freaking be?
Vry
Sorcerer 1,743, 303 posts
Advanced Gnome
Shadow's Caress
Wed 20 Dec 2017
at 14:44
  • msg #10

OOC Discussion 8

Poor Tiaca would be replaced!
Latro Dectus
Antipaladin 2,564, 1404 posts
Drow N. Antipaladin
Shadow's Caress
Wed 20 Dec 2017
at 15:26
  • msg #11

OOC Discussion 8

WITH A FREAKING SHADOW HORSE!!!!!
But yes, poor tiaca would be replaced with a horse that could take levels in the same class Tiaca was.
Boadicea
Barbarian 1,752, 860 posts
Advanced Human Barbarian
Thu 21 Dec 2017
at 05:41
  • msg #12

OOC Discussion 8

Interesting who is the secret guest?
This message was last edited by the player at 05:46, Thu 21 Dec 2017.
GM Arkrim
GM, 6341 posts
Game Master
Thu 21 Dec 2017
at 05:52
  • msg #13

OOC Discussion 8

Okay, change of plans.



!!GUILD MASTERS!!!

Please discuss the next championship among your guild members.

Each guild will need to select ONE arena veteran among its members to compete in the championship (no hero point cost). The guild master may choose themselves to compete (this includes Latro and Josep as options).

In addition, freelancers will be offered the opportunity to join (first come first serve).

However, we need a freelancer veteran to volunteer to referee this match so we need two freelancers to step forward.

Freelancer Veterans:
Haran Madar
Tinny Tina
Bruhli
Boadicea (as soon as she finishes her current duel)




So, who is it going to be?
This message was last edited by the GM at 06:13, Thu 21 Dec 2017.
Tinny Tina
Alchemist 1,721, 689 posts
Wyrwood Alchemist
SotVD
Thu 21 Dec 2017
at 06:05
  • msg #14

OOC Discussion 8

uhh I thought I was in the School of the Voiceless Dragon, was my last two years of membership a mistake?
Boadicea
Barbarian 1,752, 861 posts
Advanced Human Barbarian
Thu 21 Dec 2017
at 06:11
  • msg #15

OOC Discussion 8

As much as I would love to tangle for the belt I think at this time I am not competition for the masters that are out there.  I step forward and volunteer to referee.
This message was last edited by the player at 06:12, Thu 21 Dec 2017.
GM Arkrim
GM, 6342 posts
Game Master
Thu 21 Dec 2017
at 06:14
  • msg #16

OOC Discussion 8

In reply to Tinny Tina (msg # 14):

Post corrected. Looks like your status was never updated on the leaderboard.

Tiny Tina was so small she slipped through the cracks. :P
Vry
Sorcerer 1,743, 306 posts
Advanced Gnome
Shadow's Caress
Thu 21 Dec 2017
at 06:15
  • msg #17

OOC Discussion 8

With my two games played, I am a loooong way from that battle royale... :) so, does anyone want to duel in a couple of days? Brakt?
Latro Dectus
Antipaladin 2,564, 1406 posts
Drow N. Antipaladin
Shadow's Caress
Thu 21 Dec 2017
at 06:25
  • msg #18

OOC Discussion 8

In reply to Boadicea (msg # 15):

That's going to be an insane amount of BP for you as ref.

As Shadow's Caress is still relatively small, the only veterans of the guild are myself, Ugrim, and Madam Opal. So Latro will nominate himself to enter the arena once more to claim the title of champion
Boadicea
Barbarian 1,752, 862 posts
Advanced Human Barbarian
Thu 21 Dec 2017
at 06:47
  • msg #19

OOC Discussion 8

In reply to Latro Dectus (msg # 18):

Image if you are the winner
Vry
Sorcerer 1,743, 308 posts
Advanced Gnome
Shadow's Caress
Thu 21 Dec 2017
at 07:29
  • msg #20

OOC Discussion 8

I could duel Lyn or Grunyar or anyone else interested that won’t fight for the belt, too :)
Latro Dectus
Antipaladin 2,564, 1407 posts
Drow N. Antipaladin
Shadow's Caress
Thu 21 Dec 2017
at 08:33
  • msg #21

OOC Discussion 8

In reply to Boadicea (msg # 19):

Even if i loose that's still an incredible amount of BP.
...
...
...
I don't plan on loosing though.

Geeze, i need to get to updating my character sheet for this. Factoring in the BP i get for reffing Boadicea vs Brakt, i think I'll have well over 1'000 shiny unspent BP since exiting the championship with Josep.
This message was last edited by the player at 08:37, Thu 21 Dec 2017.
Vry
Sorcerer 1,743, 309 posts
Advanced Gnome
Shadow's Caress
Thu 21 Dec 2017
at 08:36
  • msg #22

OOC Discussion 8

The belt will finally end up in the one guild where it belongs!
Josep Gavinho
Sorcerer 1,687, 1139 posts
Human Wizard
TA - 1,537 BP
Thu 21 Dec 2017
at 11:01
  • msg #23

OOC Discussion 8

Interesting development.

I’ve hired a Clerk of Law with a background in RPG to check over each of my posts.

It goes without saying, Josep will represent the TA.
Vry
Sorcerer 1,743, 310 posts
Advanced Gnome
Shadow's Caress
Thu 21 Dec 2017
at 11:03
  • msg #24

OOC Discussion 8

In reply to Josep Gavinho (msg # 23):

I know a good Asmodean cleric I could refer you to, in case you need a second opinion :P
Ankou
Inquisitor 906, 404 posts
Dwarf Inquisitor
Thaumaturgical Alliance
Thu 21 Dec 2017
at 14:06
  • msg #25

OOC Discussion 8

Also I’ve decided to resume Ankou’s career.
Ready to fight and/or ref, as needed.
Vry
Sorcerer 1,743, 314 posts
Advanced Gnome
Shadow's Caress
Thu 21 Dec 2017
at 14:06
  • msg #26

OOC Discussion 8

Out of interest: Arkrim, is there a possibility of in the future having more books than the core rulebook allowed as sources for prestige classes? I.e. not allowing all, but the prestige classes from advanced player's guide & paths of prestige, or so? (Without knowing this stuff very well, it is my impression that those two books are rather robust and balanced ^_^)
Vry
Sorcerer 1,743, 315 posts
Advanced Gnome
Shadow's Caress
Thu 21 Dec 2017
at 14:09
  • msg #27

OOC Discussion 8

In reply to Ankou (msg # 25):

Team up with Lyn and possibly someone else for a juggernaut vs me :)
Ankou
Inquisitor 906, 405 posts
Dwarf Inquisitor
Thaumaturgical Alliance
Thu 21 Dec 2017
at 14:47
  • msg #28

OOC Discussion 8

Sounds good!
Lyn?
Vry
Sorcerer 1,743, 319 posts
Advanced Gnome
Shadow's Caress
Thu 21 Dec 2017
at 15:11
  • msg #29

OOC Discussion 8

My new build was almost complete when I found out my prestige class isn’t allowed, so I gotta do a little bit of rebuilding before I’m ready to go. Should be ready in a day or so. And once I’m out of my last duel.
Ankou
Inquisitor 906, 406 posts
Dwarf Inquisitor
Thaumaturgical Alliance
Thu 21 Dec 2017
at 15:25
  • msg #30

OOC Discussion 8

Ankou has been on the shelf for a long long time, so a bit of rebuilding is definitely needed.
Maelstrom
Monk 1,056, 369 posts
Human Monk
SotVD
Thu 21 Dec 2017
at 18:16
  • msg #31

OOC Discussion 8

Welcome back Master Hiro!!!

Maelstrom wants to fight too! Mind if I join your juggernaut or something?
GM Arkrim
GM, 6346 posts
Game Master
Thu 21 Dec 2017
at 18:26
  • msg #34

OOC Discussion 8

In reply to Vry (msg # 26):

Yes. Banned stuff can be allowed on a case-by-case basis, but no one has ever requested a prestige class before. Funny that you mention that. Someone was telling me the other day that they didn't know what the difference between "base class" and "prestige class" and I just recently clarified that on the site.

PM me what you're thinking.

And if anyone else is looking into new classes, let me know.
This message was last edited by the GM at 18:26, Thu 21 Dec 2017.
Lyn
Magus 741, 34 posts
Elf Magus
Fri 22 Dec 2017
at 05:49
  • msg #35

OOC Discussion 8

I mean...  I don't have a reason why not. I need to spend some BP, but that shouldn't take too long.
This message was last edited by the player at 06:04, Sun 24 Dec 2017.
Grunyar Fangblood
Summoner 2,255, 700 posts
Skinwalker Summoner
Fri 22 Dec 2017
at 05:53
  • msg #36

OOC Discussion 8

In reply to Lyn (msg # 35):

I do believe to be part of the Voiceless Dragon you may not cast any spells.  Seeing as Tina is still a member that may not be true anymore, she may be an exception.
Vry
Sorcerer 2,317, 322 posts
Advanced Gnome
Shadow's Caress
Fri 22 Dec 2017
at 06:11
  • msg #37

OOC Discussion 8

So Mael, Ankou and Lyn vs me then! Sounds perfect, and somewhat scary :) I’ll adjust my build a bit, and post a suggestion for the challenge. Want any prep, no flying/invis or such?
Grunyar Fangblood
Summoner 2,255, 701 posts
Skinwalker Summoner
Fri 22 Dec 2017
at 06:29
  • msg #38

OOC Discussion 8

As Latro will be held up with the belt match I am still free for referee if you need
Vry
Sorcerer 2,317, 323 posts
Advanced Gnome
Shadow's Caress
Fri 22 Dec 2017
at 06:45
  • msg #39

OOC Discussion 8

In reply to Grunyar Fangblood (msg # 38):

That would be great for our game :)
Latro Dectus
Antipaladin 2,564, 1416 posts
Drow N. Antipaladin
Shadow's Caress
Fri 22 Dec 2017
at 07:04
  • msg #40

OOC Discussion 8

In reply to Grunyar Fangblood (msg # 38):

I couldn't ref that match anyways. :P
Vry is my underling. I might show faver towards them.
Grunyar Fangblood
Summoner 2,255, 702 posts
Skinwalker Summoner
Fri 22 Dec 2017
at 07:13
  • msg #41

OOC Discussion 8

In reply to Latro Dectus (msg # 40):

Lol you and I still have a duel to complete :)
Latro Dectus
Antipaladin 2,564, 1417 posts
Drow N. Antipaladin
Shadow's Caress
Fri 22 Dec 2017
at 07:18
  • msg #42

OOC Discussion 8

In reply to Grunyar Fangblood (msg # 41):

indeed we do. Let me close out Brakt and Bo's battle and we can go forwards with that.
I could always use an even higher BP advantage. :P
This message was last edited by the player at 07:21, Fri 22 Dec 2017.
Brakt
Fighter 2,145, 531 posts
Ogre Fighter
SotVD
Fri 22 Dec 2017
at 09:26
  • msg #43

OOC Discussion 8

No.

You really don't need more BP.

Me on the other hand... :D

Is the Championship starting on/around the 1st, or will we have a bit more time? Asking for a friend, you know ;)
GM Arkrim
GM, 6348 posts
Game Master
Fri 22 Dec 2017
at 14:34
  • msg #44

OOC Discussion 8

Championship is currently waiting on the SCHOOL OF THE VOICELESS DRAGON to choose it's competitor.

Also on a freelancer, but we'll get started without one if nobody steps forward.
Maelstrom
Monk 1,056, 371 posts
Human Monk
SotVD
Fri 22 Dec 2017
at 18:33
  • msg #45

OOC Discussion 8

In reply to Vry (msg # 37):

This should be exciting! Give me a couple of days to update my character. Looks like there are some bp cost changes since last time. I would say one prep round.
Josep Gavinho
Sorcerer 1,687, 1142 posts
Human Wizard
TA - 1,687 BP
Fri 22 Dec 2017
at 19:20
  • msg #46

OOC Discussion 8

I’m always down for more prep rounds if you all are keen!

I’m keeping Josep from entering fights until the 1st, so this better start the very moment Tokyo enters 2018 ;)
Somatra
Slayer 94, 1 post
Fetchling Slayer
Fri 22 Dec 2017
at 22:34
  • msg #47

OOC Discussion 8

Newbie here.  I wanted to see if anyone wanted to join in on a Monster Hunt.  I figured with several people we could find something unusual in the monster manual and make it interesting.
Latro Dectus
Antipaladin 3,051, 1419 posts
Drow N. Antipaladin
Shadow's Caress
Sat 23 Dec 2017
at 06:30
  • msg #48

OOC Discussion 8

In reply to Brakt (msg # 43):

Brakt you're more than welcome to ref the match between Grunyar and I. Theres much BP to be gained for it. ;P
GM Arkrim
GM, 6349 posts
Game Master
Sat 23 Dec 2017
at 07:06
  • msg #49

OOC Discussion 8

Hey folks, for future reference, if someone's primary class (the class they have the most levels in) doesn't match their Tag, that is a violation.

Make sure you're sticking to the class you chose or resetting your character if you want to change your primary class.

If you're dual classing (perfectly half and half with two classes) we can mixmatch a name for you (ex. Monk/Barbarian = Monkbarian, Brawler/Barbarian = Brawlbarian, Oracle/Paladin = Oracladin, etc.)
Brakt
Brawler 2,729, 532 posts
Ogre Fighter
SotVD
Sat 23 Dec 2017
at 07:21
  • msg #50

OOC Discussion 8

All right, noted for future reference.

If we wanted to change our race, would that be a full reset as well?
Vry
Sorcerer 2,317, 324 posts
Advanced Gnome
Shadow's Caress
Sat 23 Dec 2017
at 07:49
  • msg #51

OOC Discussion 8

In reply to GM Arkrim (msg # 49):

Alright, good to know! But, does that mean that I have to reset to go deep into a prestige class? I mean, being based on sorcerer I could make a 4 Sorc/ 3 Rogue / 10 Arcane Trickster build, or 2 Sorcerer / 3 fighter / 10 dragon disciple. Personally I’d still consider sorcerer the primary class everything else is building on... but to do that, or to do sorcerer 5 / fighter 5 I would need to reset?
Vry
Sorcerer 2,317, 325 posts
Advanced Gnome
Shadow's Caress
Sat 23 Dec 2017
at 07:53
  • msg #52

OOC Discussion 8

In reply to Somatra (msg # 47):

I don’t see many monster hunts around here... We have a juggernaut battle starting soon, but we’re 4 and I think that is max for any fight. Otherwise that would be perfect to start off with :)
Latro Dectus
Antipaladin 3,051, 1420 posts
Drow N. Antipaladin
Shadow's Caress
Sat 23 Dec 2017
at 08:17
  • msg #53

OOC Discussion 8

In reply to GM Arkrim (msg # 49):

But what of the fabled Bardbarian?

But, legitimate question for the GM
Seeing as the level cap is now 30, what should we do if we get a base class to lvl 20?
Are we forced to start multiclassing and loose our favored class bonuses or do we have the option to use the not exactly official paizo suggested ways of advancing base classes past lvl 20?
I know how much you hate multiclassing and even duel classing to an extent so how do we avoid the penalties of doing so when there are no real official paizo rules for epic leveled base classes?

asking for a friend.
This message was last edited by the player at 08:55, Sat 23 Dec 2017.
Brakt
Brawler 2,729, 533 posts
Ogre Fighter
SotVD
Sat 23 Dec 2017
at 09:49
  • msg #54

OOC Discussion 8

I could ref that sure.
Vry
Sorcerer 2,317, 326 posts
Advanced Gnome
Shadow's Caress
Sat 23 Dec 2017
at 10:01
  • msg #55

OOC Discussion 8

In reply to Latro Dectus (msg # 53):

I think levels 21-30 are there to enable mythic tiers + base class levels only... And I guess if one does make it up to 17,500BP + however much they spend on items, race etc; they better be a veteran so they can use the mythic tiers... But it would require some badly timed resetting to not be a veteran at that point :)
Latro Dectus
Antipaladin 3,051, 1421 posts
Drow N. Antipaladin
Shadow's Caress
Sat 23 Dec 2017
at 10:22
  • msg #56

OOC Discussion 8

In reply to Vry (msg # 55):

The problem with mythic tiers is that unless both you and your opponent have 25,000 bp, you have to specifically request to use mythic tiers in battle. and even then, if your opponent doesn't have mythic tiers and you do, then the match cant move forwards because mythic vs non-mythic is not allowed under any circumstances.

and while mythic tiers are great, they are, as josep has pointed out in the past, grossly overpowered and i dont know how many people will actually go for that.
now granted i can always keep two separate iterations of latro around for when i want to go lvl 20 antipaladin mythic vs lvl 20+ antipaladin multiclassed but that's a lot of work.
And i switch my sheet around to fight whoever i'm facing in the first place.

Perhaps once players have accumulated more than 25,000 BP, it should just be understood that if you go up against someone like that, you run the risk of fighting someone with a mythic tier or two at their disposal and the whole mythic vs non-mythic thing can be over looked, but only for that.
Latro Dectus
Antipaladin 3,051, 1422 posts
Drow N. Antipaladin
Shadow's Caress
Sat 23 Dec 2017
at 10:23
  • msg #57

OOC Discussion 8

As a side note, i've always wanted to do a juggernaut match where the juggernaut was mythic and the challengers were not.
Vry
Sorcerer 2,317, 327 posts
Advanced Gnome
Shadow's Caress
Sat 23 Dec 2017
at 10:47
  • msg #58

OOC Discussion 8

Yeah, the mythic juggernaut can't happen by these rules, which is a bit sad. Probably a good balance call, but as a naïve player I'm more interested in cool fights than mechanical balance, so I don't take that perspective :D

Have there actually been any fights with mythic tiers here?
Latro Dectus
Antipaladin 3,051, 1423 posts
Drow N. Antipaladin
Shadow's Caress
Sat 23 Dec 2017
at 10:48
  • msg #59

OOC Discussion 8

Not yet.
I personally would love to have one. But alas, not many takers.
Vry
Sorcerer 2,317, 328 posts
Advanced Gnome
Shadow's Caress
Sat 23 Dec 2017
at 11:15
  • msg #60

OOC Discussion 8

I think there would be an even greater risk that the first hit would be the killing one :) Surge to ensure hit, extra actions and stronger spells with mythic power...
Latro Dectus
Antipaladin 3,051, 1424 posts
Drow N. Antipaladin
Shadow's Caress
Sat 23 Dec 2017
at 11:46
  • msg #61

OOC Discussion 8

I mean, Ugrim already basically one-shots on turn 1 most of the time anyways so idk what the big deal is. :P
Vry
Sorcerer 2,317, 329 posts
Advanced Gnome
Shadow's Caress
Sat 23 Dec 2017
at 11:58
  • msg #62

OOC Discussion 8

Yup, and we've seen the same from Brakt and Josep and probably more people :P As long as mythic powers don't offset the chance of protecting against one-turn-wins, it shouldn't be a problem!
GM Arkrim
GM, 6350 posts
Game Master
Sat 23 Dec 2017
at 15:28
  • msg #63

Re: OOC Discussion 8

Vry:
Alright, good to know! But, does that mean that I have to reset to go deep into a prestige class? I mean, being based on sorcerer I could make a 4 Sorc/ 3 Rogue / 10 Arcane Trickster build, or 2 Sorcerer / 3 fighter / 10 dragon disciple. Personally I’d still consider sorcerer the primary class everything else is building on... but to do that, or to do sorcerer 5 / fighter 5 I would need to reset?

Yep. Just make sure the primary class and race doesn't change. You can switch up being "advanced" race or not, but not change the actual race. You do not have to reset the leaderboard or name, just the thing that's changing. Resets give you the OPTION to reset name and leaderboard but you don't have to. So if you are Sorcerer 4/Rogue 3/Trickster 4 and want to go +1 Trickster, PM the GM and they'll change you from Sorcerogue to Arcane Trickster. No biggie. And if the GM is busy just let your opponent know in the mean time.

Latro Dectus:
In reply to GM Arkrim (msg # 49):
But what of the fabled Bardbarian?
But, legitimate question for the GM
Seeing as the level cap is now 30, what should we do if we get a base class to lvl 20?
Are we forced to start multiclassing and loose our favored class bonuses or do we have the option to use the not exactly official paizo suggested ways of advancing base classes past lvl 20?
I know how much you hate multiclassing and even duel classing to an extent so how do we avoid the penalties of doing so when there are no real official paizo rules for epic leveled base classes?
asking for a friend.

Skald = bardbarian
Level 21-30 = mythic ranks

Vry:
I think there would be an even greater risk that the first hit would be the killing one :) Surge to ensure hit, extra actions and stronger spells with mythic power...

Mythic defenses, traps, superior planning
Vry
Sorcerer 2,317, 330 posts
Advanced Gnome
Shadow's Caress
Sat 23 Dec 2017
at 16:00
  • msg #64

Re: OOC Discussion 8

In reply to GM Arkrim (msg # 63):

Alrighty, thanks!
As for mythic - sure, I don't doubt it's possible! I hope to see some mythic fights in the future :)
Vry
Sorcerer 2,317, 331 posts
Advanced Gnome
Shadow's Caress
Sat 23 Dec 2017
at 16:38
  • msg #65

Re: OOC Discussion 8

Merry christmas / other holiday, all!
Except in case the Saints don't beat the dirty birds, if they don't I will retract my statement and there will be nothing merry about this christmas >_>
GM Arkrim
GM, 6351 posts
Game Master
Sat 23 Dec 2017
at 18:06
  • msg #66

Re: OOC Discussion 8

You veteran freelancers know there's a FREE opportunity to get in on the battle royal championship right?

Just saying...
Boadicea
Barbarian 2,109, 865 posts
Advanced Human Barbarian
Sat 23 Dec 2017
at 18:12
  • msg #67

Re: OOC Discussion 8

If Hiro does not show and no freelance voluntees could give Brakt and Tina a spot
GM Arkrim
GM, 6353 posts
Game Master
Sat 23 Dec 2017
at 19:18
  • msg #68

Re: OOC Discussion 8

Both are part of the SOTVD and not freelancers. Only one of them could take the guild slot.
Latro Dectus
Antipaladin 3,051, 1425 posts
Drow N. Antipaladin
Shadow's Caress
Sat 23 Dec 2017
at 21:10
  • msg #69

Re: OOC Discussion 8

In reply to GM Arkrim (msg # 63):

cool beans!
Latro Dectus
Antipaladin 3,051, 1426 posts
Drow N. Antipaladin
Shadow's Caress
Sat 23 Dec 2017
at 21:44
  • msg #70

Re: OOC Discussion 8

Grunyar, i'm ready for a quick match if you are. Just say the word and i'll post the challenge.
Josep Gavinho
Sorcerer 1,687, 1143 posts
Human Wizard
TA - 1,687 BP
Sat 23 Dec 2017
at 23:34
  • msg #71

Re: OOC Discussion 8

GM Arkrim:
Hey folks, for future reference, if someone's primary class (the class they have the most levels in) doesn't match their Tag, that is a violation.

 So, my tag currently says Sorcerer, but I’m 100% wizard.
 In past iterations, Josep has been either straight wizard, straight sorcerer, or wizard with a sorcerer dip.
 Can I be a Sorcezard and keep that flexibility for future Josep builds ?
 If I have to stop weaseling about, I’d rather stick with Wizard.
Brakt
Brawler 2,729, 534 posts
Ogre Fighter
SotVD
Sun 24 Dec 2017
at 03:10
  • msg #72

Re: OOC Discussion 8

Psh Josep. You only have to pay 160bp, that's nothing. If Latro or I decide to change around, that's like, 300BP plus we've got to shell out now.  Speaking of Latro... Once this Championship is over and done, I'll be happy to check out some mythic stuff if you want to have a 1-2 Mythic Tier match? Hopefully the championship BP will pay for the tiers :)

Also... Today's Christmas Eve in Australia, so I've got about 8 hours, and then I'll be off for 2-3 days.  You guys may want to find another ref unfortunately.

@GM: While I'll be off when the 48 hour timeframe expires, please consider this my official volunteering for the Championship, assuming neither Hiro nor Tina wishes to step forward during this time.
Haran Madar
Sorcerer 721, 248 posts
Human Sorcerer
Sun 24 Dec 2017
at 04:43
  • msg #73

OOC Discussion 8

In reply to Somatra (msg # 47):

I'd join you in a monster hunt. But I think we have to find someone willing to be the monster.
Brakt
Brawler 2,729, 535 posts
Ogre Fighter
SotVD
Sun 24 Dec 2017
at 05:07
  • msg #74

OOC Discussion 8

Not going to throw your hat in the Championship ring Haran?  It's a stack of free BP for you, and you'd get to pick the map :)
Brakt
Brawler 2,729, 536 posts
Ogre Fighter
SotVD
Sun 24 Dec 2017
at 06:56
  • msg #75

OOC Discussion 8

Just going through the Hall of Heroes, and I believe that my last battle now holds the record for most damage in 1 round?

After rolling Vicious and Bane, the total damage dealt to Boad was 283 damage.  If you include the vicious damage to myself, the total dealt was 307.
Maelstrom
Monk 1,056, 372 posts
Human Monk
SotVD
Sun 24 Dec 2017
at 08:18
  • msg #76

OOC Discussion 8

In reply to Brakt (msg # 75):

For the juggernaut, I'm ready when you all are.
GM Arkrim
GM, 6354 posts
Game Master
Sun 24 Dec 2017
at 08:21
  • msg #77

OOC Discussion 8

Your tag must have you primary class. Your primary class is whichever class you have the MOST levels in.

If you're a Sorcerer 9/Cleric 1, you can just be Sorcerer. You don't have to be a Sorcleric or a Clericerer.

If you're Brawler 6/Barbarian 4 you can just be "Brawler", although I recommend Brawlbarian because it sounds way more awesome.

BUT NO MORE FREEBIES.

I TAKE YOUR BP IF YOU DON'T MATCH.
Brakt
Brawler 2,729, 537 posts
Ogre Fighter
SotVD
Sun 24 Dec 2017
at 09:08
  • msg #78

OOC Discussion 8

Oh my god, you're right. That's amazing...

Back to the drawing board, Brawlbarian!
Brakt
Brawler 2,729, 538 posts
Ogre Fighter
SotVD
Sun 24 Dec 2017
at 09:42
  • msg #79

OOC Discussion 8

Oh my god Arkrim, why do you hate Multiclassing so much? I guess the Brawlbarian will wait till I have more BP to spend.
Vry
Sorcerer 2,317, 332 posts
Advanced Gnome
Shadow's Caress
Sun 24 Dec 2017
at 10:43
  • msg #80

OOC Discussion 8

Match Type: Juggernaut 1v3
BP/Hero Limit: No Limit BP / No Limit Hero Points
      Referee: Grunyar? Someone else?
Participant 1: Vry, Adv. Gnome, Sorcerer 15
Participant 2: Maelstrom, Human, Monk xx
Participant 3: Ankou, Dwarf, Inquisitor xx
Participant 4: Lyn, Elf, Magus xx
          Map: Large The Islands
     Lighting: Standard Light
      Terrain: Jungle
        Walls: Standard Masonry
         Prep: 1 Round
       Extras: Nothing

How about it? :)
Lyn
Magus 741, 35 posts
Elf Magus
Sun 24 Dec 2017
at 11:03
  • msg #81

OOC Discussion 8

Islands? Sure...

Magus 12
Vry
Sorcerer 2,317, 333 posts
Advanced Gnome
Shadow's Caress
Sun 24 Dec 2017
at 11:21
  • msg #82

OOC Discussion 8

In reply to Lyn (msg # 81):

Fun to try out different maps ^_^
GM Arkrim
GM, 6355 posts
Game Master
Sun 24 Dec 2017
at 19:24
  • msg #83

Re: OOC Discussion 8

Brakt:
Oh my god Arkrim, why do you hate Multiclassing so much? I guess the Brawlbarian will wait till I have more BP to spend.

I don't hate all multiclassing, just dips.

~50% 1 class and 50% another is fine.

Even 50/50 then a prestige class is fine.

But taking only 1 or 2 levels in a class JUST to get that ONE ability you like?

Ugh. I hate that.

Like, seething thousand-year-blood-feud type hatred.
Maelstrom
Monk 1,056, 373 posts
Human Monk
SotVD
Sun 24 Dec 2017
at 19:59
  • msg #84

OOC Discussion 8

In reply to Vry (msg # 80):

When mages select non standard maps with weird terrains, I get worried :P

But sure, looks good to me!

Also, Maelstrom is normally a Monk, but has been an unchained monk in one or two fights. I know the arena rules state that unchained classes are their own base class. Can we leave my tag as 'monk' as the monk and unchained monk classes are similar and not likely to mislead?
This message was last edited by the player at 20:07, Sun 24 Dec 2017.
Somatra
Slayer 94, 2 posts
Fetchling Slayer
Sun 24 Dec 2017
at 20:52
  • msg #85

OOC Discussion 8

In reply to Haran Madar (msg # 73):

Okay, so that's two of us on, if we can find someone to play the monster.

Of course, I understand with Christmas a lot of people are busy with that for the next few days.
Vry
Sorcerer 2,317, 334 posts
Advanced Gnome
Shadow's Caress
Sun 24 Dec 2017
at 22:49
  • msg #86

OOC Discussion 8

Honestly, there are a few maps I chose not to suggest - so this one does fit my purposes :) But I have no specific strategy for it, I just prefer something else than the standard open map :)

Once the juggernaut is over, I’ll be available for being monster or reffing or such. I won’t be in the championship anyway :p
GM Arkrim
GM, 6356 posts
Game Master
Mon 25 Dec 2017
at 00:42
  • msg #87

OOC Discussion 8

In reply to Maelstrom (msg # 84):

Nah, just "monk" can be classic or unchained so hurray for you on that technicality. Same goes for rogue and barbarian and summoner.
Brakt
Brawler 2,729, 539 posts
Ogre Brawler
SotVD
Mon 25 Dec 2017
at 08:14
  • msg #88

OOC Discussion 8

Yeah, fair enough.

You'll have to tell us the story one day though.

I get the 2 level dips, because you don't lose much progression. If you're half wizard/martial I get that was well... Though why when you can be a magus?

I don't understand why anyone would 50/50 dip martial classes though. Just makes everything worse. Maybe, just maybe, you're a paladin who wants rage rounds, or extra feats... But that's just me lol

Brawlbarian makes me lose my stack of d6 rolls, and I lose a flurry attack, but one day :O
Vry
Sorcerer 2,317, 337 posts
Advanced Gnome
Shadow's Caress
Mon 25 Dec 2017
at 08:28
  • msg #89

OOC Discussion 8

In reply to Brakt (msg # 88):

I agree, the 50/50 dips are actually hard to justify unless it leads to a prestige class, imo. There's like one version I can think of, and that's when you have 50% fighter because you want to have good combat capabilities with whatever other class/concept you have in mind.
One- or two-level dips can be really powergamey, but I think they can also work quite well in a story... Or in a concept.
Josep Gavinho
Wizard 1,687, 1144 posts
Human Wizard
TA - 1,687 BP
Mon 25 Dec 2017
at 09:46
  • msg #90

OOC Discussion 8

Merry Christmas all, do we get an extra 100BP wrapped under the tree? I’ve been really good this year.

Also, last I remember playing the Islands, i thought we’d casually throw bombs and ray at each other from our respective islands, but soon enough Tina was chomped by a killer whale. We shouldn’t keep those in a tank really.
Vry
Sorcerer 2,317, 338 posts
Advanced Gnome
Shadow's Caress
Mon 25 Dec 2017
at 10:04
  • msg #91

OOC Discussion 8

In reply to Josep Gavinho (msg # 90):

Haha! Sounds like Islands has potential then :P You about ready to go with your dwarf, Josep? If so, I'll post the challenge.
(if you want to go for the large coloseum, that's fine too!)
This message was last edited by the player at 10:05, Mon 25 Dec 2017.
Vry
Sorcerer 2,317, 339 posts
Advanced Gnome
Shadow's Caress
Mon 25 Dec 2017
at 11:20
  • msg #92

OOC Discussion 8

Grunyar seem to be headed into a fight, Boadicea want to ref our juggernaut? We should be done before the championship, I hope :)
Ankou
Inquisitor 906, 407 posts
Dwarf Druid 906BP
Thaumaturgical Alliance
Mon 25 Dec 2017
at 11:27
  • msg #93

OOC Discussion 8

Sounds good. FYI I’m Dwarf Druid 13
Vry
Sorcerer 2,317, 340 posts
Advanced Gnome
Shadow's Caress
Mon 25 Dec 2017
at 11:37
  • msg #94

Re: OOC Discussion 8

Match Type: Juggernaut 1v3
BP/Hero Limit: No Limit BP / No Limit Hero Points
      Referee: We need YOU!!! to ref.
Participant 1: Vry, Adv. Gnome, Sorcerer 15
Participant 2: Maelstrom, Human, Monk xx
Participant 3: Ankou, Dwarf, Druid 13
Participant 4: Lyn, Elf, Magus 12
          Map: Large The Islands
     Lighting: Standard Light
      Terrain: Jungle
        Walls: Standard Masonry
         Prep: 1 Round
       Extras: -

Just need a confirmed ref, and we're ready to go!
Vry
Sorcerer 2,317, 341 posts
Advanced Gnome
Shadow's Caress
Mon 25 Dec 2017
at 11:41
  • msg #95

Re: OOC Discussion 8

Haran Madar or Tinny Tina could be available for reffing too, perhaps?
GM Arkrim
GM, 6359 posts
Game Master
Mon 25 Dec 2017
at 17:21
  • msg #96

Re: OOC Discussion 8



Free Holiday BP for everyone that posts here in the next week (between Dec 25th and New Years).

You current BPReward Amount
3,000 BP++100 BP
2,000-2,999 BP+200 BP
1,000-1,999 BP+300 BP
<1,000 BP+400 BP

This is a one time boost per year.


Vry
Sorcerer 2,317, 343 posts
Advanced Gnome
Shadow's Caress
Mon 25 Dec 2017
at 17:37
  • msg #97

Re: OOC Discussion 8

In reply to GM Arkrim (msg # 96):

Merry Christmas! :)
Somatra
Slayer 94, 3 posts
Fetchling Slayer
Mon 25 Dec 2017
at 21:32
  • msg #98

Re: OOC Discussion 8

In reply to GM Arkrim (msg # 96):

Merry Christmas
Vry
Sorcerer 2,317, 344 posts
Advanced Gnome
Shadow's Caress
Mon 25 Dec 2017
at 21:45
  • msg #99

Re: OOC Discussion 8

In reply to Somatra (msg # 98):

That boost should get you up to a competitive level :D
Latro Dectus
Antipaladin 3,051, 1427 posts
Drow N. Antipaladin
Shadow's Caress
Tue 26 Dec 2017
at 01:58
  • msg #100

Re: OOC Discussion 8

Happy Holidays!
I think i'm literally the only one getting 100 BP. :P
Madam Opal
Witch 614, 602 posts
Ratfolk Witch
Shadow's Caress
Tue 26 Dec 2017
at 01:59
  • msg #101

Re: OOC Discussion 8

Merry Christmas.
Might as well boost my other characters as well. :D
Ugrim
Barbarian 1,568, 529 posts
Adv. Orc Barbar/Fighter
Shadow's Caress
Tue 26 Dec 2017
at 01:59
  • msg #102

Re: OOC Discussion 8

UGRIM CRUSH HOLIDAY SEASON!!!
Ario
Kineticist 1,635, 482 posts
Drider Oreo
Tue 26 Dec 2017
at 03:05
  • msg #103

Re: OOC Discussion 8

Merry Christmas from the Underdark.
Thraxis
Summoner 1,263, 402 posts
Half-orc Summoner
Tue 26 Dec 2017
at 03:07
  • msg #104

Re: OOC Discussion 8

After a very long hiatus I should have time to play a match or two in a couple of months.  Hope you all have a very merry Christmas.
Tinny Tina
Alchemist 1,862, 690 posts
Wyrwood Alchemist
SotVD
Tue 26 Dec 2017
at 03:43
  • msg #105

Re: OOC Discussion 8

Happy holidays!
Brakt
Brawler 2,929, 541 posts
Ogre Brawler
SotVD
Tue 26 Dec 2017
at 11:16
  • msg #106

Re: OOC Discussion 8

Only by 50bp Latro. Thought about that mythic match at all?
Boadicea
Barbarian 2,109, 866 posts
Advanced Human Barbarian
Tue 26 Dec 2017
at 12:42
  • msg #107

Re: OOC Discussion 8

Wow lots of people still lurking around :)
Latro Dectus
Antipaladin 3,151, 1428 posts
Drow N. Antipaladin
Shadow's Caress
Tue 26 Dec 2017
at 13:11
  • msg #108

Re: OOC Discussion 8

In reply to Brakt (msg # 106):

I'm always thinking about it.
It'll probably have to wait until after the FFA championship match though.
And as i haven't herd from Grunyar yet about doing our quick match before the championship, i looks as if his and our match will have to wait as well.
there are, in fact, only 6 more days until the new year and a new champion is crowned.
Grunyar Fangblood
Summoner 2,255, 703 posts
Skinwalker Summoner
Tue 26 Dec 2017
at 13:28
  • msg #109

Re: OOC Discussion 8

Sorry Latro this holiday was nuts for me, probably best to wait till after Championship.  That way I get a small cut of all that BP :)
Vry
Sorcerer 2,517, 347 posts
Advanced Gnome
Shadow's Caress
Tue 26 Dec 2017
at 13:29
  • msg #110

Re: OOC Discussion 8

In reply to Grunyar Fangblood (msg # 109):

How about reffing the juggernaut then? ^_^
Grunyar Fangblood
Summoner 2,255, 704 posts
Skinwalker Summoner
Tue 26 Dec 2017
at 13:58
  • msg #111

Re: OOC Discussion 8

In reply to Vry (msg # 110):

As long as Latro is ok with holding off our match.

Speaking of the match has Tina and Brakt decided who will represent SOTVD only 4 hours till Hiro's deadline?
Maelstrom
Monk 1,056, 375 posts
Human Monk
SotVD
Tue 26 Dec 2017
at 19:03
  • msg #112

Re: OOC Discussion 8

In reply to Grunyar Fangblood (msg # 111):

I think Brakt volunteered.
Haran Madar
Sorcerer 721, 250 posts
Human Sorcerer
Tue 26 Dec 2017
at 19:08
  • msg #113

Re: OOC Discussion 8

In reply to Somatra (msg # 98):

Somatra, I still want to do the monster hunt. I may need to pick up my belt first. Lol
Somatra
Slayer 494, 4 posts
Fetchling Slayer
Tue 26 Dec 2017
at 19:56
  • msg #114

Re: OOC Discussion 8

In reply to Haran Madar (msg # 113):

Sure.  Vesk has said she'll ref it after her juggernaut, so we can set it up then.  With my shiny Christmas BP I was able to lvl up to 9th and get some good items, so this should be fun. :)

Quick clarification on the monster hunt.  The Ref plays the monster and chooses it, but do we get to choose the map?  Or is that up to the monster as well.  Just hoping for a lg map with some hidey places since I'm so range heavy.
This message was last edited by the player at 21:07, Tue 26 Dec 2017.
Grunyar Fangblood
Summoner 2,455, 705 posts
Skinwalker Summoner
Tue 26 Dec 2017
at 20:57
  • msg #115

Re: OOC Discussion 8

In reply to Maelstrom (msg # 112):

No one from SOTVD has posted in the official thread...
Grunyar Fangblood
Summoner 2,455, 706 posts
Skinwalker Summoner
Tue 26 Dec 2017
at 20:59
  • msg #116

Re: OOC Discussion 8

Ankou anyway you can repost your acceptance of challenge but quoting Maelstrom's post
Ankou
Druid 1,306, 410 posts
Dwarf Druid 906BP
Thaumaturgical Alliance
Tue 26 Dec 2017
at 21:08
  • msg #117

Re: OOC Discussion 8

Grunyar Fangblood:
Ankou anyway you can repost your acceptance of challenge but quoting Maelstrom's post

Thanks for pointing that.
Vry
Sorcerer 2,517, 349 posts
Advanced Gnome
Shadow's Caress
Tue 26 Dec 2017
at 21:08
  • msg #118

Re: OOC Discussion 8

In reply to Somatra (msg # 114):

Another gladiator volunteering to control the monster picks a map and a monster of appropriate CR.


Both a ref and a monster player is needed for a monster hunt! But if I do the monster playing, I'd pick a fun (i.e. not the standard colosseum) map :P
Lyn
Magus 741, 37 posts
Elf Magus
Wed 27 Dec 2017
at 04:38
  • msg #119

Re: OOC Discussion 8

Let's get in on this Holiday BP :)
Bruhli
Barbarian 1,070, 322 posts
Suli Barbarian
Wed 27 Dec 2017
at 21:38
  • msg #120

Re: OOC Discussion 8

In reply to Lyn (msg # 119):

MERRY CHRISTMAS! THE BP IS MINE!!!
GM Arkrim
GM, 6365 posts
Game Master
Thu 28 Dec 2017
at 02:33
  • msg #121

Re: OOC Discussion 8

Tree is fixed.
This message was last edited by the GM at 06:11, Thu 28 Dec 2017.
Latro Dectus
Antipaladin 3,151, 1430 posts
Drow N. Antipaladin
Shadow's Caress
Thu 28 Dec 2017
at 06:55
  • msg #122

Re: OOC Discussion 8

Oh man, i didn't realize we were staring as soon all decisions were made. :O
I thought we maybe had till New Years.
This message was last edited by the player at 06:55, Thu 28 Dec 2017.
Brakt
Brawler 2,929, 545 posts
Ogre Brawler
SotVD
Thu 28 Dec 2017
at 07:24
  • msg #123

Re: OOC Discussion 8

Just cause you're not ready :P
Latro Dectus
Antipaladin 3,151, 1431 posts
Drow N. Antipaladin
Shadow's Caress
Thu 28 Dec 2017
at 07:41
  • msg #124

Re: OOC Discussion 8

So i searched for it, but i couldn't find it, but i remember boxed in having a ceiling hight of +2, meaning that we could't even go over the walls that were placed there and were were actually very much boxed in.

Is that the way that map was designed and intended to be played or am i thinking of another map entirely?
Tinny Tina
Alchemist 2,162, 691 posts
Wyrwood Alchemist
SotVD
Thu 28 Dec 2017
at 07:50
  • msg #125

Re: OOC Discussion 8

You're probably thinking of either Guerilla Station or The Tunnels.
Brakt
Brawler 2,929, 546 posts
Ogre Brawler
SotVD
Thu 28 Dec 2017
at 08:19
  • msg #126

Re: OOC Discussion 8

So. I know that walls etc in prep rounds can't block movement, which is good. But.

If I get close to someone in a prep round, will their actions provoke AoO as normal?
Latro Dectus
Antipaladin 3,151, 1432 posts
Drow N. Antipaladin
Shadow's Caress
Thu 28 Dec 2017
at 08:58
  • msg #127

Re: OOC Discussion 8

Nope. Attacks and the like can not happen during the prep round.
Vry
Sorcerer 2,517, 352 posts
Advanced Gnome
Shadow's Caress
Thu 28 Dec 2017
at 12:34
  • msg #128

Re: OOC Discussion 8

Two great things with the new rules website:
Front page with info on updates;
Recent site activity with info on updates. :D

Right now, the multiclassing-RP-cost update looks great :)
GM Arkrim
GM, 6367 posts
Game Master
Thu 28 Dec 2017
at 14:37
  • msg #129

Re: OOC Discussion 8

In reply to Latro Dectus (msg # 122):

You do have until New Years.

Doesn't mean I'm going to FORCE you to wait until New Years.
GM Arkrim
GM, 6368 posts
Game Master
Thu 28 Dec 2017
at 14:38
  • msg #130

Re: OOC Discussion 8

In reply to Vry (msg # 128):

Yeah, I decided to ease up on it for lower levels.

The penalties still get hefty but not until higher levels.
Copper Karl
Magus 250, 1 post
Wyrwood Magus
Fri 29 Dec 2017
at 03:21
  • msg #131

Re: OOC Discussion 8

Yo someone should fight me!

But like not right now, cause I'm gonna be out of town until the new year.
Somatra
Slayer 494, 5 posts
Fetchling Slayer
Fri 29 Dec 2017
at 06:01
  • msg #132

Re: OOC Discussion 8

In reply to Copper Karl (msg # 131):

I'm up for it after the Monster Hunt.  Duel or just a Spar?
Lyn
Magus 1,141, 43 posts
Elf Magus
Fri 29 Dec 2017
at 12:28
  • msg #133

Re: OOC Discussion 8

So, after watching T-Rex Taff roam rampant in the Arena, I wasn't expecting a giant slime to come chasing me!

I mean... There's a chance it's chasing Maelstrom or Ankou, you know... The actually scary people?
Latro Dectus
Antipaladin 3,151, 1433 posts
Drow N. Antipaladin
Shadow's Caress
Fri 29 Dec 2017
at 15:10
  • msg #134

Re: OOC Discussion 8

was about to make my initiative post in the championship match when i noticed i accidentally deleted all my combat stats for some reason.
:/
Latro Dectus
Antipaladin 3,151, 1435 posts
Drow N. Antipaladin
Shadow's Caress
Fri 29 Dec 2017
at 21:53
  • msg #135

Re: OOC Discussion 8

Ok, after extreme amounts of carful consideration and planning, I'm finally ready to take that belt as my own.
All thats left is for Josep and Haran to make their initiative posts and we can go from there.
Maelstrom
Monk 1,356, 382 posts
Human Monk
SotVD
Sat 30 Dec 2017
at 13:34
  • msg #136

Re: OOC Discussion 8

Just a question - would it be possible to have a Rules Discussion thread? Instead of having the back in forth in the actual match itself, clogging up the match, it can be in a different location. Not sure if we should have a Rules discussion thread for ALL matches or if each match should get its own thread.
Grunyar Fangblood
Summoner 2,455, 716 posts
Skinwalker Summoner
Sat 30 Dec 2017
at 13:45
  • msg #137

Re: OOC Discussion 8

I agree that it clogs up the thread however as the rules state that is a way to win and is in itself a form of combat in the match.
Vry
Sorcerer 2,517, 367 posts
Advanced Gnome
Shadow's Caress
Sat 30 Dec 2017
at 14:05
  • msg #138

Re: OOC Discussion 8

True, it is a bit in the way... but it’s so important that it would probably be to confusing with two threads. Hard to tell what follows what, if the ref just commented on the last post or if the ref commented before that, etc. Comments on rules made under the summary, commented upon in another thread...
Latro Dectus
Antipaladin 3,151, 1445 posts
Drow N. Antipaladin
Shadow's Caress
Sat 30 Dec 2017
at 19:48
  • msg #139

Re: OOC Discussion 8

So i'm just going to fess up on what's happening in the championship thread for all those involved and those curious:

I tried to be a lich. There was nothing in the rules that said i couldn't and the rules even say that templates dont change starting weight and height for the base race and i figured it was a fair cost to pay both the BP for the phylactery as well as the extra BP to play a character who was, by a 2 CR increase, two levels stronger than the actual levels he was.

Apparently this flawless line of logic is not applicable however and that's the current situation i find myself in.

so, learn from papa Latro's mistakes: Don't assume you can do something even though the rules don't say you can't. Arkrim will slap you for making assumptions.
This message was last edited by the player at 19:50, Sat 30 Dec 2017.
GM Arkrim
GM, 6369 posts
Game Master
Sat 30 Dec 2017
at 20:00
  • msg #140

Re: OOC Discussion 8

Maelstrom:
Just a question - would it be possible to have a Rules Discussion thread? Instead of having the back in forth in the actual match itself, clogging up the match, it can be in a different location. Not sure if we should have a Rules discussion thread for ALL matches or if each match should get its own thread.

Actually, I think that's a good idea, just not for rulings in ongoing matches.

We should have a general ongoing discussion thread specifically for what rules we hold here in the arena.

I'll put that up.
GM Arkrim
GM, 6370 posts
Game Master
Sat 30 Dec 2017
at 20:01
  • msg #141

Re: OOC Discussion 8

Latro Dectus:
So i'm just going to fess up on what's happening in the championship thread for all those involved and those curious:

I tried to be a lich. There was nothing in the rules that said i couldn't and the rules even say that templates dont change starting weight and height for the base race and i figured it was a fair cost to pay both the BP for the phylactery as well as the extra BP to play a character who was, by a 2 CR increase, two levels stronger than the actual levels he was.

Apparently this flawless line of logic is not applicable however and that's the current situation i find myself in.

so, learn from papa Latro's mistakes: Don't assume you can do something even though the rules don't say you can't. Arkrim will slap you for making assumptions.

If the rules don't specifically say you can: then you can't...unless the referee or GM specifically makes an exception for you.

That's the #1 rule here in the arena.
Madam Opal
Witch 1,014, 603 posts
Ratfolk Witch
Shadow's Caress
Sat 30 Dec 2017
at 22:24
  • msg #142

Re: OOC Discussion 8

Vry:
Proposal: Being able to set age category for the character.

I've... actually always been doing this. Opal has been Venerable this whole time and i've seen no objections. :P
Vry
Sorcerer 2,517, 370 posts
Advanced Gnome
Shadow's Caress
Sat 30 Dec 2017
at 22:32
  • msg #143

Re: OOC Discussion 8

In reply to Madam Opal (msg # 142):

Oh, alright! Cool then :)
Haran Madar
Sorcerer 1,121, 255 posts
Human Sorcerer
Sat 30 Dec 2017
at 23:26
  • msg #144

Re: OOC Discussion 8

Latro Dectus:
So i'm just going to fess up on what's happening in the championship thread for all those involved and those curious:

I tried to be a lich. There was nothing in the rules that said i couldn't and the rules even say that templates dont change starting weight and height for the base race and i figured it was a fair cost to pay both the BP for the phylactery as well as the extra BP to play a character who was, by a 2 CR increase, two levels stronger than the actual levels he was.

Apparently this flawless line of logic is not applicable however and that's the current situation i find myself in.

so, learn from papa Latro's mistakes: Don't assume you can do something even though the rules don't say you can't. Arkrim will slap you for making assumptions.



Did you actually spend 1200 BP on the phylactery? I thought it was going to be like 500 or something. I may reconsider my vote but would like input from Brakt and Josep. If you lose 1200 bp plus whatever you spent on being a lich, you'd pretty much be a straw man at that point (still more BP than me). But still, can we have an option C where he gets half of it back?
Somatra
Slayer 494, 6 posts
Fetchling Slayer
Sun 31 Dec 2017
at 03:18
  • msg #145

Re: OOC Discussion 8

Small BP question.

Obviously you can rework things on your character between matches (so long as race and class stays the same) and changing equipment doesn't require the whole sale price calculation.  But how are consumables handled?  Like, if Somatra uses a 500gp potion in a match is she just down the 5 BP with nothing to show for it on the character sheet, or does the still have the potion or some equivalent in her equipment afterwards?
Grunyar Fangblood
Summoner 2,455, 718 posts
Skinwalker Summoner
Sun 31 Dec 2017
at 03:24
  • msg #146

Re: OOC Discussion 8

In reply to Somatra (msg # 145):

With the exception of the things that state they require a BP sacrifice (I.E. ask GM question in pm) you keep all of your BP the arena "wizards" hand you a replacement consumable as you leave after they heal your wounds and remove any long term effects.
Somatra
Slayer 494, 7 posts
Fetchling Slayer
Sun 31 Dec 2017
at 03:37
  • msg #147

Re: OOC Discussion 8

In reply to Grunyar Fangblood (msg # 146):

Thanks.

Now everybody get ready for extravagant poison use:p
Latro Dectus
Antipaladin 3,151, 1446 posts
Drow N. Antipaladin
Shadow's Caress
Sun 31 Dec 2017
at 15:29
  • msg #148

Re: OOC Discussion 8

Haran Madar:
Did you actually spend 1200 BP on the phylactery? I thought it was going to be like 500 or something. I may reconsider my vote but would like input from Brakt and Josep. If you lose 1200 bp plus whatever you spent on being a lich, you'd pretty much be a straw man at that point (still more BP than me). But still, can we have an option C where he gets half of it back?

Yes. I did. 1,200 bp for a phylactery and an extra 500 bp over that for an effective lvl 14 character (cause i'm level 12) meaning im short 1,700 bp for this match now.
Latro Dectus
Antipaladin 3,151, 1451 posts
Drow N. Antipaladin
Shadow's Caress
Tue 2 Jan 2018
at 11:46
  • msg #149

Re: OOC Discussion 8

GM Arkrim:
Templates (as they are) simply can never be allowed in this arena.

However, there may be a way to use the race creation rules from the Advanced Race Guide to develop a more balanced and sensible way to incorporate templates into races. But again, the time to develop this would be extensive and I have no desire to do so.

It's a lot of work and no one has ever put forth the effort to undergo such a project.

If someone truly wanted templates in the arena, they'd take the time and effort to do that.


I'm going to start looking into this.
Latro Dectus
Antipaladin 3,151, 1452 posts
Drow N. Antipaladin
Shadow's Caress
Tue 2 Jan 2018
at 13:35
  • msg #150

Re: OOC Discussion 8

So, after about an hour of work, this is what i've come up with as a base idea for a Lich template as a race. there are a few issues that i will note at the bottom but this is more of a working idea that anything.

the simplest way to figure the RP cost of a lich is to look at the cost of its Phylactery. which is 1,200 BP (120,000)
1,200 x 10 =12,000
the square root of 12,000 is 109.545 to the lich is roughly a 110 RP race. (110RP equates to 1,210 BP so we'll go with that)

However, i know arkrim is looking for more exact measures so we'll get as in depth as we possibly can.


Lich as a race, as determined by the Advanced Race Guide race building tools: http://www.d20pfsrd.com/gamema.../creating-new-races/

Abilities
Flexible (2 RP)
Modifiers: Members of this race gain a +2 bonus to any two ability scores.
+2 Int, +Wis
Advanced Charisma (4 RP)
Benefit: Members of this race receive a +2 racial bonus to Charisma.

Skills
Skill Bonus x12 (24 RP)
Perception +8, Stealth +8, Sense motive +8
Skill Training x5 (5 RP)
Climb, Disguise, Fly, Intimidate, Knowledge (arcana), Knowledge (religion), Perception, Sense Motive, Spellcraft, and Stealth are treated as class skills

Race Elements
Undead - 16 RP
Natural Armor  - 2 RP
 - 1 Point of Natural Armor
Improved Natural Armor x4 - 4 RP
 - 4 Extra points of Natural armor
Channel Resistance x2 - 2 RP (using Illusion resistance as a base)
 - +4 to saving throws vs all Channel Energy effects
Skeletal Damage Reduction (2 RP)
- DR 5/bludgeoning.
Damage Reduction (4 RP)
DR 5/magic.
Elemental Immunity x2 (8 RP)
Electricity and Cold

Attacks
Natural attack (1 RP)
Touch




As it stands, the Lich, as a race costs 74 RP which, by itself, costs 547 BP to play.

The big issues i've run across are thus:
the Lich's rejuvenation ability, while effectively useless in the arena, as matches never last for 1d10 days, has no equivalent in the custom races list.
Granted, this is also an ability tied directly to the Lich's Phylactery. And perhaps it's utter uselessness in an arena setting garner it a net worth of a 0 RP value.

The other, more pressing, problems present themselves in the forms of the Lich's paralyzing touch ability and the Lich's fear aura ability.

The Fear aura ability, can be finagled by looking at the Frightful Gaze (6 RP) and Stench Aura (4 RP) ability.
Replace Paralysis with frightened or shaken dependent on a creatures HD in frightful gaze and you have a partially functioning Lich fear aura
Add in Stench Aura's "Creatures that succeed at the saving throw cannot be sickened by the same creature’s stench aura for 24 hours" and special text that says you can take the ability twice you double the range and increase the duration and its just about equal to a Lich's fear aura.
The one hang up is that the Lich;s fear aura causes a fear effect that last a number of rounds equal to a lich's HD so thats a problem
Call this roughly a 16 RP ability and we're sitting pretty. (8 RP for the base 30 feet fear aura fora  duration of half HD then and extra 8 RP to double the range and double the duration. )

The touch attack damage and the paralyzing touch are more difficult
for the touch attack damage, we're looking at Elemental Weapons (6 RP) and Slapping Tail (3 RP)
 Elemental Weapons gives us an Energy Based form of attack and slapping tail gives us a 1d8 form of damage.
The problem is Elemental weapons is limited to fire, cold, Electricity, and acid and slapping tail is limited to AoOs. more over, there's nothing that gives us a bonus to damage equal to 1 for every 2 HD the creature possesses. So let's just call this a 14 RP ability to tie in with the touch attack natural weapon to round it off at 15 RP total.

With paralyzing touch, we're back to Frightful Gaze for a base form of paralysis. The biggest problem here is that the lich's Paralyzing touch causes permanent Paralysis that can only be removed by remove curse or remove paralysis.
I'd personally say call this a 10 RP ability, because even though it only happens on a touch attack, it's still permanent paralysis. Even if arena immunities get out out of it 1 round later if you're above half health.

If we factor in these last, very experimental, very not exactly exact RP values for the abilities, we do come out with a RP cost of 114 which comes to a BP cost of 1299. only 99 BP above the cost of the Lich's phylactery.

alternatively, we just say the abilities i couldn't figure cost 36 BP over the 74 and call it a day

(note: i calculated and approximated the RP cost of the Lich's abilities before figuring the RP cost of the lich based on the price of it''s phylactery so the fact that i was able to come within 4 RP of the phylactery is actually pretty good on me if i do say so myself.)

That's what i've got for the Lich. If anyone wants to throw input my way, that'd be appreciated.
This message was last edited by the player at 23:18, Tue 02 Jan 2018.
Latro Dectus
Antipaladin 3,151, 1453 posts
Drow N. Antipaladin
Shadow's Caress
Tue 2 Jan 2018
at 15:35
  • msg #151

Re: OOC Discussion 8

Side note: heres a template converted to a race thats ready to go. Period. No guess work about it (aside form channel resistance being a port of illusion resistance but i think its a very fair comparison.)


Skeletal Champion as a Race - http://www.d20pfsrd.com/bestia...letal-champion-cr-1/

Abilities
Flexible (2 RP)
+2 Str, +2 Dex

Skills
Skill Training x5 (5 RP)
Climb, Disguise, Fly, Intimidate, Knowledge (arcana), Knowledge (religion), Perception, Sense Motive, Spellcraft, and Stealth are treated as class skills

Race Elements
Undead - 16 RP
Channel Resistance x2 - 2 RP (using Illusion resistance as a base)
 - + 4 to saving throws vs Channel Energy effects
Skeletal Damage Reduction (2 RP)
 - DR 5/bludgeoning.
Elemental Immunity (4 RP)
 - Cold
Natural Armor  - (varying RP)
 - Tiny to smaller
   + 0 Natural armor (0 RP)
 - Small
   + 1 Natural armor (2 RP)
 - Medium or Large
   + 2 Natural Armor (3 RP)
 - Huge
   + 3 Natural Armor (4 RP)
 - Gargantuan
   + 6 Natural Armor (7 RP)
 - Colossal
   + 10 Natural Armor (11 RP)


Attacks
Claws (2 RP)

Feats
Quick Reactions (2 RP)
Improved Initiative as a bonus feat.

Special
The Skeletal Champion template can only be added to a corporeal creature (other than an undead) that has a skeletal system and a minimum Intelligence of 3.
Skeletal Champions must gain 2 undead Racial HD (2d8). If it had any racial HD before, they become d8s as well.
this BP cost is paid by increasing your level by two. (Multiclass penalties may apply. Consult your GM for verification)
BAB is 3/4 HD
Skills are 4 + int / lvl
Saves are bad Fort, Reflx, good Will (1/3 HD, 1/3 HD, 1/2 HD +2)

Final cost to play a Skeletal Champion:
tiny or smaller:
35 RP + 2 lvls of BP in Undead HD
Small:
37 RP + 2 lvls of BP in Undead HD
Medium or Larger
38 RP + 2 lvls of BP in Undead HD
Huge
39 RP + 2 lvls of BP in Undead HD
Gargantuan
42 RP + 2 lvls of BP in Undead HD
Colossal
46 RP + 2 lvls of BP in Undead HD


Guys, i'm actually having a lot of fun with this. Call me crazy, but this kind of thing is something i wouldn't mind doing.
This message was last edited by the player at 15:43, Tue 02 Jan 2018.
Vry
Sorcerer 2,442, 380 posts
Advanced Gnome
Shadow's Caress
Tue 2 Jan 2018
at 15:43
  • msg #152

Re: OOC Discussion 8

Latro Dectus
Antipaladin 3,151, 1454 posts
Drow N. Antipaladin
Shadow's Caress
Tue 2 Jan 2018
at 15:51
  • msg #153

Re: OOC Discussion 8

In reply to Vry (msg # 152):

Oh boy. Some of those abilities are going to be tough to figure out. I'll do what I can for it, but don't be surprised if i come back and say "Such-and-such ability is next to impossible to recreate with the given guidelines for creating races."
Vry
Sorcerer 2,442, 381 posts
Advanced Gnome
Shadow's Caress
Tue 2 Jan 2018
at 16:02
  • msg #154

Re: OOC Discussion 8

In reply to Latro Dectus (msg # 153):

Haha yeah, it looked much more complicated (but also much more cool!) than I thought it would when I googled fey template :P
Latro Dectus
Antipaladin 3,151, 1455 posts
Drow N. Antipaladin
Shadow's Caress
Tue 2 Jan 2018
at 17:04
  • msg #155

Re: OOC Discussion 8

this is the best i could do with the need to sleep looming over my head:


Fey as a race

Fey (2 RP)

Abilities
Specialized (1 RP)
 +2 Int, +2 Cha, -2 Str

Advanced Dex x2 (RP 5)
 +4 Dex

Negative Natural Armor (-2 RP)
- 1 natural armor to minimum of 0

Mind Resistance X2 (2 RP) (illusion resistance as a base)
+ 4 racial bonus vs mind-affecting spell or effects

Shadow resistance x2 (4 RP)
Cold Resistance and Electricity Resistance 10

Fey Damage Resistance (3 RP) (6 RP if 12 HD or more)
DR 5/ cold Iron (10 if 12 HD or more)

Flight (7+ RP)
Good flight capabilities
Increase the RP cost by 1 for every 10 feet past 30 rounded up the base creature would be able to fly.
Increase the RP cost by 2 if the base creature gains perfect maneuverability.

Special
For every 4 HD the Fey possess, they gain one of the following abilities.

Camouflage (Ex) (10 RP)
A fey creature can use Stealth to hide in any sort of natural terrain, even if the terrain does not grant cover or concealment. It gains a +4 racial bonus on Stealth checks. This bonus does not stack with any racial Stealth bonus possessed by the base creature.

Change Shape (Su) (6 RP?)
A fey creature can change shape into a single form. Possible forms include a normal specimen of its base creature, a humanoid creature within one size category, or an animal within one size category. In all cases, the fey creature appears as the same individual of its alternate form each time it changes shape. The type of polymorph spell used should be chosen as appropriate based on the alternate form, such as alter self for taking humanoid form. This ability can be selected more than once, granting an additional form each time.

Energy Resistance (Ex) (2 RP)
A fey creature gains resistance 10 to one energy type, or increases an existing resistance by 10. Resistance increased beyond 30 becomes immunity instead. This ability can be selected more than once.

Evasion (Ex) (??? RP)
A fey creature gains evasion, as the rogue ability of the same name.

Long Step (Su) (??? RP)
A fey creature can teleport up to 10 feet per Hit Die as a move action. It may use this ability once every 1d4 rounds.

Spell Resistance (Ex) (3 RP)
A fey creature gains SR equal to 11 + its CR. This does not stack with any existing SR possessed by the base creature.

Trackless Step (Ex) (??? RP)
A fey creature does not leave a trail in natural surroundings and cannot be tracked. It can choose to leave a trail, if it so desires.

Vanish (Su) (4-ish RP)
As a swift action, a fey creature can vanish for 1 round as if affected by invisibility. It can use this ability for 1 round per day per Hit Die.

Woodland Stride (Ex) (??? RP)
A fey creature can move through any sort of undergrowth (such as natural thorns, briars, overgrown areas, and similar terrain) at its normal speed and without taking damage or suffering any other impairment. Thorns, briars, and overgrown areas that have been magically manipulated to impede motion still affect it. Optionally, this ability may function in a different type of terrain, to allow the fey creature to move through, swamps, rocky areas, ice, and so forth. Whatever the choice, this ability only functions in one type of terrain. This ability can be selected more than once, for a different terrain each time.

Spell-Like Abilities: A fey creature with an Intelligence or Wisdom score of 8 or more has a cumulative number of spell-like abilities depending on its Hit Dice. Unless otherwise noted, an ability is usable once per day. Caster level equals the creature’s HD (or the caster level of the base creature’s spell-like abilities, whichever is higher).
HD     Abilities
1-2    Dancing lights 3/day, faerie fire (4 RP)
3-4    Entangle, glitterdust (3 RP)
5-6    Deep slumber (3 RP)
7-8    Major image (3 RP)
9-10   Confusion (3 RP)
11-12  Feeblemind (5 RP)
13-14  Mislead (6 RP)
15-16  Project image (7 RP)
17-18  Irresistible dance (8 RP)
19-20  Scintillating pattern (8 RP)

Final cost to play a Fey:
highly dependant upon your HD



Explanations:
Flight: flight says its a 4 RP cost that starts the creature at fly speed 30 with clumsy maneuverability and increases by 2 RP for 10 feet and upping the maneuverability by 1. Fey maneuverability is highly dependant on base creature's speed so i took the base 4 RP cost and added 3 on to it for good maneuverability, basically halving the increase cost to 1 because we're not im[proving the fly speed until we know the base creatures move speed.
Vanish is a spell like ability that functions as invisibility, but quickend. Normally this would be a lvl 6 equivalent spell but it's time is reduced to 1 round/level so i reduced the RP cost by 2 from 6. This is in no way official by the race creation rules, however.
All the SLAs have rp cost equal to their spell level on the class that would acquire the ability to cast them first. In all instances this is the wizard list except when its the druid. Technically speaking anything above lvl 4 doesn't have a method to reproduce it, but both spell like ability, lesser and spell like ability, greater say "the RP cost is equal to the spell level"
Everything marked with "??? RP" is something i currently have no reference for how to implements into a race. this may change in the future or it may not.


My personal notes: This race is going to a bitch to keep track of. The more you gain HD, the more this race is going to cost. Don't even think of dual-classing with this race unless you're keeping your classes within 1 level of one another and good luck paying for this race if your multiclassing with two bases races and a prestige.
This message was last edited by the player at 17:11, Tue 02 Jan 2018.
Copper Karl
Magus 250, 3 posts
Wyrwood Magus
Tue 2 Jan 2018
at 17:24
  • msg #156

Re: OOC Discussion 8

Hey I never got my holiday BP boost.
Vry
Sorcerer 2,442, 386 posts
Advanced Gnome
Shadow's Caress
Wed 3 Jan 2018
at 01:53
  • msg #157

Re: OOC Discussion 8

Speaking of frostbite in the rules thread, I find it annoying how bad wording paizo has made around fatigued ^^
Conditions:
A fatigued character becomes exhausted by doing something else that would normally cause fatigue.

But what if you're not doing something that causes fatigue - what if someone else is magically fatiguing you? Does it work then?
Well, in some cases it is explicitly written that it doesn't work like that:
Frostbite:
This spell cannot make a creature exhausted even if it is already fatigued.

Which is quite clear. But in other cases:
Ray of Exhaustion:
A character that is already fatigued instead becomes exhausted.

*sigh*
Well, maybe the Ray thing is just to not create confusion regarding the save for partial. I dunno, is this clear to everyone else? Or confusing like it is to me? If character X makes character Y fatigued, and Y was already fatigued, does Y then become exhausted? (Or does Y have to exert themselves to exhaustion?)
Brakt
Brawler 2,929, 549 posts
Ogre Brawler
SotVD
Wed 3 Jan 2018
at 03:00
  • msg #158

Re: OOC Discussion 8

So, going through the ARG, I realised that my Ogre is wrong.

Large size already gives me +2 Str and -2 Dex, which I never included in my sheet.  As well, my AC is only 2, not 2+1.

Anyone else out there using an unusual race, it might be worth double checking to ensure you've got exactly what you're supposed to have.
Vry
Sorcerer 2,442, 387 posts
Advanced Gnome
Shadow's Caress
Wed 3 Jan 2018
at 13:56
  • msg #159

Re: OOC Discussion 8

11:17, Today: Josep Gavinho rolled 4 using 1d4+1 with rolls of 3.  Time stop Rounds Count.
Haha, while making one post in this arena does often take a lot of time and energy... Certain things do make it worse. Bringing one or more companions into the fight was the worst, I thought, up until now. Taking 5 turns instead of one must surely be even worse.
Josep Gavinho
Wizard 1,987, 1153 posts
Human Wizard
TA - 1,687 BP
Wed 3 Jan 2018
at 18:48
  • msg #160

Re: OOC Discussion 8

In reply to Vry (msg # 159):
 What’s even worse is I'm doing this from my phone between driving and taking a flight back home...
Latro Dectus
Antipaladin 3,151, 1457 posts
Drow N. Antipaladin
Shadow's Caress
Thu 4 Jan 2018
at 00:03
  • msg #161

Re: OOC Discussion 8

In reply to Josep Gavinho (msg # 160):

I mean you could make it easy on yourself and... not.. take that many turns?
Somatra
Slayer 494, 8 posts
Fetchling Slayer
Thu 4 Jan 2018
at 02:30
  • msg #162

Re: OOC Discussion 8

In reply to Copper Karl (msg # 131):

Still up for a match?  The monster hunt's not happening until after the Belt and Juggernaut battles anyway.  If we can find someone to ref I figure just the 2 of us can get through a fight before those end.
Vry
Sorcerer 2,442, 390 posts
Advanced Gnome
Shadow's Caress
Thu 4 Jan 2018
at 18:09
  • msg #163

Re: OOC Discussion 8

It’s a bit unfortunate to have two battles with such overlap in participants, at the same time... I’ll try to finish you guys quickly in the juggernaut ;)
Latro Dectus
Antipaladin 3,151, 1462 posts
Drow N. Antipaladin
Shadow's Caress
Fri 5 Jan 2018
at 10:29
  • msg #164

Re: OOC Discussion 8

Note to all combatants, I Latro Dectus, following the championship match and my promised match to Grunyar, will be taking a break from arena matches to pursue the glory of templates for the benefit of the arena (and also myself. mostly myself)
I'll still be free to ref matches as that doesn't take up nearly as much energy as participating in matches themselves.

But, i guess if i actually do win the championship i'll be at the mercy of whomever wants to challenge me for the belt. :P
Josep Gavinho
Wizard 1,987, 1164 posts
Human Wizard
TA - 1,687 BP
Fri 5 Jan 2018
at 12:56
  • msg #165

Re: OOC Discussion 8

Vry! You’re even more clever than I thought.
What are you doing wasting your time in Shadow’s Tickles ??
Join the grey side and together we can rule the galaxy  arena !!
Josep Gavinho
Wizard 1,987, 1165 posts
Human Wizard
TA - 1,687 BP
Fri 5 Jan 2018
at 12:58
  • msg #166

Re: OOC Discussion 8

We have cookies. Chocolate chips, no raisins.
Brakt
Brawler 2,929, 557 posts
Ogre Brawler
SotVD
Sat 6 Jan 2018
at 09:46
  • msg #167

Re: OOC Discussion 8

Dammit Vry.

Obviously Lyn needs a higher spellcraft check. :\  I blame working on Brakt's championship to getting caught up with that trap.

My head still hurts, stupid pillar.
Vry
Sorcerer 2,442, 404 posts
Advanced Gnome
Shadow's Caress
Sat 6 Jan 2018
at 23:41
  • msg #168

Re: OOC Discussion 8

In reply to Brakt (msg # 167):

Haha, I realized right after posting with that spell that if you'd roll spellcraft and identify it - it would all be for nothing! But then you didn't roll at all. Such a relief :)
Lyn
Magus 1,141, 54 posts
Elf Magus
Sun 7 Jan 2018
at 05:22
  • msg #169

Re: OOC Discussion 8

Oh, I rolled all right, just...

13:54, Tue 02 Jan: Lyn rolled 17 using 1d20+10 with rolls of 7.  Spellcraft vs Lvl6 Spell DC22.

:\
Vry
Sorcerer 2,442, 406 posts
Advanced Gnome
Shadow's Caress
Sun 7 Jan 2018
at 08:39
  • msg #170

Re: OOC Discussion 8

Ah, alright :D
Brakt
Brawler 2,929, 558 posts
Ogre Brawler
SotVD
Sun 7 Jan 2018
at 12:03
  • msg #171

Re: OOC Discussion 8

Okay, so heads up.  I've successfully cast miracle/got 2 days off in a row.

Since I'm not usually on while not at work, I may unfortunately be delayed in posting to Champ and Jug matches :(  I will try and find time on my phone, though formatting might suffer.

Will definitely have a post up for both around 5pmAEST Wednesday at the latest though (About 66 hours from now)
Josep Gavinho
Wizard 1,987, 1168 posts
Human Wizard
TA - 1,687 BP
Sun 7 Jan 2018
at 13:26
  • msg #172

Re: OOC Discussion 8

I doubt either fights will have reached your turn +48h by then, so no worries ;)
Vry
Sorcerer 2,442, 411 posts
Advanced Gnome
Shadow's Caress
Sun 7 Jan 2018
at 23:37
  • msg #173

Re: OOC Discussion 8

In reply to Brakt (msg # 171):

Haha, shizzle, it's Lyn next in the jug! Oh well, it's not much more than 48h until the time you've stated, I'll give it an extra 12h or so before I call 48h - you should make it with that!
Latro Dectus
Antipaladin 3,151, 1467 posts
Drow N. Antipaladin
Shadow's Caress
Mon 8 Jan 2018
at 14:23
  • msg #174

Re: OOC Discussion 8

I'm suddenly aware of the fact that we can variant multiclass instead of standard multiclass if we so choose.

The only problem is i almsot cant find a reason to give up half my feats in place of some other class's abilities.


... almost


It would be an extremely experimental build...


like, i wouldn't continue with it if it didn't work but...


man i've got too many places i want to take Latro and none of them are in the same direction.


Edit: Also, seeing as templates are being allowed into the arena in basically the same way i was planning on using them originally, i guess that means Latro will not be taking a break from the arena to help incorporate templates as a BP cost so he'll be free to lay down some pain as he builds his power once more.
This message was last edited by the player at 13:44, Tue 09 Jan 2018.
Brakt
Brawler 2,929, 559 posts
Ogre Brawler
SotVD
Tue 9 Jan 2018
at 04:31
  • msg #175

Re: OOC Discussion 8

@Vry thanks. I'll have a post up ASAP probably this time or an hour later tomorrow

@Championship rumours of my demise have been greatly exaggerated, and I'll have a post up tomorrow :) just so Latro doesn't take his turn.
GM Arkrim
GM, 6384 posts
Game Master
Wed 10 Jan 2018
at 03:12
  • msg #176

Re: OOC Discussion 8

The Pathfinder Arena:
Spell (Magic Missile)
This spell now requires the caster to make a ranged touch attack against each target. Each attack ignores concealment and ignores any cover less than total cover (so long as the caster knows what space to target as per line of sight or a successful Perception check). Each attack is not fooled by mirror image or similar spells and the shield spell does not automatically negate magic missiles. However, certain effects force a magic missile to target normal AC instead of Touch AC including any abjuration [force] spells active on the target (such as the shield spell) or any [force] effects blocking the caster's line of effect to the target.

Reworded for clearer intent. Good call Boa.
This message was last edited by the GM at 03:16, Wed 10 Jan 2018.
Brakt
Brawler 2,929, 563 posts
Ogre Brawler
SotVD
Wed 10 Jan 2018
at 07:55
  • msg #177

Re: OOC Discussion 8

I tell you what...

I thought that combat while flying was confusing... That's got nothing on combat while burrowing. Especially when creatures have the ability to burrow through different things.
Josep Gavinho
Wizard 1,987, 1178 posts
Human Wizard
TA - 1,687 BP
Wed 10 Jan 2018
at 10:59
  • msg #178

Re: OOC Discussion 8

I thought I was clever the first time I used it, but I now wish it was banned plain and simple.
There’s virtually no explanation as to what happens underground (compared to rules on underwater or airborne combat...)
Brakt
Brawler 2,929, 564 posts
Ogre Brawler
SotVD
Wed 10 Jan 2018
at 11:59
  • msg #179

Re: OOC Discussion 8

I only set it up to stop you running away, so in a way, this is all your fault Josep :P
Josep Gavinho
Wizard 1,987, 1179 posts
Human Wizard
TA - 1,687 BP
Wed 10 Jan 2018
at 12:07
  • msg #180

Re: OOC Discussion 8

I don’t doubt that! I’ve been a proud supplier of things to add to the ban list since my inception ;)
GM Arkrim
GM, 6385 posts
Game Master
Wed 10 Jan 2018
at 22:00
  • msg #181

Re: OOC Discussion 8

quote:
Burrowing: Creatures using burrowing speeds treat the ground in combat much like creatures with swim speeds would an aquatic environment except that instead of Swim checks there are Climb checks, instead of Flowing Water there is Seismic Activity, earthen material is always opaque unless exclusively noted otherwise, freedom of movement only assists creatures in these circumstances if they also have a burrowing speed, creatures on the ground always have "firm footing" assuming nothing alters gravity or the ground on which they stand, and weapon attacks treat earthen material as total cover from all directions. Thus, you must have at least some part of you sticking out of the ground to fight non-burrowing creatures while burrowing or must have both freedom of movement and a burrowing speed, though this still means foes still have total concealment from a fully submerged creature unless they are also burrowing and adjacent.

Try this for now until we get something more...grounded.

It's the most...down-to-earth thing I could think of.

:P
Boadicea
Barbarian 2,309, 890 posts
Advanced Human Barbarian
Wed 10 Jan 2018
at 22:25
  • msg #182

Re: OOC Discussion 8

I like it but just for arguments sake two Large Earth Elementals fighting both have the ability to sense the other and reach so the limitation of must be adjacent is very limiting.
Josep Gavinho
Wizard 1,987, 1181 posts
Human Wizard
TA - 1,687 BP
Wed 10 Jan 2018
at 22:31
  • msg #183

Re: OOC Discussion 8

Well, Earth Elementals are « earth gliding » rather than burrowing, so there’s that layer of complexity added to the mix.
Boadicea
Barbarian 2,309, 891 posts
Advanced Human Barbarian
Wed 10 Jan 2018
at 22:37
  • msg #184

Re: OOC Discussion 8

In reply to Josep Gavinho (msg # 183):

*Sigh* that was the first large creature I could think of, lol
GM Arkrim
GM, 6386 posts
Game Master
Wed 10 Jan 2018
at 22:38
  • msg #185

Re: OOC Discussion 8

In reply to Josep Gavinho (msg # 183):

Exactly.
Brakt
Brawler 2,929, 567 posts
Ogre Brawler
SotVD
Thu 11 Jan 2018
at 02:35
  • msg #186

Re: OOC Discussion 8

So, by how I read what Arkrim posted.

Josep has "Total Cover" while burrowing, and is unable to be targetted by anyone or anything, unless that person is also fully submerged and adjacent?  Does having the ability to burrow count as "Burrowing" in this case?

Sorry everyone else in the Championship, I didn't expect it to be this complicated.
Josep Gavinho
Wizard 1,987, 1182 posts
Human Wizard
TA - 1,687 BP
Thu 11 Jan 2018
at 12:32
  • msg #187

Re: OOC Discussion 8

I think being “Earth Gliding” should provide some form of benefit over simply burrowing. Normal (not total) cover from adjacent foes who are not also earth gliding, for example. Otherwise the comparison/adaptation of underwater combat rules seems a very good basis.

Earth Glide (Ex):
When the creature burrows, it can pass through stone, dirt, or almost any other sort of earth except metal as easily as a fish swims through water. If protected against fire damage, it can even glide through lava. Its burrowing leaves behind no tunnel or hole, nor does it create any ripple or other sign of its presence. A move earth spell cast on an area containing the burrowing creature flings it back 30 feet, stunning it for 1 round unless it succeeds on a DC 15 Fortitude save.

GM Arkrim
GM, 6387 posts
Game Master
Thu 11 Jan 2018
at 14:59
  • msg #188

Re: OOC Discussion 8

Yeah, you still cannot SEE through the ground even if you have earthgliding or burrowing+freedom of movement.

Whatever cover you get from earthglide/burrow/freedomofmovement against your targets that are not burrowing/earthgliding, they get concealment equivalent to that cover.

Total cover/improved cover = total concealment 50%
cover = partial concealment 20%

Or something like that. I'll have to flesh it out when I have more time. That's the thought process.
Latro Dectus
Antipaladin 3,151, 1471 posts
Drow N. Antipaladin
Shadow's Caress
Fri 12 Jan 2018
at 11:12
  • msg #189

Re: OOC Discussion 8

glad we got that whole burrowing mess sorted out in the championship.

Now i can go about my business of setting up all the defences. :P
Ankou
Druid 1,306, 433 posts
Dwarf Druid 906BP
Thaumaturgical Alliance
Fri 12 Jan 2018
at 14:07
  • msg #190

Re: OOC Discussion 8

I think Juggernaut 14 is in a good place for “Most Hero Point Spent in One Battle” !!
Vry
Sorcerer 2,442, 426 posts
Advanced Gnome
Shadow's Caress
Fri 12 Jan 2018
at 14:17
  • msg #191

Re: OOC Discussion 8

In reply to Ankou (msg # 190):

Haha, you guys can not only spend 3x as many each round and in total - two of you are old alts, doubtless with 25 hero points in store each :p
GM Arkrim
GM, 6388 posts
Game Master
Fri 12 Jan 2018
at 15:07
  • msg #192

Re: OOC Discussion 8

4 players, max 3 per match, that's a total of 12 hero points possible in a single match. A static cap unless you SPECIFICALLY requested it in the extras that you can go over 3....which could create some interesting possibilities
Latro Dectus
Antipaladin 3,151, 1473 posts
Drow N. Antipaladin
Shadow's Caress
Fri 12 Jan 2018
at 21:23
  • msg #193

Re: OOC Discussion 8

Just a note on the juggernaut match, True Strike was made better in pathfinder by allowing it to ignore concealment so Ankou didn't need to roll concealment in the first place. :P

Ignore me, i see Ankou used his true strike bonus on a charge attack.
This message was last edited by the player at 21:24, Fri 12 Jan 2018.
Maelstrom
Monk 1,356, 393 posts
Human Monk
SotVD
Sat 13 Jan 2018
at 16:41
  • msg #194

Re: OOC Discussion 8

In reply to Vry (msg # 191):

Maelstrom is not an alt. He is an Original :D

(Meaning first)
This message was last edited by the player at 17:08, Sat 13 Jan 2018.
Latro Dectus
Antipaladin 3,151, 1480 posts
Drow N. Antipaladin
Shadow's Caress
Sat 13 Jan 2018
at 23:14
  • msg #195

Re: OOC Discussion 8

Hey Arkrim, question for you so we can clear something up.

If i'm invisible, as per the invisibility spell, and i move my full speed across the arena as a move action, will i both receive a -20 to my stealth and have my invisibility bonus reduced by 20 as per invisibility rules for an effective +0 to stealth or does the bonus reduction from invisibility count as a -20 to stealth and thereby the two will not stack as per the stealth rules of the Arena for an effective +20 to stealth?

Same for if I do any of the other things listed in the rules on Stealth in the arena and move with invisibility active.
Boadicea
Barbarian 2,309, 901 posts
Advanced Human Barbarian
Sat 13 Jan 2018
at 23:17
  • msg #196

Re: OOC Discussion 8

In reply to Latro Dectus (msg # 195):

If you do the leg work this has been covered before I just am not doing it for you.
Boadicea
Barbarian 2,309, 902 posts
Advanced Human Barbarian
Sun 14 Jan 2018
at 01:07
  • msg #197

Re: OOC Discussion 8

In reply to Boadicea (msg # 196):

Ok I lied could not help myself go to duel  #179 msg #47

(I know it has been covered a few times but that was the easiest one for me to find)
This message was last edited by the player at 01:14, Sun 14 Jan 2018.
Latro Dectus
Antipaladin 3,151, 1481 posts
Drow N. Antipaladin
Shadow's Caress
Sun 14 Jan 2018
at 05:43
  • msg #198

Re: OOC Discussion 8

In reply to Boadicea (msg # 197):

jeez, those matches were forever ago. #47 was from before i was even around.

also, how about those penalties, huh? It's like karma is coming back for me for fouling out Josep or something. :P
Vry
Sorcerer 2,442, 428 posts
Advanced Gnome
Shadow's Caress
Sun 14 Jan 2018
at 11:40
  • msg #199

Re: OOC Discussion 8

Graduating this weekend, family here and busy all the time... I’ll probably be able to make a post around the 48h deadline though!
Vry
Sorcerer 2,442, 430 posts
Advanced Gnome
Shadow's Caress
Sun 14 Jan 2018
at 12:16
  • msg #200

Re: OOC Discussion 8

In reply to Vry (msg # 199):

Made it! :P
Grunyar Fangblood
Summoner 2,455, 741 posts
Skinwalker Summoner
Sun 14 Jan 2018
at 12:19
  • msg #201

Re: OOC Discussion 8

In reply to Latro Dectus (msg # 198):

Duel #179 is mine, you and Hiro where in a epic struggle for the belt when I started if memory serves me.  I can't remember how many times you two fought but seemed like a lot.
Ankou
Druid 1,306, 436 posts
Dwarf Druid 906BP
Thaumaturgical Alliance
Sun 14 Jan 2018
at 12:20
  • msg #202

Re: OOC Discussion 8

Congratulations then !
On graduating, not your post ;)
Boadicea
Barbarian 2,309, 904 posts
Advanced Human Barbarian
Sun 14 Jan 2018
at 12:21
  • msg #203

Re: OOC Discussion 8

In reply to Vry (msg # 199):

Congrats high school or college?
Vry
Sorcerer 2,442, 431 posts
Advanced Gnome
Shadow's Caress
Sun 14 Jan 2018
at 12:55
  • msg #204

Re: OOC Discussion 8

Hehe, thanks :) I guess college would be the correct translation (I never did understand what college equates to in Swedish...) - I've been studying at the university for 5 years!
Brakt
Brawler 2,929, 573 posts
Ogre Brawler
SotVD
Mon 15 Jan 2018
at 05:22
  • msg #205

Re: OOC Discussion 8

American's are weird. They don't have University like the rest of the world, they just have college.
Tinny Tina
Alchemist 2,162, 693 posts
Wyrwood Alchemist
SotVD
Mon 15 Jan 2018
at 05:28
  • msg #206

Re: OOC Discussion 8

uh, if they don't have universities, then why is it called harvard university???
This message was last edited by the player at 05:28, Mon 15 Jan 2018.
Grunyar Fangblood
Summoner 2,455, 745 posts
Skinwalker Summoner
Mon 15 Jan 2018
at 06:02
  • msg #207

Re: OOC Discussion 8

In reply to Brakt (msg # 205):

We like our slang not to mention that's what the bloody English call it so we can't have that :)
Ankou
Druid 1,306, 445 posts
Dwarf Druid 906BP
Thaumaturgical Alliance
Wed 17 Jan 2018
at 20:35
  • msg #208

Re: OOC Discussion 8

That Juggernaut is turning out to be a lot more contested than I would have thought!!!
Even with cohort and companion sleeping with the fishes, Vry is showing what she's made of...
Vry
Sorcerer 2,442, 440 posts
Advanced Gnome
Shadow's Caress
Wed 17 Jan 2018
at 21:28
  • msg #209

Re: OOC Discussion 8

Haha, I want that dominator title!!!
Lyn
Magus 1,141, 63 posts
Elf Magus
Thu 18 Jan 2018
at 06:22
  • msg #210

Re: OOC Discussion 8

All up to you Mael, don't let her kill me!
This message was last updated by the player at 06:22, Thu 18 Jan 2018.
Lyn
Magus 1,141, 64 posts
Elf Magus
Thu 18 Jan 2018
at 12:55
  • msg #211

Re: OOC Discussion 8

@Ankou

I'm not a fighter, I only have so many feats!

That being said, I did realise afterwards that one of my feats is useless, so...... Next time :O
Ankou
Druid 1,306, 449 posts
Dwarf Druid 906BP
Thaumaturgical Alliance
Thu 18 Jan 2018
at 13:52
  • msg #212

Re: OOC Discussion 8

Skill focus: sense motive ?
Vry
Sorcerer 2,442, 444 posts
Advanced Gnome
Shadow's Caress
Thu 18 Jan 2018
at 15:14
  • msg #213

Re: OOC Discussion 8

If it’s of any comfort, I picked up one and a half feat that I likely will have no use of at all - and prepared tactics with those feats thoroughly only to realize I miscalculated the metamagic level increase and can’t cast what I intended to cast...
Latro Dectus
Antipaladin 3,151, 1495 posts
Drow N. Antipaladin
Shadow's Caress
Thu 18 Jan 2018
at 21:06
  • msg #214

Re: OOC Discussion 8

Pfft. none of you know true loss. try applying half your BP to something that gets ruled out then gets ruled into the arena exactly the way you were applying it to your character sheet two days later *cough templates cough*
Vry
Sorcerer 2,442, 445 posts
Advanced Gnome
Shadow's Caress
Thu 18 Jan 2018
at 21:15
  • msg #215

Re: OOC Discussion 8

LOL! If you hadn’t gambled but instead worked for what you wanted - you’d have it all at this point Latro! :p :p
Latro Dectus
Antipaladin 3,151, 1497 posts
Drow N. Antipaladin
Shadow's Caress
Fri 19 Jan 2018
at 02:07
  • msg #216

Re: OOC Discussion 8

In reply to Vry (msg # 215):

What can i say? I'm gamblin man.
Bruhli
Barbarian 1,370, 323 posts
Suli Barbarian
Sat 20 Jan 2018
at 03:07
  • msg #217

Re: OOC Discussion 8

I would like to change my class to Kineticist.
This message was last edited by the player at 03:08, Sat 20 Jan 2018.
Boadicea
Barbarian 2,309, 914 posts
Advanced Human Barbarian
Sat 20 Jan 2018
at 08:51
  • msg #218

Re: OOC Discussion 8

In reply to Bruhli (msg # 217):

You should drop GM a PM for that msg # 63 this thread.
Vry
Sorcerer 2,442, 460 posts
Advanced Gnome
Shadow's Caress
Sun 21 Jan 2018
at 21:42
  • msg #219

Re: OOC Discussion 8

Haha, I guess that's the toughest part of playing 1v3... If I make a mistake and ruin a turn for myself, that's not just a missed spell - that's all of the actions for my team that turn... Regardless, an exciting way to play ^^
Boadicea
Fighter 2,078, 924 posts
Advanced Human Barbarian
Mon 22 Jan 2018
at 02:46
  • msg #220

Re: OOC Discussion 8

Ouch, thank you GM, I thought it was 1% to change class glad I did it before the champ match was over 10% hurts :)
GM Arkrim
GM, 6391 posts
Game Master
Mon 22 Jan 2018
at 02:50
  • msg #221

Re: OOC Discussion 8

Does it say 1% somewhere on the site? I was using the reset cost in the character creation section.

I know I offered it for free for a while but that window has long passed. I assumed you guys are using a reset.
Boadicea
Fighter 2,078, 925 posts
Advanced Human Fighter
Mon 22 Jan 2018
at 03:16
  • msg #222

Re: OOC Discussion 8

In reply to GM Arkrim (msg # 221):

Wow my bad that's what I get for not checking the rules first I did not see the part before about having to reset.  I was going by memory of old rules where as long as two (name/class/race) stayed the same you did not reset.  Serves me right for not looking it up.
GM Arkrim
GM, 6392 posts
Game Master
Mon 22 Jan 2018
at 03:53
  • msg #223

Re: OOC Discussion 8

Huh, I don't remember that. I know I used to have 1% penalty for spelling errors and stuff but I did away with that and made it more flexible based on GM discretion. Especially since spelling errors and grammar was going too far, even for me.
Latro Dectus
Antipaladin 3,151, 1500 posts
Drow N. Antipaladin
Shadow's Caress
Tue 23 Jan 2018
at 23:57
  • msg #224

Re: OOC Discussion 8

just as a question for the juggernaut match, wouldn't Vry still receive conelment benefits from Ankou's attacks?
Ankou
Druid 1,306, 462 posts
Dwarf Druid 906BP
Thaumaturgical Alliance
Wed 24 Jan 2018
at 00:03
  • msg #225

Re: OOC Discussion 8

Not as long as she has a heartbeat.
So towards the end of the round, I suppose she would regain the benefit of concealment ;)
Lyn
Magus 1,141, 69 posts
Elf Magus
Wed 24 Jan 2018
at 02:46
  • msg #226

Re: OOC Discussion 8

@Mael I want to, but it's been pointed out that once upon a time, SotVD had a clause preventing spell-casters from joining.  No idea if that's still relevant or not.

That being said, Hiro was here for a day, and is gone again...

@Arkrim - Is there any way for someone to take over a guild from an inactive Guildmaster, or would it be better to start a new guild instead? Asking for a friend.
GM Arkrim
GM, 6393 posts
Game Master
Wed 24 Jan 2018
at 03:46
  • msg #227

Re: OOC Discussion 8

In reply to Lyn (msg # 226):

Start your own guild unfortunately. I don't delete a guild until there's 0 players left and I don't delete players unless they haven't logged in for over a year or something like that.
Latro Dectus
Antipaladin 3,151, 1501 posts
Drow N. Antipaladin
Shadow's Caress
Wed 24 Jan 2018
at 09:20
  • msg #228

Re: OOC Discussion 8

In reply to Ankou (msg # 225):

oh yeah, that's right, you can do that, can't you? :P
Ankou
Druid 1,306, 463 posts
Dwarf Druid 906BP
Thaumaturgical Alliance
Wed 24 Jan 2018
at 16:19
  • msg #229

Re: OOC Discussion 8

That Juggernaut was fun!

I need to do some rebuilding, so if someone needs a ref, I’m in.
Vry
Sorcerer 2,442, 466 posts
Advanced Gnome
Shadow's Caress
Wed 24 Jan 2018
at 16:47
  • msg #230

Re: OOC Discussion 8

It was fun, and so challenging... I didn’t want to - but I sort of had to attack everyone a little bit rather than focus one. And for being three melees, you were so diverse. Arcane caster, divine caster, imba tank...

I too can ref or play monster in a monster hunt, or so. Could rebuild before Monday too.
Somatra
Slayer 494, 9 posts
Fetchling Slayer
Thu 25 Jan 2018
at 22:31
  • msg #231

Re: OOC Discussion 8

Well, I'm up for the Monster Hunt now that not everyone's tied up.  I can finally break in my slayer ^-^
Brakt
Brawler 2,929, 586 posts
Ogre Brawler
The Order
Thu 25 Jan 2018
at 23:22
  • msg #232

Re: OOC Discussion 8

So... Just dropping by to let everyone know that The Order is now accepting new guild members :)
GM Arkrim
GM, 6396 posts
Game Master
Fri 26 Jan 2018
at 02:50
  • msg #233

Re: OOC Discussion 8

@SOMATRA

Welcome Somatra! Always good to see new faces! Yes, you guys should do a monster hunt. As long as you're not in the top 25% ranking or BP totals, monster hunts are FREE.



@BRAKT

It's been a long time since we had a new guild. Great job, Brakt. You've come a long way from a grunt to a guildmaster and competitor in the championship. Even competing in there is impressive, win or lose.

http://sites.google.com/site/t...e/leaderboard/guilds



@GRUNYAR

Can you believe this guy? He hasn't fought in forever and he's the highest BP. Not even a veteran. He's just be refereeing. Soon he'll be powerful enough to crush the new champion but not allowed to challenge them for the belt. XD
Brakt
Brawler 2,929, 587 posts
Ogre Brawler
The Order
Fri 26 Jan 2018
at 03:29
  • msg #234

Re: OOC Discussion 8

I'm not going to be doing anything for a while, so I'm up for a monster hunt, or.

Lyn tells me she's up for a Juggernaut if a couple of you newbies want to try your luck :)

That includes you vets who want to make a new alt as well >_>
Grunyar Fangblood
Summoner 3,236, 755 posts
Skinwalker Summoner
Fri 26 Jan 2018
at 04:46
  • msg #235

Re: OOC Discussion 8

In reply to GM Arkrim (msg # 233):

Lol I will get there some day only three more left, one with possibly the new champ (I have faith in Latro his bag of tricks may not be as large as it should be but the antipaladin is still in the fight)
Vry
Sorcerer 3,076, 468 posts
Advanced Gnome
Shadow's Caress
Fri 26 Jan 2018
at 06:08
  • msg #236

Re: OOC Discussion 8

In reply to Brakt (msg # 232):


“The Order welcomes you.”
Brakt
Brawler 2,929, 588 posts
Ogre Brawler
The Order
Fri 26 Jan 2018
at 06:15
  • msg #237

Re: OOC Discussion 8

Damn right we do. Someone has to stand up against the forces of evil!
Vry
Sorcerer 3,076, 469 posts
Advanced Gnome
Shadow's Caress
Fri 26 Jan 2018
at 06:21
  • msg #238

Re: OOC Discussion 8

In reply to Brakt (msg # 237):

So you can eat the skulls of your enemies in peace? :p
Brakt
Brawler 2,929, 589 posts
Ogre Brawler
The Order
Fri 26 Jan 2018
at 06:32
  • msg #239

Re: OOC Discussion 8

I don't kill them to eat them... There just happens to be food laying on the ground I pick up :D
Latro Dectus
Antipaladin 3,151, 1504 posts
Drow N. Antipaladin
Shadow's Caress
Fri 26 Jan 2018
at 10:15
  • msg #240

Re: OOC Discussion 8

GM Arkrim:
@GRUNYAR

Can you believe this guy? He hasn't fought in forever and he's the highest BP. Not even a veteran. He's just be refereeing. Soon he'll be powerful enough to crush the new champion but not allowed to challenge them for the belt. XD

pft. he's only 85 BP above me right now.
Josep Gavinho
Wizard 1,987, 1220 posts
Human Wizard
TA - 1,687 BP
Fri 26 Jan 2018
at 13:16
  • msg #241

Re: OOC Discussion 8

Maybe the refereeing job is too well paid ?
In the juggernaut, the highest earner is the ref.
GM Arkrim
GM, 6397 posts
Game Master
Fri 26 Jan 2018
at 13:59
  • msg #242

Re: OOC Discussion 8

Josep Gavinho:
Maybe the refereeing job is too well paid ?
In the juggernaut, the highest earner is the ref.

Yeah, but we want to leave an incentive for reffing too. If we lower the pay below or equal to "losing" BP, why would anyone be interested?

Plus juggernauts and FFA are difficult to ref, especially if people start rules debates.
Vry
Sorcerer 3,076, 470 posts
Advanced Gnome
Shadow's Caress
Fri 26 Jan 2018
at 14:08
  • msg #243

Re: OOC Discussion 8

Incentive is important, it’s tough when you find a good duel but can’t get a ref for months. Also having just recently started rules lawyering for real I’m glad the ref gets a reward for putting up with it :p
Josep Gavinho
Wizard 1,987, 1222 posts
Human Wizard
TA - 1,687 BP
Fri 26 Jan 2018
at 17:58
  • msg #244

Re: OOC Discussion 8

Maybe we should be able to ref whilst playing?
Vry
Sorcerer 3,076, 471 posts
Advanced Gnome
Shadow's Caress
Fri 26 Jan 2018
at 18:05
  • msg #245

Re: OOC Discussion 8

Would be nice! But it might get complicated with the rewards from one game affecting those from another. Although we do declare level when we challenge, we could declare BPs and then that would be saved in the first post.

One important benefit with that: one wouldn't have to be afraid of being locked reffing a game for two months when one could've done several duels.
GM Arkrim
GM, 6398 posts
Game Master
Sat 27 Jan 2018
at 03:48
  • msg #246

Re: OOC Discussion 8

Josep Gavinho:
Maybe we should be able to ref whilst playing?

You can.

Just use one of your alts.

You just can't ref and compete in the same game nor have one character be in multiple places at once.
This message was last edited by the GM at 03:48, Sat 27 Jan 2018.
Vry
Sorcerer 3,076, 472 posts
Advanced Gnome
Shadow's Caress
Sat 27 Jan 2018
at 14:46
  • msg #247

Re: OOC Discussion 8

I’ve got the outlines of a new build done, so if anyone wants to go for a duel I’m about ready :)
GM Arkrim
GM, 6399 posts
Game Master
Sat 27 Jan 2018
at 21:43
  • msg #248

Re: OOC Discussion 8

The problem with focusing all your effort on one character means that at some point you reach the top and your options for duels runs thin. If you can't find anyone, I recommend switching to a lower BP alt for a while. Just so all you 3,000+ BPers (all 3 of you) are aware that you can do that.
Vry
Sorcerer 3,076, 473 posts
Advanced Gnome
Shadow's Caress
Sat 27 Jan 2018
at 21:48
  • msg #249

Re: OOC Discussion 8

In reply to GM Arkrim (msg # 248):

I’d very much like to make an alt, didn’t think I could before I was veteran though!
Another option is that I play with a build of lower BP, around 2500, if anyone would accept that :)
Latro Dectus
Antipaladin 3,151, 1507 posts
Drow N. Antipaladin
Shadow's Caress
Sat 27 Jan 2018
at 22:45
  • msg #250

Re: OOC Discussion 8

I still need to revamp Ugrim and Madam Opal for the current format of the Arena. :P
Somatra
Slayer 494, 10 posts
Fetchling Slayer
Sun 28 Jan 2018
at 06:09
  • msg #251

Re: OOC Discussion 8

So for the Monster Hunt:

Vry has volunteered to be the monster.
Haran Madar showed interest in joining before.  If anyone else wants to join Somatra then jump on in.
And we still need a ref.

Anyone want to volunteer?  I'm pretty ready to try out this build.
Grunyar Fangblood
Summoner 3,236, 756 posts
Skinwalker Summoner
Sun 28 Jan 2018
at 06:11
  • msg #252

Re: OOC Discussion 8

In reply to Somatra (msg # 251):

I am always up to ref, Haran is tied up in the championship
Madam Opal
Witch 1,014, 604 posts
Ratfolk Witch
Shadow's Caress
Sun 28 Jan 2018
at 16:46
  • msg #253

Re: OOC Discussion 8

In reply to Somatra (msg # 251):

Let me fix up my sheet and i'll join you on the hunt.
Vry
Sorcerer 3,076, 474 posts
Advanced Gnome
Shadow's Caress
Sun 28 Jan 2018
at 16:51
  • msg #254

Re: OOC Discussion 8

So, how hard a fight do you want? :D
Easy, average, challenging, hard, epic, legendary, nightmare, insane, or suicide?
Somatra
Slayer 494, 11 posts
Fetchling Slayer
Sun 28 Jan 2018
at 19:09
  • msg #255

Re: OOC Discussion 8

In reply to Vry (msg # 254):

We'll need a consensus from everyone, but I'm voting Challenging?  This is my first dip in the waters so I'll bow to ya'lls suggestions.
Madam Opal
Witch 1,014, 605 posts
Ratfolk Witch
Shadow's Caress
Sun 28 Jan 2018
at 19:26
  • msg #256

Re: OOC Discussion 8

In reply to Somatra (msg # 255):

I'll take challenging as well.
Vry
Sorcerer 3,076, 475 posts
Advanced Gnome
Shadow's Caress
Sun 28 Jan 2018
at 19:54
  • msg #257

Re: OOC Discussion 8

   Match Type: Monster Hunt
BP/Hero Limit: No Limit BP / standard 3 hero point limit / Challenging monster difficulty
      Referee: Grunyar Fangblood
Participant 1: Somatra, Fetchling, Slayer (Yourlevelhere) <- edit stuff if incorrect
Participant 2: Madam Opal, Ratfolk, Witch (Yourlevelhere)
Participant 3: 4x CR8 Unknown Monster (CR12 total)
          Map: Large The Tunnels
     Lighting: Low-Light/Dim lighting
      Terrain: Plane of Dreams, Underground
        Walls: Trick Walls (Disable Device DC 22, Break DC 14)
         Prep: No prep.
       Extras: No extras.


As the rules website states that the monster player decides on map, I took the liberty of making up an exciting combination :D Does it look alright? There will practically be a prep round or two as the tunnels will prevent us from entering at the same place :P

Your total BP is just above 1500. 1500/4 =375 = level 11 = CR11. Challenging: +1CR.
This message was last edited by the player at 20:11, Sun 28 Jan 2018.
Vry
Sorcerer 3,076, 476 posts
Advanced Gnome
Shadow's Caress
Sun 28 Jan 2018
at 19:59
  • msg #258

Re: OOC Discussion 8

Found monsters I really like, excited! :D
Lyn
Magus 1,412, 70 posts
Elf Magus
The Order
Mon 29 Jan 2018
at 07:50
  • msg #259

Re: OOC Discussion 8

Anyone up for a fight or something? :O
Grunyar Fangblood
Summoner 3,236, 757 posts
Skinwalker Summoner
Mon 29 Jan 2018
at 14:05
  • msg #260

Re: OOC Discussion 8

Looking at the rules I had a thought, may be reading to much into it but what do you all think, does my eidolon, cohort and his familiar count towards max HD controlled?

quote:
You can have a maximum HD worth of minions on the field equal to your HD * 4, no one of which can have a CR exceed your own - 2 (not even cohorts). If you conjure more, your previous minions are instantly removed from play (utterly destroyed) and replaced by the new ones. This limit supersedes RAW.

This message was last edited by the player at 14:31, Mon 29 Jan 2018.
Josep Gavinho
Wizard 1,987, 1230 posts
Human Wizard
TA - 1,687 BP
Mon 29 Jan 2018
at 14:09
  • msg #261

Re: OOC Discussion 8

I assumed it does count when I was working out how many Elemental I could bring to the party, but I’d be glad to discover that it actually doesn’t ;)
Latro Dectus
Antipaladin 3,151, 1509 posts
Drow N. Antipaladin
Shadow's Caress
Mon 29 Jan 2018
at 14:39
  • msg #262

Re: OOC Discussion 8

So i was getting to doing some thinking and i thought up a new form of battle. I call it Army vs Army.
Basically, Two Gladiators, both of whom have the Leadership feat, send their entire entourage of units at one another and whoever's army is left standing wins.
Vry
Sorcerer 3,076, 477 posts
Advanced Gnome
Shadow's Caress
Mon 29 Jan 2018
at 14:45
  • msg #263

Re: OOC Discussion 8

In reply to Grunyar Fangblood (msg # 260):

I never considered familiars since I don’t play a class who get them, but as for the rest: I never doubted that that is the correct interpretation. Cohort, eidolon, companion all count for the cap I think, makes sense too, in a 1v1 it’s important to limit the amount of enemies any one gladiator has to face :)
GM Arkrim
GM, 6400 posts
Game Master
Mon 29 Jan 2018
at 15:09
  • msg #264

Re: OOC Discussion 8

Josep Gavinho:
I assumed it does count when I was working out how many Elemental I could bring to the party, but I’d be glad to discover that it actually doesn’t ;)

No assumption necessary. If you read the "minions" section, it has all those blatantly listed under it:
http://sites.google.com/site/t.../core-errata/classes


Latro Dectus:
So i was getting to doing some thinking and i thought up a new form of battle. I call it Army vs Army.
Basically, Two Gladiators, both of whom have the Leadership feat, send their entire entourage of units at one another and whoever's army is left standing wins.

Mass Combat rules for Pathfinder: http://www.d20pfsrd.com/gamema...r-rules/mass-combat/
Grunyar Fangblood
Summoner 3,236, 758 posts
Skinwalker Summoner
Mon 29 Jan 2018
at 15:16
  • msg #265

Re: OOC Discussion 8

In reply to GM Arkrim (msg # 264):

That's the way I read it was just hoping I was wrong :)
Grunyar Fangblood
Summoner 3,236, 759 posts
Skinwalker Summoner
Tue 30 Jan 2018
at 05:19
  • msg #266

Re: OOC Discussion 8

Another thought this one seems no brainier but who knows, if Josep summons more things would DO (his familiar) be destroyed first or is the destruction limited to summoned/created creatures?
Boadicea
Fighter 2,078, 932 posts
Advanced Human Fighter
Tue 30 Jan 2018
at 10:08
  • msg #267

Re: OOC Discussion 8

In reply to Grunyar Fangblood (msg # 266):

If I had to rule I would say no that RAI is for summoned creature to be removed from play that cohort/familiar/eidolon are permanent (unless of course opponent kills it)
This message was last edited by the player at 13:53, Tue 30 Jan 2018.
Josep Gavinho
Wizard 1,987, 1234 posts
Human Wizard
TA - 1,687 BP
Tue 30 Jan 2018
at 10:33
  • msg #268

Re: OOC Discussion 8

For that purpose, how many HD does a familiar have?
They have half their masters hp, so does that translate into half their HD?
Latro Dectus
Antipaladin 3,151, 1510 posts
Drow N. Antipaladin
Shadow's Caress
Tue 30 Jan 2018
at 11:43
  • msg #269

Re: OOC Discussion 8

In reply to Josep Gavinho (msg # 268):

for all intents and purposes, a familiar is treated as having the same amount of HD as their master. At least thats what i remember from 3.5. Haven't looked at pathfinder familiars recently enough.

Edit: Yeah, here we are

quote:
Hit Dice: For the purpose of effects related to number of Hit Dice, use the master’s character level or the familiar’s normal HD total, whichever is higher.

This message was last edited by the player at 11:48, Tue 30 Jan 2018.
Grunyar Fangblood
Summoner 3,236, 760 posts
Skinwalker Summoner
Tue 30 Jan 2018
at 13:59
  • msg #270

Re: OOC Discussion 8

In reply to Latro Dectus (msg # 269):

I totally forgot about that rule I was going to count it as the HD in the stat block.
Somatra
Slayer 494, 12 posts
Fetchling Slayer
Tue 30 Jan 2018
at 23:11
  • msg #271

Re: OOC Discussion 8

 Match Type: Monster Hunt
 BP/Hero Limit: No Limit BP / standard 3 hero point limit / Challenging monster difficulty
       Referee: Grunyar Fangblood
 Participant 1: Somatra, Fetchling, Slayer (9)
 Participant 2: Madam Opal, Ratfolk, Witch (Yourlevelhere)
 Participant 3: 4x CR8 Unknown Monster (CR12 total)
           Map: Large The Tunnels
      Lighting: Low-Light/Dim lighting
       Terrain: Plane of Dreams, Underground
         Walls: Trick Walls (Disable Device DC 22, Break DC 14)
          Prep: No prep.
        Extras: No extras.

I think this is our confirmed group.  From here we just post in the Challenge thread, right?
Lyn
Magus 1,412, 71 posts
Elf Magus
The Order
Wed 31 Jan 2018
at 00:49
  • msg #272

Re: OOC Discussion 8

Yup that's it Sometra.  You post, and then the others will need to agree.

I'm still down for a match with anyone (Looking at you Ugrim/Mael/Ankou) assuming we have someone to ref?
Madam Opal
Witch 1,014, 606 posts
Ratfolk Witch
Shadow's Caress
Wed 31 Jan 2018
at 01:25
  • msg #273

Re: OOC Discussion 8

In reply to Somatra (msg # 271):

Somatra, i sent you a PM so we can plan our approach to whatever it is we're about to fight.
Madam Opal
Witch 1,014, 607 posts
Ratfolk Witch
Shadow's Caress
Wed 31 Jan 2018
at 02:18
  • msg #274

Re: OOC Discussion 8

 Match Type: Monster Hunt
 BP/Hero Limit: No Limit BP / standard 3 hero point limit / Challenging monster difficulty
       Referee: Grunyar Fangblood
 Participant 1: Somatra, Fetchling, Slayer (9)
 Participant 2: Madam Opal, Ratfolk, Witch (11)
 Participant 3: 4x CR8 Unknown Monster (CR12 total)
           Map: Large The Tunnels
      Lighting: Low-Light/Dim lighting
       Terrain: Plane of Dreams, Underground
         Walls: Trick Walls (Disable Device DC 22, Break DC 14)
          Prep: No prep.
        Extras: No extras.

also, i added my level cause i think I'm ready. (hopefully)

also, that feeling when you have so many skill points that you might as well take ranks in disable device just for this match.
Somatra
Slayer 494, 13 posts
Fetchling Slayer
Wed 31 Jan 2018
at 02:40
  • msg #275

Re: OOC Discussion 8

I had a quick rules question since it hasn't come up for me before.  How much can you apply poison in a round?  Like, if Somatra took out arrows and started dipping them in vials, how many would you say she could do if she spent the full round doing so.  Ditto with applying with axes.  I've looked around, but I haven't found an official hard number or set time it takes to do so.

Also, since it seems we're set I'm posting in the Challenge Thread.
This message was last edited by the player at 02:42, Wed 31 Jan 2018.
Brakt
Brawler 2,929, 590 posts
Ogre Brawler
The Order
Wed 31 Jan 2018
at 03:18
  • msg #276

Re: OOC Discussion 8

Applying poison to a weapon or single piece of ammunition is a standard action.

That being said, since an applied poison won't run out of time, there's nothing saying you can't have poison applied to all of your ammunition before the match starts.
Bruhli
Kinetibarian 1,233, 324 posts
Suli Kineticist/Barbarian
Wed 31 Jan 2018
at 03:26
  • msg #277

Re: OOC Discussion 8

Lyn:
Yup that's it Sometra.  You post, and then the others will need to agree.

I'm still down for a match with anyone (Looking at you Ugrim/Mael/Ankou) assuming we have someone to ref?



Are your sure you don't want to fight me!?
Somatra
Slayer 494, 15 posts
Fetchling Slayer
Wed 31 Jan 2018
at 03:33
  • msg #278

Re: OOC Discussion 8

In reply to Brakt (msg # 276):

Hey, if I can get away with saying I applied poison before walking in I'll do that.  I was just assuming that it would have to be done after entering the arena.
Lyn
Magus 1,412, 72 posts
Elf Magus
The Order
Wed 31 Jan 2018
at 04:55
  • msg #279

Re: OOC Discussion 8

I didn't realise you were still around!

You up for a match instead? :D
Ankou
Druid 1,419, 465 posts
Oread Druid
Thaumaturgical Alliance
Wed 31 Jan 2018
at 11:40
  • msg #280

Re: OOC Discussion 8

Someone fight me?  Lyn?

Also you can’t start the fight with your weapons already poisoned (limited duration or not).

Just like you can’t have a ring of spell storing with spells already stored.
Or a glove of storing with a rod in it.

All things I’ve considered and given up on...
Vry
Sorcerer 3,076, 479 posts
Advanced Gnome
Shadow's Caress
Wed 31 Jan 2018
at 12:26
  • msg #281

Re: OOC Discussion 8

I do use one initiative for all four monsters, right? What if I had a CR10 monster, two CR7 and one CR5 (if that would add up correctly), would I designate one the leader and use that initiative (as if playing a character with leadership etc)?
Somatra
Slayer 494, 16 posts
Fetchling Slayer
Wed 31 Jan 2018
at 21:40
  • msg #282

Re: OOC Discussion 8

In reply to Ankou (msg # 280):

That' what I was thinking.  So we're back to my original question, how much poison can be applied in a single round?
Vry
Sorcerer 3,076, 481 posts
Advanced Gnome
Shadow's Caress
Wed 31 Jan 2018
at 21:49
  • msg #283

Re: OOC Discussion 8

Applying poison to a weapon or single piece of ammunition is a standard action.

This is what I find! Unless you have a class feature or something like that, that would allow you to do it faster, I'd think one weapon/standard.
Bruhli
Kinetibarian 1,220, 326 posts
Suli Kineticist/Barbarian
Thu 1 Feb 2018
at 04:21
  • msg #284

Re: OOC Discussion 8

In reply to Lyn (msg # 279):

Of course I'm still around! Let me put a few final touches on my build and I'll be up for a match.
Lyn
Magus 1,412, 73 posts
Elf Magus
The Order
Thu 1 Feb 2018
at 11:46
  • msg #285

Re: OOC Discussion 8

I'm happy with either of you. Someone post a challenge and I'll accept :)

Magus 13
Ankou
Druid 1,419, 466 posts
Oread Druid
Thaumaturgical Alliance
Thu 1 Feb 2018
at 12:24
  • msg #286

Re: OOC Discussion 8

I can ref you guys.
Lyn
Magus 1,412, 74 posts
Elf Magus
The Order
Fri 2 Feb 2018
at 06:14
  • msg #287

Re: OOC Discussion 8

Thanks Bruhli and Ankou!
Somatra
Slayer 494, 19 posts
Fetchling Slayer
Fri 2 Feb 2018
at 06:18
  • msg #288

Re: OOC Discussion 8

Can I get a quick idiot's guide on sharing my character sheet with the ref?  I'm doing something wrong and can't find it on the google site.
This message was last edited by the player at 06:22, Fri 02 Feb 2018.
Vry
Sorcerer 3,076, 483 posts
Advanced Gnome
Shadow's Caress
Fri 2 Feb 2018
at 06:31
  • msg #289

Re: OOC Discussion 8

When you're posting a new reply, look at the bottom right for the box saying "Insert a private line:"
Click that one, then from the menu that drops down, go to Private to, and you'll find a list of players. Grunyar should be conveniently placed at the bottom. Click his name. In the pop-up window, write "hello" just to have something written, then click okay.

Now, a private message is inserted into your post, message recipient and the message itself enclosed inside of [ ]. Delete the "hello", ctrl+c your character sheet from the character details menu where you've got the sheet (I usually open the sheet for editing just to get the exact same formating, when I copy). Then paste that sheet where "hello" was previously written.

When you preview your message, everything within the brackets should be red/orange.
Somatra
Slayer 494, 20 posts
Fetchling Slayer
Fri 2 Feb 2018
at 06:39
  • msg #290

Re: OOC Discussion 8

In reply to Vry (msg # 289):

Thank you.  I wasn't sure whether I was supposed to copy the whole thing or if there was a link or something I was supposed to give.
Vry
Sorcerer 3,076, 484 posts
Advanced Gnome
Shadow's Caress
Fri 2 Feb 2018
at 06:43
  • msg #291

Re: OOC Discussion 8

Ah right! I think there's a lot of confusing things before you've gone through your first match :P
Ankou
Druid 1,419, 468 posts
Oread Druid
Thaumaturgical Alliance
Sat 3 Feb 2018
at 11:45
  • msg #292

Re: OOC Discussion 8

@Lyn/Brakt you got your alt characters mixed up in the challenge thread. I'm not sure where to take it from there.

Simplest would be to reissue the challenge altogether. Since Bruhli issued the first one, Lyn do you mind issuing the new one?
Lyn
Magus 1,412, 76 posts
Elf Magus
The Order
Sun 4 Feb 2018
at 12:24
  • msg #293

Re: OOC Discussion 8

djfdjfdfdkf Gtfo Brakt, go away. Let me post on my own.

Question for GM, and I'm happy to take the foul if the ruling doesn't go my way.

Elves are called out as proficient in Rapiers.  The Spiral Rapier, outside of being a rapier by name, specifically says "Any effects that apply to rapiers also apply to a spiral rapier."

In addition, according to this forum post, the original author of the book "Adventurer's Armory 2" has called out that she believes it should be counted under rapier proficiency: http://paizo.com/threads/rzs2u...Proficiency-Question

Does Rapier proficiency include Spiral Rapiers?
Vry
Sorcerer 3,076, 488 posts
Advanced Gnome
Shadow's Caress
Sun 4 Feb 2018
at 12:26
  • msg #294

Re: OOC Discussion 8

In reply to Lyn (msg # 293):

I found it reasonable to rule it that way in Lyn's first game.
Relevant question: What other effects apply to rapiers?
Ankou
Druid 1,419, 471 posts
Oread Druid
Thaumaturgical Alliance
Sun 4 Feb 2018
at 12:32
  • msg #295

Re: OOC Discussion 8

 I would agree if it were a Martial Weapon. As an Exotic Weapon, I find it hard to imagine that the intention was to give proficiency in it to anyone who has proficiency in Rapiers, as it essentially makes it a Martial Weapon.

 I think some class features/feats are usable only with certain weapons (for example, rapiers or scimitars) and for that purpose, the Spiral Rapier would qualify.

 It doesn't strike me as unreasonable, to be honest, as it makes little difference with a normal rapier overall, but I wanted to be as impartial as can be in my ruling :)
Somatra
Slayer 494, 22 posts
Sun 4 Feb 2018
at 20:27
  • [deleted]
  • msg #296

Re: OOC Discussion 8

This message was deleted by the player at 20:29, Sun 04 Feb 2018.
Vry
Sorcerer 3,076, 490 posts
Advanced Gnome
Shadow's Caress
Mon 5 Feb 2018
at 23:00
  • msg #297

Re: OOC Discussion 8

How about them Eagles!!
Madam Opal
Witch 1,014, 614 posts
Ratfolk Witch
Shadow's Caress
Tue 6 Feb 2018
at 15:30
  • msg #298

Re: OOC Discussion 8

So yeah, guys, I forgot I built Opal to be pretty much the optimum monster hunt companion. Cause like, she has ranks in all the knowledges and brings a plethora of debuffs to the table.

Take her on monster hunts. You'll know what you're dealing with a vast majority of the time and she'll debuff the heck out of the opposition.
Brakt
Brawler 2,929, 595 posts
Ogre Brawler
The Order
Thu 8 Feb 2018
at 00:34
  • msg #299

Re: OOC Discussion 8

So.

Brakt and Lyn are planning a monster hunt once this nightmare of a championship is over with. We'd love to encourage anyone else interested to let us know so that we can start planning.

We'll of course need a referee and Monster as well if anyone would like to volunteer.
Vry
Sorcerer 3,076, 493 posts
Advanced Gnome
Shadow's Caress
Thu 8 Feb 2018
at 05:15
  • msg #300

Re: OOC Discussion 8

Vry is planning for anything that will give her wins (or losses) on the score board :)
Ugrim
Barbarian 1,868, 530 posts
Adv. Orc Barbar/Fighter
Shadow's Caress
Fri 9 Feb 2018
at 06:05
  • msg #301

Re: OOC Discussion 8

Ugrim has caught wind that there may in fact be a Barbarian powerhouse he has to put in his place. Bruhli, that wouldn't happen to be you, would it? ;)
Lyn
Magus 1,412, 85 posts
Elf Magus
The Order
Fri 9 Feb 2018
at 07:25
  • msg #302

Re: OOC Discussion 8

I wasn't expecting that...

All right, now that Bruhli laid down the hurt, who else wants to fight the little Magus?
Vry
Sorcerer 3,076, 494 posts
Advanced Gnome
Shadow's Caress
Fri 9 Feb 2018
at 07:31
  • msg #303

Re: OOC Discussion 8

*wish I had an alt* :(
Bruhli
Kinetibarian 1,220, 337 posts
Suli Kineticist/Barbarian
Fri 9 Feb 2018
at 14:32
  • msg #304

Re: OOC Discussion 8

In reply to Ugrim (msg # 301):

Depends who's asking puny orc.
Ugrim
Barbarian 1,868, 531 posts
Adv. Orc Barbar/Fighter
Shadow's Caress
Fri 9 Feb 2018
at 15:21
  • msg #305

Re: OOC Discussion 8

In reply to Bruhli (msg # 304):

Them's fightin words.
Vry
Sorcerer 3,076, 496 posts
Advanced Gnome
Shadow's Caress
Fri 9 Feb 2018
at 19:27
  • msg #306

Re: OOC Discussion 8

I'm gonna have to play Strange Aeons at one time or another... Anyone tried it? I hear its pretty great, apart from power balancing here and there as usual. Kinda wondering though, if it isn't impossible to actually create a spooky feeling in pathfinder. I mean, set up the feel with music and immersion and all... Then have a 10 round combat as the players roll 1s, 2s and 3s to hit on their attacks forever - feel are all gone! Until the next corridor, which is spooky... for 10 feet, then you open a door, break out the dice and rules discussions, and roll for initiative!
Latro Dectus
Antipaladin 3,151, 1525 posts
Drow N. Antipaladin
Shadow's Caress
Sat 10 Feb 2018
at 06:24
  • msg #307

Re: OOC Discussion 8

you guys! check this out!

quote:
Customization
You can now customize one item, feat, or spell with GM approval (not ref). If it is an item and you use the item creation rules exactly, you'll automatically be approved. You must pay full BP for the item if you don't have the appropriate crafting feats or skills. At 10,000, you can customize a second thing and at 25,000 a third, and so on and so forth. Any custom things you create will be added to the arena rules available for everyone who can afford it, so be wary what you create. Class or race-specific things will not be authorized.

Brakt
Brawler 2,929, 596 posts
Ogre Brawler
The Order
Sat 10 Feb 2018
at 08:09
  • msg #308

Re: OOC Discussion 8

How did I miss that?!

Still... I think my 4000GP Cloak of continuous Enlarge Person won't get approved somehow lol.
Boadicea
Fighter 2,078, 951 posts
Advanced Human Fighter
Sat 10 Feb 2018
at 08:11
  • msg #309

Re: OOC Discussion 8

In reply to Brakt (msg # 308):

Just take the template... Or both :)
Latro Dectus
Antipaladin 3,151, 1526 posts
Drow N. Antipaladin
Shadow's Caress
Sat 10 Feb 2018
at 14:23
  • msg #310

Re: OOC Discussion 8

In reply to Brakt (msg # 308):

not at 4000 GP its not.

the cost of a continuous cloak of enlarge person would be 1 (spell level) x 1 (minimum caster level) x 2k x 4 (because enlarge person has a duration measured in rounds) for a total cost of 8k gold.

It's by the book and its not class or race specific so it should be fine. The only downside is that none of us will have to submit something like that and we can just buy it (or craft it) without using our own request for it's inclusion. Is that a price you're willing to pay, my ogery friend? especially when Ugrim is a person that would more than certainly buy such a cloak?
This message was last edited by the player at 14:26, Sat 10 Feb 2018.
Brakt
Brawler 2,929, 597 posts
Ogre Brawler
The Order
Sun 11 Feb 2018
at 08:56
  • msg #311

Re: OOC Discussion 8

Actually. Enlarge Person is measured in minutes not rounds, so it is 4000.

Doesn't matter anyway, can't do anything till I get to 5k bp
Ankou
Druid 1,748, 478 posts
Oread Druid
Thaumaturgical Alliance
Sun 11 Feb 2018
at 09:15
  • msg #312

Re: OOC Discussion 8

Who wants a one on one with Ankou?
Or alternatively I could ref.
Or take on a few 1000ers in a Juggernaut.
Latro Dectus
Antipaladin 3,151, 1527 posts
Drow N. Antipaladin
Shadow's Caress
Sun 11 Feb 2018
at 09:51
  • msg #313

Re: OOC Discussion 8

In reply to Brakt (msg # 311):

yup, looks like you're right about that. I totally misread minutes as rounds.
Vry
Sorcerer 3,076, 500 posts
Advanced Gnome
Shadow's Caress
Sun 11 Feb 2018
at 20:34
  • msg #314

Re: OOC Discussion 8

Anyone wanna summarize what has actually happened in the championship so far? :p
Lyn
Magus 1,615, 87 posts
Elf Magus
The Order
Mon 12 Feb 2018
at 01:26
  • msg #315

Re: OOC Discussion 8

I'm up for a match with Ankou, if anyone wants to ref?
Latro Dectus
Antipaladin 3,151, 1528 posts
Drow N. Antipaladin
Shadow's Caress
Mon 12 Feb 2018
at 16:34
  • msg #316

Re: OOC Discussion 8

In reply to Vry (msg # 314):

Shinanigans
GM Arkrim
GM, 6405 posts
Game Master
Wed 14 Feb 2018
at 04:04
  • msg #317

Re: OOC Discussion 8

PSA

This most recent championship holds the new record for most number of posts in a match.

Previous record holder was Championship #8: Calithros vs. Hiro vs. Olmar vs. Demon at 304 posts.
Josep Gavinho
Wizard 1,987, 1259 posts
Human Wizard
TA - 1,687 BP
Wed 14 Feb 2018
at 11:14
  • msg #318

Re: OOC Discussion 8

Previously, on Battle For the Belt:

A mighty ogre stepped out in the open, was a smashed and buried in two swift rounds, everyone has been very cautious and quiet ever since...
Vry
Sorcerer 3,076, 506 posts
Advanced Gnome
Shadow's Caress
Wed 14 Feb 2018
at 11:16
  • msg #319

Re: OOC Discussion 8

Haha! It’s as I thought then... :p
Brakt
Brawler 2,929, 598 posts
Ogre Brawler
The Order
Thu 15 Feb 2018
at 00:03
  • msg #320

Re: OOC Discussion 8

Stealth was never an ogre's strong suit lol
Lyn
Magus 1,615, 88 posts
Elf Magus
The Order
Thu 15 Feb 2018
at 05:27
  • msg #321

Re: OOC Discussion 8

Just a reminder I'm pacing around looking for something to do while waiting for this championship to finish. :)
Ankou
Druid 1,748, 479 posts
Oread Druid
Thaumaturgical Alliance
Thu 15 Feb 2018
at 07:54
  • msg #322

Re: OOC Discussion 8

1v1, small colosseum, everything goes?
Lyn
Magus 1,615, 89 posts
Elf Magus
The Order
Thu 15 Feb 2018
at 08:46
  • msg #323

Re: OOC Discussion 8

Sounds like a plan to me :)

Any refs?
Brakt
Brawler 2,929, 599 posts
Ogre Brawler
The Order
Sat 17 Feb 2018
at 03:45
  • msg #324

Re: OOC Discussion 8

No one wants free BP?
Latro Dectus
Antipaladin 3,151, 1531 posts
Drow N. Antipaladin
Shadow's Caress
Sat 17 Feb 2018
at 06:38
  • msg #325

Re: OOC Discussion 8

Both Opal and Latro are tied up in a match and I don't want Ugrim being in charge of something rules based while that is happening. :P
Vry
Sorcerer 3,076, 512 posts
Advanced Gnome
Shadow's Caress
Sat 17 Feb 2018
at 17:36
  • msg #326

Re: OOC Discussion 8

So much shenanigans!!!
Bruhli
Kinetibarian 1,690, 339 posts
Suli Kineticist/Barbarian
Sat 17 Feb 2018
at 17:36
  • msg #327

Re: OOC Discussion 8

Where is Ugrim?  Bruhli is looking for a fight
Maelstrom
Monk 1,627, 407 posts
Human Monk
SotVD
Sat 17 Feb 2018
at 17:44
  • msg #328

Re: OOC Discussion 8

In reply to Lyn (msg # 323):

Mighty Maelstrom will be your ref!
Lyn
Magus 1,615, 90 posts
Elf Magus
The Order
Sun 18 Feb 2018
at 05:13
  • msg #329

Re: OOC Discussion 8

Thanks Mael!

How's this Ankou? Fill your details and post?

  Match Type: PvP
BP/Hero Limit: No Limit BP / standard 3 hero point limit
      Referee: Maelstrom
Participant 1: Lyn, Elf, Magus (13)
Participant 2: Ankou, ???
          Map: Small Coliseum
     Lighting: Standard
      Terrain: Standard
        Walls: Standard
         Prep: 1 prep round
       Extras: No extras.
Ugrim
Barbarian 1,868, 532 posts
Adv. Orc Barbar/Fighter
Shadow's Caress
Sun 18 Feb 2018
at 06:47
  • msg #330

Re: OOC Discussion 8

In reply to Bruhli (msg # 327):

I'm doing a complete overhaul of Ugrim right now. He may not even be a barbarian by the time i'm done with him but that doesn't mean he's still not going to be unfathomably strong. :P
Ankou
Druid 1,748, 480 posts
Oread Druid
Thaumaturgical Alliance
Sun 18 Feb 2018
at 11:49
  • msg #331

Re: OOC Discussion 8

Sounds good to me !
Oread Druid 14 btw.
Vry
Sorcerer 3,076, 515 posts
Advanced Gnome
Shadow's Caress
Mon 19 Feb 2018
at 14:33
  • msg #332

Re: OOC Discussion 8

Latro:
as Brakt said.

Bah! One shouldn’t join the guild of evil expecting to be recognized as somebody within it, but it still hurts!
Latro Dectus
Antipaladin 3,151, 1533 posts
Drow N. Antipaladin
Shadow's Caress
Mon 19 Feb 2018
at 14:43
  • msg #333

Re: OOC Discussion 8

In reply to Vry (msg # 332):

Lol, sorry Vry. idk why i was thinking of Brakt when writing that. subconscious tendencies towards destroying other guild leaders i suppose.
Vry
Sorcerer 3,076, 517 posts
Advanced Gnome
Shadow's Caress
Mon 19 Feb 2018
at 17:52
  • msg #334

Re: OOC Discussion 8

Ah, I sympathize with that desire! We really should show that new guild where the closet is supposed to be placed, as we say in Sweden. If they don't understand quite what that means, they will understand after Vry & Taff led by their guild master have shown them!

Also, don't think I've missed the Shadow's Caress incitement for within-guild battles! I'm coming for you, sooner or later! ;)
Latro Dectus
Antipaladin 3,151, 1535 posts
Drow N. Antipaladin
Shadow's Caress
Mon 19 Feb 2018
at 17:55
  • msg #335

Re: OOC Discussion 8

In reply to Vry (msg # 334):

I welcome the challenge and will be more than happy to show you where the closets are placed.
Vry
Sorcerer 3,076, 518 posts
Advanced Gnome
Shadow's Caress
Mon 19 Feb 2018
at 17:59
  • msg #336

Re: OOC Discussion 8

Lol :D
Brakt
Brawler 2,929, 600 posts
Ogre Brawler
The Order
Mon 19 Feb 2018
at 23:59
  • msg #337

Re: OOC Discussion 8

Show the new guild? What have you guys got against Freaks and Geeks anyway? :O

Yeah that's right Tina, I see you hiding there. :P
Vry
Sorcerer 3,076, 524 posts
Advanced Gnome
Shadow's Caress
Thu 22 Feb 2018
at 21:06
  • msg #338

Re: OOC Discussion 8

The monster hunt with 7 combatants on the field is up to a whooping 0,3 attacks per round! ;D
Josep Gavinho
Wizard 1,987, 1269 posts
Human Wizard
TA - 1,687 BP
Thu 22 Feb 2018
at 21:42
  • msg #339

Re: OOC Discussion 8

 Battle for the Belt has had a rather large number of attacks, with an average of 3.2 damage per attack.
Haran Madar
Sorcerer 1,121, 291 posts
Human Sorcerer
Fri 23 Feb 2018
at 03:22
  • msg #340

Re: OOC Discussion 8

In reply to Josep Gavinho (msg # 339):

I'll bump our average up if you'll let me.
Jayce the Tamer
Summoner 1,009, 300 posts
Human Summoner
Fri 23 Feb 2018
at 10:29
  • msg #341

Re: OOC Discussion 8

Oh wow, Arkrim didn't delete me. Hello everyone. I've not logged into rpol in a very long time. I've been itching to play some Pathfinder Arena. I'll be perusing the rules for a few days and then I'd like to fight someone. Hehe.

Hello Arkrim, and everyone who may be from my era.
Brakt
Brawler 2,929, 601 posts
Ogre Brawler
The Order
Fri 23 Feb 2018
at 10:32
  • msg #342

Re: OOC Discussion 8

Welcome Back Jayce!

Lyn and Ankou should be done by the time you're caught up and rebuilt, so let us know and someone will find a match for you :)
Latro Dectus
Antipaladin 3,151, 1537 posts
Drow N. Antipaladin
Shadow's Caress
Fri 23 Feb 2018
at 10:37
  • msg #343

Re: OOC Discussion 8

In reply to Jayce the Tamer (msg # 341):

ah, jayce, welcome back. The arena has missed you.
Boadicea
Fighter 2,078, 969 posts
Advanced Human Fighter
Sat 24 Feb 2018
at 12:16
  • msg #344

Re: OOC Discussion 8

Here you go Ankou


quote:
Hidden But Still On the Map (Optional Rule): Hiding characters still reveal their position on the map during PvP. However, if an attacker fails to pinpoint their location through means other than the map, then they improve their current cover benefits against that foe by two steps to a max of total cover (no cover -> partial cover -> cover -> improved cover -> total cover). This is in addition to concealment miss chances that remain in place should their foe find them until the start of their next turn. If underwater (or suffering a similar revealing condition, see above) they increase it by only 1 step. Because of this rule, spread effects can't negate your cover. So fireballing an invisible character at point blank if the caster didn't know where the target was would be as follows: 50% miss chance for an autosuccessful save, normal Reflex saving throw if miss chance hits with +4 cover bonus, treated as having Evasion. So you'd have to be unlucky on the miss chance AND saving throw to get damaged by such an attack while invisible. However, if the cast succeeded on a Perception check, the target would not get the cover benefits
.
Ankou
Druid 1,748, 501 posts
Oread Druid
Thaumaturgical Alliance
Sat 24 Feb 2018
at 16:53
  • msg #345

Re: OOC Discussion 8

Thanks Boa.
I used the search tool but didn’t find that bit.
Maybe I was drunk. I’ll blame chrome though.
Lyn
Magus 1,615, 105 posts
Elf Magus
The Order
Sun 25 Feb 2018
at 05:56
  • msg #346

Re: OOC Discussion 8

Well...

That went better then/not as expected. :O
This message was last edited by the player at 22:41, Sun 25 Feb 2018.
Vry
Sorcerer 3,076, 531 posts
Advanced Gnome
Shadow's Caress
Sun 25 Feb 2018
at 08:56
  • msg #347

Re: OOC Discussion 8

Brakt doesn’t seem to be the record holder:
https://sites.google.com/site/...board/hall-of-heroes
Brakt
Brawler 2,929, 602 posts
Ogre Brawler
The Order
Sun 25 Feb 2018
at 10:38
  • msg #348

Re: OOC Discussion 8

Yeah, I know :(

I did over 200 damage in one round to Boad in our last match though, I just guess it wasn't updated.
Vry
Sorcerer 3,076, 532 posts
Advanced Gnome
Shadow's Caress
Sun 25 Feb 2018
at 12:03
  • msg #349

Re: OOC Discussion 8

There hasn’t been any new records in a long time... but maybe you didn’t report it properly?
Jayce the Tamer
Summoner 1,009, 301 posts
Human Summoner
Mon 26 Feb 2018
at 00:47
  • msg #350

Re: OOC Discussion 8

I'm ready to fight someone, whenever someone is available. If for some reason the match takes a long time, during Spring Break (sometime in here anyway, March 09-17th) I'll be taking my family on vacation. So, I'll slow down there for a bit.
Lyn
Magus 1,906, 110 posts
Elf Magus
The Order
Wed 28 Feb 2018
at 01:41
  • msg #351

Re: OOC Discussion 8

Grunyar... Your personalities are showing :)

I'm not ready for a fight yet, but I'll be happy to ref someone else.
Ankou
Druid 2,286, 507 posts
Oread Druid
Thaumaturgical Alliance
Wed 28 Feb 2018
at 08:22
  • msg #352

Re: OOC Discussion 8

In reply to Jayce the Tamer (msg # 350):
 I’ll fight you!
 Maybe bring a buddy to even the odds?
 Or not and make your reward all the juicier;)
 Lyn, would you ref?
Jayce the Tamer
Summoner 1,009, 302 posts
Human Summoner
Wed 28 Feb 2018
at 08:24
  • msg #353

Re: OOC Discussion 8

In reply to Ankou (msg # 352):

Nah, duels get paid more. Even if I lose 381 BP. But I always go for the win.
This message was last edited by the player at 08:26, Wed 28 Feb 2018.
Ankou
Druid 2,286, 508 posts
Oread Druid
Thaumaturgical Alliance
Wed 28 Feb 2018
at 08:35
  • msg #354

Re: OOC Discussion 8

Since you’re the challenger here, I’ll let you pick the arena then.
Any special conditions ?
I would insist on Hidden on the Map if that’s what ok with you.
I don’t have time for an other cat and mouse game as in Battle for the Belt.
Jayce the Tamer
Summoner 1,009, 303 posts
Human Summoner
Wed 28 Feb 2018
at 08:50
  • msg #355

Re: OOC Discussion 8

In reply to Ankou (msg # 354):

Same one you just used, small colosseum. First game in like over a year, Don't want to deal with crazy rules. Or bridges, ladders, and stairs. If you want to toss me a handicap, you can let me go first. But I'm pretty dangerous when I get started so I would probably not do that.

1 prep.
Lyn
Magus 1,906, 111 posts
Elf Magus
The Order
Wed 28 Feb 2018
at 09:16
  • msg #356

Re: OOC Discussion 8

I'm down to ref, sure :)
Ankou
Druid 2,286, 509 posts
Oread Druid
Thaumaturgical Alliance
Wed 28 Feb 2018
at 09:49
  • msg #357

Re: OOC Discussion 8

Initiative isn’t the Ankou’s strongest suit, so you may well have your chance there ;)

Do you want to issue the challenge?
I’m Oread Druid 14
Jayce the Tamer
Summoner 1,009, 304 posts
Human Summoner
Wed 28 Feb 2018
at 09:52
  • msg #358

Re: OOC Discussion 8

Are you still level 14? ignore. Challenge posted.

Question for GM Arkrim:

If Lyn accepts ref duty but Brakt posts the accept, as characters are owned by same player is that okay or redo whole thing?

If others know the answer already, please inform me. Thanks.
This message was last edited by the player at 12:29, Wed 28 Feb 2018.
Vry
Sorcerer 3,076, 541 posts
Advanced Gnome
Shadow's Caress
Wed 28 Feb 2018
at 12:53
  • msg #359

Re: OOC Discussion 8

Jayce the Tamer:
If Lyn accepts ref duty but Brakt posts the accept, as characters are owned by same player is that okay or redo whole thing?

LOL, I feel like we’ve seen this happen before! :D
(Don’t know the answer to your question though, I think it’s up to GM mood of the day etc, could probably go either way.)
Brakt
Brawler 2,929, 604 posts
Ogre Brawler
The Order
Wed 28 Feb 2018
at 13:00
  • msg #360

Re: OOC Discussion 8

setdrfyvgbhjklm,;

I feel like we're looking at a redo anyway, since Jayce didn't include human in the initial post, but... I fixed that and changed the character, so... Oops!
Ankou
Druid 2,286, 511 posts
Oread Druid
Thaumaturgical Alliance
Wed 28 Feb 2018
at 15:58
  • msg #361

Re: OOC Discussion 8

I’m personnaly find with the omission of human (or any other race really) — if it makes any difference.

I’m also amused by Brakt/Lyn’s antics ;)
GM Arkrim
GM, 6411 posts
Game Master
Thu 1 Mar 2018
at 02:07
  • msg #362

Re: OOC Discussion 8

When people mess up a simple challenge post...


Brakt
Brawler 2,929, 605 posts
Ogre Brawler
The Order
Thu 1 Mar 2018
at 08:07
  • msg #363

Re: OOC Discussion 8

When people can't even post with the right character '/wrist
Lyn
Magus 1,906, 113 posts
Elf Magus
The Order
Thu 1 Mar 2018
at 08:35
  • msg #364

Re: OOC Discussion 8

Can I just say, that these matches need to hurry up and finish? Boad and Grunyar and Brakt and Lyn have some monsters to kill.
Jayce the Tamer
Summoner 1,009, 309 posts
Human Summoner
Thu 1 Mar 2018
at 09:15
  • msg #365

Re: OOC Discussion 8

In reply to Lyn (msg # 364):

LOL, ours just started today. Or not long ago.
Lyn
Magus 1,906, 114 posts
Elf Magus
The Order
Thu 1 Mar 2018
at 09:21
  • msg #366

Re: OOC Discussion 8

And will still be done before the Championship and Monster Hunt will be. :P
Latro Dectus
Antipaladin 3,151, 1542 posts
Drow N. Antipaladin
Shadow's Caress
Thu 1 Mar 2018
at 18:03
  • msg #367

Re: OOC Discussion 8

I still owe grunyar a 1v1. :P

side question: back in the old days when we had a second GM, she would run traditional dungeon crawl quests or Endurance battles against ever increasing challenging monsters.
Seeing as we have players voluntarily choosing to ref and play monsters now, would it be out of the question if we were allowed to offer those kinds of things as well?

theres a part of me that wants to tempt a bunch of people to delve into a dungeon to face horrors unknown.
This message was last edited by the player at 18:06, Thu 01 Mar 2018.
Josep Gavinho
Wizard 1,987, 1279 posts
Human Wizard
TA - 1,687 BP
Thu 1 Mar 2018
at 18:21
  • msg #368

Re: OOC Discussion 8

In reply to Latro Dectus (msg # 367):
 Yeah, I miss her too...

 Sorry Belt-Battlers, I didn’t get to post yesterday. Will definitely do it in the next 2-3h.
Brakt
Brawler 2,929, 606 posts
Ogre Brawler
The Order
Fri 2 Mar 2018
at 08:32
  • msg #369

Re: OOC Discussion 8

So, just as a general question.

Say I'm planning to craft an Amulet of Mighty Fists. Do I need Craft: Jewelry to complete the item, or will Spellcraft work?

I've always though that if there was a specific craft skill, in this case Jewelry, use that skill. Spellcraft is there for items such as Boots or Cloaks which don't have a craft skill.

What are your thoughts?
Latro Dectus
Antipaladin 3,151, 1543 posts
Drow N. Antipaladin
Shadow's Caress
Fri 2 Mar 2018
at 08:54
  • msg #370

Re: OOC Discussion 8

Crafting wondrous items does say spellcraft or a relevant craft or profession skill is required to craft an item so i would just say spellcraft.
Jayce the Tamer
Summoner 1,009, 320 posts
Human Summoner
Fri 2 Mar 2018
at 14:55
  • msg #371

Re: OOC Discussion 8

Latro Dectus:
I still owe grunyar a 1v1. :P

side question: back in the old days when we had a second GM, she would run traditional dungeon crawl quests or Endurance battles against ever increasing challenging monsters.
Seeing as we have players voluntarily choosing to ref and play monsters now, would it be out of the question if we were allowed to offer those kinds of things as well?

theres a part of me that wants to tempt a bunch of people to delve into a dungeon to face horrors unknown.


I would also be willing to run endurance, monster and mini campaigns.

I think the option for endurance is still there as the survivor title for lasting until your CR in a survival is still available. So I'd say yes. Since Abram is an old character of mine, I kind of want to pick up GM Sehl's mini campaign. Chapter 2, as it were. I'd even be willing to run that haha.
Boadicea
Fighter 2,078, 978 posts
Advanced Human Fighter
Fri 2 Mar 2018
at 23:25
  • msg #372

Re: OOC Discussion 8

Looks like lots of Brakt and I aren't the only ones with identity crisis Josep's is showing :)
Brakt
Brawler 2,929, 607 posts
Ogre Brawler
The Order
Sat 3 Mar 2018
at 02:05
  • msg #373

Re: OOC Discussion 8

Makes me feel better, although...

Ankou has more strength then I do now :'( I need to do something about this.
Jayce the Tamer
Summoner 1,009, 333 posts
Human Summoner
Sat 3 Mar 2018
at 18:55
  • msg #374

Re: OOC Discussion 8

Josep and Ankou stealing all the twenties.
Ankou
Druid 2,286, 526 posts
Oread Druid
Thaumaturgical Alliance
Sat 3 Mar 2018
at 18:59
  • msg #375

Re: OOC Discussion 8

quote:
Ankou rolled 26 using 1d20+25 with rolls of 1.  Break Grapple.


 Well...
Vry
Sorcerer 3,076, 550 posts
Advanced Gnome
Shadow's Caress
Sat 3 Mar 2018
at 22:27
  • msg #376

OOC Discussion 8

That the fight for the belt is keeping an even pace with the OOC thread is actually giving the belt some additional weight. It’s not just about creating a character capable of defeating the champ, it’s also about having the stamina to keep up with all them posts!
Brakt
Brawler 2,929, 608 posts
Ogre Brawler
The Order
Sun 4 Mar 2018
at 12:42
  • msg #377

OOC Discussion 8

ZZZzzzzz

Will you guys do me a favour and kill someone else before I start rolling to stabilize? :P
Grunyar Fangblood
Summoner 3,236, 779 posts
Skinwalker Summoner
Sun 4 Mar 2018
at 16:54
  • msg #378

OOC Discussion 8

Ankou, fyi

quote:
If you are at less than 50% HP and at least 5 rounds have passed in the match, then you can yield the match to your opponent. If you attempt to yield before this, you forfeit instead.

Jayce the Tamer
Summoner 1,009, 336 posts
Human Summoner
Sun 4 Mar 2018
at 16:57
  • msg #379

OOC Discussion 8

In reply to Grunyar Fangblood (msg # 378):

I tjink he is just letting himself die having dropped to -14 hp.
Grunyar Fangblood
Summoner 3,236, 780 posts
Skinwalker Summoner
Sun 4 Mar 2018
at 17:04
  • msg #380

OOC Discussion 8

Don't think you can turn off immunities but that's between you guys and ref/GM no skin off my nose just figured I would point it out
Jayce the Tamer
Summoner 1,009, 337 posts
Human Summoner
Sun 4 Mar 2018
at 18:02
  • msg #381

OOC Discussion 8

quote:
Defeat and Victory
When all of your opponents are defeated (dead, dying, banished, petrified and/or unconscious for 3+ rounds in a row), you officially win the match. These rounds aren't played out if there is no way for your foes to recover within this time and if there is no ongoing damage on you. You lose if you are defeated. Diehard and Ferocity are exceptions and allow you to keep fighting normally while dying. If you are suffering ongoing damage or conditions at the end of a match, you must play out 3 rounds after the last round the last opponent standing acted before determining a win or loss (no need for initiative at that point). If you are defeated by an ongoing effect while all foes are defeated and no allies are up, it ends in a draw.


He is dying, -14 hp. If there is not a way for him to recover, he doesn't think there is as he stated, we do not play out the rounds.


Your rule is if he was still at 140 hp. Or so. Seems to me like everything is good.
Grunyar Fangblood
Summoner 3,236, 781 posts
Skinwalker Summoner
Sun 4 Mar 2018
at 20:19
  • msg #382

OOC Discussion 8

In reply to Jayce the Tamer (msg # 381):

Again I was just pointing out he could be making a mistake yielding without spending the few minutes to throw a post together.  By what he said (I know no specifics) he would be standing and able to fight not lying there dying big difference.

And again it's between your ref and GM no need to argue with me and I was not wanting an argument just trying to help
Ankou
Druid 2,286, 530 posts
Oread Druid
Thaumaturgical Alliance
Sun 4 Mar 2018
at 20:27
  • msg #383

OOC Discussion 8

Thanks Grunyar.

I certainly wouldn’t want to be considered less than the loser on a technicality ;)

I didn’t realise the fight had to be on for more than 5 rounds for the yield to be available.

I can go back and post something to that end.
Jayce the Tamer
Summoner 1,009, 339 posts
Human Summoner
Sun 4 Mar 2018
at 21:15
  • msg #384

OOC Discussion 8

Thank you for the match Ankou. Good looking out Grunyar.

I'm open for a new duel. Or if someone wants to ref/run a survival for me, that would be cool too.
This message was last edited by the player at 08:20, Mon 05 Mar 2018.
Ankou
Druid 2,454, 533 posts
Oread Druid
Thaumaturgical Alliance
Mon 5 Mar 2018
at 10:36
  • msg #385

OOC Discussion 8

I’m not sure about a survival, but I can ref for you.
Lyn maybe? Or Ugrim? Where’s Tina btw?
Ugrim
Barbarian 1,868, 533 posts
Adv. Orc Barbar/Fighter
Shadow's Caress
Mon 5 Mar 2018
at 10:46
  • msg #386

OOC Discussion 8

Ugrim is still locked in combat with the great beast of reformatting and optimization.
Jayce the Tamer
Summoner 1,771, 340 posts
Human Summoner
Mon 5 Mar 2018
at 11:29
  • msg #387

OOC Discussion 8

In reply to Ankou (msg # 385):

Everyone is tied up in something just about. Is it possible for you to ref and run something? Like we did before a year or so ago. Madam Opal reffed and ran a monster match. Sometime after that, I did as well for your other personality and Hiro. Then I did it again for Grunyar and Tinny Tina. Is that not allowed anymore?


But Ugrim, old friend, would you run a survival for me?
This message was last edited by the player at 11:29, Mon 05 Mar 2018.
Ugrim
Barbarian 1,868, 534 posts
Adv. Orc Barbar/Fighter
Shadow's Caress
Mon 5 Mar 2018
at 12:38
  • msg #388

OOC Discussion 8

In reply to Jayce the Tamer (msg # 387):

possibly. I'd need to read up on how survival matches work and figure out how they translate to a BP system cause last time we did those we were still on a system where consumables were used permanently and rewards were given in the form of Gp, XP, and items.
Ankou
Druid 2,454, 534 posts
Oread Druid
Thaumaturgical Alliance
Mon 5 Mar 2018
at 15:56
  • msg #389

OOC Discussion 8

Anyone else up for a quick 1on1 ?
I need Ankou to get to veteran status so I can test out my new spellcaster build ;)
Jayce the Tamer
Summoner 1,771, 341 posts
Human Summoner
Mon 5 Mar 2018
at 20:13
  • msg #390

OOC Discussion 8

In reply to Ankou (msg # 389):

If no takers soon, I'll duel you again. I got lucky last time, you could win this time. haha. Place correct weapon in lol.
Ankou
Druid 2,454, 535 posts
Oread Druid
Thaumaturgical Alliance
Mon 5 Mar 2018
at 21:34
  • msg #391

OOC Discussion 8

Sounds like a plan!!
I need to kill you before you summon all those big grappling birds ;)
Lyn
Magus 2,317, 121 posts
Elf Magus
The Order
Mon 5 Mar 2018
at 23:05
  • msg #392

OOC Discussion 8

I'd be up for a duel or to ref someone else, sure.

Need to figure a few things out buildwise but that should be done today
Lyn
Magus 2,317, 122 posts
Elf Magus
The Order
Tue 6 Mar 2018
at 09:00
  • msg #393

OOC Discussion 8

All right, I'm done. Anyone up for a match?
Jayce the Tamer
Summoner 1,771, 342 posts
Human Summoner
Tue 6 Mar 2018
at 15:40
  • msg #394

OOC Discussion 8

In reply to Lyn (msg # 393):

Let's dance you and I. Ankou can ref this time. Large Colosseum or small. hidden on the map.
Lyn
Magus 2,317, 123 posts
Elf Magus
The Order
Tue 6 Mar 2018
at 22:11
  • msg #395

OOC Discussion 8

I mean, summoners scare the shit out of me but sure.

Small colloseum? Post a challenge and I'll accept. Brakt can keep his nosey nose out of it.
Ankou
Druid 2,454, 536 posts
Oread Druid
Thaumaturgical Alliance
Tue 6 Mar 2018
at 22:44
  • msg #396

OOC Discussion 8

I’m fine to ref !

You could do something fun with islands or barracks.
Jayce the Tamer
Summoner 1,771, 343 posts
Human Summoner
Wed 7 Mar 2018
at 00:03
  • msg #397

Re: OOC Discussion 8

Lyn:
I mean, summoners scare the shit out of me but sure.

Small colloseum? Post a challenge and I'll accept. Brakt can keep his nosey nose out of it.

What level are you?
Lyn
Magus 2,317, 124 posts
Elf Magus
The Order
Wed 7 Mar 2018
at 00:09
  • msg #398

Re: OOC Discussion 8

Oops, my bad!

Elf Magus 14

And I mean, we could do something fun, but getting this over and done quick sounds good as well :) I've been waiting for Brakt to be done forever and don't want to get stuck waiting for Lyn instead lol!
Jayce the Tamer
Summoner 1,771, 345 posts
Human Summoner
Wed 7 Mar 2018
at 00:14
  • msg #399

Re: OOC Discussion 8

In reply to Lyn (msg # 398):

If I didn't disappear the first time, I would be closer to vet status. The second time I dropped off RPOL for over a year, I was lucky Arkrim didn't delete. So, yeah I'm looking for quick matches as well to get 10. I'm only at 4 now, this being 5.

I'll ref the fight between you and Ankou next to keep it fair if you both want to do that after.
Brakt
Brawler 2,929, 609 posts
Ogre Brawler
The Order
Wed 7 Mar 2018
at 02:30
  • msg #400

Re: OOC Discussion 8

I actually realised I had 1 fight away from Vet status before I left, but my fights hadn't been added up right somehow lol.

Got it now though, so now I've got 2 characters giving away free wins!

Maybe we can change that though... After this championship is over! :/
GM Arkrim
GM, 6417 posts
Game Master
Wed 7 Mar 2018
at 16:02
  • msg #401

Re: OOC Discussion 8

Jayce the Tamer:
In reply to Lyn (msg # 398):

If I didn't disappear the first time, I would be closer to vet status. The second time I dropped off RPOL for over a year, I was lucky Arkrim didn't delete. So, yeah I'm looking for quick matches as well to get 10. I'm only at 4 now, this being 5.

I'll ref the fight between you and Ankou next to keep it fair if you both want to do that after.

I used to wait 1 full year since last post. Nowadays I wait 1 full year since last LOG IN.

So long as you log in to RPOL at least once or twice a year, your character is safe.
Jayce the Tamer
Summoner 1,771, 347 posts
Human Summoner
Wed 7 Mar 2018
at 23:33
  • msg #402

Re: OOC Discussion 8

Ignore the dice roller, not even sure how I did that. Wrong game.....
Latro Dectus
Antipaladin 3,151, 1550 posts
Drow N. Antipaladin
Shadow's Caress
Thu 8 Mar 2018
at 11:11
  • msg #403

Re: OOC Discussion 8

Lyn:
Lyn is lawful good

>:D >:D >:D >:D >:D >:D >:D >:D >:D >:D >:D >:D
Jayce the Tamer
Summoner 1,771, 353 posts
Human Summoner
Thu 8 Mar 2018
at 11:29
  • msg #404

Re: OOC Discussion 8

Latro Dectus:
Lyn:
Lyn is lawful good

>:D >:D >:D >:D >:D >:D >:D >:D >:D >:D >:D >:D

I'm Neutral Good. ;) Wanna Duel Latro? Oh, you're stuck in a match for 5 more months? Let me know when you get out. Good Luck to you, Haran and Josep. Would say Brakt but looks like he is ded.
Brakt
Brawler 2,929, 610 posts
Ogre Brawler
The Order
Thu 8 Mar 2018
at 12:46
  • msg #405

Re: OOC Discussion 8

Oh, didn't I mention that The Order is Lawful Good, and as such every member will be good, unless some rogue decides they want to be LN.

Happy for you to practice some Smites on Brakt or Lyn since at this rate she'll be stronger then Brakt :O once this championship is over.

Also, since we're talking about it, and there's a few more people around. The Order is recruiting those who wish to pledge their life to the glory of the arena! Applications are on the noticeboard  at The Sidelines.
Lyn
Magus 2,317, 131 posts
Elf Magus
The Order
Fri 9 Mar 2018
at 07:45
  • msg #406

Re: OOC Discussion 8

Okay, I think that has to be the record now, barring shenanigans.

147 damage in 1 blow.

333 damage in 1 round.

Shame I keep building glass cannons who die when you poke them with a pointy stick :D
Brakt
Brawler 2,929, 612 posts
Ogre Brawler
The Order
Fri 9 Mar 2018
at 11:25
  • msg #407

Re: OOC Discussion 8

djlkdslfklds

All my planning fell apart because I forgot to change the default caster level of an item. :\

You know I won't be making that mistake again.
Jayce the Tamer
Summoner 1,771, 367 posts
Human Summoner
Fri 9 Mar 2018
at 11:36
  • msg #408

Re: OOC Discussion 8

In reply to Brakt (msg # 407):

I had a contingency plan in store for ifs and buts.

Aren't there feats you can take to use your caster level instead of the item's? Like Wand Mastery does(Magus Arcana but still). Nevermind, Wand Mastery allows you to use your INT for save DC. I'm sure there is something that does it though.
This message was last edited by the player at 11:42, Fri 09 Mar 2018.
Grunyar Fangblood
Summoner 3,236, 783 posts
Skinwalker Summoner
Fri 9 Mar 2018
at 11:57
  • msg #409

Re: OOC Discussion 8

Ankou I know it's not my battle but if Roc was summoned from summon good then the roc's alignment changes to NG...


edit:(don't mind my idiocy, was tired when I read the thread and some how missed why the SR was rolled)
This message was last edited by the player at 15:07, Fri 09 Mar 2018.
Jayce the Tamer
Summoner 1,771, 369 posts
Human Summoner
Fri 9 Mar 2018
at 11:59
  • msg #410

Re: OOC Discussion 8

In reply to Grunyar Fangblood (msg # 409):

It also has the Celestial Template. Should pretty much be automatic neutral good no?
Grunyar Fangblood
Summoner 3,236, 784 posts
Skinwalker Summoner
Fri 9 Mar 2018
at 12:02
  • msg #411

Re: OOC Discussion 8

You would think but no adding celestial template does not change alignment unless I missed something in template
Grunyar Fangblood
Summoner 3,236, 785 posts
Skinwalker Summoner
Fri 9 Mar 2018
at 12:09
  • msg #412

Re: OOC Discussion 8

Summon monster takes care of it

quote:
Creatures marked with an “*” always have an alignment that matches yours, regardless of their usual alignment. Summoning these creatures makes the summoning spell’s type match your alignment

Jayce the Tamer
Summoner 1,771, 371 posts
Human Summoner
Fri 9 Mar 2018
at 12:21
  • msg #413

Re: OOC Discussion 8

In reply to Grunyar Fangblood (msg # 412):

AH you're right. I'm still trying to figure out how Lyn Cast Protection from Good. It will bug me until I figure it out.
Grunyar Fangblood
Summoner 3,236, 786 posts
Skinwalker Summoner
Fri 9 Mar 2018
at 15:10
  • msg #414

Re: OOC Discussion 8

I was exploring an eidolon build requires some gear, with us able to come in the arena with it summoned can it have armor on and weapons or must I carry them into the arena?
Vry
Sorcerer 3,076, 555 posts
Advanced Gnome
Shadow's Caress
Fri 9 Mar 2018
at 15:16
  • msg #415

Re: OOC Discussion 8

In reply to Grunyar Fangblood (msg # 414):

An eidolon cannot wear armor of any kind, as the armor interferes with the summoner’s connection to the eidolon.


Dunno if you guys know of some trick to bypass this though.
Jayce the Tamer
Summoner 1,771, 373 posts
Human Summoner
Fri 9 Mar 2018
at 15:19
  • msg #416

Re: OOC Discussion 8

Grunyar Fangblood:
I was exploring an eidolon build requires some gear, with us able to come in the arena with it summoned can it have armor on and weapons or must I carry them into the arena?

 Weapons yes, armor no. Mage armor or bracers of armor yes.

Kecil used a 10 armed wakazashi, build remeber?
Grunyar Fangblood
Summoner 3,236, 787 posts
Skinwalker Summoner
Fri 9 Mar 2018
at 15:29
  • msg #417

Re: OOC Discussion 8

not trying to give away my build to much I just chose somethings randomly guess i should have chose better, but that answers my question
Ankou
Druid 2,454, 544 posts
Oread Druid
Thaumaturgical Alliance
Fri 9 Mar 2018
at 17:05
  • msg #418

Re: OOC Discussion 8

Jayce the Tamer:
AH you're right. I'm still trying to figure out how Lyn Cast Protection from Good. It will bug me until I figure it out.

And it’s so easy too!!
Vry
Sorcerer 3,076, 556 posts
Advanced Gnome
Shadow's Caress
Fri 9 Mar 2018
at 19:23
  • msg #419

Re: OOC Discussion 8

She did drink a potion with a duration as a CL1 Protection from...
Ankou
Druid 2,454, 546 posts
Oread Druid
Thaumaturgical Alliance
Fri 9 Mar 2018
at 19:40
  • msg #420

Re: OOC Discussion 8

Bingo ;) It was very clearly stated in the first post, too!
Jayce the Tamer
Summoner 1,771, 374 posts
Human Summoner
Fri 9 Mar 2018
at 20:05
  • msg #421

Re: OOC Discussion 8

In reply to Ankou (msg # 420):

Which is illegal. Arkrim's rule clearly states cannot USE not cannot CAST. which would supersede build ideas. Either way, match is over.
Ankou
Druid 2,454, 547 posts
Oread Druid
Thaumaturgical Alliance
Fri 9 Mar 2018
at 21:18
  • msg #422

Re: OOC Discussion 8

Yeah, he was not using a spell, rather drinking a potion though.
I see your point, but I doubt that was the rule as intended.
The wording is a bit vague though, worth a clarification.
Jayce the Tamer
Summoner 1,771, 375 posts
Human Summoner
Fri 9 Mar 2018
at 21:35
  • msg #423

Re: OOC Discussion 8

Lyn, Ankou do you two want me to ref a fight for the both of you? I don't mind. I appreciate the two of you reffing for me. Thanks a bunch.
Ankou
Druid 2,454, 548 posts
Oread Druid
Thaumaturgical Alliance
Fri 9 Mar 2018
at 22:30
  • msg #424

Re: OOC Discussion 8

For sure ! Large Colosseum?
Lyn
Magus 2,612, 141 posts
Elf Magus
The Order
Sat 10 Mar 2018
at 05:02
  • msg #425

Re: OOC Discussion 8

Sure, works for me. Hidden on the map etc etc?  Maybe no burrowing though, I don't trust your shenanigans :D

Elf Magus 14 still.
Brakt
Brawler 2,929, 613 posts
Ogre Brawler
The Order
Sat 10 Mar 2018
at 05:22
  • msg #426

Re: OOC Discussion 8

Almost free!

Who ever would of thought that Haran would be the last one standing though?

Now just need to wait for the monster hunt to finish and we can have ourselves another monster hunt! Might be a while yet though.

Latro, once we're free, want to give those smites a test drive and see if those pesky casters weren't in the way, how things would of ended up?
Latro Dectus
Antipaladin 3,151, 1554 posts
Drow N. Antipaladin
Shadow's Caress
Sat 10 Mar 2018
at 08:06
  • msg #427

Re: OOC Discussion 8

In reply to Brakt (msg # 426):

After my promised match against grunyar.
Brakt
Brawler 2,929, 614 posts
Ogre Brawler
The Order
Sat 10 Mar 2018
at 08:10
  • msg #428

Re: OOC Discussion 8

Please, like Grunyar is going to be ready by the time we are :P

I still owe Grunyar and Boad a monster hunt when they're free.
Grunyar Fangblood
Summoner 3,236, 788 posts
Skinwalker Summoner
Sat 10 Mar 2018
at 08:15
  • msg #429

Re: OOC Discussion 8

In reply to Latro Dectus (msg # 427):

Hopefully these monster hunters hurry up, can shelf our battle till I hit veteran so I can take the belt away from you LOL

Only 3 battles away that will be my targeted focus once the monster hunters is over
This message was last edited by the player at 08:36, Sat 10 Mar 2018.
Ankou
Druid 2,965, 549 posts
Oread Druid
Thaumaturgical Alliance
Sat 10 Mar 2018
at 11:08
  • msg #430

Re: OOC Discussion 8

Lyn:
Sure, works for me. Hidden on the map etc etc?  Maybe no burrowing though, I don't trust your shenanigans :D

Elf Magus 14 still.

And here I was thinking of getting that Oread-only feat chain that grants Earth Glide!!

All right then...
Lyn
Magus 2,612, 143 posts
Elf Magus
The Order
Sat 10 Mar 2018
at 11:46
  • msg #431

Re: OOC Discussion 8

Will be interesting to see what you've changed. :O
Ankou
Druid 2,965, 551 posts
Oread Druid
Thaumaturgical Alliance
Sat 10 Mar 2018
at 12:02
  • msg #432

Re: OOC Discussion 8

Lyn:
Lyn accepts once more, determined to bring glory to The Order.

OOC: I have to win one of these times, right?


I'd rather you tried that against Jayce ;)
Ankou
Druid 2,965, 552 posts
Oread Druid
Thaumaturgical Alliance
Sat 10 Mar 2018
at 12:03
  • msg #433

Re: OOC Discussion 8

Lyn:
Will be interesting to see what you've changed. :O

Almost nothing! Just invested in 4 rings of energy resistance...
Some of them are on my toes ;)
Latro Dectus
Antipaladin 3,151, 1555 posts
Drow N. Antipaladin
Shadow's Caress
Sat 10 Mar 2018
at 14:21
  • msg #434

Re: OOC Discussion 8

In reply to Grunyar Fangblood (msg # 429):

Alas, Latro has finally fallen in battle so no belt battle for you from me currently. But i need to do battle with people so i can start stock piling Hero Points. I literally only had one to spend for that whole match.
Grunyar Fangblood
Summoner 3,236, 789 posts
Skinwalker Summoner
Sat 10 Mar 2018
at 14:25
  • msg #435

Re: OOC Discussion 8

In reply to Latro Dectus (msg # 434):

Ok, I will enjoy being the first to destroy the Lich :)
Josep Gavinho
Wizard 1,987, 1301 posts
Human Wizard
Thaumaturgical Alliance
Sat 10 Mar 2018
at 17:32
  • msg #436

Re: OOC Discussion 8

I'd like to see a Free-For-All between Grunyar, Jayce, Kecil and Thraxis.
We may need to invent a larger colosseum though :)
Jayce the Tamer
Summoner 2,543, 377 posts
Human Summoner
Sat 10 Mar 2018
at 17:34
  • msg #437

Re: OOC Discussion 8

Except two of us haven't logged in, in a minute. Maybe one day. You seem to be a summoner as well Mr Earth Elemental.
Grunyar Fangblood
Summoner 3,236, 790 posts
Skinwalker Summoner
Sat 10 Mar 2018
at 17:53
  • msg #438

Re: OOC Discussion 8

In reply to Josep Gavinho (msg # 436):

That would be fun, I think I will be moving away from the master summoner and testing other options
Latro Dectus
Antipaladin 3,151, 1557 posts
Drow N. Antipaladin
Shadow's Caress
Sat 10 Mar 2018
at 19:32
  • msg #439

Re: OOC Discussion 8

In reply to Grunyar Fangblood (msg # 435):

Hah. lich.

I've found something much better than that.
Grunyar Fangblood
Summoner 3,236, 791 posts
Skinwalker Summoner
Sat 10 Mar 2018
at 20:06
  • msg #440

Re: OOC Discussion 8

In reply to Latro Dectus (msg # 439):

Lol, our fight will be in bright sunlight ;)
Latro Dectus
Antipaladin 3,151, 1558 posts
Drow N. Antipaladin
Shadow's Caress
Sat 10 Mar 2018
at 20:11
  • msg #441

Re: OOC Discussion 8

In reply to Grunyar Fangblood (msg # 440):

so what are you planning to give me for this clear handicap in your favor?
Latro Dectus
Antipaladin 3,151, 1558 posts
Drow N. Antipaladin
Shadow's Caress
Sat 10 Mar 2018
at 20:11
  • msg #441

Re: OOC Discussion 8

In reply to Grunyar Fangblood (msg # 440):

so what are you planning to give me for this clear handicap in your favor?
Latro Dectus
Antipaladin 3,151, 1558 posts
Drow N. Antipaladin
Shadow's Caress
Sat 10 Mar 2018
at 20:11
  • msg #441

Re: OOC Discussion 8

In reply to Grunyar Fangblood (msg # 440):

so what are you planning to give me for this clear handicap in your favor?
Jayce the Tamer
Summoner 2,543, 378 posts
Human Summoner
Sat 10 Mar 2018
at 20:13
  • msg #442

Re: OOC Discussion 8

Obvious, latro wants something in exchange.
Grunyar Fangblood
Summoner 3,236, 792 posts
Skinwalker Summoner
Sat 10 Mar 2018
at 20:13
  • msg #443

Re: OOC Discussion 8

In reply to Latro Dectus (msg # 441):

Why nothing you are the great and powerful Latro (insert undead type)...and (insert words of great flattery)... LOL
Latro Dectus
Antipaladin 3,151, 1561 posts
Drow N. Antipaladin
Shadow's Caress
Sat 10 Mar 2018
at 20:14
  • msg #444

Re: OOC Discussion 8

blasted lagging internet
Jayce the Tamer
Summoner 2,543, 379 posts
Human Summoner
Sun 11 Mar 2018
at 01:55
  • msg #445

Re: OOC Discussion 8

Duel 220, has not been closed.
Latro Dectus
Antipaladin 3,151, 1564 posts
Drow N. Antipaladin
Shadow's Caress
Sun 11 Mar 2018
at 02:50
  • msg #446

Re: OOC Discussion 8

In reply to Grunyar Fangblood (msg # 443):

tell you what, I'll let you have bright light if you are limited to summoning only good aligned creatures.
Lyn
Magus 2,612, 148 posts
Elf Magus
The Order
Sun 11 Mar 2018
at 09:15
  • msg #447

Re: OOC Discussion 8

Well...

That's a funny shaped ring of energy resistance.
Ankou
Druid 2,965, 554 posts
Oread Druid
Thaumaturgical Alliance
Sun 11 Mar 2018
at 09:29
  • msg #448

Re: OOC Discussion 8

It’s a ring of Tyrannosaurus, a classic among druids.
Lyn
Magus 2,612, 149 posts
Elf Magus
The Order
Sun 11 Mar 2018
at 09:50
  • msg #449

Re: OOC Discussion 8

'/Search for "Ring of Tyrannosaurus"

'/Waiting for Results

'/No Results Found

Welp. There goes that plan, I wanted one :'(

I'll have to keep saving for my Ring of Dragons instead.
Grunyar Fangblood
Summoner 3,236, 793 posts
Skinwalker Summoner
Sun 11 Mar 2018
at 09:53
  • msg #450

Re: OOC Discussion 8

In reply to Latro Dectus (msg # 446):

I said that as a joke but, I am actually contemplating that, I will only summon Good hmm might hurt good magic coming from these evil hands ...
Latro Dectus
Antipaladin 3,120, 1566 posts
Drow N. Antipaladin
Shadow's Caress
Sun 11 Mar 2018
at 12:16
  • msg #451

Re: OOC Discussion 8

In reply to Grunyar Fangblood (msg # 450):

Oh, I forgot that you're evil aligned.
Well, I suppose we can wave the rule that you're restricted to summoning only evil and neutral aligned creatures just this once. ;)

but if it was only as a joke then i'm fine with that as well.
Josep Gavinho
Wizard 1,987, 1305 posts
Human Wizard
Thaumaturgical Alliance
Sun 11 Mar 2018
at 12:30
  • msg #452

Re: OOC Discussion 8

So what’s happening in that Monster Hunt? Looks complicated. Who’s winning?
Madam Opal
Witch 1,014, 651 posts
Ratfolk Witch
Shadow's Caress
Sun 11 Mar 2018
at 12:39
  • msg #453

Re: OOC Discussion 8

In reply to Josep Gavinho (msg # 452):

Initially, the monsters put a lot of pressure on Opal and somatra so we had to teleport away.
Now opal is hexing them left and right and hindering their rolls and modifiers in a most unfair way. Basically, Opal and Somatra are turning it around finally and one of them might be dead soon.
One of them might also be a cat soon, but we'll see about that.
Brakt
Brawler 2,929, 615 posts
Ogre Brawler
The Order
Sun 11 Mar 2018
at 12:57
  • msg #454

Re: OOC Discussion 8

Baleful Polymorph! <3

Also. 300 damage in 1 round? Lyn is getting scary fast... :D
Latro Dectus
Antipaladin 3,120, 1567 posts
Drow N. Antipaladin
Shadow's Caress
Sun 11 Mar 2018
at 13:00
  • msg #455

Re: OOC Discussion 8

In reply to Brakt (msg # 454):

Indeed. It will make her that much more of a pleasure to destroy once I have the chance.
Ankou
Druid 2,965, 559 posts
Oread Druid
Thaumaturgical Alliance
Sun 11 Mar 2018
at 13:05
  • msg #456

Re: OOC Discussion 8

 You really need to get those records on record !
Vry
Sorcerer 3,046, 560 posts
Advanced Gnome
Shadow's Caress
Sun 11 Mar 2018
at 13:48
  • msg #457

Re: OOC Discussion 8

Haha, the book of harms is so OP :P
Vry
Sorcerer 3,046, 561 posts
Advanced Gnome
Shadow's Caress
Sun 11 Mar 2018
at 13:51
  • msg #458

Re: OOC Discussion 8

Vry:
Haha, the book of harms is so OP :P

hm, doesn't look like that's what's happening though, nvm...
GM Arkrim
GM, 6422 posts
Game Master
Sun 11 Mar 2018
at 17:23
  • msg #459

Re: OOC Discussion 8

Go ahead and use the RULE PROPOSALS thread to report records.

You will need to:

Describe the record
Give the number
Include link to the thread and page where it occurred

No record is approved until the match is over.
Jayce the Tamer
Summoner 2,543, 392 posts
Human Summoner
Sun 11 Mar 2018
at 22:10
  • msg #460

Re: OOC Discussion 8

I can't wait to scare the SMURF out of people in my next fight!!!! Someone duel me pretty please when my referee duty is over.
Josep Gavinho
Wizard 1,987, 1308 posts
Human Wizard
Thaumaturgical Alliance
Sun 11 Mar 2018
at 22:12
  • msg #461

Re: OOC Discussion 8

Bring it on ;)
Jayce the Tamer
Summoner 2,543, 393 posts
Human Summoner
Sun 11 Mar 2018
at 22:13
  • msg #462

Re: OOC Discussion 8

In reply to Josep Gavinho (msg # 461):

You're still locked in your rules lawyering combat. I wager your fight lasts 1-2 more weeks.

I would rather duel someone in the 3k plus club. To gain sweet, sweet BP amount.

1k+ on a win. 500+ on a loss.
This message was last edited by the player at 23:09, Sun 11 Mar 2018.
Boadicea
Fighter 2,078, 1003 posts
Advanced Human Fighter
Sun 11 Mar 2018
at 22:51
  • msg #463

Re: OOC Discussion 8

In reply to Jayce the Tamer (msg # 462):

Nooooooo!!!!!
Lyn
Magus 2,612, 157 posts
Elf Magus
The Order
Mon 12 Mar 2018
at 05:41
  • msg #464

Re: OOC Discussion 8

Vry:
2. Why oh why is Lyn making a turn at the same time, my rolls getting lost among them magus rolls!


I could say the same thing Vry! Stupid monster rolls getting in the middle of my magus rolls.
Lyn
Magus 2,612, 158 posts
Elf Magus
The Order
Mon 12 Mar 2018
at 05:57
  • msg #465

Re: OOC Discussion 8

Can I make a request for GM ruling please?

Question 1.) Spell-Storing Weapons and Metamagic Abilities:

When using an ability such as the Maximise Spell arcana, or a Book of Harms, and casting this into a Spell-Storing Weapon, will the spell, when activated, be maximised?

Question 2.) Book of Harms and other classes.

When using the Book of Harms as a magus, are you able to use the boon granted when casting Evocation spells which are also on the wizard spell list? Or is this book only usable by wizards?

Thanks.
GM Arkrim
GM, 6428 posts
Game Master
Mon 12 Mar 2018
at 13:29
  • msg #466

Re: OOC Discussion 8

This is the OOC. There are no GM rulings here.
Josep Gavinho
Wizard 1,987, 1313 posts
Human Wizard
Thaumaturgical Alliance
Mon 12 Mar 2018
at 13:49
  • msg #467

Re: OOC Discussion 8

In reply to Lyn (msg # 465):
 My 2cents as a seasoned spellcaster:

 1- yes

 2- generally depends on the boon (they all have different wording) — this one says « wizard evocation spell ».

Now of course, I’m a biased wizard here ;) and I will use the Book of Harms in my next fight.
Jayce the Tamer
Summoner 2,543, 396 posts
Human Summoner
Mon 12 Mar 2018
at 15:56
  • msg #468

Re: OOC Discussion 8

In reply to Lyn (msg # 465):

Yes. You just can't store first then maximise.


No, you cast as a magus and not as a wizard. Similar to same spells being on divine cleric list and arcane wizard/sorc list. The ability doesn't say as arcane caster, it says as wizard.


I thought your fight was going to be an easy two round swing and one walks out the victor! Haha.
This message was last edited by the player at 15:59, Mon 12 Mar 2018.
Josep Gavinho
Wizard 1,987, 1315 posts
Human Wizard
Thaumaturgical Alliance
Mon 12 Mar 2018
at 17:13
  • msg #469

Re: OOC Discussion 8

Hey Jayne, where do you stand guild-wise?
Dark Touchings is not for you, nor is the Mute Drake Kindergarten... but the Thaumaturgical Alliance would be a good fit! A lot nice than the Order, where everything has to be straight and by the book ;)

We’re Neutral, but non-extreme Good characters are welcome!
This message was last edited by the player at 17:39, Mon 12 Mar 2018.
Jayce the Tamer
Summoner 2,543, 398 posts
Human Summoner
Mon 12 Mar 2018
at 17:19
  • msg #470

Re: OOC Discussion 8

Josep Gavinho:
Hey Jayne, where do you stand guild-wise?
Dark Touchings is not for you, nor is the Mute Dake Kindergarten... but the Thaumaturgical Alliance would be a good fit! A lot nice than the Order, where everything has to be straight and by the book ;)

We’re Neutral, but non-extreme Good characters are welcome!

Now that I have been called Jayne, I don't know. Haha. I kid, I kid.

My second class option I would like to use is paladin That might drop me from your list. But ive not used it yet.
Vry
Sorcerer 3,046, 564 posts
Advanced Gnome
Shadow's Caress
Mon 12 Mar 2018
at 17:22
  • msg #471

Re: OOC Discussion 8

In reply to Jayce the Tamer (msg # 470):

I dare say it drops you from other lists! But of course there are options, and we’re quite flexible as long as Iomedae isn’t in the picture...
Josep Gavinho
Wizard 1,987, 1316 posts
Human Wizard
Thaumaturgical Alliance
Mon 12 Mar 2018
at 17:42
  • msg #472

Re: OOC Discussion 8

In reply to Jayce the Tamer (msg # 470):
 Damn autocorrect !! It’s always either Joyce or Jayne.
 Paladins are (in a bit of a stretch reading) spellcasters...
 But if you want to optimise that, then maybe The Order is better for you :)
Jayce the Tamer
Summoner 2,543, 402 posts
Human Summoner
Mon 12 Mar 2018
at 19:54
  • msg #473

Re: OOC Discussion 8

Ankou always changes to Annoy for me. Ha
Latro Dectus
Antipaladin 3,120, 1569 posts
Drow N. Antipaladin
Shadow's Caress
Mon 12 Mar 2018
at 19:59
  • msg #474

Re: OOC Discussion 8

In reply to Jayce the Tamer (msg # 473):

I greatly encourage you to go paladin. that way i have more people to simte the holy heck out of. :D
Jayce the Tamer
Summoner 2,543, 404 posts
Human Summoner
Mon 12 Mar 2018
at 20:04
  • msg #475

Re: OOC Discussion 8

In reply to Latro Dectus (msg # 474):

I'm quite literally not worried about you. Swing away Meryl. Smite away Latro.
This message was last edited by the player at 20:17, Mon 12 Mar 2018.
Jayce the Tamer
Summoner 2,543, 406 posts
Human Summoner
Mon 12 Mar 2018
at 20:16
  • msg #476

Re: OOC Discussion 8

Josep Gavinho:
In reply to Jayce the Tamer (msg # 470):
 Damn autocorrect !! It’s always either Joyce or Jayne.
 Paladins are (in a bit of a stretch reading) spellcasters...
 But if you want to optimise that, then maybe The Order is better for you :)



I'm a summoner. Charisma caster, divine grace fits thematically and too powerful not to consider.
Latro Dectus
Antipaladin 3,120, 1570 posts
Drow N. Antipaladin
Shadow's Caress
Mon 12 Mar 2018
at 20:38
  • msg #477

Re: OOC Discussion 8

In reply to Jayce the Tamer (msg # 475):

and that, my dear, will be a fatal mistake....
unless theres some sort of grey paladin variant I missed somewhere.
This message was last edited by the player at 20:40, Mon 12 Mar 2018.
Josep Gavinho
Wizard 1,987, 1320 posts
Human Wizard
Thaumaturgical Alliance
Mon 12 Mar 2018
at 20:43
  • msg #478

Re: OOC Discussion 8

In reply to Jayce:
 Oh you meant for yourself!
 I thought you had an alternate planned.
 Then you’re definitely good to join ;)
Jayce the Tamer
Summoner 2,543, 407 posts
Human Summoner
Mon 12 Mar 2018
at 20:44
  • msg #479

Re: OOC Discussion 8

In reply to Latro Dectus (msg # 477):

No I'm just not honestly worried. And not just you, I think maelstrom at my BP after this match is done, (3,200+) would worry me. Current builds from most others would not. I haven't read all Vry can do. So she is in the i don't know category. You'll see what I mean in my next fight, after which I'll be more powerful still.
Jayce the Tamer
Summoner 2,543, 408 posts
Human Summoner
Mon 12 Mar 2018
at 20:47
  • msg #480

Re: OOC Discussion 8

Josep Gavinho:
In reply to Jayce:
 Oh you meant for yourself!
 I thought you had an alternate planned.
 Then you’re definitely good to join ;)

I would have to change my alignment then to LG, for paladin add on. Which is two steps from your true neutral. Or is it, if I join as NG, adding paladin after doesn't matter? Or does it become illegal?
This message was last edited by the player at 20:50, Mon 12 Mar 2018.
Maelstrom
Monk 2,047, 419 posts
Human Monk
SotVD
Tue 13 Mar 2018
at 02:44
  • msg #481

Re: OOC Discussion 8

Jayce the Tamer:
In reply to Latro Dectus (msg # 477):

No I'm just not honestly worried. And not just you, I think maelstrom at my BP after this match is done, (3,200+) would worry me. Current builds from most others would not. I haven't read all Vry can do. So she is in the i don't know category. You'll see what I mean in my next fight, after which I'll be more powerful still.



You think I'm scary :D

Sweeet! Finally, Maelstrom gets the respect he deserves!

But in all seriousness, once you hit 3,000+ any advantage that Maelstrom has pretty much goes out the window.



quote:


I would have to change my alignment then to LG, for paladin add on. Which is two steps from your true neutral. Or is it, if I join as NG, adding paladin after doesn't matter? Or does it become illegal?


I think you always have to be within one step of the Guildmaster.
Jayce the Tamer
Summoner 2,543, 410 posts
Human Summoner
Tue 13 Mar 2018
at 02:54
  • msg #482

Re: OOC Discussion 8

In reply to Maelstrom (msg # 481):

Well, you did beat me many years ago when I had an animal farm. Eagles, ponies galore! Before Arkrim was like, alright that's too much, limit imposed!! I think I got close to 20 attacks a round back then.
Josep Gavinho
Wizard 1,987, 1321 posts
Human Wizard
Thaumaturgical Alliance
Tue 13 Mar 2018
at 09:18
  • msg #483

Re: OOC Discussion 8

In reply to Jayce the Tamer (msg # 482):
 There is an odd sense of satisfaction when Arkrim bans something you do, isn’t there ;)
GM Arkrim
GM, 6433 posts
Game Master
Tue 13 Mar 2018
at 13:37
  • msg #484

Re: OOC Discussion 8

Not so much "ban" as "apply an existing rule".

Necromancers are limited on how many HD they can have worth of minions at a time.

Leadership limits how powerful your minions are.

Animal companions and familiars and eidolons are based on level.

But there's no restriction for spells and spell-like abilities that create HD other than their time limit. The game was designed for casters to withhold resources throughout the day across multiple battles and challenges. In an arena, that's no longer the case.

I had to adjust for that somehow and COPY/PASTING an existing rule on HD limits seemed like the most appropriate way to go.
This message was last edited by the GM at 13:37, Tue 13 Mar 2018.
Josep Gavinho
Wizard 1,987, 1323 posts
Human Wizard
Thaumaturgical Alliance
Tue 13 Mar 2018
at 14:05
  • msg #485

Re: OOC Discussion 8

Oh don’t get me wrong, I think it is a great and necessary rule!
The game wasn’t designed for arena competition, so it makes sense to limit some things.
One thing that I still find very unbalanced at the moment is the cost of single-use items vs other items.
In arena mechanics, whether an item is usable 1/day or 1/hour or just once is irrelevant, it’s something you can only use once.
But they’re costed very differently in Magic item creation rules.
Things like Jingasa of the fortunate sodier, or scrolls, or necklace of fireballs, for example, are quite overpowered for their cost.
Even scrolls in a way, but they come with limitations of their own (in terms of action economy) which makes them less unbalanced (#BiasedWizard).
GM Arkrim
GM, 6434 posts
Game Master
Tue 13 Mar 2018
at 14:18
  • msg #486

Re: OOC Discussion 8

In reply to Josep Gavinho (msg # 485):

True. If there were a universal way to adjust for the Spells Throughout the Day vs. Unlimited Feats/Attacks I'd do that instead of all the little house rules there are now.
Josep Gavinho
Wizard 1,987, 1325 posts
Human Wizard
Thaumaturgical Alliance
Tue 13 Mar 2018
at 15:28
  • msg #487

Re: OOC Discussion 8

A quick and dirty way would be to say that any item that is single use costs double its listed price/cost (in exchange of not actually being consumed in the process of using it).
This would cover consumables such as scrolls/potions, but also single effect items such as feather tokens or Jingasa of the Fortunate Soldier.
Whether it should apply to charge/multiple uses items (wands and the like, or Scarab of protection) is debatable though, as these are generally not quite as underpriced as single-use.
Jayce the Tamer
Summoner 2,543, 415 posts
Human Summoner
Tue 13 Mar 2018
at 16:54
  • msg #488

Re: OOC Discussion 8

quote:
Descriptor (Alignment)
You must be of the same alignment as the alignment in the spell's descriptor to use it. Exceptions are summoning spells and SLAs which merely need the caster to be within one alignment step of the summoned creature.


Because this says use and not CAST, does it apply to  potions, wands, and scrolls as well? These items specifically state, when crafting, you must have the spell. You cannot craft it without the spell by increasing the DC by 5 like armor and capes, for example. So to get a potion, wand, or scroll of protection from good, you would need the spell which is only accessible by evil aligned characters. As such anyone not evil(good or neutral) could not get one.

This is my current understanding by the way it is written. Is this accurate, close or way off?
This message was last edited by the player at 18:03, Tue 13 Mar 2018.
Ankou
Druid 2,965, 578 posts
Oread Druid
Thaumaturgical Alliance
Tue 13 Mar 2018
at 20:08
  • msg #489

Re: OOC Discussion 8

My take on it (and how I ruled in your fight) is that you can’t use wands/scrolls/staffs any of the like if you don’t match the alignment, but you can use a potion.
My reasoning was that you could even force feed a potion to an unconscious character, so that can’t count as actively “using”.
One wouldn’t be able to craft it though, in my opinion. It would have to be bought at full price. And as such one could only buy the standard one, not a bespoke higher caster level version thereof.
Just my reading though.
Jayce the Tamer
Summoner 2,543, 417 posts
Human Summoner
Tue 13 Mar 2018
at 20:19
  • msg #490

Re: OOC Discussion 8

In reply to Ankou (msg # 489):

Your reasoning is not in line with how it was used, thus invalid. They didn't force feed themselves. I am also not worried about that match, it's over. This is for clarity for future matches. I am not looking for other people's reasonings, thoughts, opinions or two cents. Only Arkrim's factual truth about how it is to be implemented. For reasons being we both read and understand it slightly different. But do either of us understand it correctly? This way, we eliminate misconceptions.
This message was last edited by the player at 20:31, Tue 13 Mar 2018.
Ankou
Druid 2,965, 579 posts
Oread Druid
Thaumaturgical Alliance
Tue 13 Mar 2018
at 20:45
  • msg #491

Re: OOC Discussion 8

Jayce:
Your reasoning is not in line with how it was used, thus invalid.

 I agree with the premise, strongly disagree with the conclusion.

But I can see how you want clarification from Arkrim, in which case you’d be better off posting that in the Rules Proposal thread.
Jayce the Tamer
Summoner 2,543, 419 posts
Human Summoner
Tue 13 Mar 2018
at 21:04
  • msg #492

Re: OOC Discussion 8

Ankou:
Jayce:
Your reasoning is not in line with how it was used, thus invalid.

 I agree with the premise, strongly disagree with the conclusion.

But I can see how you want clarification from Arkrim, in which case you’d be better off posting that in the Rules Proposal thread.

Good idea Ankou, thank you. Rules proposal does say current rule discussion as well. I didn't want to CHANGE a rule, just ask about it so wasn't aware that was an option. Good looking out.

Would Josep be willing to go LN? So that the guild is LN and I will be one step with LG? Otherwise, seems like I can't join. :(

I am in fact going to go 20 summoner, 2 second base class, 2 prestige, 6 mythic. So I'll eventually need to go LG.
Josep Gavinho
Wizard 1,987, 1326 posts
Human Wizard
Thaumaturgical Alliance
Tue 13 Mar 2018
at 21:17
  • msg #493

Re: OOC Discussion 8

Intriguing... you could join now, summoner 20 is not for next week ;)
Thaumaturgical Alliance has always been leaning towards Lawful anyway, apart for Krumm.
I’ll certainly think it over.
Jayce the Tamer
Summoner 2,543, 420 posts
Human Summoner
Tue 13 Mar 2018
at 21:24
  • msg #494

Re: OOC Discussion 8

In reply to Josep Gavinho (msg # 493):

How does that work exactly? Just role-play joining in the sidelines?


Yeah I think I need to WIN about 7 more matches against people around my BP to get to level 21 with BP to have SOME gear. lol I have a stupid build I'm going to implement that I think will annoy everyone. 19 summoner/2 mythic. and then after that, second base class. So It is probably a month to 3 months out. Maybe faster if you, Lyn and I keep this circle going.....Ideas, ideas, ideas.

I really want to duel Ankou after this match because His BP will be minimum 436 higher to maximum 872 higher. So for me I would get 550 minimum loss to 1266 maximum win.
This message was last edited by the player at 21:40, Tue 13 Mar 2018.
Ankou
Druid 2,965, 580 posts
Oread Druid
Thaumaturgical Alliance
Tue 13 Mar 2018
at 21:52
  • msg #495

Re: OOC Discussion 8

If Josep is still locked in Battle for the Belt, sure.
Otherwise I’ll need to give deference to the guild master ;)
A guild master who direly needs BP :/
Josep Gavinho
Wizard 1,987, 1328 posts
Human Wizard
Thaumaturgical Alliance
Tue 13 Mar 2018
at 21:57
  • msg #496

Re: OOC Discussion 8

The procedure for joining isn’t clear, but I reckon formulate your desire to join in the sidelines, I’ll reply there.
I’ll call for a vote in the Guild thread — the Alliance is a democracy, well more of a magocracy, only spellcasters vote.
When we get the result of that, Arkrim will update the guild section on the other site, and your access to the threads.
Then if we fight alongside each other, we get bonus teamwork feats, yay!
Jayce the Tamer
Summoner 2,517, 423 posts
Human Summoner
Wed 14 Mar 2018
at 03:00
  • msg #497

Re: OOC Discussion 8

Ugh, cost me BP. But at least that is cleared up and I have a point of reference.
GM Arkrim
GM, 6438 posts
Game Master
Wed 14 Mar 2018
at 04:01
  • msg #498

Re: OOC Discussion 8

In reply to Jayce the Tamer (msg # 497):

At 1% it's hardly expensive...but the blood price must be paid to summon me!
Latro Dectus
Antipaladin 3,120, 1572 posts
Drow N. Antipaladin
Shadow's Caress
Wed 14 Mar 2018
at 11:41
  • msg #499

Re: OOC Discussion 8

GM Arkrim:
In reply to Jayce the Tamer (msg # 497):

At 1% it's hardly expensive...but the blood price must be paid to summon me!

BLOOD FOR THE BLOOD GOD!!!
Jayce the Tamer
Summoner 3,214, 425 posts
Human Summoner
Thu 15 Mar 2018
at 03:35
  • msg #500

Re: OOC Discussion 8

Ankou let's go! You have the most BP in the game!

Lyn up for ref if Ankou says yes?
This message was last edited by the player at 03:40, Thu 15 Mar 2018.
Lyn
Magus 3,106, 172 posts
Elf Magus
The Order
Thu 15 Mar 2018
at 05:04
  • msg #501

Re: OOC Discussion 8

I'm up to ref sure. Need to run through a few details of my build anyway so reffing suits me fine.
Ankou
Druid 3,452, 582 posts
Oread Druid
Thaumaturgical Alliance
Thu 15 Mar 2018
at 07:55
  • msg #502

Re: OOC Discussion 8

Well of course Jayce!
Ankou needs to spend a minute in the shop, but that shouldn’t take long.
He will come out Druid 15 - Augmented Human.
Let’s do something different though, I’m bored of the featureless colosseum.
I’ll let you choose though.
Hidden on the map still, something else? Prep round?
Jayce the Tamer
Summoner 3,214, 426 posts
Human Summoner
Thu 15 Mar 2018
at 11:52
  • msg #503

Re: OOC Discussion 8

Prep, hidden on the map. What map are you thinking?
Ankou
Druid 3,452, 583 posts
Aug. Human Goliath Druid
Thaumaturgical Alliance
Thu 15 Mar 2018
at 12:53
  • msg #504

Re: OOC Discussion 8

Pit, Forest, Islands... whichever really.
Octavo? Or let the Ref pick something at random
Jayce the Tamer
Summoner 3,214, 427 posts
Human Summoner
Thu 15 Mar 2018
at 16:06
  • msg #505

Re: OOC Discussion 8

I'm okay with the pit. Possibly islands. The water after the shallow part is deep to the floor? Like 50 ft deep?

On phone, can't see the maps clearly.
This message was last edited by the player at 17:03, Thu 15 Mar 2018.
Haran Madar
Sorcerer 1,121, 329 posts
Human Sorcerer
Fri 16 Mar 2018
at 02:15
  • msg #506

Re: OOC Discussion 8

quote:
Latro is correct I miss read or miss understood if Haran still wants to yeild he can my bad


What happened to never give up never surrender?
Boadicea
Fighter 2,078, 1020 posts
Advanced Human Fighter
Fri 16 Mar 2018
at 02:52
  • msg #507

Re: OOC Discussion 8

In reply to Haran Madar (msg # 506):

Oh that is my personal feelings but as ref there are rules and if you are in accordance with I must allow it
GM Arkrim
GM, 6440 posts
Game Master
Fri 16 Mar 2018
at 03:30
  • msg #508

Re: OOC Discussion 8

ANNOUNCEMENT

So, we've got a lot of Errata over the years, but I haven't gotten through all of it. I need some people to go through all the Errata from Paizo and see if any of it is redundant with Errata created here in the arena and report it to me.

Do I have volunteers?

I'm awarding hero points for this and you can do it while you're in matches.

Only catch is that the top 10% BP/ranking can't do it.
Lyn
Magus 3,106, 173 posts
Elf Magus
The Order
Fri 16 Mar 2018
at 05:23
  • msg #509

Re: OOC Discussion 8

I'll be happy to do it, been meaning to do some research anyway, and errata is a great way to do it.

I think everyone can agree I'm not 10% in ranking lol. I'm #5 for BP, but out of 33 people, that's definitely out of 10%

For anyone interested, BP ranking is as follows:

1. Ankou
2. Grunyar
3. Jayce
4. Latro
5. Lyn
6. Vry
.
.
Tina somewhere here.
.
.
Haran somewhere too far to count :P
.
.
Sometra is still new :)

I think that's everyone who's active/somewhat active.
Brakt
Brawler 2,929, 619 posts
Ogre Brawler
The Order
Fri 16 Mar 2018
at 07:16
  • msg #510

Re: OOC Discussion 8

So, looking into the errata, I've discovered that Patherfinder Second Edition is due out at some point in the future, and playtesting starts from August.  http://paizo.com/pathfinderplaytest

Any chance we'll get in on the playtest, or make a new playtest/2E arena?
This message was last edited by the player at 08:49, Fri 16 Mar 2018.
Josep Gavinho
Wizard 1,987, 1337 posts
Human Wizard
Thaumaturgical Alliance
Fri 16 Mar 2018
at 08:20
  • msg #511

Re: OOC Discussion 8

In reply to Lyn (msg # 509):
 What about Josep then ;)
Lyn
Magus 3,106, 174 posts
Elf Magus
The Order
Fri 16 Mar 2018
at 08:35
  • msg #512

Re: OOC Discussion 8

You don't count, since Ankou is already on the list :P

I'll do a full list later maybe.
Lyn
Magus 3,106, 175 posts
Elf Magus
The Order
Fri 16 Mar 2018
at 08:48
  • msg #513

Re: OOC Discussion 8

Because I really CBF working :D

1 Ankou                 3,452
2 Grunyar Fangblood 3,236
3 Jayce the Tamer         3,214
4 Latro Dectus         3,120
5 Lyn                 3,106
6 Vry                 3,046
7 Brakt                 2,929
8 Tinny Tina         2,162
9 Boadicea         2,078
10 Maelstrom         2,047
11 Hiro                 2,038
12 Josep Gavinho         1,987
13 Ario                 1,935
14 Ugrim                 1,868
15 Kecil                 1,729
16 Bruhli                 1,690
17 Thraxis                 1,563
18 Haran Madar         1,121
19 Madam Opal         1,014
20 Cronwier           807
21 Vile Ann           798
22 Copper Karl           650
23 Grace                   633
24 Krumm                   599
25 Erelace Barrityl   543
26 Ranuth                   525
27 Somatra                   494
28 Vorsheel           417
29 Tuong Hsien           395
30 Gabriel Solem           340
31 Corin                   200
32 Brandish Harbinger   200
33 Ruven                   200
GM Arkrim
GM, 6441 posts
Game Master
Fri 16 Mar 2018
at 13:48
  • msg #514

Re: OOC Discussion 8

Brakt:
So, looking into the errata, I've discovered that Patherfinder Second Edition is due out at some point in the future, and playtesting starts from August.  http://paizo.com/pathfinderplaytest

Any chance we'll get in on the playtest, or make a new playtest/2E arena?

Depends whether everyone wants to or not. We'll have to wait and see what they actually release first.
Vry
Sorcerer 3,046, 575 posts
Advanced Gnome
Shadow's Caress
Fri 16 Mar 2018
at 13:59
  • msg #515

Re: OOC Discussion 8

In reply to GM Arkrim (msg # 514):

I’m betting the actual game will be released in August 2019, it at least won’t be in 2018, so I advise we wait until v1.0 if rules is out (at least when it comes to changing the rules of this arena. I’d gladly participate in a side project).
Jayce the Tamer
Summoner 3,214, 428 posts
Human Summoner
Fri 16 Mar 2018
at 15:39
  • msg #516

Re: OOC Discussion 8

You must have the grab ability to not be considered grappled while grappling. This allows you to use only the limb that you are grappling with at a whopping -20 to cmb.
https://www.d20pfsrd.com/besti...nster-rules/#Grab_Ex

Grab:
The creature has the option to conduct the grapple normally, or simply use the part of its body it used in the grab to hold the opponent. If it chooses to do the latter, it takes a –20 penalty on its CMB check to make and maintain the grapple, but does not gain the grappled condition itself. A successful hold does not deal any extra damage unless the creature also has the constrict special attack.


If you do not have this ability, you must use your whole body to maintain the grapple. But this would also mean it must have a limb left that still has grab ability on it to grab someone else. IE 2 claws or two heads.

The second thing one would need is the ability to maintain a grapple as a move action or faster. As maintaining the grapple is a standard action.

Although, I must point out, I don't even see how Nambtad was grappled before they started to grapple Opal. None of you are near the black tentacles.
This message was last edited by the player at 02:49, Sat 17 Mar 2018.
Josep Gavinho
Wizard 1,987, 1340 posts
Human Wizard
Thaumaturgical Alliance
Fri 16 Mar 2018
at 16:12
  • msg #517

Re: OOC Discussion 8

In reply to Jayce the Tamer (msg # 516):
 So what you’re saying is we shouldn’t get grappled in the beta version of 2nd Edition...

 Wise and metaphorical.

 Unless some of us have the Grab ability...
Jayce the Tamer
Summoner 3,214, 429 posts
Human Summoner
Fri 16 Mar 2018
at 16:25
  • msg #518

Re: OOC Discussion 8

In reply to Josep Gavinho (msg # 517):

Ha, no this is current rule set happening in the monster hunt. Vry's monster needs to have grab and needs a -20 on top of other penalties that may or may not be affecting the grappling creature.


Ankou, respond let's do pit or island. If island no flying? Otherwise no point in island.
Ankou
Druid 3,452, 584 posts
Aug. Human Goliath Druid
Thaumaturgical Alliance
Fri 16 Mar 2018
at 16:45
  • msg #519

Re: OOC Discussion 8

Let’s Island no flying.

Just to be clear, no flying means no one can be airborne at any point.
So no levitation, or gliding, or hovering, right?
But one could have the capacity to fly, as long as they don’t use it.
As in, you can still summon a Roc, but it needs to remain on ground.
Jayce the Tamer
Summoner 3,214, 430 posts
Human Summoner
Fri 16 Mar 2018
at 16:59
  • msg #520

Re: OOC Discussion 8

In reply to Ankou (msg # 519):

Right. When you are ready, post the challenge.

Human, master summoner, level 15

Yay, we are moving. Ankou, you should have waited to buy human race. You're costing me 130+ BP if I win. lol jk. How much longer before I'm in the Alliance? I'm kind of interested in seeing what team work feats we can pull off in a monster hunt.
This message was last edited by the player at 04:46, Sat 17 Mar 2018.
Latro Dectus
Antipaladin 3,120, 1576 posts
Drow N. Antipaladin
Shadow's Caress
Sat 17 Mar 2018
at 06:51
  • msg #521

Re: OOC Discussion 8

The green haze of death falls upon us once more
Boadicea
Fighter 2,078, 1030 posts
Advanced Human Fighter
Sun 18 Mar 2018
at 12:31
  • msg #522

Re: OOC Discussion 8

+1 to about everything in the reton poll, I was mistaken on how the 48hr rule worked I always thought it up to the other player to call then ref to enforce.  I stand corrected let's get these matches moving.
Vry
Sorcerer 3,046, 580 posts
Advanced Gnome
Shadow's Caress
Sun 18 Mar 2018
at 12:46
  • msg #523

Re: OOC Discussion 8

Don't have any proper suggestions so I'm posting my opinions on the newest poll here instead:

I agree with Josep's suggestions, especially regarding Act out of turn and Which actions are taken. The former because it is very, very strong (and rather inhibiting to know that when I reveal my hand and perform the actions I have been trying to set up, the enemy can interrupt in the middle of it with the use of a hero point if only to do something as simple as move 30ft away). The latter because it is disrupting to the match being unable to fact-check and rules-lawyer the enemy, and to try and make something good happen out of discovering a faulty use of actions hidden by stealth five rounds later. Also it's boring to participate in and/or watch a duel where people make posts with all information in secret.

And I too see hidden on map as a must with these rules, as if I am to post my entire round in one post only, then I need to know what secret information I can act on depending on perception checks, movement & position, etc, when posting it.
Boadicea
Fighter 2,078, 1031 posts
Advanced Human Fighter
Sun 18 Mar 2018
at 13:19
  • msg #524

Re: OOC Discussion 8

I like the hidden on map however I see how it can be abused yeah I don't beat you stealth but I may still more into an advantageous position or summon a ring of monsters around you name any other situation and I am sure a way to abuse it.  Guess something that should be factored into your turn as I am giving a problem not a solution ignore me.
Josep Gavinho
Wizard 1,987, 1347 posts
Human Wizard
Thaumaturgical Alliance
Sun 18 Mar 2018
at 13:38
  • msg #525

Re: OOC Discussion 8

In reply to Jayce the Tamer (msg # 520):
 Looks like no one is there to vote in the Guild thread but me (and my Druid cousin) — so yay! You're in.

 Hidden on the map can be abused, it strongly penalises anyone who wants to play the invisibility/stealth card... on the other hand maybe that is a good thing? After all, this is an arena, we're gladiators here to compete for glory and the enjoyment of the crowd. No one likes a champion who hides in a corner and waits... (I fully appreciate the irony of what I'm saying considering what is going on in the Battle for the Belt!)
Boadicea
Fighter 2,078, 1032 posts
Advanced Human Fighter
Sun 18 Mar 2018
at 14:00
  • msg #526

Re: OOC Discussion 8

Not that I agree with someone hiding all the time, as a fighter I may (hypothetically) want to disengage from opponent and find a spot to down a few potions of heal and run back to combat.  Maybe do an opposite of the arena immunities once below 50% or 25% health you have X rounds (obviously stalling still counts) until you come back on map
Jayce the Tamer
Summoner 3,214, 433 posts
Human Summoner
Sun 18 Mar 2018
at 15:57
  • msg #527

Re: OOC Discussion 8

+1 Josep post

I guess we are waiting for new poll results before match start.

Stealthing is becoming obsolete as we gain power. I'm like 3 steps from having monsters with true seeing. Earth elementals have tremor sense. So on, so forth. The only class that stealth is valid at high levels is ninja. They literally cannot be perceived in any way once they attain hidden master. Probably one of the scarier classes to duel, luckily nobody is a level 20 ninja. But I'm sure if and when it comes up Arkrim will dilute that power. As it is written doesn't even require a stealth check, you just can't detect them.


I say hidden on the map moves straight to total cover against single target abilities if DC failed by 10+, standard operating procedures in place if failed by less.


Again, I think most of this is moot as we can all find a way to acquire see invisibility, glitterdust, true seeing and so on.
This message was last edited by the player at 16:25, Sun 18 Mar 2018.
Vry
Sorcerer 3,046, 582 posts
Advanced Gnome
Shadow's Caress
Sun 18 Mar 2018
at 19:52
  • msg #528

Re: OOC Discussion 8

I want to heavily penalize stealth because when it slows down a game, it will never be worth it IMO. Allowing a total of 1-2 rounds hidden, rest hidden on map could perhaps work as well. I just do not like when things move slowly.
Boadicea
Fighter 2,078, 1033 posts
Advanced Human Fighter
Sun 18 Mar 2018
at 20:15
  • msg #529

Re: OOC Discussion 8

Jayce it's not always an invisible thing take tunnels for instance if I am faster than you and able to keep a high enough stealth I could turn a corner or two and you have no idea where I am gives me a second to breath but with hidden on map you can make the right turns even though you should not have an idea where I am.
Jayce the Tamer
Summoner 3,214, 434 posts
Human Summoner
Sun 18 Mar 2018
at 22:06
  • msg #530

Re: OOC Discussion 8

In reply to Boadicea (msg # 529):

Tremor sense(I know where you are within 60 ft, if you are on the floor). There are monsters that have its equal in water. I'm pretty sure there is one for air but not sure. So yes, I still would know what turn to make.

My idea is if stealth exceeds perception by 10+, go straight to total cover vs single target attacks and still 50 percent miss vs aoe.

As Grunyar knows, 6 evolution points I could give myself Tremor sense, blind sense, blind sight etc.



Vry:
I want to heavily penalize stealth because when it slows down a game, it will never be worth it IMO. Allowing a total of 1-2 rounds hidden, rest hidden on map could perhaps work as well. I just do not like when things move slowly.

Like 6-12 week matches. Hahaha.
This message was last edited by the player at 22:41, Sun 18 Mar 2018.
Boadicea
Fighter 2,078, 1035 posts
Advanced Human Fighter
Sun 18 Mar 2018
at 23:02
  • msg #531

Re: OOC Discussion 8

In reply to Jayce the Tamer (msg # 530):

True that is you and Grunyar and also requires minions.  Two fighters fighting I doubt either would have those abilities, but like every thing else can always put it in the challenge agreement.
GM Arkrim
GM, 6450 posts
Game Master
Mon 19 Mar 2018
at 13:10
  • msg #532

Re: OOC Discussion 8

Josep Gavinho:
I should have taken the money and left when I had the chance...


Latro Dectus
Antipaladin 3,120, 1581 posts
Drow N. Antipaladin
Shadow's Caress
Mon 19 Mar 2018
at 18:44
  • msg #533

Re: OOC Discussion 8

As a side note to everything that's been happening in the arena lately, i would like to remind all our practitioners of summoning magic that the arena asks that you simply post a link to your minion's srd page rather than listing out stats.

quote:
If your minion is a summon, merely post a link to their SRD stats instead of the AC and CMD.


Listing AC and CMD and all that is nice though, less clicking for everyone
Grunyar Fangblood
Summoner 3,236, 801 posts
Skinwalker Summoner
Mon 19 Mar 2018
at 19:11
  • msg #534

Re: OOC Discussion 8

In reply to Latro Dectus (msg # 533):

I dislike that we have to give you all info on my summons without having to identify them, I can see linking for Ref.

Just thought I would throw that out there beings you brought it up :)
Jayce the Tamer
Summoner 3,214, 437 posts
Human Summoner
Mon 19 Mar 2018
at 19:40
  • msg #535

Re: OOC Discussion 8

Ankou, when you're here let's try again....
Ankou
Druid 3,452, 586 posts
Aug. Human Goliath Druid
Thaumaturgical Alliance
Mon 19 Mar 2018
at 19:43
  • msg #536

Re: OOC Discussion 8

Ready when you are, but you'll have to issue the challenge this time around. Or did I make that rule up?
Latro Dectus
Antipaladin 3,120, 1582 posts
Drow N. Antipaladin
Shadow's Caress
Mon 19 Mar 2018
at 20:34
  • msg #537

Re: OOC Discussion 8

In reply to Grunyar Fangblood (msg # 534):

I mean, you're more than welcome to submit something in the rules proposal thread about it. ;P
Grunyar Fangblood
Summoner 3,236, 802 posts
Skinwalker Summoner
Mon 19 Mar 2018
at 20:52
  • msg #538

Re: OOC Discussion 8

In reply to Latro Dectus (msg # 537):

I may need to do that, I have no issue filling out a stat block just to keep those who think knowledge skill is worthless from knowing what my devil is immune/resistant to or insert spell/ability I want to surprise you with.
GM Arkrim
GM, 6453 posts
Game Master
Tue 20 Mar 2018
at 01:42
  • msg #539

Re: OOC Discussion 8

I already fixed it. It was supposed to be to the referee.
Latro Dectus
Antipaladin 3,120, 1583 posts
Drow N. Antipaladin
Shadow's Caress
Tue 20 Mar 2018
at 07:16
  • msg #540

Re: OOC Discussion 8

Blast! Foiled again!
Brakt
Brawler 2,929, 622 posts
Ogre Brawler
The Order
Wed 21 Mar 2018
at 03:35
  • msg #541

Re: OOC Discussion 8

Yawn...

Hurry up Josep, I want to hit something!
Jayce the Tamer
Summoner 3,214, 442 posts
Human Summoner
Wed 21 Mar 2018
at 06:04
  • msg #542

Re: OOC Discussion 8

Kudos Madam Opal(and all alts). I've always enjoyed dueling you due to your creativity.

Crap, I accidentally showed my opponent some of my hand..... ugh. oh well.


27 attacks in one round(not including grapple attempts). If I would have gotten 5, 45 attacks in one round. Would have been a record to behold I think. lol
This message was last edited by the player at 00:50, Thu 22 Mar 2018.
Jayce the Tamer
Summoner 3,214, 458 posts
Human Summoner
Fri 23 Mar 2018
at 08:36
  • msg #543

Re: OOC Discussion 8

Lyn, you up to duel me next? Seems like Haran and Josep will still be at it next week. Which also leaves Brakt and Latro off the table. :(
This message was last edited by the player at 08:55, Fri 23 Mar 2018.
Latro Dectus
Antipaladin 3,120, 1584 posts
Drow N. Antipaladin
Shadow's Caress
Fri 23 Mar 2018
at 09:38
  • msg #544

Re: OOC Discussion 8

In reply to Jayce the Tamer (msg # 543):

Eh, just gives me more time to finalize Latro's next build.
Jayce the Tamer
Summoner 3,214, 459 posts
Human Summoner
Fri 23 Mar 2018
at 09:43
  • msg #545

Re: OOC Discussion 8

In reply to Latro Dectus (msg # 544):

I am interested in seeing your template in play.
Ugrim
Barbarian 1,868, 536 posts
Adv. Orc Barbar/Fighter
Shadow's Caress
Fri 23 Mar 2018
at 09:48
  • msg #546

Re: OOC Discussion 8

So Arkrim, I've been doing reading up on survival matches and currently theres no rewards calculations for them but the best i can figure is treating each monster(s) as its own separate dual and giving out BP rewards after each monster's defeat/victory

does this seem reasonable to you?

also, for the one running the monster(s), do they get BP for doing this?
Latro Dectus
Antipaladin 3,120, 1585 posts
Drow N. Antipaladin
Shadow's Caress
Fri 23 Mar 2018
at 09:50
  • msg #547

Re: OOC Discussion 8

In reply to Jayce the Tamer (msg # 545):

Yeah, me too. My biggest problem right now is figuring out which template I want to use and which will benefit me the most cause i've got three in mind right now and its difficult to decide between them.
Jayce the Tamer
Summoner 3,214, 460 posts
Human Summoner
Fri 23 Mar 2018
at 10:18
  • msg #548

Re: OOC Discussion 8

In reply to Latro Dectus (msg # 547):

For real! Options. I thought about a template because of the flexibility, but for my build I really, really, REALLY, need summoner 20/base 2/prestige 2/mythic 6. BUT MAN, is it expensive for that base 2. I need mythic 6 for 1 ult tier ability, 2 mythic feats and some nice tricks that go swimmingly with my build.
Lyn
Magus 3,106, 178 posts
Elf Magus
The Order
Fri 23 Mar 2018
at 10:31
  • msg #549

Re: OOC Discussion 8

Can you 20/2 base classes? I always thought it capped at 20, and 21-30 were prestige/mythic.

As for a match, maybe? Not a lot of PC access next week, but I can post, just won't be able to update the map. See how we go when you guys finish.
Jayce the Tamer
Summoner 3,214, 462 posts
Human Summoner
Fri 23 Mar 2018
at 22:01
  • msg #550

Re: OOC Discussion 8

A class caps at 20. Doesn't say you can not grab a second class.

Madam opal, your monster hunt is quite expensive. 2 months and 3 hero points, I do hope you win.
Madam Opal
Witch 1,014, 668 posts
Ratfolk Witch
Shadow's Caress
Fri 23 Mar 2018
at 22:04
  • msg #551

Re: OOC Discussion 8

In reply to Jayce the Tamer (msg # 550):

Opal has a wealth of hero points so i'm not bothered by it. :P
Jayce the Tamer
Summoner 3,214, 466 posts
Human Summoner
Sat 24 Mar 2018
at 02:05
  • msg #552

Re: OOC Discussion 8

Grunyar(or anyone really), do you know if the old rules for spending extra hero points to pick a monster and room still apply? For monster hunts. Arkrim's site doesn't list those old rules.

Question for GM Arkrim:

Suicide is a GM approval required, in a case by case basis. I honestly think Ankou and I have a greater than 50 percent chance of beating a great wyrm red dragon in a monstter hunt. Our BP will be 4Kish each after this duel, would that be allowed, or considered?
GM Arkrim
GM, 6457 posts
Game Master
Sat 24 Mar 2018
at 02:47
  • msg #553

Re: OOC Discussion 8

In reply to Jayce the Tamer (msg # 552):

*points to IPaR thread*
Jayce the Tamer
Summoner 3,214, 467 posts
Human Summoner
Sat 24 Mar 2018
at 03:26
  • msg #554

Re: OOC Discussion 8

In reply to GM Arkrim (msg # 553):

NOOOOOOOOOOOO! Dang it!! More than Likely post soon then. ha.
Josep Gavinho
Wizard 1,987, 1367 posts
Human Wizard
Thaumaturgical Alliance
Sun 25 Mar 2018
at 18:27
  • msg #555

Re: OOC Discussion 8

Battle for the Belt is over ! At last !
Was that the longest fight ever or what?
17 rounds, 9200 BP in the room, 540 posts, now that is some epic proportions.

And the best wizard won, evidently.

I’d be lying if I said I had faith in Josep through and through, and I need to tip my wizard hat to a truly excellent Haran.
Jayce the Tamer
Summoner 4,331, 481 posts
Human Summoner
Sun 25 Mar 2018
at 19:31
  • msg #556

Re: OOC Discussion 8

Congratulations.

Ankou and I are looking for someone to run a CR 22 monster hunt. Any takers?

And a ref.
This message was last edited by the player at 21:34, Sun 25 Mar 2018.
GM Arkrim
GM, 6463 posts
Game Master
Sun 25 Mar 2018
at 19:33
  • msg #557

Re: OOC Discussion 8

That was really close between Josep and Haran. Whelp, Josep is champion once again and has officially beaten Hiro's ranking on the Leaderboard. Wow, really impressive stuff everyone.

Definitely the longest match post-wise and most BP in one room ever.

Probably be a while before something that epic happens again....

Or will it...? dun Dun DUN!

:P
This message was last edited by the GM at 19:47, Sun 25 Mar 2018.
Boadicea
Fighter 3,227, 1044 posts
Advanced Human Fighter
Sun 25 Mar 2018
at 20:26
  • msg #558

Re: OOC Discussion 8

Starting to rebuild (rereading the rules) man you took all the neat toys away from dippers.  It hurts you think so low of us :p
GM Arkrim
GM, 6464 posts
Game Master
Sun 25 Mar 2018
at 20:43
  • msg #559

Re: OOC Discussion 8

In reply to Boadicea (msg # 558):

I'm not a fan of dipping, and I still think it'd be easier to ban dipping altogether but I offered a scaling compromise.
Josep Gavinho
Wizard 4,387, 1370 posts
Human Wizard
Thaumaturgical Alliance
Sun 25 Mar 2018
at 21:38
  • msg #560

Re: OOC Discussion 8

 I used to love my Crossblooded Sorcerer 1 level dip... Just a pit-stop to grab all the good stuff and off you go ;)

 So, Arkrim pointed out that I'm missing one achievement... I'm thus looking for 3 opponents, with combined BP >5k
 Potentially a lot of BP for a couple of newcomers paired with a more seasoned gladiator?

 Takers?
Haran Madar
Sorcerer 3,138, 345 posts
Human Sorcerer
Mon 26 Mar 2018
at 00:32
  • msg #561

Re: OOC Discussion 8

I pretty sure the most post in one match achievement will never be broken. Well played to you all. There were some clever plays in that match. Enjoy being champion Josep. Haran will be waiting to strike when the time is right. :P

Crossblooded Sorcerer is amazing (currently what Haran is), but I'm thinking about switching to Arcanist.

With all the new bp everyone has, I'm sure the next fights are going to be awesome.

quote:
So, Arkrim pointed out that I'm missing one achievement... I'm thus looking for 3 opponents, with combined BP >5k
 Potentially a lot of BP for a couple of newcomers paired with a more seasoned gladiator?


How about Latro and his minions?

I would say Hiro and his guild, but that would just be Maelstrom.
This message was last edited by the player at 00:33, Mon 26 Mar 2018.
Brakt
Brawler 3,972, 625 posts
Ogre Brawler
The Order
Mon 26 Mar 2018
at 02:23
  • msg #562

Re: OOC Discussion 8

Josep, does it need to be 3? Lyn and I could do it, though it would be almost 6k BP instead of just 5k.

Otherwise, I'm down to ref or play monster for Ankou/Jayce :)

Either way, waiting for Grunyar to finish what's lined up so Lyn/Boad/Grunya and me can take out the universe with a monster hunt
Jayce the Tamer
Summoner 4,331, 486 posts
Human Summoner
Mon 26 Mar 2018
at 02:25
  • msg #563

Re: OOC Discussion 8

In reply to Brakt (msg # 562):

Run our monster hunt and I'll run yours. I'm good with monsters. I use them all the time haha.

Don't you mean almost 8k? Lyn has 3900 and so does brakt.

Boad would you like to ref or play the monster in a CR 22 monster hunt? Brakt is willing to do either or. Perhaps we will line up to finish at about the same time Madam Opal and company complete. Then I will play the monster for you all.
This message was last edited by the player at 05:27, Mon 26 Mar 2018.
Brakt
Brawler 3,972, 627 posts
Ogre Brawler
The Order
Mon 26 Mar 2018
at 02:27
  • msg #564

Re: OOC Discussion 8

Oh shit, I didn't even notice!

Lots of new toys to play with :)
Brakt
Brawler 3,972, 628 posts
Ogre Brawler
The Order
Mon 26 Mar 2018
at 05:41
  • msg #565

Re: OOC Discussion 8

Hey, anyone up for a really quick match with the big ogre while waiting for Monster Hunts etc to get organised? :D
Jayce the Tamer
Summoner 4,331, 487 posts
Human Summoner
Mon 26 Mar 2018
at 05:51
  • msg #566

Re: OOC Discussion 8

In reply to Brakt (msg # 565):

I'll beat you up. If we get a ref.
Boadicea
Fighter 3,227, 1045 posts
Advanced Human Fighter
Mon 26 Mar 2018
at 06:00
  • msg #567

Re: OOC Discussion 8

In reply to Jayce the Tamer (msg # 566):

I am free working on my rebuild
Jayce the Tamer
Summoner 4,331, 488 posts
Human Summoner
Mon 26 Mar 2018
at 06:02
  • msg #568

Re: OOC Discussion 8

Oh yeah!

Which one of you want to be the monster(s), Boad or Brakt?
Brakt
Brawler 3,972, 629 posts
Ogre Brawler
The Order
Mon 26 Mar 2018
at 06:05
  • msg #569

Re: OOC Discussion 8

Sure, why not? :D

Let Boad ref our fight, then she can monster and I'll ref?

No prep rounds, small Colosseum? :D

Ogre Brawler 15. I'll rebuild with templates after I have more BP :)
Brakt
Brawler 3,972, 630 posts
Ogre Brawler
The Order
Mon 26 Mar 2018
at 06:08
  • msg #570

Re: OOC Discussion 8

Correction, Brawler 16 :D
Jayce the Tamer
Summoner 4,331, 489 posts
Human Summoner
Mon 26 Mar 2018
at 06:21
  • msg #571

Re: OOC Discussion 8

In reply to Brakt (msg # 570):

Okay. If Boad agrees to ref. Augmented Human(23 RP), Master Summoner 16.
Boadicea
Fighter 3,227, 1046 posts
Advanced Human Fighter
Mon 26 Mar 2018
at 06:47
  • msg #572

Re: OOC Discussion 8

In reply to Jayce the Tamer (msg # 571):

I am good with whatever still trying to decide what direction to go if I give up my multiclass
Josep Gavinho
Wizard 4,387, 1371 posts
Human Wizard
Thaumaturgical Alliance
Mon 26 Mar 2018
at 06:52
  • msg #573

Re: OOC Discussion 8

I need 3 different players, it can’t be Latro+Opal+Ugrim for example.

It could be Lyn + Ugrim + Someone new
Jayce the Tamer
Summoner 4,331, 491 posts
Human Summoner
Mon 26 Mar 2018
at 06:53
  • msg #574

Re: OOC Discussion 8

In reply to Josep Gavinho (msg # 573):

I think you would need to wait for Somatra to finish.
Brakt
Brawler 3,972, 632 posts
Ogre Brawler
The Order
Mon 26 Mar 2018
at 06:58
  • msg #575

Re: OOC Discussion 8

Challenge is up. Let's see if we can finish this tonight :D
Jayce the Tamer
Summoner 4,331, 493 posts
Human Summoner
Mon 26 Mar 2018
at 06:59
  • msg #576

Re: OOC Discussion 8

In reply to Brakt (msg # 575):

I posted literally 1 minute before you did. These things happen, I think as long as Boadecia accepts referee duty it will be fine. My guess, I typed up one as you were and I just completed the process first. Maybe it is okay for you to delete yours and copy mine?
Brakt
Brawler 3,972, 634 posts
Ogre Brawler
The Order
Mon 26 Mar 2018
at 07:05
  • msg #577

Re: OOC Discussion 8

Haha, didn't even see it!

My only chance is to kill you off before you get a chance to summon, so here's hoping :O
Jayce the Tamer
Summoner 4,331, 495 posts
Human Summoner
Mon 26 Mar 2018
at 07:13
  • msg #578

Re: OOC Discussion 8

In reply to Brakt (msg # 577):

If you go first, you'll need to do about 300 damage. If I go first, I'm most likely going to kill you.

Since there is no prep, to make life easier for everyone, in our init post, lets post our combat info. Just as we do during prep then round 1.
This message was last edited by the player at 07:19, Mon 26 Mar 2018.
Brakt
Brawler 3,972, 635 posts
Ogre Brawler
The Order
Mon 26 Mar 2018
at 07:19
  • msg #579

Re: OOC Discussion 8

Let's see...

Small Colosseum, so 50' away after size?

That's -2 on each attack... I've got a chance! Maybe lol
Brakt
Brawler 3,972, 636 posts
Ogre Brawler
The Order
Mon 26 Mar 2018
at 08:48
  • msg #580

Re: OOC Discussion 8

All right, just waiting for the match now!

Can you please post AC/CMD/HP etc. when you post init?

Thanks :)
Josep Gavinho
Wizard 4,387, 1380 posts
Human Wizard
Thaumaturgical Alliance
Mon 26 Mar 2018
at 13:54
  • msg #581

Re: OOC Discussion 8

Who wants a quick joust with Josep?
What’s happening with the Monster Hunt btw?
Has anyone managed to die yet?
Vry
Sorcerer 3,046, 593 posts
Advanced Gnome
Shadow's Caress
Mon 26 Mar 2018
at 15:10
  • msg #582

Re: OOC Discussion 8

One monster was brutally executed in his sleep! The others are still severely debuffed, and even though levitate creates possibilities, it does not enable any agile movement at all. As such, the monsters are slowly gnawing at Madam Opal, their dexterity draining attack no longer effective, and being unable to establish flanking positions. Somatra hides and attacks, chipping off piece after piece from the monsters who make this a very large task for her due to their fast healing. ;)
Josep Gavinho
Wizard 4,387, 1381 posts
Human Wizard
Thaumaturgical Alliance
Mon 26 Mar 2018
at 15:14
  • msg #583

Re: OOC Discussion 8

Can I join for a couple of rounds? ;)
Somatra
Slayer 494, 56 posts
Fetchling Slayer
Mon 26 Mar 2018
at 20:04
  • msg #584

Re: OOC Discussion 8

I'm okay with you joining if no one else has a problem with it.  Heaven knows the one monster we've killed looked like a pincushion by the time it went out.  Winding up with monsters who were immune to poisons and  resistant cold has stretched things out a bit.
Latro Dectus
Antipaladin 3,623, 1587 posts
Drow N. Antipaladin
Shadow's Caress
Mon 26 Mar 2018
at 20:57
  • msg #585

Re: OOC Discussion 8

Well, now that that ordeal is finally over with, i can get to my promised match against Grunyar.

Grunyar, lets work out the details while we're waiting for the Monster match to be over with.

Was there actually anything special you wanted to do or shall we just go with standard rules and regulations seeing as theres a lot of new stuff thats been implemented recently?
Grunyar Fangblood
Summoner 3,236, 809 posts
Skinwalker Summoner
Mon 26 Mar 2018
at 21:08
  • msg #586

Re: OOC Discussion 8

In reply to Latro Dectus (msg # 585):

Sounds good, what kind of map you want?
Ankou
Druid 3,987, 615 posts
Aug. Human Goliath Druid
Thaumaturgical Alliance
Mon 26 Mar 2018
at 21:38
  • msg #587

Re: OOC Discussion 8

 I can ref if you need someone.
Latro Dectus
Antipaladin 3,623, 1588 posts
Drow N. Antipaladin
Shadow's Caress
Mon 26 Mar 2018
at 22:19
  • msg #588

Re: OOC Discussion 8

In reply to Grunyar Fangblood (msg # 586):

I'm thinking large colosseum. More space to work with and more area for all those summons I know you're going to throw at me.
Also, because its a requirement i tell you this, the template Latro will be using is the Graveknight.

@Ankou
I mean, we do need a ref, afterall. :P
Grunyar Fangblood
Summoner 3,236, 810 posts
Skinwalker Summoner
Tue 27 Mar 2018
at 00:55
  • msg #589

Re: OOC Discussion 8

In reply to Latro Dectus (msg # 588):

Sounds good I was wondering wether you had to call out what template or just that you had a template and maybe it's CR.  Kinda gives stuff away hard not to look up and see what your immunities are or what you are weak against.
Ankou
Druid 3,987, 616 posts
Aug. Human Goliath Druid
Thaumaturgical Alliance
Tue 27 Mar 2018
at 07:17
  • msg #590

Re: OOC Discussion 8

Good stuff! I like the fluff of the Grave Knight ;)
Josep Gavinho
Wizard 4,387, 1385 posts
Human Wizard
Thaumaturgical Alliance
Tue 27 Mar 2018
at 08:46
  • msg #591

Re: OOC Discussion 8

Hey all, Jayce and I are going to take on a big monster.
Last time I tried was with Hiro, and we got our butt kicked by an adult dragon (piloted by Jayce I might add)

We need someone to puppeteer the monster (at CR22, it will likely be an great wyrm) and someone else to ref.

Big BP either way. Who’s in ?
Jayce the Tamer
Summoner 4,331, 509 posts
Human Summoner
Tue 27 Mar 2018
at 08:57
  • msg #592

Re: OOC Discussion 8

OMG that took over an hour to post. High level dueling takes forever!!


Josep, Brakt agreed to play monster and boad agreed to ref. Brakt's condition was duel with no prep. Seems like that didn't work in his favor lol.

I also said after how I would have beat up that dragon. :P Don't make me out to be a villain I'm NG!!!
Brakt
Brawler 3,972, 642 posts
Ogre Brawler
The Order
Tue 27 Mar 2018
at 09:38
  • msg #593

Re: OOC Discussion 8

Welp.

Next time.

Yeah, Lyn will play monster. Brakt needs to kill someone somehow. Anyone else up to pick on the ogre? :)
Jayce the Tamer
Summoner 4,331, 513 posts
Human Summoner
Tue 27 Mar 2018
at 09:42
  • msg #594

Re: OOC Discussion 8

In reply to Brakt (msg # 593):

Well you did just get 721 BP just for the duel. You'll be over 4600. I'm sure you'll get that win.

I was actually trying to miss my Shield archon so I took a -4 for nonlethal damage. 20 percent chance to miss!

Monster will be CR 23 since Josep and I will be 10k BP. So have Lyn shop a CR 23 encounter for us.

Since you are picking the monster and map, issue the challenge to use when you are ready.

I'll be Augmented Human, Master Summoner 17.
This message was last edited by the player at 09:49, Tue 27 Mar 2018.
Josep Gavinho
Wizard 4,387, 1387 posts
Human Wizard
Thaumaturgical Alliance
Tue 27 Mar 2018
at 09:52
  • msg #595

Re: OOC Discussion 8

Wizard 16.

Please, please don’t make that an encounter with 12 different CR15 monsters is that is going to take 6 months and 25 rounds to play out.
Lyn
Magus 3,939, 179 posts
Elf Magus
The Order
Tue 27 Mar 2018
at 09:54
  • msg #596

Re: OOC Discussion 8

I'm on mobile tonight, but if one of you Lovies will post the challenge I'll be happy to accept.
Jayce the Tamer
Summoner 4,331, 514 posts
Human Summoner
Tue 27 Mar 2018
at 09:56
  • msg #597

Re: OOC Discussion 8

Josep Gavinho:
Wizard 16.

Please, please don’t make that an encounter with 12 different CR15 monsters is that is going to take 6 months and 25 rounds to play out.

2nded! Please do 1 or 2. Because look at that FFA you were just in. Sheesh. Even Madam Opal's match is going on 2 months.

We need you to post the challenge after you pick monsters and map. And AFTER BRakt's and my fight closes. We can't post a challenge without know monster amount( 1 or 2) and map details.

I can, however, post the challenge if you tell me monster amount(1 or 2) and the map you pick(large or small) etc. That way everything will be on the up and up.
This message was last edited by the player at 09:58, Tue 27 Mar 2018.
Lyn
Magus 3,939, 180 posts
Elf Magus
The Order
Tue 27 Mar 2018
at 09:57
  • msg #598

Re: OOC Discussion 8

That's a point. All right, I'll keep an eye on it, but if you guys are around when the match is done, large octavo and 1 monster. :)
Josep Gavinho
Wizard 4,387, 1388 posts
Human Wizard
Thaumaturgical Alliance
Tue 27 Mar 2018
at 09:59
  • msg #599

Re: OOC Discussion 8

I don’t like the sound of that... but fair enough!
Latro Dectus
Antipaladin 3,623, 1589 posts
Drow N. Antipaladin
Shadow's Caress
Tue 27 Mar 2018
at 16:15
  • msg #600

Re: OOC Discussion 8

In reply to Grunyar Fangblood (msg # 589):

Yeah, but while you're allowed to know what my template is, you're going to be in the dark as to what unique selections i've made for some of the abilities so think wisely on how you think I might proceed. ;)
Jayce the Tamer
Summoner 5,655, 525 posts
Human Summoner
Wed 28 Mar 2018
at 02:23
  • msg #601

Re: OOC Discussion 8

GM Arkrim:
Match denied.

1) You need both someone to play the monster and a referee. Neither can be part of any participant's guild.

2) You cannot decide on the map, player, or monster beforehand. Only the CR and first person to accepts accepts. You literally don't know who you're fighting when you sign up for suicide.

3) After agreement to challenges, GM will post the match without a map.

4) Sheets are posted by players.

5) Monster(s) and map are selected by player using monster. GM will consult them beforehand because it is a suicide match rather than a regular monster hunt.

6) Map is posted and initiatives rolled.

7) Starting positions selected.

8) Initiative order begins.

Monster player gets double rewards if they win a suicide monster hunt (normal "loss" rewards if they lose).



This is good info and not explicitly clear on your google site. I thought from reading your site I just needed to ask permission for one and why it should be allowed. Then, grabbing your permission follow normal rules. Which is find a ref, someone to run the monster and they pick everything like normal.






Josep and Jayce challenge a suicide monster hunt.
  Match Type: Monster Hunt
BP/Hero Limit: No Limit BP / standard 3 hero point limit/suicide difficulty
      Referee: Boadecia
Participant 1: Jayce, augmented human, Master Summoner (17)
Participant 2: Josep, Augmented Human, Wizard (16)
Participant 3: CR 23 suicide challenge, monster(s) played by lyn
          Map: Unknown
     Lighting: Unknown
      Terrain: unknown
        Walls: unknown
         Prep: none
       Extras: No extras.

OOC: Josep pays Jayce's fees.

^Like this?
GM Arkrim
GM, 6468 posts
Game Master
Wed 28 Mar 2018
at 02:58
  • msg #602

Re: OOC Discussion 8

Jayce the Tamer:
GM Arkrim:
Match denied.

1) You need both someone to play the monster and a referee. Neither can be part of any participant's guild.

2) You cannot decide on the map, player, or monster beforehand. Only the CR and first person to accepts accepts. You literally don't know who you're fighting when you sign up for suicide.

3) After agreement to challenges, GM will post the match without a map.

4) Sheets are posted by players.

5) Monster(s) and map are selected by player using monster. GM will consult them beforehand because it is a suicide match rather than a regular monster hunt.

6) Map is posted and initiatives rolled.

7) Starting positions selected.

8) Initiative order begins.

Monster player gets double rewards if they win a suicide monster hunt (normal "loss" rewards if they lose).



This is good info and not explicitly clear on your google site. I thought from reading your site I just needed to ask permission for one and why it should be allowed. Then, grabbing your permission follow normal rules. Which is find a ref, someone to run the monster and they pick everything like normal.






Josep and Jayce challenge a suicide monster hunt.
  Match Type: Monster Hunt
BP/Hero Limit: No Limit BP / standard 3 hero point limit/suicide difficulty
      Referee: Boadecia
Participant 1: Jayce, augmented human, Master Summoner (17)
Participant 2: Josep, Augmented Human, Wizard (16)
Participant 3: CR 23 suicide challenge, monster(s) played by lyn
          Map: Unknown
     Lighting: Unknown
      Terrain: unknown
        Walls: unknown
         Prep: none
       Extras: No extras.

OOC: Josep pays Jayce's fees.

^Like this?

Close.
Jayce the Tamer
Summoner 5,655, 526 posts
Human Summoner
Wed 28 Mar 2018
at 05:59
  • msg #603

Re: OOC Discussion 8


Josep and Jayce challenge a suicide monster hunt.
  Match Type: Monster Hunt
BP/Hero Limit: No Limit BP / standard 3 hero point limit/suicide difficulty
      Referee: Boadecia
Participant 1: Jayce, augmented human, Master Summoner (17)
Participant 2: Josep, Augmented Human, Wizard (16)
Participant 3: CR 23 suicide challenge, unknown monster(s) played by first come first served requiring GM Approval
          Map: Unknown
     Lighting: Unknown
      Terrain: unknown
        Walls: unknown
         Prep: unknown
       Extras: Unknown

OOC: Josep pays Jayce's fees.


Josep post the challenge when you get here. ^ Should do it.
This message was last edited by the player at 06:03, Wed 28 Mar 2018.
Brakt
Brawler 4,694, 643 posts
Ogre Brawler
The Order
Wed 28 Mar 2018
at 06:17
  • msg #604

Re: OOC Discussion 8

Anyone up for match? With Brakt or Lyn? :)
Ankou
Druid 3,987, 617 posts
Aug. Human Goliath Druid
Thaumaturgical Alliance
Wed 28 Mar 2018
at 09:12
  • msg #605

Re: OOC Discussion 8

I’ll fight you, unless Latro is ready to put his Grave Knight to the test.
Jayce the Tamer
Summoner 5,655, 528 posts
Human Summoner
Wed 28 Mar 2018
at 09:16
  • msg #606

Re: OOC Discussion 8

Alright! Josep and I have a CR 23 suicide challenge up on a first come first served basis for the monster(s).

Get double BP off us if you Win!

Extra hero point will be worth it if we win right Josep?
This message was last edited by the player at 09:20, Wed 28 Mar 2018.
Josep Gavinho
Wizard 4,387, 1405 posts
Human Wizard
Thaumaturgical Alliance
Wed 28 Mar 2018
at 09:59
  • msg #607

Re: OOC Discussion 8

If?

That’s not the attitude that got me to the top line of that leaderboard;)
Brakt
Brawler 4,694, 644 posts
Ogre Brawler
The Order
Wed 28 Mar 2018
at 10:37
  • msg #608

Re: OOC Discussion 8

Ugrim, want to ref and get some free bp to catch up?
Madam Opal
Witch 993, 673 posts
Ratfolk Witch
Shadow's Caress
Wed 28 Mar 2018
at 13:53
  • msg #609

Re: OOC Discussion 8

Well, good thing Opal is a more experimental character than anything else, otherwise i might be salty about that extra 1% of her BP getting sapped for agreeing with the GM. :P
Grunyar Fangblood
Summoner 3,236, 812 posts
Skinwalker Summoner
Wed 28 Mar 2018
at 13:56
  • msg #610

Re: OOC Discussion 8

You know Latro I was really looking to change things up and move away from master summoner but with your electric immunitie kind rules out my front runner Storm Caller :(
Ankou
Druid 3,987, 618 posts
Aug. Human Goliath Druid
Thaumaturgical Alliance
Wed 28 Mar 2018
at 13:57
  • msg #611

Re: OOC Discussion 8

That’s what you get for being such a chatterbox ;)
Cackling all the time and such.

@Grunyar:
He can’t be immune to everything, I’m sure there’s a build out there with the right element.
(I can hear Latro in the background browsing amazon for rings of energy resistance :)
This message was last edited by the player at 13:58, Wed 28 Mar 2018.
Latro Dectus
Antipaladin 3,623, 1590 posts
Drow N. Antipaladin
Shadow's Caress
Wed 28 Mar 2018
at 14:16
  • msg #612

Re: OOC Discussion 8

In reply to Grunyar Fangblood (msg # 610):

Hey, don't let little ol me stop you from chasing your dreams. If you want to zap people with electricity be my guest.


@ankou,
if i play my energy immunities right, all i'll need is two separate rings of energy resistance 30 (or, you know, one ring of energy resistance 30 to two different elements.)
I'm already immune to cold and electricity.
I can potentially be immune to fire or acid if i so choose to be.
all thats left is sonic damage and the one other energy i may or may not have chosen and Latro slowly but surly becomes a walking damage barrier.
Literally the only thing i can't stop is Positive energy or Positive channeling abilities so if someone wants to build a Cleric or a Paladin to stop me, go ahead and try your luck. ;P
This message was last edited by the player at 14:23, Wed 28 Mar 2018.
Ankou
Druid 3,987, 619 posts
Aug. Human Goliath Druid
Thaumaturgical Alliance
Wed 28 Mar 2018
at 14:27
  • msg #613

Re: OOC Discussion 8

Well far from me to goad you into revealing your build beyond reason, but what about Force?
Maybe you should fight Brakt until Grunyar is freed up from the never ending monster hunt.
At what point do they start rolling constitution checks for starvation ?
Latro Dectus
Antipaladin 3,623, 1591 posts
Drow N. Antipaladin
Shadow's Caress
Wed 28 Mar 2018
at 14:32
  • msg #614

Re: OOC Discussion 8

In reply to Ankou (msg # 613):

Oh yeah i guess force damage is a thing too. But there are ways to stop that too i'm certain.


And I mean, I suppose a match with Brakt will end quickly enough.

Brakt?
Jayce the Tamer
Summoner 5,655, 535 posts
Human Summoner
Wed 28 Mar 2018
at 14:34
  • msg #615

Re: OOC Discussion 8

Latro Dectus:
In reply to Grunyar Fangblood (msg # 610):

Hey, don't let little ol me stop you from chasing your dreams. If you want to zap people with electricity be my guest.


@ankou,
if i play my energy immunities right, all i'll need is two separate rings of energy resistance 30 (or, you know, one ring of energy resistance 30 to two different elements.)
I'm already immune to cold and electricity.
I can potentially be immune to fire or acid if i so choose to be.
all thats left is sonic damage and the one other energy i may or may not have chosen and Latro slowly but surly becomes a walking damage barrier.
Literally the only thing i can't stop is Positive energy or Positive channeling abilities so if someone wants to build a Cleric or a Paladin to stop me, go ahead and try your luck. ;P

Gain some bp and I'll throw angels at you. Literal angels. Unfortunately, I don't gain enough BP off you to move anywhere. Going from level 20 to level 21 is 7,500 BP. 21 to 22 another 7,500 and I need to buy gear.
This message was last edited by the player at 14:35, Wed 28 Mar 2018.
Brakt
Brawler 4,694, 645 posts
Ogre Brawler
The Order
Thu 29 Mar 2018
at 00:13
  • msg #616

Re: OOC Discussion 8

I mean, I won't say no to a fight. You're a bit tricksy, but I don't need energy to beat you to a pulp... Maybe?

Just don't summon 2 cloud giants at once and I'm good.

I'll accept anything you throw my way at the moment, so just pop a challenge up and I'll say yes :)
This message was last edited by the player at 00:16, Thu 29 Mar 2018.
Latro Dectus
Antipaladin 3,623, 1592 posts
Drow N. Antipaladin
Shadow's Caress
Thu 29 Mar 2018
at 00:46
  • msg #617

Re: OOC Discussion 8

In reply to Brakt (msg # 616):

fortunantly, you dont need to worry about Latro summoning much of anything right now.

Let me do some quick touchups and i'll post up a standard challenge.

Ankou, i assume you still want to ref?
Brakt
Brawler 4,694, 647 posts
Ogre Brawler
The Order
Thu 29 Mar 2018
at 02:47
  • msg #618

Re: OOC Discussion 8

Okay, so update. Brakt has just requested to dual-class as a Brawlizard. So just keep that in mind when you post the challenge.
Brakt
Brawler 4,694, 648 posts
Ogre Brawler
The Order
Thu 29 Mar 2018
at 04:01
  • msg #619

Re: OOC Discussion 8

Do you have any idea how tempting it was to reset as a centaur Cavalier just so I could multiclass into Charizard?

Small things lol
This message was last edited by the player at 04:02, Thu 29 Mar 2018.
Latro Dectus
Antipaladin 3,623, 1593 posts
Drow N. Antipaladin
Shadow's Caress
Thu 29 Mar 2018
at 04:06
  • msg #620

Re: OOC Discussion 8

In reply to Brakt (msg # 619):

Those small things.

I'm still waiting for the day someone decides to play a Bardbarian.
Brakt
Brawler 4,694, 649 posts
Ogre Brawler
The Order
Thu 29 Mar 2018
at 04:38
  • msg #621

Re: OOC Discussion 8

You mean a Skald?

Ugrim can always reclass to support you in battle :P
Latro Dectus
Antipaladin 3,623, 1594 posts
Drow N. Antipaladin
Shadow's Caress
Thu 29 Mar 2018
at 05:35
  • msg #622

Re: OOC Discussion 8

In reply to Brakt (msg # 621):

If we were ever allowed to play our alts at the same time in the same match that is. :P

Also, i'm waiting for arkrim to give the suicide monster hunt the go ahead before i pos the challenge.

I haven't heard from Ankou if he wants to ref or not for this match yet.
This message was last edited by the player at 05:38, Thu 29 Mar 2018.
Ugrim
Barbarian 1,868, 537 posts
Adv. Orc Barbar/Fighter
Shadow's Caress
Thu 29 Mar 2018
at 05:41
  • msg #623

Re: OOC Discussion 8

while we're on the subject of Ugrim, I'm going to be giving him the reclass treatment.

Yes, thats right, ugrim will no longer be a barbarian.

Instead he's going to be a Bloodmagus™

I have to work out the full logistics of it before i decide if its actually something i want to do but i'm pretty sure that's where the arena's strongest fighter is headed.
Brakt
Brawlizard 4,224, 650 posts
Ogre Brawler
The Order
Thu 29 Mar 2018
at 05:48
  • msg #624

Re: OOC Discussion 8

I remember hearing something somewhere that we could?

IE, we could do something like a 2v2 or monster hunt where Brakt and Lyn could team up vs Ugrim and Latro.

Maybe I imagined it? I don't know.

All good on waiting, I have to wait for my reset to go through anyway and hope I calculated the fee right.


Bloodmagus huh? I mean, could be interesting, 4 classes at once
Brakt
Brawlizard 4,224, 651 posts
Ogre Brawler
The Order
Thu 29 Mar 2018
at 05:53
  • msg #625

Re: OOC Discussion 8

Correction. I'm not waiting, I'm rebuilding because I can't math :)
Brakt
Brawlizard 4,224, 652 posts
Ogre Brawler
The Order
Thu 29 Mar 2018
at 06:17
  • msg #626

Re: OOC Discussion 8

All right, I'm ready when you are. Off tomorrow for Easter etc etc but I'll keep an eye on my phone to accept when it's finally posted/Monster Hunt is approved
Boadicea
Fighter 4,265, 1054 posts
Advanced Human Fighter
Thu 29 Mar 2018
at 06:47
  • msg #627

Re: OOC Discussion 8

Brakt is right Akrim did say in OOC you could play multiple toons in the same match as long as they are allies
Ankou
Druid 3,987, 620 posts
Aug. Human Goliath Druid
Thaumaturgical Alliance
Thu 29 Mar 2018
at 06:49
  • msg #628

Re: OOC Discussion 8

In reply to Brakt (msg # 626):
 I’ll ref you guys.
Brakt
Brawlizard 4,224, 653 posts
Ogre Brawler
The Order
Thu 29 Mar 2018
at 07:07
  • msg #629

Re: OOC Discussion 8

Yeah. Boad and I were planning a monster hunt with our alts, but with some of the huge no spikes lately, it's starting to look like by the time we get there, our only option is going to be fighting the tarrasque lol

Maybe 2 Tarrasques would be the way to go :)
Josep Gavinho
Wizard 4,387, 1409 posts
Human Wizard
Thaumaturgical Alliance
Thu 29 Mar 2018
at 08:31
  • msg #630

Re: OOC Discussion 8

Ugrim going Magus, Brakt wizard... Looks like everyone is getting very aware that not casting spells is no longer a viable option.
Brakt
Brawlizard 4,224, 654 posts
Ogre Brawler
The Order
Thu 29 Mar 2018
at 09:06
  • msg #631

Re: OOC Discussion 8

Who said I was casting spells :o

Let's just say Josep has inspired a few changes :P
Maelstrom
Monk 2,047, 420 posts
Human Monk
SotVD
Fri 30 Mar 2018
at 01:40
  • msg #632

Re: OOC Discussion 8

Josep Gavinho:
Ugrim going Magus, Brakt wizard... Looks like everyone is getting very aware that not casting spells is no longer a viable option.



I disagree! Mighty Maelstrom will take any of you guys on!
Grunyar Fangblood
Summoner 3,236, 814 posts
Skinwalker Summoner
Fri 30 Mar 2018
at 01:42
  • msg #633

Re: OOC Discussion 8

In reply to Maelstrom (msg # 632):

*Cough**cough* Maelstrom casts (has cast) spells to :)
Maelstrom
Monk 2,047, 421 posts
Human Monk
SotVD
Fri 30 Mar 2018
at 02:57
  • msg #634

Re: OOC Discussion 8

In reply to Grunyar Fangblood (msg # 633):

Ha, yeah so Maelstrom uses dust and other magical items.

Is ki technically magic?
Latro Dectus
Antipaladin 3,623, 1595 posts
Drow N. Antipaladin
Shadow's Caress
Fri 30 Mar 2018
at 04:18
  • msg #635

Re: OOC Discussion 8

Is Ki a supernatural ability? Then technically yes.
Josep Gavinho
Wizard 4,387, 1411 posts
Human Wizard
Thaumaturgical Alliance
Fri 30 Mar 2018
at 10:33
  • msg #636

Re: OOC Discussion 8

Hi Boss, it’s been 48h since Lyn accepted to run the monster in our suicidal hunt, is anything holding us up?
GM Arkrim
GM, 6476 posts
Game Master
Fri 30 Mar 2018
at 18:16
  • msg #637

Re: OOC Discussion 8

Currently busy buying a house and moving. GM out for a few days.
Josep Gavinho
Wizard 4,387, 1413 posts
Human Wizard
Thaumaturgical Alliance
Fri 30 Mar 2018
at 18:19
  • msg #638

Re: OOC Discussion 8

In reply to GM Arkrim (msg # 637):
 You’re saying this as if you’re RL living situation was more important than my earning BP. Unbelievable.
Grunyar Fangblood
Summoner 3,236, 815 posts
Skinwalker Summoner
Fri 30 Mar 2018
at 18:25
  • msg #639

Re: OOC Discussion 8

In reply to GM Arkrim (msg # 637):

Congratulations, hopefully some place warm or with a great view or both
This message was last edited by the player at 18:26, Fri 30 Mar 2018.
Latro Dectus
Antipaladin 3,623, 1596 posts
Drow N. Antipaladin
Shadow's Caress
Sat 31 Mar 2018
at 20:42
  • msg #640

Re: OOC Discussion 8

Ok Brakt, look good to you?

LATRO challenges BRAKT.

   Match Type: 1v1
BP/Hero Limit: No Limit BP / Standard 3 Hero Points
      Referee: Ankou
Participant 1: Latro Dectus, Drow Noble Graveknight, Antipaladin 13
Participant 2: Brakt, Ogre, Brawlizard ???
Participant 3: {None}
Participant 4: {None}
          Map: Large Colloseum
     Lighting: Standard
      Terrain: Standard
        Walls: Standard
         Prep: 1
       Extras: {None}

Jayce the Tamer
Summoner 5,655, 538 posts
Human Summoner
Sat 31 Mar 2018
at 22:20
  • msg #641

Re: OOC Discussion 8

Well, I guess it only makes sense we the universe gave me a nat 1 this time when since I got a 20 last time. And rubbed it in my opponent's face. Be gentle Lyn. Be gentle. Hahaha
Brakt
Brawlizard 4,224, 655 posts
Ogre Brawler
The Order
Sun 1 Apr 2018
at 00:50
  • msg #642

Re: OOC Discussion 8

Latro Dectus:
Ok Brakt, look good to you?

LATRO challenges BRAKT.

   Match Type: 1v1
BP/Hero Limit: No Limit BP / Standard 3 Hero Points
      Referee: Ankou
Participant 1: Latro Dectus, Drow Noble Graveknight, Antipaladin 13
Participant 2: Brakt, Ogre, Brawlizard ???
Participant 3: {None}
Participant 4: {None}
          Map: Large Colloseum
     Lighting: Standard
      Terrain: Standard
        Walls: Standard
         Prep: 1
       Extras: {None}

Sounds good. Brawlizard 16. Pop it up, I'll accept later today :)
Brakt
Brawlizard 4,224, 657 posts
Ogre Brawler
The Order
Mon 2 Apr 2018
at 05:14
  • msg #643

Re: OOC Discussion 8

Ankou, you going to accept our challenge? :)
Grunyar Fangblood
Summoner 3,236, 817 posts
Skinwalker Summoner
Mon 2 Apr 2018
at 05:46
  • msg #644

Re: OOC Discussion 8

I do not plan on using any of those spells on you Latro just realized I couldn't cast them even though I had them on my known spell list forever figured I would try to get them legal in case I needed one
Vry
Sorcerer 3,046, 599 posts
Advanced Gnome
Shadow's Caress
Mon 2 Apr 2018
at 11:46
  • msg #645

Re: OOC Discussion 8

After a long and heavy monster fight (which I think will be concluded before next monday, I'd like something light. Just to get Vry out in the arena again. As such, I'd like to fight anyone in a 1v1 duel with a BP limit of 9 (nine) - preferably in a small colosseum. Personally I am in love with a little level 1 fighting every now and then (that's the best part of starting new campaigns!), also it would be a a quick battle - no 20 rounds and three months. ;) It takes a simple character build while the real one is being worked out in the scratchpad.

Any takers?

I do hope Arkrim is not against such a self imposed BP limit - I've seen it used many times last year but to lower the one with more BP to the level of the one with fewer BP - not to lower both. I find no clear rules on what the "BP Limit" part of the challenge is supposed to mean however.
Jayce the Tamer
Summoner 5,655, 546 posts
Human Summoner
Mon 2 Apr 2018
at 11:53
  • msg #646

Re: OOC Discussion 8

In reply to Vry (msg # 645):

Any extra is legal as long as both parties agree. Arkrim has also said that millions of times.

In the past, I've been given 200 BP increases. there was a match with more than 1 prep round if I'm not mistaken. Both parties could agree to add templates at no cost.



REMEMBER:
Even if rules don't allow it by default, you can still put it in as a match "extra" if you want, but then you need to negotiate with your opponent. You can literally make up rules if you want, you just have to convince your opponent to agree to it.

However, any vagueness or misunderstanding over things not normally allowed in the arena will automatically be ruled in favor of the opposing party from the one who made the suggestion/proposal/request, so always be very careful about doing these things.

This message was last edited by the player at 11:55, Mon 02 Apr 2018.
Vry
Sorcerer 3,046, 600 posts
Advanced Gnome
Shadow's Caress
Mon 2 Apr 2018
at 12:01
  • msg #647

Re: OOC Discussion 8

In reply to Jayce the Tamer (msg # 646):

Alright, sounds fine then! :)
Jayce the Tamer
Summoner 5,655, 547 posts
Human Summoner
Mon 2 Apr 2018
at 12:04
  • msg #648

Re: OOC Discussion 8

In reply to Vry (msg # 647):

I would never agree to such a match. If I win I would get 3 BP. Haha. BP earned is based on maximum allowed BP or Maximum available. Whichever is lower.
Vry
Sorcerer 3,046, 601 posts
Advanced Gnome
Shadow's Caress
Mon 2 Apr 2018
at 12:17
  • msg #649

Re: OOC Discussion 8

Yeah, I know! It would give a duel played however, and at least for me it would be a much needed break from complicated matches :) Maybe no-one else sees the same fun in it, and I'll be up for standard duels after this proposed mini-duel or instead of it...
This message was last edited by the player at 12:18, Mon 02 Apr 2018.
GM Arkrim
GM, 6481 posts
Game Master
Mon 2 Apr 2018
at 13:59
  • msg #650

Re: OOC Discussion 8

In reply to Vry (msg # 649):

You could do a whole bunch of "low level" stuff that would be interesting.

Level 1 BUT you have HP as level 5 and every 1d4+1 rounds something about the terrain changes and shifts, making it hard to survive and even separating you from your opponent and line of sight.

Something like that would be very much like a cinematic battle from a movie or show.

I'd encourage that creativity actually.

Just be careful when making up your own stuff. It can't be vague or your referee might shoot you down.
This message was last edited by the GM at 14:00, Mon 02 Apr 2018.
Vry
Sorcerer 3,046, 604 posts
Advanced Gnome
Shadow's Caress
Mon 2 Apr 2018
at 14:06
  • msg #651

Re: OOC Discussion 8

In reply to GM Arkrim (msg # 650):

Haha, sounds great! Now, I just have to wait and see if anyone else also enjoys level 1 fighting :D
Vry
Sorcerer 3,046, 605 posts
Advanced Gnome
Shadow's Caress
Mon 2 Apr 2018
at 14:18
  • msg #652

Re: OOC Discussion 8

Also, technically, the BP limit I propose would actually have to be more like 44... Or worked out in a different way, as the players have to afford the 25 points for attributes, a race, and then a few pieces of equipment. Whether or not there should be room to go for a cheaper race and level two, or an advanced/more powerful race - is up for debate. Personally I could go for rules allowing *any race except large ones (since they get HP and strength bonuses worth probably half or a whole level at level 1), *level 1 only, *equipment for up to 9BP.
GM Arkrim
GM, 6484 posts
Game Master
Mon 2 Apr 2018
at 14:53
  • msg #653

Re: OOC Discussion 8

In reply to Vry (msg # 652):

Default the arena has you start with 50 before bonuses. I wouldn't go below that honestly. It's a good starting point.
Vry
Sorcerer 3,046, 606 posts
Advanced Gnome
Shadow's Caress
Mon 2 Apr 2018
at 14:59
  • msg #654

Re: OOC Discussion 8

In reply to GM Arkrim (msg # 653):

Right, yeah it got complicated accounting for different races ^^
This message was last edited by the player at 14:59, Mon 02 Apr 2018.
Vry
Sorcerer 3,046, 608 posts
Advanced Gnome
Shadow's Caress
Mon 2 Apr 2018
at 19:57
  • msg #655

Re: OOC Discussion 8

LOL @ the perils of a suicide monster hunt :D
Jayce the Tamer
Summoner 5,655, 548 posts
Human Summoner
Tue 3 Apr 2018
at 00:05
  • msg #656

Re: OOC Discussion 8

Vry:
LOL @ the perils of a suicide monster hunt :D


We still have a 50/50 shot at winning. I guess those monsters were needed to make it FEEL like a suicide hunt. Otherwise Josep and  I would wreck most things lol.
Igar-Kruk
Barbarimonk 97, 1 post
Gnoll Barbarian/Monk
Wed 4 Apr 2018
at 13:49
  • msg #657

Re: OOC Discussion 8

Hello everyone!

No wait, considering the BP levels of everyone else, I think "Ave, morituri te salutant!" would be more appropriate. ;p
Ugrim
Bloodmagus 1,681, 538 posts
Adv. Orc Barbar/Fighter
Shadow's Caress
Wed 4 Apr 2018
at 14:00
  • msg #658

Re: OOC Discussion 8

In reply to Igar-Kruk (msg # 657):

B-barbarian/monk?

I think we're instantly friends
Igar-Kruk
Barbarimonk 97, 2 posts
Gnoll Barbarian/Monk
Wed 4 Apr 2018
at 14:12
  • msg #659

Re: OOC Discussion 8

In reply to Ugrim (msg # 658):

Ah, you are a fellow admirer of "subtlety", I take it?
Ugrim
Bloodmagus 1,681, 539 posts
Adv. Orc Bloodmagus
Shadow's Caress
Wed 4 Apr 2018
at 14:15
  • msg #660

Re: OOC Discussion 8

In reply to Igar-Kruk (msg # 659):

Ugrim has perfected it into an art form. :P
Though a barbarian monk may surpass him one day. But not today, That's for certain. Still i cant wait to see you pummle the living heck out of people/monsters
Jayce the Tamer
Summoner 5,655, 554 posts
Human Summoner
Wed 4 Apr 2018
at 15:12
  • msg #661

Re: OOC Discussion 8

Actually latro, I was. I exceed the
 Hard cap for cmd by 2 points in my match vs brakt.
Latro Dectus
Antipaladin 3,623, 1603 posts
Drow N. Antipaladin
Shadow's Caress
Wed 4 Apr 2018
at 15:45
  • msg #662

Re: OOC Discussion 8

In reply to Jayce the Tamer (msg # 661):

Oh... well.... ok...

but i'll be the first to hit the cap for attack rolls .:P
Jayce the Tamer
Summoner 5,655, 555 posts
Human Summoner
Wed 4 Apr 2018
at 15:46
  • msg #663

Re: OOC Discussion 8

In reply to Latro Dectus (msg # 662):

ankou did that against me. 6 over.
Latro Dectus
Antipaladin 3,623, 1604 posts
Drow N. Antipaladin
Shadow's Caress
Wed 4 Apr 2018
at 17:48
  • msg #664

Re: OOC Discussion 8

YEAH WELL IM THE EVILEST!!!!!

I've gotta be the first PC to use a template at least so i'll just take that and a call it a day.
This message was last edited by the player at 17:59, Wed 04 Apr 2018.
Igar-Kruk
Barbarimonk 97, 3 posts
Gnoll Barbarian/Monk
Wed 4 Apr 2018
at 18:11
  • msg #665

Re: OOC Discussion 8

Latro Dectus:
YEAH WHELL IM THE EVILEST!!!!!

Your theme song? => https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QxJrjV4PNXA

Vry:
After a long and heavy monster fight (which I think will be concluded before next monday, I'd like something light. Just to get Vry out in the arena again. As such, I'd like to fight anyone in a 1v1 duel with a BP limit of 9 (nine) - preferably in a small colosseum. Personally I am in love with a little level 1 fighting every now and then (that's the best part of starting new campaigns!), also it would be a a quick battle - no 20 rounds and three months. ;) It takes a simple character build while the real one is being worked out in the scratchpad.

Any takers?

Well, your low BP idea sounds interesting. Igar-Kruk doesn't work under level 2, though.
This message was last edited by the player at 18:12, Wed 04 Apr 2018.
Vry
Sorcerer 3,046, 612 posts
Advanced Gnome
Shadow's Caress
Wed 4 Apr 2018
at 19:15
  • msg #666

Re: OOC Discussion 8

In reply to Igar-Kruk (msg # 665):

I can be flexible :) Gotta finish the current fight. Meanwhile do you have any requests for maps or extras? No water or such obstacles between the combatants though, would take too much resources from those two levels :P
Igar-Kruk
Barbarimonk 97, 4 posts
Gnoll Barbarian/Monk
Wed 4 Apr 2018
at 19:31
  • msg #667

Re: OOC Discussion 8

In reply to Vry (msg # 666):

As the post count to my left says, I am rather new. So... Keep it simple?
Josep Gavinho
Wizard 4,387, 1435 posts
Human Wizard
Thaumaturgical Alliance
Wed 4 Apr 2018
at 19:37
  • msg #668

Re: OOC Discussion 8

@Latro: you definitely deserve the title of Most Evilest in the arena.
You were tied for handsomest with Vry and Jayce, but with your latest addition, I’m not sure :/
Vry
Sorcerer 3,046, 613 posts
Advanced Gnome
Shadow's Caress
Wed 4 Apr 2018
at 19:58
  • msg #669

Re: OOC Discussion 8

In reply to Igar-Kruk (msg # 667):

Haha, alright! Small colosseum, no flying, no invis, max level 2, max 50BP should probably do it!

Welcome to the arena! It’s hard to tell who’s someone’s alt and who’s a new one. Glad to see new faces though!
Igar-Kruk
Barbarimonk 97, 5 posts
Gnoll Barbarian/Monk
Wed 4 Apr 2018
at 21:12
  • msg #670

Re: OOC Discussion 8

In reply to Vry (msg # 669):

Sounds good. And thanks for the welcome! ;)
Jayce the Tamer
Summoner 5,655, 559 posts
Human Summoner
Thu 5 Apr 2018
at 13:41
  • msg #671

Re: OOC Discussion 8

No!!! Don't hurt josep!
Latro Dectus
Antipaladin 3,623, 1606 posts
Drow N. Antipaladin
Shadow's Caress
Thu 5 Apr 2018
at 17:59
  • msg #672

Re: OOC Discussion 8

If Monster hunt #19 isn't a JoJo's reference all of you have failed me.
Jayce the Tamer
Summoner 5,655, 567 posts
Human Summoner
Sat 7 Apr 2018
at 08:48
  • msg #673

Re: OOC Discussion 8

Brakt, I would seriously go read Poll 34. That will tell you your answer. Seriously, SERIOUSLY seriously go read Poll 34.
Jayce the Tamer
Summoner 5,655, 570 posts
Human Summoner
Sun 8 Apr 2018
at 14:39
  • msg #674

Re: OOC Discussion 8

Vry, BP 500, CR 12.
This message was last edited by the player at 14:40, Sun 08 Apr 2018.
Vry
Sorcerer 3,046, 620 posts
Advanced Gnome
Shadow's Caress
Sun 8 Apr 2018
at 14:48
  • msg #675

Re: OOC Discussion 8

In reply to Jayce the Tamer (msg # 674):

Thanks!
I had such high hopes with all them sneak attack dice with my Denizens of Leng.
Vry
Sorcerer 3,046, 621 posts
Advanced Gnome
Shadow's Caress
Sun 8 Apr 2018
at 21:04
  • msg #676

Re: OOC Discussion 8

I do have to say that it was a good fight! It was my first attempt here with sneak attack. Lessons learned:
* Corners are very effective (when it comes to avoiding being flanked)
* Levitate is no match for flight
* Full round sneak attacks are hard to get in at all, it will take much more sofisticated planning than just going 4v2 to accomplish that
* Narrow tunnels might be cool to sneak in, they may very well be where traps and ambushes happen and rogues are needed the most, but they are still not the rogue’s friend (see point one).

:p
Madam Opal
Witch 993, 687 posts
Ratfolk Witch
Shadow's Caress
Sun 8 Apr 2018
at 21:15
  • msg #677

Re: OOC Discussion 8

honestly, opal was starting to run out of things she could do. Even with all her methods of putting people to sleep its still only a 1/day thing.
However, still Opal had one last final trick up her sleeve and i'm kinda glad i didn't need to use it. It just means i get to save it for next time in case it needs to happen.
Somatra, i trust you will keep my secret until it's revealed. ;)
Josep Gavinho
Wizard 4,387, 1442 posts
Human Wizard
Thaumaturgical Alliance
Sun 8 Apr 2018
at 22:04
  • msg #678

Re: OOC Discussion 8

In reply to Madam Opal (msg # 677):
 Wow, I hope you guys get more than your share of a win against 500BP!!
Jayce the Tamer
Summoner 5,655, 572 posts
Human Summoner
Mon 9 Apr 2018
at 03:11
  • msg #679

Re: OOC Discussion 8

Championship was like 3 months. I eont think you all got extra BP. You did get a belt you're not even using.
Somatra
Slayer 494, 69 posts
Fetchling Slayer
Mon 9 Apr 2018
at 05:43
  • msg #680

Re: OOC Discussion 8

Your secret's safe with me Opal.

Yeah, a good chunk of my plan went out the window when it turned out the monsters were immune to poison, nevermind the DR against cold dmg.  The smoke pellets at least came in handy.  Thank you to Vry for the map with all the twisty halls and corners to pop out from around ^-^
Igar-Kruk
Barbarimonk 97, 6 posts
Gnoll Barbarian/Monk
Mon 9 Apr 2018
at 15:32
  • msg #681

Re: OOC Discussion 8

In reply to Vry (msg # 676):

Ratfolk rogues working in tandem make flanking really easy.

Otherwise... Yeah, getting full sneak attacks in does require some work. Having an ally capable to summoning reinforcements does the trick in the game I DM.
Josep Gavinho
Wizard 4,387, 1445 posts
Human Wizard
Thaumaturgical Alliance
Mon 9 Apr 2018
at 15:48
  • msg #682

Re: OOC Discussion 8

All of that is only relevant if you’re fighting something that isn’t immune to critical.
Which a smart gladiator should be starting level 10-12.
Vry
Sorcerer 3,046, 622 posts
Advanced Gnome
Shadow's Caress
Mon 9 Apr 2018
at 16:59
  • msg #683

Re: OOC Discussion 8

In reply to Josep Gavinho (msg # 682):

Haha, Ankou has shown the way for those of us that weren't smart enough before!
Ankou
Druid 3,987, 636 posts
Aug. Human Goliath Druid
Thaumaturgical Alliance
Mon 9 Apr 2018
at 17:02
  • msg #684

Re: OOC Discussion 8

And at 50bp, that was is an absolute steal.

But there are so many other ways to do that!
Igar-Kruk
Barbarimonk 97, 7 posts
Gnoll Barbarian/Monk
Mon 9 Apr 2018
at 17:08
  • msg #685

Re: OOC Discussion 8

*has no idea how*
Ankou
Druid 3,987, 637 posts
Aug. Human Goliath Druid
Thaumaturgical Alliance
Mon 9 Apr 2018
at 17:11
  • msg #686

Re: OOC Discussion 8

Well not with 97bp.
But in due time ;)

Do you want to join a team fight?
It sounds like it would be your best bet to a lot of quick BP.
That or a free monster hunt. I don’t recommend suicide unless your a shenanigans Gatling though.
Vry
Sorcerer 3,046, 623 posts
Advanced Gnome
Shadow's Caress
Mon 9 Apr 2018
at 17:17
  • msg #687

Re: OOC Discussion 8

I've got dibs on Igar-Kruk for a quick duel! Speaking of which, any referees here?
Jayce the Tamer
Summoner 5,655, 575 posts
Human Summoner
Mon 9 Apr 2018
at 17:55
  • msg #688

Re: OOC Discussion 8

Definitely don't suicide.

After josep and I win, I have to duel or get jumped by people to test my God like power.
Josep Gavinho
Wizard 4,387, 1446 posts
Human Wizard
Thaumaturgical Alliance
Mon 9 Apr 2018
at 18:49
  • msg #689

Re: OOC Discussion 8

What’s a Bandersnatch head like ? Do you think it will look good on the mantelpiece by my office in the guild house?
This message was last edited by the player at 19:21, Mon 09 Apr 2018.
Jayce the Tamer
Summoner 5,655, 576 posts
Human Summoner
Mon 9 Apr 2018
at 19:16
  • msg #690

Re: OOC Discussion 8

Josep Gavinho:
What’s a Brandersnatch head like ? Do you think it will look good on the mantelpiece by my office in the guild house?

It definitely will. Make sure to poke it with extended reach everburning torch. Make sure the antimagic field never comes back. Antimagic field feels filthy to the touch. Whatever wizard invented that spell needs a Disintegrate to the face.
Grunyar Fangblood
Summoner 3,236, 822 posts
Skinwalker Summoner
Tue 10 Apr 2018
at 05:36
  • msg #691

Re: OOC Discussion 8

Way to go me, posted rewards for monster hunt half asleep and forgot to put myself in.  250 BP gone :(
Jayce the Tamer
Summoner 5,655, 578 posts
Human Summoner
Tue 10 Apr 2018
at 05:47
  • msg #692

Re: OOC Discussion 8

Grunyar Fangblood:
Way to go me, posted rewards for monster hunt half asleep and forgot to put myself in.  250 BP gone :(

2-3 months of rules checking deserves a bump since you can't control the actions of the players. Nor give either hints etc. While I may not be inclined to give the players extra reward, should be okay for Ref. That's a lot of rules checking.

As a pro level ref(I see you ref A LOT of matches), you should pay the 1% BP and maybe get a bump in pay out due to duration IRL.

PS monster hunt requires your attention.
This message was last edited by the player at 08:30, Tue 10 Apr 2018.
Vry
Sorcerer 3,172, 625 posts
Advanced Gnome
Shadow's Caress
Tue 10 Apr 2018
at 08:19
  • msg #693

Re: OOC Discussion 8

In reply to Grunyar Fangblood (msg # 691):

Ooh, after that massive job! You deserve the beepees, all of them!
Brakt
Brawlizard 4,224, 676 posts
Ogre Brawler
The Order
Tue 10 Apr 2018
at 09:26
  • msg #694

Re: OOC Discussion 8

I think I need to slow down, make sure I know what I'm doing, and don't forget any AoOs. What should of been the easiest suicide hunt ever is now going to be a really slow and painful process... :/

And now Brakt is stuck without a hammer since he packed the wrong belt lol
Josep Gavinho
Wizard 4,387, 1448 posts
Human Wizard
Thaumaturgical Alliance
Tue 10 Apr 2018
at 09:38
  • msg #695

Re: OOC Discussion 8

I now imagine Brakt as Batman, frustrated and hitting on his utility belt: “Dammit, that’s not my hammer-retrieving belt!” *retrieves nail polish and rouge from fannypack*
Jayce the Tamer
Summoner 5,655, 582 posts
Human Summoner
Tue 10 Apr 2018
at 09:57
  • msg #696

Re: OOC Discussion 8

Brakt:
I think I need to slow down, make sure I know what I'm doing, and don't forget any AoOs. What should of been the easiest suicide hunt ever is now going to be a really slow and painful process... :/

And now Brakt is stuck without a hammer since he packed the wrong belt lol

You could yield after round 7 when I demolish your HPs(that should be enough to drop you to half life or less).
This message was last edited by the player at 10:17, Tue 10 Apr 2018.
Vry
Sorcerer 3,172, 626 posts
Advanced Gnome
Shadow's Caress
Tue 10 Apr 2018
at 10:55
  • msg #697

Re: OOC Discussion 8

Pretty sure there is a ruling on opening and closing eyes in the old battle royale that was referred to some months ago - I think by Josep, when Latro was levitating in a no-fly-game. Can’t find it now due to awkward scrolling on phone, but I think I remember it being ruled as possible once/round (either opening or closing, that is). Anyone else remembers? It’s important we have a balanced ruling on this, since closed eyes during one’s round reduces the possible 80%+ miss chance with mirror image to 50%, while open eyes after one’s round let’s one maintain a proper ac and take AoOs...
Brakt
Brawlizard 4,224, 678 posts
Ogre Brawler
The Order
Wed 11 Apr 2018
at 10:12
  • msg #698

Re: OOC Discussion 8

Eyes once a round is the ruling that I remember. That's how I played the championship anyway. Closed eyes to attack then left them closed until next round. Blind-Fight feats are fun.
Latro Dectus
Antipaladin 3,623, 1619 posts
Drow N. Antipaladin
Shadow's Caress
Wed 11 Apr 2018
at 12:04
  • msg #699

Re: OOC Discussion 8

Quick gladiator poll

Enlarge person (and by effect reduce person as well.)
Once something leaves your person, that thing is instantly returned to its normal size.
does that thing:
A. Stay its normal size until the spell is cast again with it in your possession, even if you pick it up while still under the effects of the spell.
B. Return to it's augmented size when picked back up while under the effects of the spell?

you can post how you've personally seen it played in other games and how you personally view it to be. all answers and explanations are welcome.

Me personally, I've always seen enlarge and reduce person played as "A" so that's always what I've believe it should be.
Jayce the Tamer
Summoner 5,655, 590 posts
Human Summoner
Wed 11 Apr 2018
at 12:13
  • msg #700

Re: OOC Discussion 8

why are you polling?

https://www.d20pfsrd.com/magic...ls/e/enlarge-person/

Enlarge Person:
All equipment worn or carried by a creature is similarly enlarged by the spell. Melee weapons affected by this spell deal more damage (see Table: Medium/Large Weapon Damage). Other magical properties are not affected by this spell. Any enlarged item that leaves an enlarged creature’s possession (including a projectile or thrown weapon) instantly returns to its normal size. This means that thrown and projectile weapons deal their normal damage. Magical properties of enlarged items are not increased by this spell.

Latro Dectus
Antipaladin 3,623, 1620 posts
Drow N. Antipaladin
Shadow's Caress
Wed 11 Apr 2018
at 12:20
  • msg #701

Re: OOC Discussion 8

just gathering player opinion. (possibly for my own nefarious ends. ;P)

apparently it's a hotly debated topic on the internet on if items picked up by an enlarged/reduced person grow/shrink to match their aquierer.

I take it i can put you down as "A" then?
Jayce the Tamer
Summoner 5,655, 591 posts
Human Summoner
Wed 11 Apr 2018
at 12:34
  • msg #702

Re: OOC Discussion 8

In reply to Latro Dectus (msg # 701):

Sort of see incoming reply in like 5 minutes

https://www.d20pfsrd.com/magic...Size-and-Magic-Items


Size and Magic Items

When an article of magic clothing or jewelry is discovered, most of the time size shouldn’t be an issue. Many magic garments are made to be easily adjustable, or they adjust themselves magically to the wearer. Size should not keep characters of various kinds from using magic items.

There may be rare exceptions, especially with race-specific items.

Armor and Weapon Sizes: Armor and weapons that are found at random have a 30% chance of being small (01–30), a 60% chance of being Medium (31–90), and a 10% chance of being any other size (91–100).

If a ring leaves your person it moves to its initial size. If you pick it back up it will reshape itself to fit you. However, There are no mentions of this for weapons. Specifically, weapons. It would seem that once thrown, weapon would remain the same size. Almost any other gear type(save maybe shields) would increase in size to be adaptive to whatever your size would be, magic or otherwise.
This message was last edited by the player at 12:47, Wed 11 Apr 2018.
Latro Dectus
Antipaladin 3,623, 1621 posts
Drow N. Antipaladin
Shadow's Caress
Wed 11 Apr 2018
at 13:34
  • msg #703

Re: OOC Discussion 8

In reply to Jayce the Tamer (msg # 702):

Ah, yes that's a fair point.  i would argue that armor would be restricted the same way weapons are as they are items crafted specifically for a creature of a certain size but wondrous items and magic rings and the like would certainly magically resize themselves to fit the wearer.
however, I don't see armor being an issue as far as enlarge and reduce person go unless someone who is enlarged/reduced casts guardian armor so it's basically a mute point.
Vry
Sorcerer 3,172, 627 posts
Advanced Gnome
Shadow's Caress
Wed 11 Apr 2018
at 13:56
  • msg #704

Re: OOC Discussion 8

A.
I can really see why it would be B, given that anything on the person is enlarged when the spell is cast, but with B one wouldn’t be able to use enlarge to carry and lift heavy things; grapple, disarm and steal would interact weirdly with the spell; any interaction with the environment would really become quite risky. Carrying a door broken off a wall intended to be used as an improvised weapon, when the spell is cast on you, would mean that the door enlarges. With B, there would be a risk that doors would expand and explode in their frames when the enlarged person tries to open them.
...unless B implies that the items enlarged when the spell is cast are the only ones again enlarged. I find no argument for this however as the spell does not target the items but the person, thus the spell is not active on the items.
Vry
Sorcerer 3,172, 628 posts
Advanced Gnome
Shadow's Caress
Wed 11 Apr 2018
at 21:37
  • msg #705

Re: OOC Discussion 8

GM vs. Closing of Eyes
Post #97: link to a message in this game
Jayce the Tamer
Summoner 5,655, 593 posts
Human Summoner
Wed 11 Apr 2018
at 22:17
  • msg #706

Re: OOC Discussion 8

Vry:
GM vs. Closing of Eyes
Post #97: link to a message in this game

That was not gm arkrim, was from 2015, and sehl hasn't been here in like 3 years. Are you serious? The main point being it is not on the errata site. It might very well be after my match but I don't see why it should be. Rules lawyering is an integral part of this arena. And leaving my eyes closed makes me blinded until my turn.
This message was last edited by the player at 22:31, Wed 11 Apr 2018.
Vry
Sorcerer 3,172, 629 posts
Advanced Gnome
Shadow's Caress
Thu 12 Apr 2018
at 05:18
  • msg #707

Re: OOC Discussion 8

It was the only written thing in the arena about closing one’s eyes, until now, and I do like the ruling (as well as the new one).
Jayce the Tamer
Summoner 5,655, 596 posts
Human Summoner
Thu 12 Apr 2018
at 05:26
  • msg #708

Re: OOC Discussion 8

It would appear I have a knack for leaving new rulings in my wake.
GM Arkrim
GM, 6493 posts
Game Master
Thu 12 Apr 2018
at 11:01
  • msg #709

Re: OOC Discussion 8

Core RAW has holes in it. Errata tries to plug them up but there are a lot. The more you poke at the holes, the more I add plugs to keep the ship afloat.

That's errata in a nut shell. LOL.
Josep Gavinho
Wizard 4,387, 1455 posts
Human Wizard
Thaumaturgical Alliance
Thu 12 Apr 2018
at 13:46
  • msg #710

Re: OOC Discussion 8

In reply to GM Arkrim (msg # 709):
RAW says you can’t have holes in it, we’ve been over this.
Grunyar Fangblood
Summoner 3,236, 823 posts
Skinwalker Summoner
Thu 12 Apr 2018
at 18:52
  • msg #711

Re: OOC Discussion 8

I need to put some quick duels on the leader board so I can match Latro's awesome template who's up
GM Arkrim
GM, 6494 posts
Game Master
Fri 13 Apr 2018
at 01:01
  • msg #712

Re: OOC Discussion 8

In reply to Josep Gavinho (msg # 710):

Hilarious. XD
Somatra
Slayer 577, 71 posts
Fetchling Slayer
Fri 13 Apr 2018
at 05:34
  • msg #713

Re: OOC Discussion 8

In reply to Grunyar Fangblood (msg # 711):

Hey, I'm up for a duel now that I've dipped my toes in.  I'm pretty sure most people are above my weight class regardless, so I've got to start gaining BP somehow.
Grunyar Fangblood
Summoner 3,236, 824 posts
Skinwalker Summoner
Fri 13 Apr 2018
at 13:10
  • msg #714

Re: OOC Discussion 8

In reply to Somatra (msg # 713):

Sounds good I need the match you need the bp all win just need a ref and terms anything special you want?
This message was last edited by the player at 19:22, Fri 13 Apr 2018.
Jayce the Tamer
Summoner 5,655, 603 posts
Human Summoner
Fri 13 Apr 2018
at 19:13
  • msg #715

Re: OOC Discussion 8

Fight with all of your BP Grunyar! Give Somatra a huge boost on a loss. As a handicap, play with summon monster 6s. That should be interesting.

From what I've seen, I may be one of the few that spend more BP on my level than gear.
This message was last edited by the player at 19:15, Fri 13 Apr 2018.
Grunyar Fangblood
Summoner 3,236, 825 posts
Skinwalker Summoner
Fri 13 Apr 2018
at 19:23
  • msg #716

Re: OOC Discussion 8

As summoners we really don't have need for much gear
Jayce the Tamer
Summoner 5,655, 605 posts
Human Summoner
Fri 13 Apr 2018
at 20:11
  • msg #717

Re: OOC Discussion 8

Grunyar Fangblood:
As summoners we really don't have need for much gear



I'd like to use the variant summoning rules. You can equip your summons and you always summon the same creature( angel shield archon zephyr, it would always be that one). If that creature died you can't summon it for like a week or something like that.

Do you know what I'm talking about?

That might be OP though in this arena.
Jayce the Tamer
Summoner 5,655, 605 posts
Human Summoner
Fri 13 Apr 2018
at 20:11
  • msg #717

Re: OOC Discussion 8

Grunyar Fangblood:
As summoners we really don't have need for much gear



I'd like to use the variant summoning rules. You can equip your summons and you always summon the same creature( angel shield archon zephyr, it would always be that one). If that creature died you can't summon it for like a week or something like that.

Do you know what I'm talking about?

That might be OP though in this arena.
Jayce the Tamer
Summoner 5,655, 605 posts
Human Summoner
Fri 13 Apr 2018
at 20:11
  • msg #717

Re: OOC Discussion 8

Grunyar Fangblood:
As summoners we really don't have need for much gear



I'd like to use the variant summoning rules. You can equip your summons and you always summon the same creature( angel shield archon zephyr, it would always be that one). If that creature died you can't summon it for like a week or something like that.

Do you know what I'm talking about?

That might be OP though in this arena.
Grunyar Fangblood
Summoner 3,236, 826 posts
Skinwalker Summoner
Fri 13 Apr 2018
at 20:37
  • msg #718

Re: OOC Discussion 8

In reply to Jayce the Tamer (msg # 717):

Not really that OP Josep or another high powered spell throw drop a dispel or a protection spell and now all that BP is a waste.  It's a Gamble and unless you changed it up opponents will know exactly what was coming.
Jayce the Tamer
Summoner 5,655, 608 posts
Human Summoner
Fri 13 Apr 2018
at 20:54
  • msg #719

Re: OOC Discussion 8

In reply to Grunyar Fangblood (msg # 718):

Th is arena allows that flexibility to switch gear on the fly.

There are ways around antimagic field and dispel magic. I just didn't bring one. Shows me.


You can still pick any creature in the list. It's just always that same one. Always the same crocodile, aurochs, snake, angel, etc.
This message was last edited by the player at 21:09, Fri 13 Apr 2018.
Somatra
Slayer 577, 72 posts
Fetchling Slayer
Sat 14 Apr 2018
at 06:14
  • msg #720

Re: OOC Discussion 8

I'm mostly cool with whatever he wants to summon.  If you really want a handicap have it in a large twisty map with plenty of corners to stealth around (like last map) and darkness.  50% miss chance from Shadow Blending if its at least dim light.
Grunyar Fangblood
Summoner 3,236, 827 posts
Skinwalker Summoner
Sat 14 Apr 2018
at 06:47
  • msg #721

Re: OOC Discussion 8

In reply to Somatra (msg # 720):

We can do tunnels if you like, with dim lightning

Niether of those is a handicap for me :)
Josep Gavinho
Wizard 4,387, 1462 posts
Human Wizard
Thaumaturgical Alliance
Sat 14 Apr 2018
at 07:39
  • msg #722

Re: OOC Discussion 8

Ha! Let’s be honest, the only actual handicap to a Summoner is “no summoning”.
Grunyar Fangblood
Summoner 3,236, 828 posts
Skinwalker Summoner
Sat 14 Apr 2018
at 07:44
  • msg #723

Re: OOC Discussion 8

In reply to Josep Gavinho (msg # 722):

LOL even that is not as much a handicap as you think

Small corridors allows my summons to block paths easily, I routinely use shadow form aspect which gives me 20% normal miss 50% in lower lighted areas :)
Somatra
Slayer 577, 73 posts
Fetchling Slayer
Sat 14 Apr 2018
at 20:59
  • msg #724

Re: OOC Discussion 8

Well, we'll have to see whether Somatra can be sneaky enough to outmaneuver all the minions.  At least with dim light and darkness I get to use all my Racial traits.
Igar-Kruk
Barbarimonk 97, 8 posts
Gnoll Barbarian/Monk
Sat 14 Apr 2018
at 23:01
  • msg #725

Re: OOC Discussion 8

Vry:
I've got dibs on Igar-Kruk for a quick duel! Speaking of which, any referees here?

Bump.
Jayce the Tamer
Summoner 5,655, 610 posts
Human Summoner
Sun 15 Apr 2018
at 00:30
  • msg #726

Re: OOC Discussion 8

Only one person is not actively looking for a fight. Ugrim/madam opal. Maybe see if the collective will ref both matches. Somatra/grunyar. And vry/igar kruk. Igar, you dont seem to be ready to duel though. Your groups are only 0. Need group 1 to duel.
Grunyar Fangblood
Summoner 3,236, 829 posts
Skinwalker Summoner
Sun 15 Apr 2018
at 00:49
  • msg #727

Re: OOC Discussion 8

In reply to Jayce the Tamer (msg # 726):

Good eye Jayce, Vry while Igar finishes whatever he has to finish
Vry
Sorcerer 3,172, 630 posts
Advanced Gnome
Shadow's Caress
Sun 15 Apr 2018
at 07:04
  • msg #728

Re: OOC Discussion 8

Grunyar Fangblood:
In reply to Jayce the Tamer (msg # 726):

Good eye Jayce, Vry while Igar finishes whatever he has to finish

Think you missed a couple of words there? Not sure.

Ugrim/Opal are biased for the purpose of reffing me, however, so that won’t work... And I shouldn’t ref, GM has made it clear that what I should be doing is dueling - and I agree. Until I get to veteran status... :p
Grunyar Fangblood
Summoner 3,236, 830 posts
Skinwalker Summoner
Sun 15 Apr 2018
at 09:59
  • msg #729

Re: OOC Discussion 8

In reply to Vry (msg # 728):

Lol posted in a rush, fingers couldn't get the thought out quick enough :)

There is about 475BP in it if you ref us while you wait for Igar or if Somatra feels up to it close to 800 if you want to do a quick duels and Somatra ref.

I just want the number on leader board W or L :)
Somatra
Slayer 577, 74 posts
Fetchling Slayer
Sun 15 Apr 2018
at 18:43
  • msg #730

Re: OOC Discussion 8

I'm willing to have a go at Reffing.  Just keep in mind that I'm not going to know that the GM made a specific ruling a year ago that's somewhere in the bowels of the archives.  I've read the errata on the site, but I'll need a link or something if a ruling isn't there.
Grunyar Fangblood
Summoner 3,236, 831 posts
Skinwalker Summoner
Sun 15 Apr 2018
at 22:16
  • msg #731

Re: OOC Discussion 8

I think I am going to scribe a few scrolls, Josep (or anyone wants put 2¢ in) do you normally keep the spell on your list for the duels as well or just because you can know it is enough?
Igar-Kruk
Barbarimonk 97, 9 posts
Gnoll Barbarian/Monk
Sun 15 Apr 2018
at 22:53
  • msg #732

Re: OOC Discussion 8

Jayce the Tamer:
Only one person is not actively looking for a fight. Ugrim/madam opal. Maybe see if the collective will ref both matches. Somatra/grunyar. And vry/igar kruk. Igar, you dont seem to be ready to duel though. Your groups are only 0. Need group 1 to duel.

So... How do I get added to group 1?
Jayce the Tamer
Summoner 5,655, 615 posts
Human Summoner
Mon 16 Apr 2018
at 07:01
  • msg #733

Re: OOC Discussion 8

Josep, I posted. takes a minute to put these posts together.

Igar, only Arkrim can add you to group 1. Either you are done and he just hasn't done it yet, or you are missing something.

Class list is not enough to scribe a scroll. You must know the spell or have it(spell like ability or other). A wizard, cleric, or other like that are probably the few that don't have to have it memorized or chosen since they can have access to a LOT of spells. Summoners, sorcerers, oracles, etc must know it to craft it. Scribe scroll, craft wand and brew potion require that you have the spell.
This message was last edited by the player at 07:19, Mon 16 Apr 2018.
Josep Gavinho
Wizard 4,387, 1464 posts
Human Wizard
Thaumaturgical Alliance
Mon 16 Apr 2018
at 10:27
  • msg #734

Re: OOC Discussion 8

I always buy my scrolls full price, don’t trust the scroll outlets.
Vry
Sorcerer 3,172, 631 posts
Advanced Gnome
Shadow's Caress
Mon 16 Apr 2018
at 10:40
  • msg #735

Re: OOC Discussion 8

In reply to Igar-Kruk (msg # 732):

Looks like you’re in group 1 now!
Jayce the Tamer
Summoner 5,655, 616 posts
Human Summoner
Mon 16 Apr 2018
at 10:57
  • msg #736

Re: OOC Discussion 8

Josep Gavinho:
I always buy my scrolls full price, don’t trust the scroll outlets.

I have that same problem. Scrolls I have are not on my lists. :(



Vry:
In reply to Igar-Kruk (msg # 732):

Looks like you’re in group 1 now!



Still no ref though. I thought I read somewhere that a guild member could ref a guild and nonguild member if all parties agreed. But I can't find that now. :(
This message was last edited by the player at 11:02, Mon 16 Apr 2018.
Vry
Sorcerer 3,172, 632 posts
Advanced Gnome
Shadow's Caress
Mon 16 Apr 2018
at 11:06
  • msg #737

Re: OOC Discussion 8

Also: currently too busy to make a 3k+ BP build for a duel. I’ll whip up a quick level1-2 if a ref pops up, otherwise I’ll wait a week or so, sorry Grunyar.
@Jayce I guess that goes under “anything goes if you both agree” unless we find specific rulings against it!
Jayce the Tamer
Summoner 5,655, 617 posts
Human Summoner
Mon 16 Apr 2018
at 11:09
  • msg #738

Re: OOC Discussion 8

In reply to Vry (msg # 737):

Not enough active players at the moment for the guild ref rule I suspect. Too many boons in joining a guild. Teamwork feats and if with guild master, free hero point. Ha.
Grunyar Fangblood
Summoner 3,236, 832 posts
Skinwalker Summoner
Mon 16 Apr 2018
at 11:15
  • msg #739

Re: OOC Discussion 8

In reply to Jayce the Tamer (msg # 738):

That's why I left TA a long while back just not enough actives
Jayce the Tamer
Summoner 5,655, 618 posts
Human Summoner
Mon 16 Apr 2018
at 11:29
  • msg #740

Re: OOC Discussion 8

In reply to Grunyar Fangblood (msg # 739):

:( I could have had 1 more teamwork feat! Traitor.
Josep Gavinho
Wizard 4,387, 1466 posts
Human Wizard
Thaumaturgical Alliance
Mon 16 Apr 2018
at 20:22
  • msg #741

Re: OOC Discussion 8

Come back Grun-Grun!
You can still battle anyone, it’s just the refereeing that gets difficult.
And gods know you shouldn’t be refereeing and instead adding notches on that leaderboard!
Grunyar Fangblood
Summoner 3,236, 833 posts
Skinwalker Summoner
Mon 16 Apr 2018
at 23:25
  • msg #742

Re: OOC Discussion 8

I would be I never got an answer (I never asked officially either) if an alt is free Lance and one is guilded to that keep the freelancer from reffing a member of that guild.
Jayce the Tamer
Summoner 5,655, 619 posts
Human Summoner
Tue 17 Apr 2018
at 07:02
  • msg #743

Re: OOC Discussion 8

Grunyar Fangblood:
I would be I never got an answer (I never asked officially either) if an alt is free Lance and one is guilded to that keep the freelancer from reffing a member of that guild.

no. but it may prevent your freelance from reffing a match of guilded teammate vs nonguilded teammate. which  is the issue for latro and vry.
Latro Dectus
Antipaladin 3,623, 1628 posts
Drow N. Antipaladin
Shadow's Caress
Fri 20 Apr 2018
at 13:25
  • msg #744

Re: OOC Discussion 8

Man, they just released an Underworld Races and Classes book but it's printed by AAW Games and not Paizo so we can't use it here.
I am sad. :(
Vry
Sorcerer 3,172, 633 posts
Advanced Gnome
Shadow's Caress
Fri 20 Apr 2018
at 14:03
  • msg #745

Re: OOC Discussion 8

In reply to Latro Dectus (msg # 744):

It’s not official paizo material? You mean to say it’s... underground stuff?
Latro Dectus
Antipaladin 3,623, 1629 posts
Drow N. Antipaladin
Shadow's Caress
Fri 20 Apr 2018
at 14:08
  • msg #746

Re: OOC Discussion 8

In reply to Vry (msg # 745):

ayyyyy. *finger guns*
Jayce the Tamer
Summoner 5,655, 631 posts
Human Summoner
Tue 24 Apr 2018
at 06:37
  • msg #747

Re: OOC Discussion 8

Whole lot of not logging in going on here. Your match was supposed to be fast Latro, lol.
Jayce the Tamer
Summoner 5,655, 635 posts
Human Summoner
Thu 26 Apr 2018
at 07:21
  • msg #748

Re: OOC Discussion 8

Igar, I feel bad for you starting at such a time when not enough people around for you to enjoy the arena. As such, I'll ref a fight for you and Vry when I'm out of mine to give myself time to setup my next build. Unless of course, you are already in a match at that time.
Vry
Sorcerer 3,172, 634 posts
Advanced Gnome
Shadow's Caress
Tue 1 May 2018
at 09:36
  • msg #749

Re: OOC Discussion 8

Naaww, Braktlyn, you’ll be disqualified from both games! Come back!
Grunyar Fangblood
Summoner 3,236, 834 posts
Skinwalker Summoner
Tue 1 May 2018
at 12:20
  • msg #750

Re: OOC Discussion 8

I bet something is up in RL he hasn't even logged in in a week
Jayce the Tamer
Summoner 5,655, 637 posts
Human Summoner
Tue 1 May 2018
at 19:35
  • msg #751

Re: OOC Discussion 8

I agree. He also stopped rolling his turn. After confirming TAC. No damage rolled.
Josep Gavinho
Wizard 4,387, 1475 posts
Human Wizard
Thaumaturgical Alliance
Tue 1 May 2018
at 21:30
  • msg #752

Re: OOC Discussion 8

I hope it’s nothing serious.
Should we put the monster hunt on hold ?
Jayce the Tamer
Summoner 5,655, 638 posts
Human Summoner
Tue 1 May 2018
at 21:34
  • msg #753

Re: OOC Discussion 8

In reply to Josep Gavinho (msg # 752):

I would rather the ref take over if that's an option. Or another player fill in the role of the monster. It's just a monster after all. Not a player sheet.
Boadicea
Fighter 4,223, 1116 posts
Advanced Human Fighter
Tue 1 May 2018
at 21:40
  • msg #754

Re: OOC Discussion 8

I am not against either just sucks choices have been made with long term effects handicapping whoever takes over
Jayce the Tamer
Summoner 5,655, 639 posts
Human Summoner
Tue 1 May 2018
at 21:58
  • msg #755

Re: OOC Discussion 8

Whatever prevents my loss of BP. I put a lot of work into this match. And as the ref. So have you.
Igar-Kruk
Barbarimonk 97, 10 posts
Gnoll Barbarian/Monk
Wed 2 May 2018
at 00:03
  • msg #756

Re: OOC Discussion 8

Jayce the Tamer:
Igar, I feel bad for you starting at such a time when not enough people around for you to enjoy the arena. As such, I'll ref a fight for you and Vry when I'm out of mine to give myself time to setup my next build. Unless of course, you are already in a match at that time.

Yeah, so far it has been riveting. :p

Thanks for the offer!
Josep Gavinho
Wizard 4,387, 1476 posts
Human Wizard
Thaumaturgical Alliance
Wed 2 May 2018
at 07:16
  • msg #757

Re: OOC Discussion 8

In reply to Boa:
 A lot of time and energy went into this fight already.
 I'd certainly rather finish it, one way or an other.
Josep Gavinho
Wizard 4,387, 1480 posts
Human Wizard
Thaumaturgical Alliance
Sat 5 May 2018
at 05:07
  • msg #758

Re: OOC Discussion 8

No rest for the wicked. Who wants a fight?
I’ll take a 3v1 if anyone is keen.
Jayce the Tamer
Summoner 5,655, 644 posts
Human Summoner
Sat 5 May 2018
at 16:20
  • msg #759

Re: OOC Discussion 8

Igar and Vry, get your details worked out. I will ref after my match closes. I am available 7 PM to 10 PM Central standard time (-6) mon through fri. Anytime on weekends. So if you need a ref ruling. That's what time I can do them.
Latro Dectus
Antipaladin 5,031, 1636 posts
Drow N. Antipaladin
Shadow's Caress
Sun 6 May 2018
at 01:27
  • msg #760

Re: OOC Discussion 8

Hot dog, i've broken 5k BP. Jayce is now the only one with more BP then me. (at the time of this post)

Grunyar, i'm still prepared to honor my previous promise of a 1v1 against you if you're still up for it.
Latro Dectus
Antipaladin 5,031, 1637 posts
Drow N. Antipaladin
Shadow's Caress
Sun 6 May 2018
at 01:34
  • msg #761

Re: OOC Discussion 8

Also, check out this new ruling:

quote:
Crafting
You cannot prepare anything outside of battle except for your class features/spells and as noted here. If you have the proper feats and/or skills, you can craft a single item per skill and/or item creation feat used. A 10 + your skill bonus to crafting must meet the craft DC to do so. Crafting an item merely means that you acquire it for half the normal GP/BP cost. You cannot customize items unless you craft it yourself (and even then, it must be approved by the Referee beforehand). You can mix and match the enhancement abilities on weapons and armors as you see fit, but all other items must come in the form which they are listed in their books right down to their caster level, even consumables. You cannot sell items for a profit. There will be no exceptions to these rules, not even RAW.


That's gonna end up being a bit problematic for us wondrous item creators. I'm gonna guess we're going to need to list which skill or feat was used to create each magic item from now on, huh?
Jayce the Tamer
Summoner 5,655, 645 posts
Human Summoner
Sun 6 May 2018
at 02:16
  • msg #762

Re: OOC Discussion 8

It needed to happen now that I'm at the point, and a few of us, to craft 200k items. Just that one item saves me 100k or 1k BP. And 1 wondrous,  weapon, 1 staff, 1 rod.... quite the savings.
Latro Dectus
Antipaladin 5,031, 1638 posts
Drow N. Antipaladin
Shadow's Caress
Sun 6 May 2018
at 02:40
  • msg #763

Re: OOC Discussion 8

In reply to Jayce the Tamer (msg # 762):

I mean, technically speaking, as long as you plunge your skill points into craft or profession skills you could have multiple wondrous items. At least thats the way I'm reading it.
Josep Gavinho
Wizard 4,387, 1481 posts
Human Wizard
Thaumaturgical Alliance
Sun 6 May 2018
at 13:13
  • msg #764

Re: OOC Discussion 8

The wording is a bit ambiguous, because of the and/or bit.

If you have just one feat (craft wondrous item) and two relevant skills (say Craft:shoemaking, Craft:jewellery) can you craft two items?
Latro Dectus
Antipaladin 5,031, 1639 posts
Drow N. Antipaladin
Shadow's Caress
Sun 6 May 2018
at 13:25
  • msg #765

Re: OOC Discussion 8

In reply to Josep Gavinho (msg # 764):

I'm thinking its three. one for the feat itself and then one for for each skill you have that could qualify you to craft some kind of object or another.
Vry
Sorcerer 3,172, 635 posts
Advanced Gnome
Shadow's Caress
Sun 6 May 2018
at 13:44
  • msg #766

Re: OOC Discussion 8

Yeah, ambiguous... But I guess one option is one per feat (cuz they are always required) and the other one is one per feat/skill, making the three items interpretation in the example above the most reasonable since skills are in fact included in the rule.
Jayce the Tamer
Summoner 5,655, 646 posts
Human Summoner
Sun 6 May 2018
at 19:48
  • msg #767

Re: OOC Discussion 8

The monster hunt clause is hurting my soul right now. Over 1 month match an no rewards. I wish it worked more like the duels. :( too much IRL time went into it to get nothing. Feel even worse for josep who spent Hero Points.
Josep Gavinho
Wizard 4,387, 1482 posts
Human Wizard
Thaumaturgical Alliance
Sun 6 May 2018
at 20:42
  • msg #768

Re: OOC Discussion 8

If the rewards are cancelled (which makes no sense at all to begin with), I would have thought at the very least that the HP spent are cancelled as well...
GM Arkrim
GM, 6497 posts
Game Master
Mon 7 May 2018
at 03:22
  • msg #769

Re: OOC Discussion 8

I have added a new achievement:

Sensei: Referee 10 or more PvP matches.

You must be a Veteran or Sensei to referee for a Veteran or Sensei.

You must be both a Veteran and a Sensei to play the role of monsters in a Dungeon Crawl, Monster Hunt, or other Player vs. Environment (PvE) match.

All those who have reffed 10+ matches please report doing so now with a link to all the matches in the reports and proposals thread. Thank you.



Max Hero points: From now on the maximum number of hero points you can store up is 3 + number of achievements, thus a max of 10 if you have all achievements (not including the championship belt's hero point which allows you to crank it to 11). If you accumulate any when you're already at max, you gain no additional hero points. If you currently have more than this max, spend them ASAP. I'll start going through character sheets next month but I'll intentionally save anyone currently in a match for last.



Latro Dectus
Antipaladin 5,031, 1640 posts
Drow N. Antipaladin
Shadow's Caress
Mon 7 May 2018
at 04:56
  • msg #770

Re: OOC Discussion 8

In reply to Vry (msg # 766):

There is technically a way to craft any magic item without taking any of the feats normally required to do so. But if one were to implement this very specific way, one would only be relying on their skills to craft magic items then the "and/or" potion of the arena rule carries a bit more weight.
Vry
Sorcerer 3,172, 636 posts
Advanced Gnome
Shadow's Caress
Mon 7 May 2018
at 07:29
  • msg #771

Re: OOC Discussion 8

In reply to Latro Dectus (msg # 770):

How though? I know of the depths of pathfinder rules, always fun to take a peek down towards the dark bottom to see what ugly fish reside there! :p
Latro Dectus
Antipaladin 5,031, 1642 posts
Drow N. Antipaladin
Shadow's Caress
Mon 7 May 2018
at 07:59
  • msg #772

Re: OOC Discussion 8

In reply to Vry (msg # 771):

ha. as if i'd ever reveal anything like that in the OOC. ;P
Boadicea
Fighter 4,223, 1121 posts
Advanced Human Fighter
Mon 7 May 2018
at 08:16
  • msg #773

Re: OOC Discussion 8

Thank you GM for allowing some reward, I will get the post up after work.

Brakt/Lyn and I are in another game and he has not logged into it either kinda worried about him.
GM Arkrim
GM, 6498 posts
Game Master
Mon 7 May 2018
at 10:17
  • msg #774

Re: OOC Discussion 8

In reply to Boadicea (msg # 773):

No prob.




And to clear up the confusion about the magic items folks, "and/or" is simply based on need. If the item says you need a feat, you can craft only 1 per feat. Otherwise, you can craft only 1 per skill.

So, if, hypothetically, you made items without Item Creation feats (such as using Master Craftsman or advanced technology) you'd have to have multiple Craft skills to do so: one for each item.

I may make an exception for single-use items with a duration of instantaneous though. Maybe I'll allow up to 5 of those as "one" item. I'm sure those with Craft (Alchemy) may appreciate that.
This message was last edited by the GM at 10:18, Mon 07 May 2018.
Josep Gavinho
Wizard 4,387, 1484 posts
Human Wizard
Thaumaturgical Alliance
Mon 7 May 2018
at 12:48
  • msg #775

Re: OOC Discussion 8

What about Craft Magic Arms and Armours?
It sounds like it should allow to craft one of each.
Also typically not a full spellcaster strategy, so it may balance things out a little in that department.
Boadicea
Fighter 4,223, 1123 posts
Advanced Human Fighter
Mon 7 May 2018
at 14:31
  • msg #776

Re: OOC Discussion 8

Lol, it may just be that I am tired but I am not able to figure out how to link to the game how did you do it Latro?
Latro Dectus
Antipaladin 5,031, 1644 posts
Drow N. Antipaladin
Shadow's Caress
Mon 7 May 2018
at 15:57
  • msg #777

Re: OOC Discussion 8

In reply to Boadicea (msg # 776):

I literally searched out each and every match i reffed, copied the link address for the first page, and pasted it. :P
Jayce the Tamer
Summoner 5,655, 647 posts
Human Summoner
Mon 7 May 2018
at 16:57
  • msg #778

Re: OOC Discussion 8

Player B1's reward = Team A's BP/12
Player B2's reward = Team A's BP/12

37500/12 = 3,125

Isn't that what Josep and I get?
Boadicea
Fighter 4,223, 1124 posts
Advanced Human Fighter
Mon 7 May 2018
at 19:22
  • msg #779

Re: OOC Discussion 8

In reply to Jayce the Tamer (msg # 778):

Ugh you are right I was looking at the 3v1 thanks
Jayce the Tamer
Summoner 5,655, 648 posts
Human Summoner
Mon 7 May 2018
at 20:56
  • msg #780

Re: OOC Discussion 8

Thank you GM Arkrim and Boa.
Jayce the Tamer
Summoner 5,655, 649 posts
Human Summoner
Mon 7 May 2018
at 20:59
  • msg #781

Re: OOC Discussion 8

In reply to Vry (msg # 766):

Not ambiguous at all. Its worded that way because of crafting nonmagical items. Such as crafting a mithral armor yourself. 1/3 craft cost. Craft armorsmith. Then you magic it, craft weapons and armor feat. You used 1 skill and 1 feat.

Per the way it is worded, 1 magical item per feat. 1 nonmagical item per skill.

If I ref your match, this is how i will grade your sheet.

I am thinking of using the other thread to petition buying weapon and armor feat twice. Once to craft armor and once to craft weapon.
This message was last edited by the player at 21:04, Mon 07 May 2018.
GM Arkrim
GM, 6499 posts
Game Master
Tue 8 May 2018
at 03:45
  • msg #782

Re: OOC Discussion 8

In reply to Jayce the Tamer (msg # 781):

Yes Jayce, that's exactly right. Whatever it is you craft is based on whatever is needed to craft this. This forces people who want lots of cheap items to be versatile in both skills and feats whereas people who want only one particular item at half price can grab only one or two feats and a single skill.

I honestly don't see a problem with allowing crafters to take the same feat twice for these purposes. It's a heavy cost but if people really want special items it may be worth it to their build.
Boadicea
Fighter 8,165, 1125 posts
Advanced Human Fighter
Tue 8 May 2018
at 13:15
  • msg #783

Re: OOC Discussion 8

<a href="http://m.rpol.net/display.cgi?gi=11631&ti=597&date=1525702266&msgpage=&show=all">Monster Hunt #19: Jayce & Josep vs. Lyn's (???) (group 0)</a>

Still not able to get this thing working what am I doing wrong?
This message was last edited by the player at 13:15, Tue 08 May 2018.
Josep Gavinho
Wizard 7,512, 1485 posts
Human Wizard
Thaumaturgical Alliance
Tue 8 May 2018
at 20:55
  • msg #784

Re: OOC Discussion 8

I think you’re trying too hard.

Usually I just copy the url and paste it raw in a message, rpol takes care of the rest.

Also, how about a quick roll in the hay?
Boadicea
Fighter 8,165, 1126 posts
Advanced Human Fighter
Tue 8 May 2018
at 21:34
  • msg #785

Re: OOC Discussion 8

In reply to Josep Gavinho (msg # 784):

I am still at 1700ish BP build lol, I need couple days or so to rebuild maybe try and move away from the dual class.  I wish Monkey Grip feat moved over to Pathfinder :) (I love the Idea however unpractical of wielding oversized weapons or at least the picture in my head)

Test:
link to a message in this game


OMG figured it out remove the "M." So it's not mobile RPOL. Before just pasting URL only posted the URL not the pretty blue writing
Josep Gavinho
Wizard 7,512, 1486 posts
Human Wizard
Thaumaturgical Alliance
Tue 8 May 2018
at 22:09
  • msg #786

Re: OOC Discussion 8

There’s a mobile rpol?!??
Since when? How do I jump on this?
I’ve been doing most of my RPing on a phone for years! And it is sometimes a pain...
Boadicea
Fighter 8,165, 1127 posts
Advanced Human Fighter
Tue 8 May 2018
at 22:21
  • msg #787

Re: OOC Discussion 8

Phone should automatically go to it, it's same website and a pain when doing maps.  The prefix M. On a web site means it's the mobile version
Jayce the Tamer
Summoner 8,780, 650 posts
Human Summoner
Wed 9 May 2018
at 01:25
  • msg #788

Re: OOC Discussion 8

My phone doesn't have an m.rpol it just goes straight to rpol.
Boadicea
Fighter 8,165, 1128 posts
Advanced Human Fighter
Wed 9 May 2018
at 03:34
  • msg #789

Re: OOC Discussion 8

In reply to Jayce the Tamer (msg # 788):

I must be special lol

http://m.rpol.net

Is URL for main for me
Josep Gavinho
Wizard 7,512, 1487 posts
Human Wizard
Thaumaturgical Alliance
Wed 9 May 2018
at 06:21
  • msg #790

Re: OOC Discussion 8

My phone doesn’t do that either...
Even when I manually add the m to the url, the site doesn’t look any different from the desktop version.
Ugrim
Bloodmagus 1,681, 540 posts
Adv. Orc Bloodmagus
Shadow's Caress
Wed 9 May 2018
at 11:25
  • msg #791

Re: OOC Discussion 8

In reply to Boadicea (msg # 785):

I know theres a barbarian variant class that lets you wield oversized weapons. :P
Boadicea
Fighter 8,165, 1129 posts
Advanced Human Fighter
Wed 9 May 2018
at 11:51
  • msg #792

Re: OOC Discussion 8

In reply to Ugrim (msg # 791):

That's why I multiclass 2 lvl to pick up"monkey grip" then fighter or at least that's my current build
Josep Gavinho
Wizard 7,512, 1488 posts
Human Wizard
Thaumaturgical Alliance
Wed 9 May 2018
at 13:54
  • msg #793

Re: OOC Discussion 8

You could polymorph to be an actual giant ;)

Better even, grab monkey grip and then polymorph, so you’re wielding colossal weapons.

So does anyone want the fight or is everyone re writing their character?
Latro Dectus
Antipaladin 5,031, 1645 posts
Drow N. Antipaladin
Shadow's Caress
Wed 9 May 2018
at 16:30
  • msg #794

Re: OOC Discussion 8

I'm actually gearing up to go on vacation for a week so don't look to me for anything until next Saturday.
I might still lurk and comment in the OOC though. :P
Vry
Sorcerer 3,172, 638 posts
Advanced Gnome
Shadow's Caress
Wed 9 May 2018
at 16:34
  • msg #795

Re: OOC Discussion 8

I'm mostly lurking, don't have the time to make any builds or perhaps even to play here right now (Sorry, Igar-Kruk!).
Josep Gavinho
Wizard 7,512, 1489 posts
Human Wizard
Thaumaturgical Alliance
Wed 9 May 2018
at 21:03
  • msg #796

Re: OOC Discussion 8

 Igar Kruk! If no one will fight you I will.

 I’ll fight at full BP so you get the most of it.

 Tell you what, only my familiar can attack you, and if you manage to kill it I will yield.

 Sounds good? Even on a loss you’ll make 1000 BP, gearing you up for the next fight ;)
Boadicea
Fighter 8,165, 1130 posts
Advanced Human Fighter
Wed 9 May 2018
at 22:11
  • msg #797

Re: OOC Discussion 8

In reply to Josep Gavinho (msg # 796):

I will ref if you like I need 3 more for my Sensei title
Ankou
Druid 4,967, 654 posts
Aug. Human Goliath Druid
Thaumaturgical Alliance
Thu 10 May 2018
at 07:51
  • msg #798

Re: OOC Discussion 8

Also, Ankou needs a couple more wins.
Any takers? Ugrim?
I’ll be down for a straightforward 1v1 no nonsense.
ie no flying, burrowing, companions, summoning, invisibility, etc.
Igar-Kruk
Barbarimonk 97, 11 posts
Gnoll Barbarian/Monk
Thu 10 May 2018
at 08:20
  • msg #799

Re: OOC Discussion 8

Josep Gavinho:
Igar Kruk! If no one will fight you I will.

 I’ll fight at full BP so you get the most of it.

 Tell you what, only my familiar can attack you, and if you manage to kill it I will yield.

 Sounds good? Even on a loss you’ll make 1000 BP, gearing you up for the next fight ;)

That does sound very kind of you. Mind you, I expect to lose as you'll still be able to buff said familiar. ;)
Josep Gavinho
Wizard 7,512, 1490 posts
Human Wizard
Thaumaturgical Alliance
Thu 10 May 2018
at 09:02
  • msg #800

Re: OOC Discussion 8

And I will! But I am cocky, so you have that working for you ;)

I could rebuild to make it an improved familiar, but where’s the fun in that?
Tell you what, since Boa will be reffing, I’ll keep my Monster Hunt build.

Do you want to issue the challenge? I’m human wizard16. Your choice of Arena.
Grunyar Fangblood
Summoner 3,236, 836 posts
Skinwalker Summoner
Thu 10 May 2018
at 10:23
  • msg #801

Re: OOC Discussion 8

In reply to Ankou (msg # 798):

I need a couple battles to get my veteran and Latro has jumped a bunch of BP on me while he is out wanna do a quick battle?  I am down with no flying, Burrowing, ...
Igar-Kruk
Barbarimonk 97, 12 posts
Gnoll Barbarian/Monk
Thu 10 May 2018
at 11:41
  • msg #802

Re: OOC Discussion 8

In reply to Josep Gavinho (msg # 800):

I'd rather leave issuing the challenge to you - I'd rather not mess up some technicality. A simple map sounds nice. Small Colosseum perhaps?
Ankou
Druid 4,967, 655 posts
Aug. Human Goliath Druid
Thaumaturgical Alliance
Thu 10 May 2018
at 12:50
  • msg #803

Re: OOC Discussion 8

In reply to Grunyar Fangblood (msg # 801):
 Sounds good! Did that list extent to no summoning or was that the end of it?

 Anyone wants to ref? Vry? Maelstrom?
Jayce the Tamer
Summoner 8,780, 651 posts
Human Summoner
Thu 10 May 2018
at 15:26
  • msg #804

Re: OOC Discussion 8

I'll ref. I can do that I think since neither of you are veterans but grunyar is a sensei.

Ah, darn. Guild restrictions. I think as a whole we need to remove that guild restriction for refs. Just not enough players for it and makes things ineffecient. Joining guilds have perks, I want that perk. But now no ref, can't have a match without a ref. So no match.
This message was last edited by the player at 16:25, Thu 10 May 2018.
Grunyar Fangblood
Summoner 3,236, 837 posts
Skinwalker Summoner
Thu 10 May 2018
at 16:52
  • msg #805

Re: OOC Discussion 8

In reply to Jayce the Tamer (msg # 804):

Wonder if that could be an extra like no arena immunities
Ankou
Druid 4,967, 656 posts
Aug. Human Goliath Druid
Thaumaturgical Alliance
Thu 10 May 2018
at 17:33
  • msg #806

Re: OOC Discussion 8

I seem to remember Arkrim stating that it was ok to put that in as extra.

As long as Grunyar is ok being refd by his opponent’s guild mate, all is good.

I wouldn’t do it with a player I don’t know, but I think we’re past favouritism in our RP rapports, aren’t we?

So what is is gonna be? Small, large? Colosseum or other?

I would like to craft a set of “standard special rules” that we can then refer to.

The first could be “No nonsense”. It entails no flying/levitating/burrowing, no invisibility/magic darkness, no summoning.
Grunyar Fangblood
Summoner 3,236, 838 posts
Skinwalker Summoner
Thu 10 May 2018
at 18:58
  • msg #807

Re: OOC Discussion 8

In reply to Ankou (msg # 806):

I would be good with those rules just want that I can use my craft feat more than once
Grunyar Fangblood
Summoner 3,236, 839 posts
Skinwalker Summoner
Thu 10 May 2018
at 23:10
  • msg #808

Re: OOC Discussion 8

In reply to Ankou (msg # 806):

Large Colosseum is fine by me, I am down for Jayce to ref really doubt he will share anything in guild chat or make unfair calls.

I am down with: no flying/levitating/burrowing, no invisibility
If you want the others I want the item creation limit lifted for me
Ankou
Druid 4,967, 657 posts
Aug. Human Goliath Druid
Thaumaturgical Alliance
Fri 11 May 2018
at 13:16
  • msg #809

Re: OOC Discussion 8

No summoning, crafting limit lifted, no invisibility/magic darkness, no flying/burrowing.
Large colosseum, standard terrain and light.
Anything else?
Grunyar Fangblood
Summoner 3,236, 840 posts
Skinwalker Summoner
Fri 11 May 2018
at 13:19
  • msg #810

Re: OOC Discussion 8

In reply to Ankou (msg # 809):

Crafting limit lifted for me, trade off you get if you want to handicap me like that
Ankou
Druid 4,967, 658 posts
Aug. Human Goliath Druid
Thaumaturgical Alliance
Fri 11 May 2018
at 13:27
  • msg #811

Re: OOC Discussion 8

Nah, if you're summoning I’m summoning as well. Same goes for crafting.
Josep Gavinho
Wizard 7,512, 1491 posts
Human Wizard
Thaumaturgical Alliance
Fri 11 May 2018
at 13:29
  • msg #812

Re: OOC Discussion 8

In reply to Igar-Kruk (msg # 802):
 All right! What’s your race/class/level ?
Grunyar Fangblood
Summoner 3,236, 841 posts
Skinwalker Summoner
Fri 11 May 2018
at 15:17
  • msg #813

Re: OOC Discussion 8

In reply to Ankou (msg # 811):

My class is Summoner, and yours is not so asking for me to not do what my class does is like you not using your using AC or wild shape.

The rest I stated: no flying/levitating/burrowing, no invisibility

Are fine by me without any other extras
Igar-Kruk
Barbarimonk 97, 13 posts
Gnoll Barbarian/Monk
Sat 12 May 2018
at 00:05
  • msg #814

Re: OOC Discussion 8

Josep Gavinho:
In reply to Igar-Kruk (msg # 802):
 All right! What’s your race/class/level ?

Gnoll Barbarian 3 / Monk 3.  Should I also list any Archetype?
Jayce the Tamer
Summoner 8,780, 652 posts
Human Summoner
Sat 12 May 2018
at 04:04
  • msg #815

Re: OOC Discussion 8

I always add in my archetype. Better to place something you didn't need than to miss something you needed. Players can call you on it. You could lose that ability you relied upon mid March. Technically, we are supposed to add in our race's race point value as well.
Ankou
Druid 4,967, 659 posts
Aug. Human Goliath Druid
Thaumaturgical Alliance
Sat 12 May 2018
at 08:36
  • msg #816

Re: OOC Discussion 8

In reply to Grunyar Fangblood (msg # 813):
 Fair enough !

 No Invisibility, no Flying/Levitating/Burrowing.
 Plain Large Colosseum. Hidden on the Map
 Prep round? I’m fine with or without.
 I’m augmented Human Druid 16
Jayce the Tamer
Summoner 8,780, 653 posts
Human Summoner
Sat 12 May 2018
at 17:53
  • msg #817

Re: OOC Discussion 8

Make sure you lift craft limit in extra otherwise I'll have to grade your sheets as if you can only have 1 half priced item per feat.
Igar-Kruk
Barbarimonk 97, 15 posts
Gnoll Barbarian/Monk
Sun 13 May 2018
at 09:48
  • msg #818

Re: OOC Discussion 8

Just to check - on my first post I'll just post init, which corner I take and my sheet in private to the ref?

I'll post once I'm back home, as I'm currently posting from my phone, which makes copy-pasting and adding tags difficult.
Boadicea
Fighter 8,165, 1132 posts
Advanced Human Fighter
Sun 13 May 2018
at 11:11
  • msg #819

Re: OOC Discussion 8

In reply to Igar-Kruk (msg # 818):

That is correct
Ankou
Druid 4,967, 660 posts
Aug. Human Goliath Druid
Thaumaturgical Alliance
Sun 13 May 2018
at 15:37
  • msg #820

Re: OOC Discussion 8

In reply to Jayce the Tamer (msg # 817):
 I'm fine with the new craft limit.
 Well not as much fine as I think it will penalise Grunyar more than it will penalise me.
Igar-Kruk
Barbarimonk 97, 17 posts
Gnoll Barbarian/Monk
Sun 13 May 2018
at 18:49
  • msg #821

Re: OOC Discussion 8

What a wonderful way to start a duel.
Josep Gavinho
Wizard 7,512, 1495 posts
Human Wizard
Thaumaturgical Alliance
Sun 13 May 2018
at 19:53
  • msg #822

Re: OOC Discussion 8

Get the fumble out of the way early, I say!
Grunyar Fangblood
Summoner 3,236, 842 posts
Skinwalker Summoner
Sun 13 May 2018
at 20:00
  • msg #823

Re: OOC Discussion 8

In reply to Ankou (msg # 820):

Finalizing items had to scrap build with item restrictions back to Master Summoner 16 Skinwalker (Fanglord)

Throw up challenge when you like
Grunyar Fangblood
Summoner 3,236, 844 posts
Skinwalker Summoner
Mon 14 May 2018
at 00:02
  • msg #824

Re: OOC Discussion 8

I had a moment threw up challenge Ankou
Igar-Kruk
Barbarimonk 97, 20 posts
Gnoll Barbarian/Monk
Tue 15 May 2018
at 09:40
  • msg #825

Re: OOC Discussion 8

*looks at the dice roll and hides his face in shame*
Please just make it end.

It's like I'm watching my pathfinder group trying to fight one of my bosses.
Boadicea
Fighter 8,165, 1134 posts
Advanced Human Fighter
Thu 17 May 2018
at 13:20
  • msg #826

Re: OOC Discussion 8

Watching news this morning and only thing I can think is WHO CARES ABOUT THE WEDDING, maybe just my ignorance showing.  I have no want to follow/watch it, guess it's better than hearing how many people got shot last night.
Boadicea
Fighter 8,165, 1135 posts
Advanced Human Fighter
Thu 17 May 2018
at 13:30
  • msg #827

Re: OOC Discussion 8

I like the change to races.

quote:
If you add racial traits, your race changes to include its RP cost. For example, your race would become "Dwarf (16 RP)" instead of just "Dwarf".

Igar-Kruk
Barbarimonk 97, 22 posts
Gnoll Barbarian/Monk
Thu 17 May 2018
at 18:23
  • msg #828

Re: OOC Discussion 8

Boadicea:
Watching news this morning and only thing I can think is WHO CARES ABOUT THE WEDDING, maybe just my ignorance showing.  I have no want to follow/watch it, guess it's better than hearing how many people got shot last night.

What wedding?
Boadicea
Fighter 8,165, 1136 posts
Advanced Human Fighter
Thu 17 May 2018
at 18:31
  • msg #829

Re: OOC Discussion 8

In reply to Igar-Kruk (msg # 828):

One of the princess in England and the Megan girl from suites (TV show) is getting married this weekend.
This message was last edited by the player at 18:35, Thu 17 May 2018.
Igar-Kruk
Barbarimonk 97, 23 posts
Gnoll Barbarian/Monk
Thu 17 May 2018
at 19:37
  • msg #830

Re: OOC Discussion 8

In reply to Boadicea (msg # 829):

Oh yeah, that thing. Not that huge a thing in French and German media.
Boadicea
Fighter 8,165, 1137 posts
Advanced Human Fighter
Thu 17 May 2018
at 20:54
  • msg #831

Re: OOC Discussion 8

In reply to Igar-Kruk (msg # 830):

American (at least my local media) is royal wedding this and royal wedding that it gets annoying.  I do feel a little sorry for her.  Her entire life is under a microscope and all the crazy relatives trying to get thier 5 seconds of Fame.
Josep Gavinho
Wizard 7,512, 1499 posts
Human Wizard
Thaumaturgical Alliance
Thu 17 May 2018
at 21:41
  • msg #832

Re: OOC Discussion 8

Hard to miss indeed. There’s a reason we beheaded the lot a while ago ;)
Though I’m sure everyone would go equally nuts if Megan were French.
Igar-Kruk
Barbarimonk 97, 24 posts
Gnoll Barbarian/Monk
Fri 18 May 2018
at 16:47
  • msg #833

Re: OOC Discussion 8

Josep Gavinho:
Hard to miss indeed. There’s a reason we beheaded the lot a while ago ;)
Though I’m sure everyone would go equally nuts if Megan were French.

Missed quite a few actually. *cough*Louis XVIII*cough*Charles X*cough*Louis-Phillipe*cough*

And added a couple with that one corsican dude and his family.

Also, you are evil, stretching out the battle like this. Just kill Igar-Kruk already!
Igar-Kruk
Barbarimonk 97, 26 posts
Gnoll Barbarian/Monk
Sat 19 May 2018
at 09:27
  • msg #834

Re: OOC Discussion 8

Well, at 0 HP I think Igar-Kruk might count as KO.
Jayce the Tamer
Summoner 8,780, 661 posts
Human Summoner
Sat 19 May 2018
at 15:47
  • msg #835

Re: OOC Discussion 8

In reply to Igar-Kruk (msg # 834):

You have to fight. You are still conscious at 0. 1 more round
Igar-Kruk
Barbarimonk 97, 27 posts
Gnoll Barbarian/Monk
Sat 19 May 2018
at 16:12
  • msg #836

Re: OOC Discussion 8

In reply to Jayce the Tamer (msg # 835):

One roll to be exact. One standard attack and bam - he's at -1.
Latro Dectus
Antipaladin 5,031, 1646 posts
Drow N. Antipaladin
Shadow's Caress
Sun 20 May 2018
at 16:21
  • msg #837

Re: OOC Discussion 8

Ok, i'm back again.
Grunyar Fangblood
Summoner 3,236, 856 posts
Skinwalker Summoner
Sun 20 May 2018
at 16:28
  • msg #838

Re: OOC Discussion 8

In reply to Latro Dectus (msg # 837):

Welcome back
Latro Dectus
Antipaladin 5,031, 1647 posts
Drow N. Antipaladin
Shadow's Caress
Sun 20 May 2018
at 16:39
  • msg #839

Re: OOC Discussion 8

Ok, so refresh me.

How are we dealing with magic items and their creation again?
I know having the proper feat gives us one magic item of the kind it could create but does having ranks in an appropriate skill also give us another item of the kind it could create?
I also remember Arkim saying something along the lines of "Brew potion could probably be used to craft 5 potions." Is that cannon to the arena now?
What of Craft Magic Arms and Armor? Do we get one weapon and one armor from the feat or do we have to pick one or the other? Has the feat effectively been split into Craft Magic Weapons and Craft Magic Armor that must be taken separately?
Are we allowed to take the same magic item creation skill multiple times to gain more magic items?

These are the questions i have left over from a week and a half ago that I personally never saw answered.
Any player insight into the would be great.
Jayce the Tamer
Summoner 8,780, 664 posts
Human Summoner
Sun 20 May 2018
at 17:27
  • msg #840

Re: OOC Discussion 8

Boadicea:
In reply to Igar-Kruk (msg # 830):

American (at least my local media) is royal wedding this and royal wedding that it gets annoying.  I do feel a little sorry for her.  Her entire life is under a microscope and all the crazy relatives trying to get thier 5 seconds of Fame.

Haha, now it's on Hulu.
Boadicea
Fighter 8,165, 1140 posts
Advanced Human Fighter
Wed 23 May 2018
at 21:24
  • msg #841

Re: OOC Discussion 8

GM did I mess something up on duel #225, I did not receive any reward?
GM Arkrim
GM, 6504 posts
Game Master
Thu 24 May 2018
at 11:09
  • msg #842

Re: OOC Discussion 8

In reply to Boadicea (msg # 841):

Nope. You're fixed.
Boadicea
Fighter 9,116, 1141 posts
Advanced Human Fighter
Thu 24 May 2018
at 11:12
  • msg #843

Re: OOC Discussion 8

In reply to GM Arkrim (msg # 842):

Thank you
Josep Gavinho
Wizard 7,544, 1503 posts
Human Wizard
Thaumaturgical Alliance
Thu 24 May 2018
at 11:53
  • msg #844

Re: OOC Discussion 8

So, anyone up for a little duel? Free for all? 3v1 ?
Boadicea
Fighter 9,116, 1142 posts
Advanced Human Fighter
Thu 24 May 2018
at 16:09
  • msg #845

Re: OOC Discussion 8

still hammering out my build, trying to build an uber 1 shot weapon like Sulfuras, Hand of Ragnaros :)
Latro Dectus
Antipaladin 5,031, 1648 posts
Drow N. Antipaladin
Shadow's Caress
Fri 25 May 2018
at 22:32
  • msg #846

Re: OOC Discussion 8

Ankou:
That’s a cheeky move, Latro style.

I'm honored!
Ankou
Druid 4,967, 683 posts
Aug. Human Goliath Druid
Thaumaturgical Alliance
Sat 26 May 2018
at 09:09
  • msg #847

Re: OOC Discussion 8

In reply to Latro Dectus (msg # 846):
 What can I say, you’re a master at fine combing through the dice roller for re-rolls opportunities :)
Latro Dectus
Antipaladin 5,031, 1649 posts
Drow N. Antipaladin
Shadow's Caress
Tue 29 May 2018
at 12:36
  • msg #848

Re: OOC Discussion 8

Ok, i'm pretty sure Latro is ready for his next fight now.
Josep Gavinho
Wizard 7,544, 1504 posts
Human Wizard
Thaumaturgical Alliance
Tue 29 May 2018
at 12:45
  • msg #849

Re: OOC Discussion 8

Bring it on.
Latro Dectus
Antipaladin 5,031, 1650 posts
Drow N. Antipaladin
Shadow's Caress
Tue 29 May 2018
at 12:51
  • msg #850

Re: OOC Discussion 8

Ok. Who's gonna ref? Any extras or whatnot?
Boadicea
Fighter 9,116, 1143 posts
Advanced Human Fighter
Tue 29 May 2018
at 12:55
  • msg #851

Re: OOC Discussion 8

In reply to Latro Dectus (msg # 850):

I still need a few fights to get my Sensei, I will ref if you like
Josep Gavinho
Wizard 7,544, 1505 posts
Human Wizard
Thaumaturgical Alliance
Tue 29 May 2018
at 14:31
  • msg #852

Re: OOC Discussion 8

You’re almost a co-GM at this point ;)

Large barracks or forest? Or In Octavo ?
Prep round?

I’m Wizard 17, augmented human.
Latro Dectus
Antipaladin 5,031, 1651 posts
Drow N. Antipaladin
Shadow's Caress
Tue 29 May 2018
at 14:56
  • msg #853

Re: OOC Discussion 8

I think i'd prefer the octavo. Considerably less to keep track of as far as walls and what not go.

I'll take a prep round as well.

I'm Antipaladin 13 with the Graveknight template and 1 mythic rank. (CR 16)

So i think the challenge will look like this?

  Match Type: PvP
BP/Hero Limit: No Limit BP / standard 3 hero point limit
      Referee: Boadicea
Participant 1: Latro Dectus, Drow Noble, Antipaladin (13), Graveknight (+2), 1 mythic tier
Participant 2: Josep Gavinho, Augmented Human, Wizard (17)
          Map: Octavo
     Lighting: Standard
      Terrain: Standard
        Walls: Standard
         Prep: 1
       Extras: -

And I for the record, I don't expect to win against you right now. But if i do, you best be happy this match isn't for the belt. I'll take what ever BP i can get right now cause I've got too many things i want to do with Latro and not nearly enough BP to do it with.
Josep Gavinho
Wizard 7,544, 1506 posts
Human Wizard
Thaumaturgical Alliance
Tue 29 May 2018
at 15:14
  • msg #854

Re: OOC Discussion 8

I don’t do mythic (which is better for you, the archmagus mythic ranks are ridiculously cheesy)

The rest sounds good.
Jayce the Tamer
Summoner 8,780, 675 posts
Human Summoner
Tue 29 May 2018
at 17:23
  • msg #855

Re: OOC Discussion 8

In reply to Josep Gavinho (msg # 854):

You're 2500 BP his senior. Surely the arena champion isn't afraid of one mythic level.

*instigate* *poke the bear* * accept the fight or I'll call you a coward*
Josep Gavinho
Wizard 7,544, 1507 posts
Human Wizard
Thaumaturgical Alliance
Tue 29 May 2018
at 18:06
  • msg #856

Re: OOC Discussion 8

Haha, that’s really not the issue.
Arkrim said no to mystic versus non-mythic.
And if I’m mythic, it won’t be even remotely fun.
Josep Gavinho
Wizard 7,544, 1508 posts
Human Wizard
Thaumaturgical Alliance
Tue 29 May 2018
at 19:13
  • msg #857

Re: OOC Discussion 8

 This being said, if we can add an extra "mythic v. non-mythic allowed", I'm game ;)

 #bitingthebait #whysococky
Jayce the Tamer
Summoner 8,780, 676 posts
Human Summoner
Tue 29 May 2018
at 20:48
  • msg #858

Re: OOC Discussion 8

In reply to Josep Gavinho (msg # 857):

In all fairness, I feel like if we need to list our class and prestige class down to the archetype...we should also have to list the type of mythic tier. IE: 2 Mythic Tiers (Marshal).
Latro Dectus
Antipaladin 5,031, 1652 posts
Drow N. Antipaladin
Shadow's Caress
Tue 29 May 2018
at 23:02
  • msg #859

Re: OOC Discussion 8

Actually....


the no mythic vs non-mythic thing doesn't exist anymore. At the very least, i cant find it officially stated on the rules site. Once you reach a certain BP level its assumed you're wearing your big boy pants and are expected to assume certain things are fair game.

See this link.
https://sites.google.com/site/...hicsandmulticlassing

now you may be wondering "But Latro, this link says 10k BP. Surly you don't think you can get away with having a mythic rank at only 5,031 bp."
To which i will retort, "why yes, i do. for you see the official table for when we can start taking things lists mythic ranks as being accessible at only 5k bp."
https://sites.google.com/site/...nt/level-advancement
Latro Dectus
Antipaladin 5,031, 1653 posts
Drow N. Antipaladin
Shadow's Caress
Tue 29 May 2018
at 23:08
  • msg #860

Re: OOC Discussion 8

But if you're that adverse to fighting a mythic character i'll be more than happy to let you lower your BP amount for the match to 4,999 BP so that we can't do mythic v non mythic. ;)

Or. you know, you can just not cast any summoning spells and i'll pick something else in place of my mythic tier.
This message was last edited by the player at 23:09, Tue 29 May 2018.
Boadicea
Fighter 9,116, 1144 posts
Advanced Human Fighter
Wed 30 May 2018
at 02:11
  • msg #861

Re: OOC Discussion 8

Lol, let the games begin...

I do believe it was said pretty much anything could be put in the extras as long as all parties agree so your non vs mythic is possible you just have to put it as an extra
GM Arkrim
GM, 6506 posts
Game Master
Wed 30 May 2018
at 02:24
  • msg #862

Re: OOC Discussion 8

Mythic vs. nonmythic used to be banned.

Fighting someone well below your BP used to be banned.

Those bans have been lifted.

You are expected to make good decisions when you agree to fight someone (and they have to declare class/race/level/mythic/templates to challenge you).

And of course, any and all game rules can be superseded by explicit "extras" agreements ahead of time (just not Arena rules which are solidified).

It's laissez-faire.
Josep Gavinho
Wizard 7,544, 1509 posts
Human Wizard
Thaumaturgical Alliance
Wed 30 May 2018
at 06:53
  • msg #863

Re: OOC Discussion 8

If all is possible, then let’s go for it.

Large Octavo then, one prep round.
You’re mythic, I’m not.
Any other extra?
Latro Dectus
Antipaladin 5,031, 1654 posts
Drow N. Antipaladin
Shadow's Caress
Wed 30 May 2018
at 11:12
  • msg #864

Re: OOC Discussion 8

In reply to Josep Gavinho (msg # 863):

randomized starting octavio corners?
Otherwise i think ready to get bodied pretty hard.
This message was last edited by the player at 11:18, Wed 30 May 2018.
Grunyar Fangblood
Summoner 3,236, 880 posts
Skinwalker Summoner
Wed 30 May 2018
at 21:19
  • msg #865

Re: OOC Discussion 8

Good Game, Ankou nice surprise with the "reach".  I got cocky and got to close need to work on my defense.

Once the game is closed out who wants to duel? need a couple more for my veteran.
This message was last edited by the player at 21:21, Wed 30 May 2018.
Ankou
Druid 4,967, 692 posts
Aug. Human Goliath Druid
Thaumaturgical Alliance
Wed 30 May 2018
at 21:23
  • msg #866

Re: OOC Discussion 8

I'll ref if you want to go against Jayce.
Evil Summons v. Good Summons !

Unless someone else comes out of hibernation ;)
Josep Gavinho
Wizard 7,544, 1510 posts
Human Wizard
Thaumaturgical Alliance
Wed 30 May 2018
at 21:26
  • msg #867

Re: OOC Discussion 8

In reply to Latro Dectus (msg # 864):
 Good to go, big boy.
 Don't forget to mention your mythic class in the challenge.
Jayce the Tamer
Summoner 8,780, 679 posts
Human Summoner
Wed 30 May 2018
at 22:03
  • msg #868

Re: OOC Discussion 8

Now that it's over, I did not see it going that way. It's interesting how things unfold.
Latro Dectus
Antipaladin 5,031, 1656 posts
Drow N. Antipaladin
Shadow's Caress
Wed 30 May 2018
at 22:46
  • msg #869

Re: OOC Discussion 8

whoops. i forgot to include randomized starting octavio corners. Oh well. :P
Grunyar Fangblood
Summoner 3,236, 881 posts
Skinwalker Summoner
Thu 31 May 2018
at 02:50
  • msg #870

Re: OOC Discussion 8

What's your thoughts Jayce wanna have a go, I should be easy pickings for you
Jayce the Tamer
Summoner 10,830, 680 posts
Human Summoner
Thu 31 May 2018
at 04:41
  • msg #871

Re: OOC Discussion 8

Sure, I need a day or two to make my sheet of that's okay. Then we can discuss terms.
Grunyar Fangblood
Summoner 4,477, 882 posts
Skinwalker Summoner
Thu 31 May 2018
at 05:27
  • msg #872

Re: OOC Discussion 8

Sounds good
Ankou
Druid 5,776, 693 posts
Aug. Human Goliath Druid
Thaumaturgical Alliance
Thu 31 May 2018
at 19:59
  • msg #873

Re: OOC Discussion 8

I can ref you.
How about “no time stop” ?
Grunyar Fangblood
Summoner 4,477, 883 posts
Skinwalker Summoner
Thu 31 May 2018
at 20:13
  • msg #874

Re: OOC Discussion 8

I'M down with that, I was expecting you to wip one out honestly
This message was last edited by the player at 20:44, Thu 31 May 2018.
Jayce the Tamer
Summoner 10,830, 681 posts
Human Summoner
Thu 31 May 2018
at 20:35
  • msg #875

Re: OOC Discussion 8

Ankou:
I can ref you.
How about “no time stop” ?


*middle finger*
Grunyar Fangblood
Summoner 4,477, 884 posts
Skinwalker Summoner
Thu 31 May 2018
at 20:46
  • msg #876

Re: OOC Discussion 8

LOL, guess you are planning on using one, what's your thoughts on prep round, movements, invisibility and the like?
Ankou
Druid 5,776, 694 posts
Aug. Human Goliath Druid
Thaumaturgical Alliance
Thu 31 May 2018
at 20:48
  • msg #877

Re: OOC Discussion 8

 I leave that to the arcane-minded ;)
Jayce the Tamer
Summoner 10,830, 682 posts
Human Summoner
Thu 31 May 2018
at 20:55
  • msg #878

Re: OOC Discussion 8

The no nonsense clause makes the fight go faster. No 3 month long matches. I'm not opposed to any movement, invisibility or anything else. As long as it is legal. So if you want to use invisibility, special movement, etc, I'm fine. What about you Grunyar, any stipulations?


Edit note:

I'm fine with a prep.

Hell if you like we can both get a fake time stop in then I won't bring one. If we do no time stop as an extra we can instead do 3 prep rounds. Movement not allowed in prep 1 and 2 nor any effect, summon or otherwise, able to move, conjure, cast, etc into opponent's half of the battlefield.
This message was last edited by the player at 20:58, Thu 31 May 2018.
Grunyar Fangblood
Summoner 4,477, 885 posts
Skinwalker Summoner
Thu 31 May 2018
at 21:04
  • msg #879

Re: OOC Discussion 8

In reply to Jayce the Tamer (msg # 878):

Normal rules say no movement until last prep round anyway.  I'm down with the 3 prep no TS.  As far as halfing the field what kind of arena you looking at?
Jayce the Tamer
Summoner 10,830, 683 posts
Human Summoner
Thu 31 May 2018
at 21:08
  • msg #880

Re: OOC Discussion 8

In reply to Grunyar Fangblood (msg # 879):

large colosseum. I hate calculating movement for flying above and below obstructions, moving through stairs, etc.
Ankou
Druid 5,776, 695 posts
Aug. Human Goliath Druid
Thaumaturgical Alliance
Thu 31 May 2018
at 21:12
  • msg #881

Re: OOC Discussion 8

This is turning into a Warhammer battle :)  I like it.
Grunyar Fangblood
Summoner 4,477, 886 posts
Skinwalker Summoner
Thu 31 May 2018
at 21:18
  • msg #882

Re: OOC Discussion 8

In reply to Jayce the Tamer (msg # 880):

Sounds good, I don't like the halfing the field idea not that I plan on conjuring a box around you, but maybe I want to summon  a swarm of Tigers or something an need the space.
Ankou
Druid 5,776, 696 posts
Aug. Human Goliath Druid
Thaumaturgical Alliance
Thu 31 May 2018
at 21:33
  • msg #883

Re: OOC Discussion 8

 You could have an arena that's longer than wide and start on either side.
 Grunyar can't do anything south of row 15 ; Jayce can't do anything north of row 16

Like so:
 ABCDEFGHIJKLMNOPQRST 
1          G         1
2                    2
3                    3
4                    4
5                    5
6                    6
7                    7
8                    8
9                    9
10                    10
11                    11
12                    12
13                    13
14                    14
15                    15
16                    16
17                    17
18                    18
19                    19
20                    20
21                    21
22                    22
23                    23
24                    24
25                    25
26                    26
27                    27
28                    28
29                    29
30         J          30
 ABCDEFGHIJKLMNOPQRST 

Jayce the Tamer
Summoner 10,830, 684 posts
Human Summoner
Fri 1 Jun 2018
at 16:59
  • msg #884

Re: OOC Discussion 8

Almost done with my build Grunyar. Still need to pick my new feat and a few spells.
Grunyar Fangblood
Summoner 4,477, 887 posts
Skinwalker Summoner
Fri 1 Jun 2018
at 17:55
  • msg #885

Re: OOC Discussion 8

Sounds good tweaked a few things about ready
Jayce the Tamer
Summoner 10,830, 685 posts
Human Summoner
Fri 1 Jun 2018
at 20:14
  • msg #886

Re: OOC Discussion 8

  Match Type: PvP
BP/Hero Limit: No Limit BP / standard 3 hero point limit
      Referee: Ankou
Participant 1: Jayce the Tamer, Augmented Human (41 RP), Master Summoner (19),
Participant 2: Grunyar Fangblood, Skinwalker, Master Summoner (?)
          Map: Large Colosseum
     Lighting: Normal Light
      Terrain: Stone
        Walls: Force
         Prep: 3
       Extras: - No time stop; cannot summon, conjure, cast, move into, etc creatures and effects into opponent's half of the field during prep.

This message was last edited by the player at 02:47, Sat 02 June 2018.
Grunyar Fangblood
Summoner 4,477, 888 posts
Skinwalker Summoner
Sat 2 Jun 2018
at 22:35
  • msg #887

Re: OOC Discussion 8



  Match Type: PvP
BP/Hero Limit: No Limit BP / standard 3 hero point limit
      Referee: Ankou
Participant 1: Jayce the Tamer, Augmented Human (37 RP), Master Summoner (19),
Participant 2: Grunyar Fangblood, Skinwalker, Master Summoner (17)
          Map: Large Colosseum
     Lighting: Normal Light
      Terrain: Stone
        Walls: Force
         Prep: 3
       Extras: - No time stop; cannot summon, conjure, cast, move into, etc creatures and effects into opponent's half of the field during first 2 prep rounds.

Sorry about not answering sooner busy
Jayce the Tamer
Summoner 10,830, 690 posts
Human Summoner
Tue 5 Jun 2018
at 01:36
  • msg #888

Re: OOC Discussion 8

wow that took forever to make.
Latro Dectus
Antipaladin 5,031, 1660 posts
Drow N. Antipaladin
Shadow's Caress
Tue 5 Jun 2018
at 14:24
  • msg #889

Re: OOC Discussion 8

It's been a hot minute since i've brought Tiaca into the arena so now i have to reformat Latro's entier round post! Woohoo! :D
Vry
Sorcerer 3,172, 639 posts
Advanced Gnome
Shadow's Caress
Sun 10 Jun 2018
at 03:05
  • msg #890

Re: OOC Discussion 8

>logs into arena
>finds Latro vs Josep duel
>expects epic show of strength
>finds highest institution for testing of current rules
>what did I expect :P
Grunyar Fangblood
Summoner 4,477, 902 posts
Skinwalker Summoner
Sun 10 Jun 2018
at 04:32
  • msg #891

Re: OOC Discussion 8

As soon as Jayce and I's match is closed who wants to duel need one more for Veteran.
Jayce the Tamer
Summoner 10,830, 706 posts
Human Summoner
Sun 10 Jun 2018
at 05:39
  • msg #892

Re: OOC Discussion 8

In reply to Grunyar Fangblood (msg # 891):

There really is only Vry, Ankou/Josep, Madam/Ugrim/Dectus, and I. At least at the moment.

Edit: Igar just logged in two days ago. Maybe Igar as well.
This message was last edited by the player at 05:40, Sun 10 June 2018.
Grunyar Fangblood
Summoner 4,477, 903 posts
Skinwalker Summoner
Sun 10 Jun 2018
at 05:44
  • msg #893

Re: OOC Discussion 8

In reply to Jayce the Tamer (msg # 892):

I know, just putting it out there in case someone pops in and wants a fight
Igar-Kruk
Barbarimonk 1,349, 30 posts
Gnoll Barbarian/Monk
Sun 10 Jun 2018
at 23:07
  • msg #894

Re: OOC Discussion 8

Like I previously said, currently the activity level is riveting.

And sure, I'll happily get into a second fight/get turned into yet another bloody smear.
Jayce the Tamer
Summoner 12,322, 707 posts
Human Summoner
Sun 10 Jun 2018
at 23:52
  • msg #895

Re: OOC Discussion 8

In reply to Igar-Kruk (msg # 894):

I'll ref you
Grunyar Fangblood
Summoner 6,282, 904 posts
Skinwalker Summoner
Sun 10 Jun 2018
at 23:58
  • msg #896

Re: OOC Discussion 8

In reply to Igar-Kruk (msg # 894):

Sounds good same rules as Josep's match?
Igar-Kruk
Barbarimonk 1,349, 31 posts
Gnoll Barbarian/Monk
Mon 11 Jun 2018
at 00:02
  • msg #897

Re: OOC Discussion 8

In reply to Grunyar Fangblood (msg # 896):

So just Igar-Kruk vs your Eidolon, at full BP? (You can buff of course, although an Eidolon won't require much buffing to fight Igar-Kruk)

I'd like to add a prep round, tbh.
This message was last edited by the player at 00:04, Mon 11 June 2018.
Grunyar Fangblood
Summoner 6,282, 905 posts
Skinwalker Summoner
Mon 11 Jun 2018
at 00:08
  • msg #898

Re: OOC Discussion 8

In reply to Igar-Kruk (msg # 897):

Familiar (Rex) vs Igar-Kruk, leave my sheet same as was for last match
Jayce the Tamer
Summoner 12,322, 708 posts
Human Summoner
Mon 11 Jun 2018
at 05:23
  • msg #899

Re: OOC Discussion 8

Igar-Kruk:
In reply to Grunyar Fangblood (msg # 896):

So just Igar-Kruk vs your Eidolon, at full BP? (You can buff of course, although an Eidolon won't require much buffing to fight Igar-Kruk)

I'd like to add a prep round, tbh.



Never fear, as a master summoner our eidolons are gimped.
Igar-Kruk
Barbarimonk 1,349, 32 posts
Gnoll Barbarian/Monk
Mon 11 Jun 2018
at 08:24
  • msg #900

Re: OOC Discussion 8

In reply to Jayce the Tamer (msg # 899):

At over a thousand BP Igar-Kruk might stand a chance against such a gimped Eidolon.
Grunyar Fangblood
Summoner 6,282, 906 posts
Skinwalker Summoner
Mon 11 Jun 2018
at 11:21
  • msg #901

Re: OOC Discussion 8

Grunyar Fangblood:
In reply to Igar-Kruk (msg # 897):

Familiar (Rex) vs Igar-Kruk, leave my sheet same as was for last match



Familiar not Eidolon
Grunyar Fangblood
Summoner 6,282, 907 posts
Skinwalker Summoner
Mon 11 Jun 2018
at 11:54
  • msg #902

Re: OOC Discussion 8

Grunyar Fangblood challenges Igar-Kruk to a fun duel
  Match Type: PvP
BP/Hero Limit: No Limit BP / standard 3 hero point limit
      Referee: Jayce the Tamer

Participant 1: Grunyar Fangblood, Skinwalker, Master Summoner (17)
Participant 2: Igar-Kruk, Gnoll, Barbarian/Monk (6)
          Map: Small Colosseum
     Lighting: Standard
      Terrain: Standard
        Walls: Standard
         Prep: 1
       Extras: Hidden on the Map;
Grunyar cannot attack Igar-Kruk (see invisibility spell for what constitutes an attack)
Only Grunyar’s Familiar can attack Igar-Kruk.
If Grunyar’s familiar is killed, Grunyar will yield (without penalty to either party)

ooc:


How's this look, just need your lvl
GM Arkrim
GM, 6513 posts
Game Master
Mon 11 Jun 2018
at 11:59
  • msg #903

Re: OOC Discussion 8

Hey everyone, if you're not 100% clear about summoning a GM in your match, I may just ignore you or possibly pop in and slap down a penalty when you weren't intending to summon me. You have to be careful with that. Don't say "GM", "Game Master", or "Arkrim" unless you want the genie to appear and possibly corrupt your wish.
Igar-Kruk
Barbarimonk 1,349, 33 posts
Gnoll Barbarian/Monk
Mon 11 Jun 2018
at 13:42
  • msg #904

Re: OOC Discussion 8

In reply to Grunyar Fangblood (msg # 902):

I can afford Level 14, so that is what Igar-Kruk will be if possible.

The character sheet needs to be updated (shouldn't take too long once I'm back home. By this time tomorrow give or take an hour or two it should be fine.)

I'm debating going as ridiculous as possible and having Igar-Kruk go to battle wearing a 10 gallon hat, a gunbelt, two revolvers and nothing else.
This message was last edited by the player at 13:59, Mon 11 June 2018.
Josep Gavinho
Wizard 7,544, 1541 posts
Human Wizard
Thaumaturgical Alliance
Mon 11 Jun 2018
at 20:52
  • msg #905

Re: OOC Discussion 8

Igar-Kruk:
I can afford Level 14, so that is what Igar-Kruk will be if possible.

Who remembers the days of the arena when it took 10 fights to go from level 5 to 9?
When we looked at Hiro in awe?
Where gladiators fought with fists and fireballs, not by throwing packs of 15HD monsters at each other?
 #oldmanrambling
Jayce the Tamer
Summoner 12,322, 709 posts
Human Summoner
Mon 11 Jun 2018
at 20:54
  • msg #906

Re: OOC Discussion 8

In reply to Igar-Kruk (msg # 904):

That only leaves you 349 BP for race and gear. That's going to be interesting to see what you use for gear.

In reply to Josep Gavinho (msg # 905):

Josep, I do. I have 12 pvp matches with this character, but 4 were from when I got deleted. I had a magus that was a goblin back then named Abram Featherleaf. And I did a few matches with him before I could make Jayce. I went nowhere fast.
This message was last edited by the player at 20:55, Mon 11 June 2018.
Josep Gavinho
Wizard 7,544, 1542 posts
Human Wizard
Thaumaturgical Alliance
Mon 11 Jun 2018
at 21:03
  • msg #907

Re: OOC Discussion 8

I keep forgetting that was you ;)
Do you know Abram is the reason Josep exists?
When I first joined I was going to play a magus (basically a Lyn) but when I saw Abram at play I thought he was already doing that and maybe better than me. At the time I was playing Josep in a RP heavy campaign. Some steroids and a couple of bloodlines later, and there he was blasting his way through the leaderboard.
Boadicea
Fighter 9,116, 1165 posts
Advanced Human Fighter
Mon 11 Jun 2018
at 21:39
  • msg #908

Re: OOC Discussion 8

Lol, I remember when to up date your sheet was an act of Congress ;), and you wouldn't do it for a couple matches cause you didn't have enough XP or GP to do anything spectacular.
Jayce the Tamer
Summoner 12,322, 710 posts
Human Summoner
Mon 11 Jun 2018
at 23:12
  • msg #909

Re: OOC Discussion 8

Boadicea:
Lol, I remember when to up date your sheet was an act of Congress ;), and you wouldn't do it for a couple matches cause you didn't have enough XP or GP to do anything spectacular.

OMG yes!!!

Abram Featherleaf was a dervish dancing goblin. DeX damage instead of str, to hit with DeX as well. Double tap maximized, intensified, empowered shocking grasp. I think I was hitting close to +30 to hit at those low levels if I got the chance to hit my buffs
 Most times there was no time. The idea was to cast 3 spells in one round eventually.
Igar-Kruk
Barbarimonk 1,349, 34 posts
Gnoll Barbarian/Monk
Tue 12 Jun 2018
at 00:38
  • msg #910

Re: OOC Discussion 8

Jayce the Tamer:
In reply to Igar-Kruk (msg # 904):

That only leaves you 349 BP for race and gear. That's going to be interesting to see what you use for gear.

Gnoll is a 6 RP race, so that's 318 BP worth of gear, or 31800gp. And I already said it, didn't I? A belt, some head-cover and two revolvers. Well, and ammo for the revolvers, obviously. If I skimp on those, a ring, necklace and some bracers might also be added.

BTW, since I've seen that Grunyar mentioned his Archetype in the previsional challenge, I'll mention those for Igar-Kruk : Savage Technologist & Martial Artist.
This message was last edited by the player at 00:41, Tue 12 June 2018.
Jayce the Tamer
Summoner 12,322, 711 posts
Human Summoner
Tue 12 Jun 2018
at 01:00
  • msg #911

Re: OOC Discussion 8

In reply to Igar-Kruk (msg # 910):

Oh. That's sick. I like it.
Igar-Kruk
Barbarimonk 1,349, 35 posts
Gnoll Barbarian/Monk
Tue 12 Jun 2018
at 01:54
  • msg #912

Re: OOC Discussion 8

Let's get back to the topic of sick for when I find out how to flurry with a lightsaber. ;p

So far outside of reaching the customized creation tier and making a Blade of the Sword-Saint that is a plasma blade instead of katana, I haven't found anything.
This message was last edited by the player at 01:55, Tue 12 June 2018.
Jayce the Tamer
Summoner 12,322, 712 posts
Human Summoner
Tue 12 Jun 2018
at 04:34
  • msg #913

Re: OOC Discussion 8

In reply to Igar-Kruk (msg # 912):

Lol, after you fight Grunyar, I'll duel you. Win or lose you'll get more BP off me than anyone else.

Over 2k on a loss, over 4k on a win.

I need assistance with applying a template correctly. Would anyone mind helping me?
This message was last edited by the player at 05:49, Tue 12 June 2018.
Boadicea
Fighter 9,116, 1167 posts
Advanced Human Fighter
Tue 12 Jun 2018
at 09:00
  • msg #914

Re: OOC Discussion 8

Hopefully we have not lost Latro been a few days since he has logged in
Jayce the Tamer
Summoner 12,322, 716 posts
Human Summoner
Tue 12 Jun 2018
at 09:09
  • msg #915

Re: OOC Discussion 8

In reply to Boadicea (msg # 914):

You have a crap ton of BP. We should duel.
Boadicea
Fighter 9,116, 1168 posts
Advanced Human Fighter
Tue 12 Jun 2018
at 09:25
  • msg #916

Re: OOC Discussion 8

In reply to Jayce the Tamer (msg # 915):

Lol, maybe
Latro Dectus
Antipaladin 5,031, 1676 posts
Drow N. Antipaladin
Shadow's Caress
Tue 12 Jun 2018
at 09:45
  • msg #917

Re: OOC Discussion 8

Jayce the Tamer:
In reply to Igar-Kruk (msg # 912):

Lol, after you fight Grunyar, I'll duel you. Win or lose you'll get more BP off me than anyone else.

Over 2k on a loss, over 4k on a win.

I need assistance with applying a template correctly. Would anyone mind helping me?

Take your current level. add the CR of the template you wish to apply to it. Pay BP as if that was your level.
Igar-Kruk
Barbarimonk 1,349, 36 posts
Gnoll Barbarian/Monk
Tue 12 Jun 2018
at 13:31
  • msg #918

Re: OOC Discussion 8

Igar-Kruk:
[...]
The character sheet needs to be updated (shouldn't take too long once I'm back home. By this time tomorrow give or take an hour or two it should be fine.)
[...]

Ready to fight whenver Grunyar is ready.
Grunyar Fangblood
Summoner 6,282, 908 posts
Skinwalker Summoner
Tue 12 Jun 2018
at 13:38
  • msg #919

Re: OOC Discussion 8

In reply to Igar-Kruk (msg # 918):

Grunyar Fangblood challenges Igar-Kruk to a fun duel
  Match Type: PvP
BP/Hero Limit: No Limit BP / standard 3 hero point limit
      Referee: Jayce the Tamer

Participant 1: Grunyar Fangblood, Skinwalker, Master Summoner (17)
Participant 2: Igar-Kruk, Gnoll, Barbarian(Savage Technologist)/Monk(Martial Artist) (6)
          Map: Small Colosseum
     Lighting: Standard
      Terrain: Standard
        Walls: Standard
         Prep: 1
       Extras: Hidden on the Map;
Grunyar cannot attack Igar-Kruk (see invisibility spell for what constitutes an attack)
Only Grunyar’s Familiar can attack Igar-Kruk.
If Grunyar’s familiar is killed, Grunyar will yield (without penalty to either party)

ooc:


How's this look, just need your lvl
Igar-Kruk
Barbarimonk 1,349, 37 posts
Gnoll Barbarian/Monk
Tue 12 Jun 2018
at 14:05
  • msg #920

Re: OOC Discussion 8

In reply to Grunyar Fangblood (msg # 919):

Level 14. (7/7)

Igar-Kruk:
In reply to Grunyar Fangblood (msg # 902):

I can afford Level 14, so that is what Igar-Kruk will be if possible.

[...]

This message was last edited by the player at 14:05, Tue 12 June 2018.
Jayce the Tamer
Summoner 12,322, 717 posts
Human Summoner
Tue 12 Jun 2018
at 14:51
  • msg #921

Re: OOC Discussion 8

Latro Dectus:
Jayce the Tamer:
In reply to Igar-Kruk (msg # 912):

Lol, after you fight Grunyar, I'll duel you. Win or lose you'll get more BP off me than anyone else.

Over 2k on a loss, over 4k on a win.

I need assistance with applying a template correctly. Would anyone mind helping me?

Take your current level. add the CR of the template you wish to apply to it. Pay BP as if that was your level.

I know how to pay for it, I am stumped on one part for adding it to my character.
Latro Dectus
Antipaladin 5,031, 1677 posts
Drow N. Antipaladin
Shadow's Caress
Tue 12 Jun 2018
at 15:33
  • msg #922

Re: OOC Discussion 8

well, seeing as we cant keep templates a secret when entering a match, whats the part that's got you stumped?
Jayce the Tamer
Summoner 12,322, 718 posts
Human Summoner
Tue 12 Jun 2018
at 17:05
  • msg #923

Re: OOC Discussion 8

In reply to Latro Dectus (msg # 922):

Animal lord

Ability Scores: Animal lords use the higher ability score between the base creature and the base animal as their base ability scores, then increase all of these ability scores by +4.

Let's say grizzly bear has 23 strength.



My question:

Is this adding +12 racial, or if my str as a human was 8[let's just say] would it just be I use 23 grizzly bear str instead as my base? I get no matter what I add 4 at the end. What makes it tricky is we use point buy and it was intended for npc that have prebuilt stats.


So could I point buy all mental and leave my physicals at 10 and get to use the grizzly bears physical as my base?

If nothing else.my class, feats and even template keep me thematic I would say.
This message was last edited by the player at 17:08, Tue 12 June 2018.
Igar-Kruk
Barbarimonk 1,349, 38 posts
Gnoll Barbarian/Monk
Tue 12 Jun 2018
at 17:24
  • msg #924

Re: OOC Discussion 8

My read is that indeed, say you have Str-Dex-Con-Int-Wis-Cha of :
8-14-12-18-8-10
While a grizzly has :
21-13-19-2-12-6

You take the best one each time, +4. So :
25-18-23-22-16-14


I used to think that advanced was the best template around. Evidently I was wrong.

PS :  Grizzly bears are not the most grizzly thing you can do with this in terms of animals.

Hm... I wonder if Enlarge + Permanency would be enough to take the template with a huge creature. Mind you, it'd still be tough to beat the Dire Tiger.
This message was last edited by the player at 17:34, Tue 12 June 2018.
Jayce the Tamer
Summoner 12,322, 719 posts
Human Summoner
Tue 12 Jun 2018
at 17:40
  • msg #925

Re: OOC Discussion 8

In reply to Igar-Kruk (msg # 924):

I 5hought so but I needed to double check k. Also, it's one of the more broken OP AF templates.


I'm not using grizzly I just used it as an example.
Jayce the Tamer
Summoner 12,322, 720 posts
Human Summoner
Tue 12 Jun 2018
at 18:51
  • msg #926

Re: OOC Discussion 8

In reply to Igar-Kruk (msg # 924):

Igar. Hahaha. Delete your post in challenge thread. Quote grunyarand just say accept.
Josep Gavinho
Wizard 7,544, 1550 posts
Human Wizard
Thaumaturgical Alliance
Tue 12 Jun 2018
at 19:46
  • msg #927

Re: OOC Discussion 8

 If Brakt the Ogre was still around, he could take the T-Rex Lord template. Or Mammoth Lord.

 I start to understand why Arkrim was reluctant to templates ;)
Jayce the Tamer
Summoner 12,322, 722 posts
Human Summoner
Tue 12 Jun 2018
at 20:05
  • msg #928

Re: OOC Discussion 8

In reply to Josep Gavinho (msg # 927):

Stealing my ideas
Igar-Kruk
Barbarimonk 1,349, 41 posts
Gnoll Barbarian/Monk
Tue 12 Jun 2018
at 20:29
  • msg #929

Re: OOC Discussion 8

In reply to Josep Gavinho (msg # 927):

T-Rex are Gargantuan. If you want something like a T-Rex but "only" Huge, you've got the Allosaurus, though - the main alternative to the Dire Tiger for Wildshape druids.
Ankou
Druid 7,689, 707 posts
Aug. Human Goliath Druid
Thaumaturgical Alliance
Wed 13 Jun 2018
at 00:04
  • msg #930

Re: OOC Discussion 8

Talking of druids, anyone wants to battle the Ankou?
Jayce the Tamer
Summoner 12,322, 726 posts
Human Summoner
Wed 13 Jun 2018
at 17:06
  • msg #931

Re: OOC Discussion 8

In my opinion the emanation off of Latro would need to touching the origin point. Point of the spell the magic springs from. And this is only if we are going to say AF, or any emanation, that seeps into an AoE  could affect the entire AoE.

Example:

Fireball shot in center of ring.

I'm on the outside of the fireball with 5ft or 10ft aura. What my aura touches it affects such that the CL is reduced by 11. But nothing outside of what my aura/emanation touches.

Fireball CL 17-11 = CL6
Fireball still works at 6d6 damage.


Fireball shot in center of ring.

I'm in the center of the fireball(origin point). My AF affects the entire area of the spell because where the magic is pinpointed and shooting out from, I'm affecting with my effect.


Otherwise it would not make sense really.
Ankou
Druid 7,689, 708 posts
Aug. Human Goliath Druid
Thaumaturgical Alliance
Wed 13 Jun 2018
at 19:33
  • msg #932

Re: OOC Discussion 8

Grunyar, you posted a PM to me in your fight. I imagine it was meant for Jayce.
Not that there was anything really interesting in that PM, mind you ;)
Josep Gavinho
Wizard 7,544, 1561 posts
Human Wizard
Thaumaturgical Alliance
Wed 13 Jun 2018
at 20:07
  • msg #933

Re: OOC Discussion 8

Jayce the Tamer:
Igar, never edit a combat post. This your first time, I'm sure nobody will hassle you. Future reference, never edit it.

 Never ever ever !

Jayce the Tamer
Summoner 12,322, 729 posts
Human Summoner
Wed 13 Jun 2018
at 22:11
  • msg #934

Re: OOC Discussion 8

In reply to Ankou (msg # 930):

I really can't duel you. I tell you all of my build ideas as I make them. But that could be my handicap. I'll fight you after igar if igar wants to accept my duel.
Igar-Kruk
Barbarimonk 1,349, 46 posts
Gnoll Barbarian/Monk
Wed 13 Jun 2018
at 23:03
  • msg #935

Re: OOC Discussion 8

Yeah, I'd be happy to fight you after Grunyar. Assuming I manage to avoid fucking up monumentally on the way.
Grunyar Fangblood
Summoner 6,282, 912 posts
Skinwalker Summoner
Thu 14 Jun 2018
at 01:45
  • msg #936

Re: OOC Discussion 8

Apologies for the delay Igar, had a plan all laid out then started putting everything in post and realized I had it all wrong so it'll be morning before I get my post up
Latro Dectus
Antipaladin 5,031, 1688 posts
Drow N. Antipaladin
Shadow's Caress
Fri 15 Jun 2018
at 17:28
  • msg #937

Re: OOC Discussion 8

question for the community:
Because a paladin can use Lay on Hands on themselves as a swift action, would it not be unreasonable to say an Anti-Paladin could do the same with their touch of corruption.

Granted this would have next to no use before they became undead, but does it seem fair? If an living Paladin can heals themselves as a swift action should an undead anti-paladin also have this same function?
Jayce the Tamer
Summoner 12,322, 733 posts
Human Summoner
Fri 15 Jun 2018
at 18:15
  • msg #938

Re: OOC Discussion 8

I would almost be willing to say yes. Almost, except Dhampir already heal from negative energy and with the release of the race there was not an errata on ToC.

So, only due to that I would say no. ToC can harm living creatures and Lay on Hands cannot. It can harm undead sure, how useful would you say that would be in this arena? And in most games I've played not really many undead. The two remain balanced.
Igar-Kruk
Barbarimonk 1,349, 52 posts
Gnoll Barbarian/Monk
Fri 15 Jun 2018
at 20:07
  • msg #939

Re: OOC Discussion 8

Well, RAW the answer is no. And for the reasons mentionned by Jayce, I am uncertain just giving antipaladins the ability to touch themselves as a swift action is balanced.

I'd be okay with a feat that would allow Antipaladins to touch themselves as a swift action, though.
Jayce the Tamer
Summoner 12,322, 735 posts
Human Summoner
Sat 16 Jun 2018
at 10:04
  • msg #940

Re: OOC Discussion 8

Hahaha, Josep.
Jayce the Tamer
Summoner 12,322, 738 posts
Human Summoner
Mon 18 Jun 2018
at 01:04
  • msg #941

Re: OOC Discussion 8

How do you all have so many hero points? I only ever have 1. :(
Josep Gavinho
Wizard 7,544, 1578 posts
Human Wizard
Thaumaturgical Alliance
Mon 18 Jun 2018
at 06:46
  • msg #942

Re: OOC Discussion 8

You spend one in every match!
Even when you don’t need to, I should add ;)
Igar-Kruk
Barbarimonk 1,349, 55 posts
Gnoll Barbarian/Monk
Mon 18 Jun 2018
at 12:08
  • msg #943

Re: OOC Discussion 8

What Hero points? ;p
Josep Gavinho
Wizard 7,544, 1596 posts
Human Wizard
Thaumaturgical Alliance
Fri 22 Jun 2018
at 23:09
  • msg #944

Re: OOC Discussion 8

 I love how the other duel was supposed to be Rex vs Igar, and now there are 7 creatures on the field coaching the little dinosaur!
Grunyar Fangblood
Summoner 6,282, 922 posts
Skinwalker Summoner
Fri 22 Jun 2018
at 23:28
  • msg #945

Re: OOC Discussion 8

In reply to Josep Gavinho (msg # 944):

LOL well I miss understood how Beast form worked (wishful thinking) so Rex is way under powered than what I had in my head so he needs all the help he can get and seems like all the creatures with more than one helpful spell is a good alignment.  Dang goody two shoes get all the nice buffs :)
Ankou
Druid 7,689, 709 posts
Aug. Human Goliath Druid
Thaumaturgical Alliance
Sun 24 Jun 2018
at 16:02
  • msg #946

Re: OOC Discussion 8

Anyone around here wants to get nasty with a big druid?

Ugrim?
Josep Gavinho
Wizard 7,544, 1608 posts
Human Wizard
Thaumaturgical Alliance
Wed 27 Jun 2018
at 10:54
  • msg #947

Re: OOC Discussion 8

Grunyar, are you actually resetting your leaderboard score ??
You won’t be veteran anymore..:
Grunyar Fangblood
Summoner 6,282, 932 posts
Skinwalker Summoner
Wed 27 Jun 2018
at 11:20
  • msg #948

Re: OOC Discussion 8

There is an "and/or" on there so no leaderboard just Race.

All the cool kids are Humans I want to as well (pay BP for feats what's not to love and I may even move my alignment)
Josep Gavinho
Wizard 7,544, 1609 posts
Human Wizard
Thaumaturgical Alliance
Wed 27 Jun 2018
at 12:11
  • msg #949

Re: OOC Discussion 8

Humans are arguably the best option in pathfinder for most builds, but they’re unequivocally the absolute best if not only viable option for any build in the arena, with the BP for traits rule.

They way I read it, you don’t lose HP for resetting just race.
This message was last edited by the player at 12:13, Wed 27 June 2018.
Grunyar Fangblood
Summoner 6,282, 933 posts
Skinwalker Summoner
Wed 27 Jun 2018
at 12:19
  • msg #950

Re: OOC Discussion 8

In reply to Josep Gavinho (msg # 949):

LOL, you are right sometimes I wonder at what level is my reading comprehension, when I do bone head things like that.  Well at least I get one from the battle.
Igar-Kruk
Barbarimonk 1,349, 69 posts
Gnoll Barbarian/Monk
Wed 27 Jun 2018
at 12:48
  • msg #951

Re: OOC Discussion 8

Oh, that's neat. *takes note*

There is a hidden achievement for a hundred defeats in a row, right?



Anyway, do you guys know whether Androids are allowed? The Inner Sea Bestiary does add RP costs for the new android racial traits, meaning you can build it using the Race Guide rules. However those RP costs are not in the Advanced Race Guide itself, so I'm not certain.

I can of course always ask on the inquiry thread, but it'd be a waste to do so if you already know the answer.
Grunyar Fangblood
Summoner 6,282, 934 posts
Skinwalker Summoner
Wed 27 Jun 2018
at 13:35
  • msg #952

Re: OOC Discussion 8

I think that
quote:
Repairing Nanites:
is the only trait you can add to Android at the moment.

You can always wager some BP and suggest something balanced to GM
Igar-Kruk
Barbarimonk 1,349, 70 posts
Gnoll Barbarian/Monk
Wed 27 Jun 2018
at 14:12
  • msg #953

Re: OOC Discussion 8

I meant in relation to this little rule :
"Banned Races":
Any race that cannot be built using the existing rules from the Advanced Race Guide (and official Paizo errata for it) will not be allowed. You must earn achievements to customize your own (see Achievements).

Nanite Surge, Emotionless and Constructed aren't in the Advanced Race Guide, hence don't have RP costs in there, but the android race entry in the Inner Sea Bestiary does have RP costs for those three traits & a total RP cost for the race. (which you see written up on D20PFSRD)

Which is why I am unsure whether the android race as a whole is allowed or not.
This message was last edited by the player at 14:13, Wed 27 June 2018.
Jayce the Tamer
Summoner 12,322, 744 posts
Human Summoner
Wed 27 Jun 2018
at 17:20
  • msg #954

Re: OOC Discussion 8

I need to duel boa eventually to get that BP boost. Haha.


Igar if you still want to duel AFTER this match closes just let me know. If you want some weird special rule for it to be easier for you like Josep and grunyar had let me know. But I may be OP even if I sat in the corner and you only dueled my Eidolon. Sasha is gangster.
Igar-Kruk
Barbarimonk 1,349, 71 posts
Gnoll Barbarian/Monk
Wed 27 Jun 2018
at 17:57
  • msg #955

Re: OOC Discussion 8

Yeah, I'm still game.

Hm... Jayce takes a nap in the stands while a blindfolded Sasha makes gnoll sashimi? ^^

Honestly, I don't expect much outside of a very quick match, even if Jayce does spend the entire match reading a book.
This message was last edited by the player at 17:59, Wed 27 June 2018.
Boadicea
Fighter 9,116, 1200 posts
Advanced Human Fighter
Wed 27 Jun 2018
at 22:41
  • msg #956

Re: OOC Discussion 8

Android is allowed I was one for a short bit tried a rage cycle build Android helps  with the fatigue thing
Igar-Kruk
Barbarimonk 1,349, 72 posts
Gnoll Barbarian/Monk
Wed 27 Jun 2018
at 23:54
  • msg #957

Re: OOC Discussion 8

In reply to Boadicea (msg # 956):

Thank you very much Boadicea!

Although... Androids can't get morale bonii and are immune to emotional effects, so how does an android barbarian even wor- ah, of course, the Empathy feat from People of the Stars!

Quite an interesting approach I must say.
Latro Dectus
Antipaladin 5,031, 1731 posts
Drow N. Antipaladin
Shadow's Caress
Thu 28 Jun 2018
at 16:17
  • msg #958

Re: OOC Discussion 8

Yo, where the section about how long spells last go too?

I was trying to figure out how long an hour/level spell would last in the arena but im not seeing that chart anymore.
Jayce the Tamer
Summoner 12,322, 745 posts
Human Summoner
Thu 28 Jun 2018
at 19:33
  • msg #959

Re: OOC Discussion 8

He removed it either accidentally or in purpose. April 3rd announcement shows he harshly limited spell durations.
Josep Gavinho
Wizard 7,544, 1610 posts
Human Wizard
Thaumaturgical Alliance
Thu 28 Jun 2018
at 21:11
  • msg #960

Re: OOC Discussion 8

 hour/level was 4 rnds/llvl
 10min/level was 3 rnds/lvl
 1min/level was 2 rnds/lvl
as far as I can recall
Ugrim
Bloodmagus 1,681, 541 posts
Adv. Orc Bloodmagus
Shadow's Caress
Fri 29 Jun 2018
at 06:38
  • msg #961

Re: OOC Discussion 8

In reply to Ankou (msg # 946):

Sure, why not?

my only condition is no summoning. We go toe to toe as men and beat the snot out of each other with our own might.
Ankou
Druid 7,689, 710 posts
Aug. Human Goliath Druid
Thaumaturgical Alliance
Fri 29 Jun 2018
at 07:14
  • msg #962

Re: OOC Discussion 8

Sounds good! If it was down to me, there would be no summoning at all in the arena — it is wildly overpowered.

Small Colosseum?
Ugrim
Bloodmagus 1,681, 542 posts
Adv. Orc Bloodmagus
Shadow's Caress
Fri 29 Jun 2018
at 07:37
  • msg #963

Re: OOC Discussion 8

I'll take it.

1 prep round?

I'd like to be able to get at least one buff spell off before you murder me with your druid powers. The difference in BP is quite massive.
Ugrim
Bloodmagus 1,681, 543 posts
Adv. Orc Bloodmagus
Shadow's Caress
Fri 29 Jun 2018
at 08:07
  • msg #964

Re: OOC Discussion 8

I will say though i very much want to go toe to to with Igar and his barbarimonk.

There can only be one strongest barbarian in this arena and that's Ugrim.


Side Note: Man if i wasn't already Shadow's Caress i would totally start a guild where only those that can rage are allowed in. It would be called "Too Swol to Control." Just a bunch of buff bros and gals Swoling it up 100% of the time 24/7. getting into arm wrestling matches and constantly punching each other to prove their dominance.
This message was last edited by the player at 08:10, Fri 29 June 2018.
Igar-Kruk
Barbarimonk 1,349, 73 posts
Gnoll Barbarian/Monk
Fri 29 Jun 2018
at 12:21
  • msg #965

Re: OOC Discussion 8

Sure, I'll happilly squeeze in another match between getting splated across the arena by Jayce and resetting!
Jayce the Tamer
Summoner 12,322, 746 posts
Human Summoner
Fri 29 Jun 2018
at 17:20
  • msg #966

Re: OOC Discussion 8

I think we are missing the fact that UP TO means maximum possible but also means can be smaller than.
Boadicea
Fighter 9,116, 1207 posts
Advanced Human Fighter
Fri 29 Jun 2018
at 18:23
  • msg #967

Re: OOC Discussion 8

In reply to Jayce the Tamer (msg # 966):

+1
Igar-Kruk
Barbarimonk 1,349, 74 posts
Gnoll Barbarian/Monk
Fri 29 Jun 2018
at 19:27
  • msg #968

Re: OOC Discussion 8

The question is really down to semantics and the ambiguity of the English language. In this case in "whose area is up to one 10-foot square per level", what does the "up to" refer to?

Ie, is it as many 10-foot squares as you like up to your caster level or as many squares up to your caster level that can be up to 10 feet in side? (it does seem to indicate up to X 10 feet squares in my opinion, whether it was RAI or not.)
This message was last edited by the player at 19:31, Fri 29 June 2018.
Boadicea
Fighter 9,116, 1208 posts
Advanced Human Fighter
Fri 29 Jun 2018
at 19:51
  • msg #969

Re: OOC Discussion 8

The part that really to me calls out the 10*10 is an example/unit of measure for the square footage is the "whose area is up to one 10 square per level" and area being L*W wouldn't it say wall made up of 10' squares instead of area
Igar-Kruk
Barbarimonk 1,349, 75 posts
Gnoll Barbarian/Monk
Fri 29 Jun 2018
at 21:11
  • msg #970

Re: OOC Discussion 8

It is the exact same formulation as Wall of Stone & Wall of Iron, except that those specify 5-foot squares and mention 5-foot square section (since you can break individual sections).

Plus, this spell says 10-foot squares, but there are other spells which talk about about straight up square feet, like symbol of sealing.

Honestly it is ambiguously worded (same terrible wording as in 3.5 actually) and I understand where you are coming from, even if I disagree. The D&D 5e version is worded far better, but that isn't relevant to this question.


PS : Wall of X make for boring arena matches anyway and i wouldn't shed a single tear if they were banned. ;p
This message was last edited by the player at 21:19, Fri 29 June 2018.
Boadicea
Fighter 9,116, 1209 posts
Advanced Human Fighter
Fri 29 Jun 2018
at 21:22
  • msg #971

Re: OOC Discussion 8

I would not cry either if Force wall was removed but there are ways to bypass it
Jayce the Tamer
Summoner 12,322, 747 posts
Human Summoner
Fri 29 Jun 2018
at 21:39
  • msg #972

Re: OOC Discussion 8

Igar-Kruk:
It is the exact same formulation as Wall of Stone & Wall of Iron, except that those specify 5-foot squares and mention 5-foot square section (since you can break individual sections).

Plus, this spell says 10-foot squares, but there are other spells which talk about about straight up square feet, like symbol of sealing.

Honestly it is ambiguously worded (same terrible wording as in 3.5 actually) and I understand where you are coming from, even if I disagree. The D&D 5e version is worded far better, but that isn't relevant to this question.


PS : Wall of X make for boring arena matches anyway and i wouldn't shed a single tear if they were banned. ;p



Out of curiosity how is it worded? Arkrim does make house rules sometimes and maybe this is one we need to make.
Igar-Kruk
Barbarimonk 1,349, 76 posts
Gnoll Barbarian/Monk
Fri 29 Jun 2018
at 22:17
  • msg #973

Re: OOC Discussion 8

Well, it says "[...]or you can shape a flat surface made up of ten 10-foot-by-10-foot panels. Each panel must be contiguous with another panel.", which has the merit of making it unambiguous about the size of the components.

Mind you in 5e spells don't scale with caster level so that has to be taken into account if porting, plus there are a couple differences between how the spell works between 3.5/pathfinder and 5e.

It's actually part of the good ol' d20srd, as WotC added a 5e section in addition to the 3.5 section.
http://5e.d20srd.org/srd/spells/wallOfForce.htm
This message was last edited by the player at 22:17, Fri 29 June 2018.
Josep Gavinho
Wizard 7,544, 1613 posts
Human Wizard
Thaumaturgical Alliance
Sat 30 Jun 2018
at 17:14
  • msg #974

Re: OOC Discussion 8

Even if you twist the words to mean “up to a certain number of 10ft squares”, there’s nothing saying it needs to be a round number of squares in any direction. My wall could be 3.95 10ft squares wide, 5.00 10ft square tall.

But that opens a whole lot of weird situations, could you do a crenelated wall? A wall taller one side than the other? Leave just a 10ft square missing in the top corner of a wall?

My understanding is the wall needs to be a plain rectangle, with an area up to 10ft square by level (ie 1700 sqft at my level).
Igar-Kruk
Barbarimonk 1,349, 77 posts
Gnoll Barbarian/Monk
Sat 30 Jun 2018
at 18:08
  • msg #975

Re: OOC Discussion 8

In reply to Josep Gavinho (msg # 974):

Half a ten-foot square is not a ten-foot square. Indeed, in your example they aren't even squares anymore.

You can shape wall of stone - there are mentions of crenelations, doubled thicknesses, buttresses... Wall of force has to be a flat vertical, unbroken and continuous plane. Partially redundant since a plane is a 2d surface in which any two points in it can be connected by a straight line wholly within the surface.

Like I said, I understand where you are coming from, but the spell doesn't use square feet - which exist in Pathfinder spell effects - but ten-foot squares. For me they should have included a second "up to" or "of no more than" or worded it "an area of up to the equivalent of" for that to be grammatically correct. I'd go so far as to say that your version might be RAI, although Paizo didn't touch the spell when porting from 3.5, so intent starts getting muddy.

Mind you, the 10-ft. square mess was a change in wording between 1st and 2nd edition AD&D when it went from 20 square feet to one 10-ft. square.
This message was last edited by the player at 18:09, Sat 30 June 2018.
Josep Gavinho
Wizard 7,544, 1614 posts
Human Wizard
Thaumaturgical Alliance
Sat 30 Jun 2018
at 19:46
  • msg #976

Re: OOC Discussion 8

It’s not only the rule as intended, it’s also the rule as enforced in the arena since the first time wall of force was cast.

As far as I recall, no wall of force I cast was in 10ft square increments.
Josep Gavinho
Wizard 7,544, 1616 posts
Human Wizard
Thaumaturgical Alliance
Sat 30 Jun 2018
at 22:09
  • msg #977

Re: OOC Discussion 8

Arkrim, you've made your call regarding the ongoing fight, and I want things to move along there, but can we talk about some of this here?

Arkrim:
1) All area effects are bound by the lines of the grid.
You cannot be 3 inches in or out or over the lines. You're on the lines and inside the squares. This ruling has been made many times and you shouldn't even be asking about it at this point.

2) You cannot customize shapes of your area effects.
Unless explicitly noted otherwise by the effect or some other feat or ability that says you can, you cannot alter the shape described in the effect. So no creating "gaps" or "holes" in walls or anything like that. It is assumed you can make areas smaller than normal, but you cannot customize the shapes. So if you normally have a 30-foot cone, you can make it a 15-foot cone instead but you cannot alter it from a cone to a blast or burst or attempt to alter it's ratio size off what the grid allows in 5-foot increments (you could not do a 7.5-foot cone or 3 inch cone but it would always be split into management whole number increments based on the grid and the base spell BOTH needed to have whole numbers on any ratio reduction). Same thing applies to walls and all area effects. You can make the wall SMALLER than the spell states, but not bigger nor can you customize its shape. It's always in 10-foot increments for walls of force AS DESCRIBED IN THE SPELL.

3) Any wall with a thickness less than this lays ON THE LINE OF THE GRID.

Any wall with a thickness equal to or greater than 2.5 feet fills the square that it's in (pick one). Also no exceptions here. Assume a wall is 1 inch thick unless exclusively noted otherwise.


I've highlighted the sections that puzzle me, could you elaborate on the following:
 - are you suggesting we can reduce the area of spells willy-nilly? Like, make a 5ft fireball for example? That's a huge change from core rules, so if it is what you mean, I suppose it should be explicitly said.

 - Wall of Force doesn't say that it needs to be in 10ft increment. You can decide that it is the rule here for balance purposes or shenanigan prevention or any other reason, but that's not how wall of force works anywhere else.

 - on the line of the grid: does that mean that we can't create a wall on a diagonal?
Jayce the Tamer
Summoner 12,322, 748 posts
Human Summoner
Sat 30 Jun 2018
at 22:38
  • msg #978

Re: OOC Discussion 8

I'm awaiting the closing of Igar and Grunyar's match.
GM Arkrim
GM, 6519 posts
Game Master
Mon 2 Jul 2018
at 05:14
  • msg #979

Re: OOC Discussion 8

Josep Gavinho:
Arkrim, you've made your call regarding the ongoing fight, and I want things to move along there, but can we talk about some of this here?

Arkrim:
1) All area effects are bound by the lines of the grid.
You cannot be 3 inches in or out or over the lines. You're on the lines and inside the squares. This ruling has been made many times and you shouldn't even be asking about it at this point.

2) You cannot customize shapes of your area effects.
Unless explicitly noted otherwise by the effect or some other feat or ability that says you can, you cannot alter the shape described in the effect. So no creating "gaps" or "holes" in walls or anything like that. It is assumed you can make areas smaller than normal, but you cannot customize the shapes. So if you normally have a 30-foot cone, you can make it a 15-foot cone instead but you cannot alter it from a cone to a blast or burst or attempt to alter it's ratio size off what the grid allows in 5-foot increments (you could not do a 7.5-foot cone or 3 inch cone but it would always be split into management whole number increments based on the grid and the base spell BOTH needed to have whole numbers on any ratio reduction). Same thing applies to walls and all area effects. You can make the wall SMALLER than the spell states, but not bigger nor can you customize its shape. It's always in 10-foot increments for walls of force AS DESCRIBED IN THE SPELL.

3) Any wall with a thickness less than this lays ON THE LINE OF THE GRID.

Any wall with a thickness equal to or greater than 2.5 feet fills the square that it's in (pick one). Also no exceptions here. Assume a wall is 1 inch thick unless exclusively noted otherwise.


I've highlighted the sections that puzzle me, could you elaborate on the following:
 - are you suggesting we can reduce the area of spells willy-nilly? Like, make a 5ft fireball for example? That's a huge change from core rules, so if it is what you mean, I suppose it should be explicitly said.


- Wall of Force doesn't say that it needs to be in 10ft increment. You can decide that it is the rule here for balance purposes or shenanigan prevention or any other reason, but that's not how wall of force works anywhere else.

 - on the line of the grid: does that mean that we can't create a wall on a diagonal?



1) House rules going away, but that'd be my ruling EVERY TIME I'm called in as a GM. Keep in mind, it doesn't mean "willy nilly" since you still have to follow the shape AND grid, so there are actually very few things you can do with it. Your fireball could go from 20-foot to 10-foot or even 5 foot, but not 12.53333 feet, or 19 feet 10 inches or anything silly like that. It'd still have to follow the grid and shape.

2) Actually, that's EXACTLY WHAT IT SAYS IN THE DESCRIPTION. Saying otherwise is literally a blatant lie or the uttering of someone who hasn't read the spell very carefully:
quote:
wall whose area is up to one 10-ft. square/level

You don't get "10 square feet of wall per level" you get "one 10-ft. square/level". That is LITERALLY what it says RAW. I personally think the RAW is silly, but I wasn't asked for what it should be. I was asked for what it is. That's what it is.

3) Yes and no. If you create a diagonal wall that isn't thick enough to fill the squares you get to do this fun zig zag thing. Get creative, but always obey the grid.
Vry
Sorcerer 3,172, 640 posts
Advanced Gnome
Shadow's Caress
Mon 2 Jul 2018
at 07:44
  • msg #980

Re: OOC Discussion 8

I was so sure there is a metamagic feat to reduce the aoe of a spell (one of those feats you'd extremely rarely see used and so haven't seen still today), which would be strange with Arkrim's ruling, but there isn't... (Selective Spell is the closest, and it fills other purposes)
Grunyar Fangblood
Summoner 6,282, 935 posts
Skinwalker Summoner
Mon 2 Jul 2018
at 09:03
  • msg #981

Re: OOC Discussion 8

In reply to Vry (msg # 980):

Don't have time to do the leg work I was thinking same thing.  Must have been in D&D 3.5 or was it a class.
Josep Gavinho
Wizard 7,544, 1617 posts
Human Wizard
Thaumaturgical Alliance
Mon 2 Jul 2018
at 14:52
  • msg #982

Re: OOC Discussion 8

Arkrim:
3) Yes and no. If you create a diagonal wall that isn't thick enough to fill the squares you get to do this fun zig zag thing. Get creative, but always obey the grid.


 Wall of Force cannot turn corners. It needs to be a flat plane.
Nothing in the rules says it needs to be a plane that’s orthogonal with true North or whatever the grid is based on, but is says it needs to be flat.
 But I suppose your ruling supersedes that.
 Rules are so far down the drain they’re probably at sea right now ;) Let’s get creative !
GM Arkrim
GM, 6520 posts
Game Master
Mon 2 Jul 2018
at 23:29
  • msg #983

Re: OOC Discussion 8

In reply to Vry (msg # 980):
That's just how I'd rule it as a referee. Not all referees will be so generous since there's no RAW to give it to you unless you have a special feat or class feature or whatnot.


In reply to Josep Gavinho (msg # 982):
Yes, that's the idea. We're flushing the majority of the house rules and going back to RAW.

We will still have rulings (interpretations of the rules where they are vague) but house rules will be chucked (save for the ones necessary explicitly for the arena, such as arena immunities, non-transition outside the arena, and gridlines, for example). If you did a diagonal line it would still be "flat" RP-wise but in the game it would have to work on the grid. Remember, "straight line" as far as RAW is concerned has always included zig zagging for movement when weird angles come into play. Nothing has changed. If you've ever actually played with a grid and run at a target with anything other than a perfect line on the grid to them, then you should already know how that works. Most people figure that out early when they first learn D&D or Pathfinder. "straight line" is hardly ever TRULY straight.
This message was last edited by the GM at 23:32, Mon 02 July 2018.
Boadicea
Fighter 9,116, 1212 posts
Advanced Human Fighter
Mon 2 Jul 2018
at 23:58
  • msg #984

Re: OOC Discussion 8

quote:
If you've ever actually played with a grid and run at a target with anything other than a perfect line on the grid to them, then you should already know how that works. Most people figure that out early when they first learn D&D or Pathfinder. "straight line" is hardly ever TRULY straight.



Thank you GM, I know at least one rules lawyer who in a heartbeat would question that if a "straight" wall was used in combat against him. He knows who I am talking about :).  For charges and movement I knew that but I never thought of it in that way for walls and the like.
GM Arkrim
GM, 6521 posts
Game Master
Tue 3 Jul 2018
at 10:59
  • msg #985

Re: OOC Discussion 8

In reply to Boadicea (msg # 984):

A lot of people just avoid using walls in any fashion other than squares so they don't have to think about it, but it's the closest thing to match the AOE rules/restrictions/templates that they have in the existing game. When the game gives pre-designated templates for all AoEs except for 1 type (walls) the obvious reaction to that is to continue the pattern they were working off of where the missing information is. Again, that goes into making rulings where the rules themselves are vague, paradoxical, or simply non-existent.
Igar-Kruk
Barbarimonk 1,349, 78 posts
Gnoll Barbarian/Monk
Wed 4 Jul 2018
at 10:29
  • msg #986

Re: OOC Discussion 8

Hey, does anybody know where the part about the 1d% for miss chance needing to be higher than the miss chance is actually written? I might need to cite sources to win an argument soon but can't find it in either the core or gm books. ^^'
This message was last edited by the player at 10:30, Wed 04 July 2018.
Josep Gavinho
Wizard 7,544, 1619 posts
Human Wizard
Thaumaturgical Alliance
Wed 4 Jul 2018
at 12:28
  • msg #987

Re: OOC Discussion 8

I think it is only inferred by the fact that it’s calles a “50% miss chance”, not a “50% hit chance”.
Even if it’s not RAW in core, it’s certainly the rule in the Arena.
Jayce the Tamer
Summoner 13,275, 750 posts
Human Summoner
Thu 5 Jul 2018
at 03:14
  • msg #988

Re: OOC Discussion 8

Yay! Our match is closed. Igar. Do you want to tango?
Igar-Kruk
Barbarimonk 2,396, 79 posts
Gnoll Barbarian/Monk
Thu 5 Jul 2018
at 23:02
  • msg #989

Re: OOC Discussion 8

In reply to Jayce the Tamer (msg # 988):

Ave GM, morituri te salutant!

I mean yes.
Jayce the Tamer
Summoner 13,275, 751 posts
Human Summoner
Fri 6 Jul 2018
at 02:10
  • msg #990

Re: OOC Discussion 8

In reply to Igar-Kruk (msg # 989):

Haha, I love it. You know that's a game?
Grunyar Fangblood
Summoner 6,731, 936 posts
Skinwalker Summoner
Fri 6 Jul 2018
at 02:22
  • msg #991

Re: OOC Discussion 8

Man was about to post PM to change race when I noticed that I didn't have veteran status then saw this :(

quote:
Victory
Battle-scarred: Fight in 10 PvP battles.
Veteran: Fight in 25 PvP battles.
Great Old One: Fight in 50 PvP battles.


So I am only battle scarred...
Jayce the Tamer
Summoner 13,275, 752 posts
Human Summoner
Fri 6 Jul 2018
at 02:43
  • msg #992

Re: OOC Discussion 8

In reply to Grunyar Fangblood (msg # 991):

Dang. Changed it up. I'm at work and on phone. Can we still use templates at battle.scarred?
GM Arkrim
GM, 6522 posts
Game Master
Fri 6 Jul 2018
at 03:37
  • msg #993

Re: OOC Discussion 8

Still in process of updates.

Yes, you can still change things and use templates. Hold your summoned horses.
Jayce the Tamer
Summoner 13,275, 753 posts
Human Summoner
Fri 6 Jul 2018
at 16:29
  • msg #994

Re: OOC Discussion 8

Vry or grunyar up for a quick ref?
Vry
Sorcerer 3,172, 641 posts
Advanced Gnome
Shadow's Caress
Fri 6 Jul 2018
at 16:43
  • msg #995

Re: OOC Discussion 8

In reply to Jayce the Tamer (msg # 994):

Sure
Jayce the Tamer
Summoner 13,275, 754 posts
Human Summoner
Fri 6 Jul 2018
at 16:59
  • msg #996

Re: OOC Discussion 8

Igar, I'm going to use a template. Animal lord, you can take 1 cohort with NPC levels or an animal up -2 your CR. I'm going to spend a day on my build.
Igar-Kruk
Barbarimonk 2,396, 80 posts
Gnoll Barbarian/Monk
Fri 6 Jul 2018
at 17:18
  • msg #997

Re: OOC Discussion 8

In reply to Jayce the Tamer (msg # 996):

Bleh, minions. ;p

Going to upgrade Igar as well. Might be a bit busy this Week-End, though.
This message was last edited by the player at 17:20, Fri 06 July 2018.
Igar-Kruk
Barbarimonk 2,396, 81 posts
Gnoll Barbarian/Monk
Tue 10 Jul 2018
at 12:41
  • msg #998

Re: OOC Discussion 8

Well, I've updated my sheet.

Also, we're getting really close to the post limit.
Vry
Sorcerer 3,172, 642 posts
Advanced Gnome
Shadow's Caress
Tue 10 Jul 2018
at 13:26
  • msg #999

Re: OOC Discussion 8

In reply to Igar-Kruk (msg # 998):

Rrreeeaaaaally close!
Latro Dectus
Antipaladin 5,031, 1754 posts
Drow N. Antipaladin
Shadow's Caress
Tue 10 Jul 2018
at 13:40
  • msg #1000

Re: OOC Discussion 8

So close i can feel it. Like a wall of force or something.
Vry
Sorcerer 3,172, 643 posts
Advanced Gnome
Shadow's Caress
Tue 10 Jul 2018
at 13:45
  • msg #1001

Re: OOC Discussion 8

*muffled screams from the other side of the wall*
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