OOC Thread #10: Commandments.   Posted by The Raconteur.Group: 0
The Raconteur
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Tue 11 Apr 2017
at 20:42
OOC Thread #10:  Commandments
More OOC goodness!
Pisca Neep Freemish
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Tue 11 Apr 2017
at 21:10
OOC Thread #10:  Commandments
quote:
Sounds like someone has never played Kingdom Hearts!

Never heard of it.

http://www.kingdomhearts.com/home/us/

Ha!  That looks wild.  But no.  Never played.
Pisca Neep Freemish
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Tue 11 Apr 2017
at 23:28
OOC Thread #10:  Commandments
BTW, I'm going to be out of the country from April 19 to roughly May 9.  I'm visiting my brother in Botswana again, and, unlike last time, we'll be heading out into the bush.  I'm not sure there will be cellular out there, let alone internet.  Last I may be able to post will be next Tuesday evening.
The Raconteur
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Wed 12 Apr 2017
at 01:40
OOC Thread #10:  Commandments
Cato, I think we're just waiting for you to share what you discovered from Detect Magic and your arcane knowledge check and then the party can decide where they want to go from here.
Cato Crispin
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Wed 12 Apr 2017
at 01:53
OOC Thread #10:  Commandments
Yeah, sorry.  I'll make a post tomorrow.  Busy days at work.  Getting ready for a short vacation to NYC while the grandparents watch the kids.  It's hard to choose activities.  So many things I want to do on a couple child-free days.  Ride bikes in Central Park?  Enjoy a slow-paced brunch?  See a Broadway Show?
The Raconteur
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Wed 12 Apr 2017
at 01:55
OOC Thread #10:  Commandments
Good luck getting tickets to Hamilton.

I'm sorry, I don't care how good a show is I'm not paying $1,000+ dollars a seat to see it.  I'll see it in five years when all the furor dies down.
Pisca Neep Freemish
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Wed 12 Apr 2017
at 02:31
OOC Thread #10:  Commandments
BTW, do any of those keys fit the door?
The Raconteur
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Wed 12 Apr 2017
at 03:36
OOC Thread #10:  Commandments
No.
Cato Crispin
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Wed 12 Apr 2017
at 15:38
OOC Thread #10:  Commandments
In reply to The Raconteur (msg # 6):

Yeah, that's our thought too.  We were going to swing by the TKTS booth and see what discounted tickets we could get.  We both want to see Hamilton, but not at that price.
Cato Crispin
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Wed 12 Apr 2017
at 15:44
OOC Thread #10:  Commandments
Any thoughts on items?  Obviously the War Razor and the Leather Armor aren't any use for Cato, though the Ring of Protection is probably useful for pretty much anyone.  Cato certainly wouldn't say no to it, though maybe someone who gets hit more in melee would get better use from it.
Kellan Storval
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Wed 12 Apr 2017
at 20:24
OOC Thread #10:  Commandments
Sounds like stuff that might sell well in the cosmopolitan markets of Magnimar to me...It also reminds me that Kellan is desperately in need of a shopping trip.
The Raconteur
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Thu 13 Apr 2017
at 04:00
OOC Thread #10:  Commandments
Sounds like everyone wants to head out?  Start back to Sandpoint?
Kellan Storval
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Thu 13 Apr 2017
at 04:05
OOC Thread #10:  Commandments
Yeah, I think it's about that time. Unless we want to give the Foxglove Estate a closer look before we leave?
Pisca Neep Freemish
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Thu 13 Apr 2017
at 05:08
OOC Thread #10:  Commandments
Pisca wants to look at that well in the Batcave first.

And we have to go back for Iesha too.

This message was last edited by the player at 05:09, Thu 13 Apr 2017.

Liseth Thoradin
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Thu 13 Apr 2017
at 06:34
OOC Thread #10:  Commandments
We might even find a robin in there!
Pisca Neep Freemish
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Thu 13 Apr 2017
at 13:50
OOC Thread #10:  Commandments
I'm hoping for a Bat Computer.  Wouldn't that be cool?

But, on the topic of loot, Pisca could use the Ring of Protection if she's going to continue to perform the role of shield in combats.  Pisca, as a bard, has no option for defensive spells.  But, then again, we've all been attacked at one time or another.

What might ultimately be the best option for this sort of gnome-as-shield tactic, would be a wand of Mage Armor.  Pisca's coming up on a time at which the chances of UMD success are pretty good.

Another tactical possibility I'm going to pursue is the Dervish Dance feat.

https://www.d20pfsrd.com/feats...ervish-dance-combat/
Cato Crispin
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Sat 15 Apr 2017
at 19:26
OOC Thread #10:  Commandments
In reply to The Raconteur (msg # 6):

Yeah. No hamilton tickets for a reasonable price. We're seeing "Kinky Boots" on Broadway.
Pisca Neep Freemish
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Sat 15 Apr 2017
at 22:57
OOC Thread #10:  Commandments
I have a friend who saw it here in Spokane when it came through.  She loved it.
Pisca Neep Freemish
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Wed 19 Apr 2017
at 13:40
OOC Thread #10:  Commandments
I'm off for Darkest Africa.  Might check in from various airports on the way.

See you on the other side.
Cato Crispin
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Wed 19 Apr 2017
at 17:22
OOC Thread #10:  Commandments
In reply to Pisca Neep Freemish (msg # 18):

Yeah, it was great.  A great introduction to seeing an actual Broadway show.  My wife has seen more than me, but she insists that the best place to see actual musicals is Broadway.
The Raconteur
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Wed 19 Apr 2017
at 20:35
OOC Thread #10:  Commandments
Have a great trip, Pisca!  Just got back from vacation myself.  Dallas, Vicksburg, Pensacola, New Orleans, San Antonio, Austin.  :)
Kellan Storval
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Wed 19 Apr 2017
at 20:57
OOC Thread #10:  Commandments
Have fun over there Pisca!

Be safe!
Pisca Neep Freemish
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Wed 19 Apr 2017
at 23:13
OOC Thread #10:  Commandments
From Seattle-Tacoma International Airport, who seem to recently have invented the notion of Free Wifi.  Thereby achieving a higher plateau of civilization.
Liseth Thoradin
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Thu 20 Apr 2017
at 00:05
OOC Thread #10:  Commandments
Pisca:
Thereby achieving a higher plateau of civilization.


Also Cat videos!
The Raconteur
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Fri 21 Apr 2017
at 18:53
OOC Thread #10:  Commandments
So . . . what do you all want to do about the birds?
Cato Crispin
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Sat 22 Apr 2017
at 03:07
OOC Thread #10:  Commandments
Do you suppose undead ravens are still called by the same collective noun?
Pisca Neep Freemish
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Sat 22 Apr 2017
at 06:30
OOC Thread #10:  Commandments
I vote Fireball.

I'm here at my brother's in Gabarone.  We take off for the wilds today.  See you.
Kellan Storval
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Wed 26 Apr 2017
at 15:58
OOC Thread #10:  Commandments
So it sounds like Kellan is going to walk point in an effort to get past the birds, with Cato standing by to nuke it form orbit in case things get all Hitchcocky?
Cato Crispin
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Wed 26 Apr 2017
at 16:15
OOC Thread #10:  Commandments
It's the only way to be sure!

*Edit with an actual reply.
Yes, I think that's a good plan.  Well, perhaps not for Kellan if he gets besieged by a swarm of angry undead birds.

This message was last edited by the player at 16:16, Wed 26 Apr 2017.

The Raconteur
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Wed 26 Apr 2017
at 18:53
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Kerr could go out there and detect evil on them if you all are wanting to determine that.
The Raconteur
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Fri 28 Apr 2017
at 04:58
OOC Thread #10:  Commandments
So . . . any actions for the party?

Are you guys getting bored with the game?
Kellan Storval
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Fri 28 Apr 2017
at 13:00
OOC Thread #10:  Commandments
Certainly not bored, I'm actually very much looking forward to the return to Sandpoint and seeing the party in Magnimar.

I suppose we have just lost a good posting rythm is all, feels a bit disjointed.

I'm sure it would not be hard to get back if we just recommited.
Cato Crispin
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Fri 28 Apr 2017
at 14:07
OOC Thread #10:  Commandments
In reply to Kellan Storval (msg # 32):

No, I'm not bored either.  I think here we're just having a minor bit of indecision.  It feels like there should be a way to bypass these evil birds without resorting to combat (or at least it does to me) but I can't figure out what it might be.  Kellan, want to go with the original plan?  You can see if they are aggressive, and Cato can lob a fireball if they turn out to be?
Kellan Storval
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Thu 4 May 2017
at 18:54
OOC Thread #10:  Commandments
Seems like we might be on hiatus until Pisca gets back?

Had anybody heard from Lisa?
The Raconteur
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Thu 4 May 2017
at 19:38
OOC Thread #10:  Commandments
I have not; she hasn't checked in for a while.

But since we have some time . . . congratulations and welcome to level 6!  :)

To reflect your work together, during the levelling process, each party member may take a free teamwork feat of their choice (subject to my approval).  Of course, teamwork feats are more useful if multiple people have them, so you'll probably want to figure out which one or two feats would be best for the party.
Kellan Storval
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Thu 4 May 2017
at 21:04
OOC Thread #10:  Commandments
Sounds great...now we just need Liseth to log in...maybe I should shoot her an Rmail..
Cato Crispin
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Fri 5 May 2017
at 15:29
OOC Thread #10:  Commandments
Ooo...Teamwork Feats.  I've never actually taken one before.

Bonded Mind would free up another spell for Pisca to cast.
Escape Route might be handy as well, along with Stick Together.
Elemental Conmixture might be interesting, though I'm not sure Liseth or Pisca have any spells that would help.
Liseth Thoradin
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Sat 6 May 2017
at 07:58
OOC Thread #10:  Commandments
I'm here!  Sorry for disappearing.  I got stuck in a funk and kind of withdrew from everything for a while.

I'll just catch up before I go into looking at Teamwork Feats, I think

Sorry again.
Kellan Storval
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Sat 6 May 2017
at 18:00
OOC Thread #10:  Commandments
No worries at all Liseth, and welcome back.

Now hopefully when Pisca gets back from the interior, we can tackle Magnimar with renewed energy.
Pisca Neep Freemish
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Sun 7 May 2017
at 04:35
OOC Thread #10:  Commandments
Pisca is BACK!  Well, sort of.  Got back into Gaborone last night and am posting from my brother's place.  Internet.  A bed.  All mod cons.  Ahhh.  Still have to make the long flight back home.

But the trip was amazing.  4-Wheeling through the African bush.  Getting stuck in the mud.  Getting stuck in the sand.  Breaking down kilometers from any form of civilization.  The couple who came to tow us out were so nice that it made the breakdown worth it.  Then having the transmission repairs all covered under warrantee.  What a nice surprise.  We had an elephant come right into our camp.  Baboons who trashed the camp right next to us.  Got to within feet of a lion pride around their kill.  And so many stars in the night sky.

I hope you're feeling better, Liseth.  That teamwork feat sounds very cool.  Didn't we discuss this before?  What feat had we decided on?  I think you had narrowed things to one or two that were very nice.
Kellan Storval
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Sun 7 May 2017
at 13:44
OOC Thread #10:  Commandments
Nice! The gang's all here...

I do seem to recall this discussion before, I think I may have voted for the Escape Route Teamwork feat?
Cato Crispin
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Sun 7 May 2017
at 15:01
OOC Thread #10:  Commandments
In reply to Kellan Storval (msg # 41):

Yeah, that does seem to come up. Escape Route could be very handy.
Kellan Storval
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Sun 7 May 2017
at 16:09
OOC Thread #10:  Commandments
I'm thinking maybe "Felling Smash" for Kellans feat this level, it would give him one Power Attack with no penalty to hit (Thanks to Furious Focus) and a free trip attempt along with it every round.

Would be nice to not have to pick between the two.
Pisca Neep Freemish
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Sun 7 May 2017
at 17:53
Re: OOC Thread #10:  Commandments
Kellan Storval:
Nice! The gang's all here...

I do seem to recall this discussion before, I think I may have voted for the Escape Route Teamwork feat?

Yes.  I think that was it.  Escape Route.
Liseth Thoradin
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Mon 8 May 2017
at 00:34
Re: OOC Thread #10:  Commandments
Wow Pisca, that sounds like a real adventure!  I hope you didn't have trouble with gobbies.

But we had discussed Escape Route as our teamwork feat, I think we settled on it as being the most generally useful.  There were a couple others that we looked at too if we want to reconsider our options:

Lookout:
Whenever you are adjacent to an ally who also has this feat, you may act in the surprise round as long as your ally would normally be able to act in the surprise round. If you would normally be denied the ability to act in the surprise round, your initiative is equal to your initiative roll or the roll of your ally Ė1, whichever is lower. If both you and your ally would be able to act in the surprise round without the aid of this feat, you may take both a standard and a move action (or a full-round action) during the surprise round.

Let's more of us act in the surprise round.  If one of us isn't surprised, none of us are.

Outflank:
Whenever you and an ally who also has this feat are flanking the same creature, your flanking bonus on attack rolls increases to +4. In addition, whenever you score a critical hit against the flanked creature, it provokes an attack of opportunity from your ally.

This would mostly benefit Pisca and Kellan, when Pisca flanks for him Kellan gets +4 to hit instead of +2.  And the chance for free attacks!  The rest of teh party would probably select something else if Pisca and Kellan took this one.

Coordinated Defense:
Whenever you are adjacent to an ally who also has this feat, you receive a +2 competence bonus to your Combat Maneuver Defense. This bonus increases to +4 if the creature attempting the maneuver is larger than both you and your ally.

This is just pure defense for us, though I'll admit it probably helps me more than anyone else.

Escape Route:
An ally who also has this feat provokes no attacks of opportunity for moving through squares adjacent to you or within your space.

But this one is generally very useful.  Less AoOs for movement helps us re-position in combat.  I know it's come come up with me quite a lot!
Liseth Thoradin
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Mon 8 May 2017
at 00:41
Re: OOC Thread #10:  Commandments
Kellan Storval:
I'm thinking maybe "Felling Smash" for Kellans feat this level, it would give him one Power Attack with no penalty to hit (Thanks to Furious Focus) and a free trip attempt along with it every round.

Would be nice to not have to pick between the two.


That feat seems like it's right up Kellan's alley.  Then you could get Vital Strike too!  Since Felling Smash is a single attack, you could mix it with Vital Strike (which can only be used when making a single attack) so that your Felling Smash rolls double the damage dice on top of tripping.

That's why they call you Kellan "Ogre STOMP" Storval!
Liseth Thoradin
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Mon 8 May 2017
at 00:44
Re: OOC Thread #10:  Commandments
Oh, I also remember Racon saying something about re-specifying your character's ability choices this level too.  I remember that Pisca mentioned some concern that she had take a feat or two early in the game that aren't actually in line with how Pisca has turned out.

A chance to smooth out some design flaws is a good thing!
The Raconteur
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Mon 8 May 2017
at 03:10
Re: OOC Thread #10:  Commandments
Wow, have a busy weekend and come back to a lot of posting!  Awesome.  :)

Yes, this goes for anyone.  If anyone has a feat (or other spec) that you haven't really used to this point, I'm open to talking about re-speccing things to fit more closely with your character as they actually are.

So let me know.
Kellan Storval
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Mon 8 May 2017
at 16:10
Re: OOC Thread #10:  Commandments
Alright, Kellan is all updated.

I went with Felling Smash, but held off on including Escape Route until we get a final vote.

Looking forward to the next chapter!
Liseth Thoradin
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Mon 8 May 2017
at 23:06
Re: OOC Thread #10:  Commandments
Hmm, at level 6 I'm supposed to receive Neutralize Poison as my new mystery spell.  But Neutralize poison is listed as a level 4 Spell; I can't cast at level 4 for 2 more levels!

Does that mean I treat Neutralize Poison as a level 3 spell instead?
Pisca Neep Freemish
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Tue 9 May 2017
at 09:37
Re: OOC Thread #10:  Commandments
I'm in London at using the Heathrow wifi.  I'll finish leveling when I'm home proper.  I think I'm going to take advantage of that feat respecking.
Kellan Storval
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Tue 9 May 2017
at 17:01
Re: OOC Thread #10:  Commandments
Here's a question...

Kellan's campaign trait pretty much revolved around his horse, starting with it and having free stabling. Now that it is dead, does it just go inert? or do you think he could choose another?
The Raconteur
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Tue 9 May 2017
at 18:26
Re: OOC Thread #10:  Commandments
I'm of the opinion that he gets another.  Let's say that as a sergeant of the Sandpoint Guard he is entitled to a horse for his own personal use.
The Raconteur
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Tue 9 May 2017
at 18:33
Re: OOC Thread #10:  Commandments
Liseth Thoradin:
Hmm, at level 6 I'm supposed to receive Neutralize Poison as my new mystery spell.  But Neutralize poison is listed as a level 4 Spell; I can't cast at level 4 for 2 more levels!

Does that mean I treat Neutralize Poison as a level 3 spell instead?


I did some research and there's actually a thread about this on the Paizo boards:

http://paizo.com/threads/rzs2l...?Oracle-Life-Mystery

If you look at the first post it says "Staff Response:  no reply required."

Thanks for the help, Paizo.  :P  But what I'm guessing that means is that Life Oracles get neutralize poison as a third level spell, like Druids.  So it will count as a third-level spell for spells per day purposes and for DC purposes.
Liseth Thoradin
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Tue 9 May 2017
at 20:33
Re: OOC Thread #10:  Commandments
In reply to The Raconteur (msg # 54):

I'll take it!  Now I just need to pick out a spell for levels 2 and 3 and I'll be finished.

...any suggestions?

I was looking at Burst of Radiance, Sacred Space, Consecrate, Remove Paralysis, and Hold Person for level 2...I need to narrow things down more.

http://www.d20pfsrd.com/magic/.../b/burst-of-radiance

http://www.d20pfsrd.com/magic/...ells/s/sacred-space/

http://www.d20pfsrd.com/magic/all-spells/c/consecrate

http://www.d20pfsrd.com/magic/...s/r/remove-paralysis

http://www.d20pfsrd.com/magic/all-spells/h/hold-person
Kerr Mollin
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Tue 9 May 2017
at 20:50
Re: OOC Thread #10:  Commandments
You'll need consecrate if you want to do something permanent about Foxglove Manor, right?
Liseth Thoradin
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Tue 9 May 2017
at 23:12
Re: OOC Thread #10:  Commandments
That's what I was thinking too.  Consecrate would also help in any situation where we were fighting undead; -1 to attacks, damage, and saves as well as +3 to the DC of my channeling against them.

The drawback is that Consecrate is an expensive spell to cast.  The Material components amount to 50 gold; a vial of holy water and powdered silver.  I was thinking that I might be able to get by with purchasing a scroll or two of consecrate.

Sacred Space is almost the same effect as consecrate, but targets evil outsiders instead of undead and has no material cost.  That's why I was looking at it too.

But the more I look at level 2, the more I think Burst of Radiance is a good idea.  An area blind that also damages evil creatures.  We're always fighting evil creatures, and blinding a bunch of baddies can't hurt!
Cato Crispin
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Thu 11 May 2017
at 01:17
Re: OOC Thread #10:  Commandments
It feels like it's been a long time since we level.  How are we handling HP again?
The Raconteur
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Thu 11 May 2017
at 01:22
Re: OOC Thread #10:  Commandments
It HAS been a while!  You can choose to roll or you can take the average (rounded up), which would be 4 if you have a d6 HD, 5 for a d8, or 6 for a d10.

Has to be one or the other, though.  Once you roll that's your total!
Cato Crispin
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Thu 11 May 2017
at 01:28
Re: OOC Thread #10:  Commandments
Okay, I think I'm done with the level up.  I've assumed that we're going to take Escape Route, but I could change that.  I went with Hold Person and Communal Resist Energy for my spells.
The Raconteur
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Thu 11 May 2017
at 22:31
Re: OOC Thread #10:  Commandments
Where do you all want to go from here?
Liseth Thoradin
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Fri 12 May 2017
at 04:44
Re: OOC Thread #10:  Commandments
We should go to the Cathedral.  It wouldn't do to take these bodies all around Sandpoint with us!

Also...

My SECOND niece was born yesterday; her name is Madeline.

Now I'm wondering how I'm supposed to give toys and things to each individually without both laying a claim!
Kellan Storval
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Fri 12 May 2017
at 12:49
Re: OOC Thread #10:  Commandments
Congrats Liseth!

Sounds like a wonderful little family.

And the Cathedral works for me... The consecration issue is pretty pressing. Maybe Liseth could even learn the ritual in game for this purpose specifically?
Pisca Neep Freemish
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Fri 12 May 2017
at 16:19
Re: OOC Thread #10:  Commandments
Cathedral sounds good.  Though, I've been thinking that a visit to Jubrayl might be in order too.  I don't think there are many better sources for information on a shadowy organization out of Magnimar than Jubrayl.  Also, now that Pisca has shaken her illusions about her relationship with Jubrayl, I think now might be a perfect time to start afresh with a more business-like one.
Pisca Neep Freemish
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Fri 12 May 2017
at 17:30
Re: OOC Thread #10:  Commandments
I'm done leveling to six.

Question: How are we going to handle equipment and upgrades?  I know we haven't been keeping a very strict accounting.  But acquiring equipment, especially magical in nature is part of the game.  Kellan, specifically has mentioned upgrading.  How would you like to go about it?

Here's a suggestion that might be the least onerous.  The list below charts a suggested wealth by level.  Why not let us design our equipment based on the suggested amount?  I believe you let me do this with Pisca at Level 5.  So, in her case, I would simply add equipment equaling or less than the difference between Level 5 and Level 6, which is 5500GP.  All equipment is, of course, subject to your approval.

http://www.d20pfsrd.com/classes/character-advancement/
Cato Crispin
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Fri 12 May 2017
at 18:07
Re: OOC Thread #10:  Commandments
I am in complete agreement with visiting the Cathedral and then the mayor.  Cato also wants to visit Brodert, to pick his brain about anything he might have to add about liches and/or a secret cavern under the grounds at the Foxglove Estate.

Oh, a point about equipment: I am intending Cato to be able to help craft some magical items.  He has Craft Wondrous Item already, so we should be able to get those for half off, if we have time to spend on crafting.
The Raconteur
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Fri 12 May 2017
at 18:41
Re: OOC Thread #10:  Commandments
Pisca Neep Freemish:
I'm done leveling to six.

Question: How are we going to handle equipment and upgrades?  I know we haven't been keeping a very strict accounting.  But acquiring equipment, especially magical in nature is part of the game.  Kellan, specifically has mentioned upgrading.  How would you like to go about it?

Here's a suggestion that might be the least onerous.  The list below charts a suggested wealth by level.  Why not let us design our equipment based on the suggested amount?  I believe you let me do this with Pisca at Level 5.  So, in her case, I would simply add equipment equaling or less than the difference between Level 5 and Level 6, which is 5500GP.  All equipment is, of course, subject to your approval.

http://www.d20pfsrd.com/classes/character-advancement/


This sounds fine to me.  Total up the gp value of the equipment you have so far, then you can add equipment up to the wealth-by-level standard.

Give me a list of the equipment you're planning to purchase and I'll let you know if it's available in Sandpoint.  There will of course be a wider selection of items available in Magnimar, so if Sandpoint does not have an item you're looking for you can hold off and wait until then.
Liseth Thoradin
 Human Oracle, 2927 posts
 Deluge of Positive Energy
 HP 33/42
Mon 15 May 2017
at 21:12
Re: OOC Thread #10:  Commandments
After giving it some thought, I think I'm going to take the spells Burst of Radiance (Lvl 2) and Prayer (Lvl 3) for this level.  Does anybody have suggestions for something else?  I always try to be careful with spontaneous casters.
Pisca Neep Freemish
 Gnome Archaeologist, 3378 posts
 The Gnome!
 And Her Imagination
Mon 15 May 2017
at 21:16
Re: OOC Thread #10:  Commandments
Those look good.  Pisca went for Alter Self.  Then swapped out Disguise Self for Feather Fall.
Liseth Thoradin
 Human Oracle, 2928 posts
 Deluge of Positive Energy
 HP 33/42
Tue 16 May 2017
at 21:56
Re: OOC Thread #10:  Commandments


I saw this and thought of Pisca!
Pisca Neep Freemish
 Gnome Archaeologist, 3379 posts
 The Gnome!
 And Her Imagination
Tue 16 May 2017
at 22:06
Re: OOC Thread #10:  Commandments
Badgers ...  I wanna smash 'em.
Pisca Neep Freemish
 Gnome Archaeologist, 3381 posts
 The Gnome!
 And Her Imagination
Wed 17 May 2017
at 06:35
Re: OOC Thread #10:  Commandments
I'm going to experiment with UMD.  Gold at this level will be invested in Muleback Cords (having nothing to do with UMD), a wand of Mage Armor, and a Circlet of Persuasion.  With the Circlet, she should be pretty close to hitting the 20 for activating a wand every time.
Liseth Thoradin
 Human Oracle, 2929 posts
 Deluge of Positive Energy
 HP 33/42
Wed 17 May 2017
at 21:14
Re: OOC Thread #10:  Commandments
Muleback Cords?  I don't think we've ever paid much attention to carrying capacity.
Cato Crispin
 Human Wizard, 1461 posts
 Quarterstaff Expert
Thu 18 May 2017
at 01:01
Re: OOC Thread #10:  Commandments
What value should I attach to the wands we've found?  (Wand of Shocking Grasp and Wand of Gentle Repose)

*Edit*
I mean, I know what a wand costs, I just don't know how many charges they have left.  I think I've used a few from the Wand of Shocking Grasp vs that creepy 7-star carrying enemy.

This message was last edited by the player at 01:22, Thu 18 May 2017.

Pisca Neep Freemish
 Gnome Archaeologist, 3384 posts
 The Gnome!
 And Her Imagination
Thu 18 May 2017
at 08:29
Re: OOC Thread #10:  Commandments
In reply to Liseth Thoradin (msg # 73):

Not real strict attention.  But Pisca is going to start carrying more weapons, and I don't want to abuse the carry limits.
Liseth Thoradin
 Human Oracle, 2932 posts
 Deluge of Positive Energy
 HP 33/42
Thu 18 May 2017
at 08:52
Re: OOC Thread #10:  Commandments
Pisca Neep Freemish, One-Gnome Arsenal.
Pisca Neep Freemish
 Gnome Archaeologist, 3385 posts
 The Gnome!
 And Her Imagination
Thu 18 May 2017
at 10:25
Re: OOC Thread #10:  Commandments
I want one of those boxing glove arrows.
The Raconteur
 GM, 2922 posts
 Teller of Tales
 Writer of Wrongs
Thu 18 May 2017
at 14:18
Re: OOC Thread #10:  Commandments
Cato Crispin:
What value should I attach to the wands we've found?  (Wand of Shocking Grasp and Wand of Gentle Repose)

*Edit*
I mean, I know what a wand costs, I just don't know how many charges they have left.  I think I've used a few from the Wand of Shocking Grasp vs that creepy 7-star carrying enemy.


About half-value for both.
Liseth Thoradin
 Human Oracle, 2934 posts
 Deluge of Positive Energy
 HP 33/42
Thu 18 May 2017
at 21:25
Re: OOC Thread #10:  Commandments
Pisca Neep Freemish:
I want one of those boxing glove arrows.


Because sometimes you just need to punch somebody who's really far away.
Pisca Neep Freemish
 Gnome Archaeologist, 3387 posts
 The Gnome!
 And Her Imagination
Thu 18 May 2017
at 21:40
Re: OOC Thread #10:  Commandments
Liseth Thoradin:
Pisca Neep Freemish:
I want one of those boxing glove arrows.


Because sometimes you just need to punch somebody who's really far away.


The Raconteur
 GM, 2923 posts
 Teller of Tales
 Writer of Wrongs
Mon 22 May 2017
at 15:07
Re: OOC Thread #10:  Commandments
Anyone have anything else to say in the meeting, or shall I wrap it up?
Pisca Neep Freemish
 Gnome Archaeologist, 3388 posts
 The Gnome!
 And Her Imagination
Mon 22 May 2017
at 16:12
Re: OOC Thread #10:  Commandments
Not me.
Pisca Neep Freemish
 Gnome Archaeologist, 3389 posts
 The Gnome!
 And Her Imagination
Mon 22 May 2017
at 16:30
Re: OOC Thread #10:  Commandments
That said, however, I would like to pay a visit to Jubrayl for possible information on the Brotherhood of the Seven as well as a possible contact in Magnimar.  Would you like to handle that in this thread?  A separate thread?  A PM?
Kellan Storval
 Human Fighter, 1388 posts
 Miniboss
Mon 22 May 2017
at 16:46
Re: OOC Thread #10:  Commandments
This could be one of those time when we split up to say our goodbyes and make our preparations. Kind of a way to wrap up the chapter. It is a lot of work on poor Racon however.
The Raconteur
 GM, 2924 posts
 Teller of Tales
 Writer of Wrongs
Mon 22 May 2017
at 16:54
Re: OOC Thread #10:  Commandments
I can do a separate thread for Pisca after the meeting concludes.  Are the rest of you planning to stay together, or do we need more than one separate thread?
Pisca Neep Freemish
 Gnome Archaeologist, 3390 posts
 The Gnome!
 And Her Imagination
Mon 22 May 2017
at 17:01
Re: OOC Thread #10:  Commandments
Might be a good idea to stop in on Vorvashali Voon as well.  Get a reference for a shop where we can buy magic items in Magnimar.
Kellan Storval
 Human Fighter, 1389 posts
 Miniboss
Mon 22 May 2017
at 18:21
Re: OOC Thread #10:  Commandments
I can go either way, trying to see where Kellan and Shayliss end up after what happened, or perhaps saying goodbye to his family.

Or if we are looking to take advantage of our momentum we can start moving things along towards Magnimar.
Pisca Neep Freemish
 Gnome Archaeologist, 3391 posts
 The Gnome!
 And Her Imagination
Mon 22 May 2017
at 18:49
Re: OOC Thread #10:  Commandments
In reply to Kellan Storval (msg # 87):

I'm interested to see how Kellan and Shayliss end up too.
The Raconteur
 GM, 2925 posts
 Teller of Tales
 Writer of Wrongs
Tue 23 May 2017
at 15:36
Re: OOC Thread #10:  Commandments
Okay, what I'm going to do is wrap up the meeting, then take you down to the lobby.  From there you can post regarding where your characters are heading, and I'll create subthreads for each group or individual.
The Raconteur
 GM, 2929 posts
 Teller of Tales
 Writer of Wrongs
Fri 26 May 2017
at 05:28
Re: OOC Thread #10:  Commandments
Cato, you can join one of the other threads or just continue on in the main thread.
Pisca Neep Freemish
 Gnome Archaeologist, 3393 posts
 The Gnome!
 And Her Imagination
Fri 26 May 2017
at 12:57
Re: OOC Thread #10:  Commandments
Not Pisca's thread, please.
The Raconteur
 GM, 2933 posts
 Teller of Tales
 Writer of Wrongs
Sun 28 May 2017
at 20:58
Re: OOC Thread #10:  Commandments
I like Jubrayl Vhiski as a character.  :)
Cato Crispin
 Human Wizard, 1465 posts
 Quarterstaff Expert
Fri 2 Jun 2017
at 15:20
Re: OOC Thread #10:  Commandments
I'll be heading out of town from June 4-June 11.  I'll have very limited internet access, so I probably won't be able to make any updates.
The Raconteur
 GM, 2935 posts
 Teller of Tales
 Writer of Wrongs
Tue 6 Jun 2017
at 02:13
Re: OOC Thread #10:  Commandments
Sorry, guys, my wife's dad had a medical emergency and things around here have been crazy, as you might imagine.  Back on my horse tomorrow, I think.
Pisca Neep Freemish
 Gnome Archaeologist, 3400 posts
 The Gnome!
 And Her Imagination
Tue 6 Jun 2017
at 02:46
Re: OOC Thread #10:  Commandments
Looking forward to it.
Kellan Storval
 Human Fighter, 1395 posts
 Miniboss
Tue 6 Jun 2017
at 04:08
Re: OOC Thread #10:  Commandments
No worries Racon, take all the time you need.
Pisca Neep Freemish
 Gnome Archaeologist, 3402 posts
 The Gnome!
 And Her Imagination
Fri 9 Jun 2017
at 13:18
Re: OOC Thread #10:  Commandments
Kellan Storval:
Even as he said it it sounded bad, and it dredged up uncomfortable memories. What was someone supposed to say in situations like that? Some prefered it straight, Vinn might in fact...but Shayliss...what could he do to soften the blow?

Bring flowers.  And food.  In case humans don't eat flowers.
Kellan Storval
 Human Fighter, 1397 posts
 Miniboss
Thu 15 Jun 2017
at 02:10
Re: OOC Thread #10:  Commandments
Hmmm, I hope Racon is doing alright.
Pisca Neep Freemish
 Gnome Archaeologist, 3403 posts
 The Gnome!
 And Her Imagination
Fri 16 Jun 2017
at 13:03
Re: OOC Thread #10:  Commandments
+1.  We've all been busy at one time or another.  But always, at least, checked in.  I don't show him logging in since Jun 7.
The Raconteur
 GM, 2939 posts
 Teller of Tales
 Writer of Wrongs
Tue 20 Jun 2017
at 18:11
Re: OOC Thread #10:  Commandments
Hi guys,

I sincerely apologize for my absence.  I've had a bit of a family emergency the past couple of weeks.  Thankfully it is now (I believe) in the past and I will be able to move forward with the game.  Again, I am very sorry for holding up the game.  :(  Will be posting today.  Thanks for your patience!

-Todd
Pisca Neep Freemish
 Gnome Archaeologist, 3404 posts
 The Gnome!
 And Her Imagination
Tue 20 Jun 2017
at 18:14
Re: OOC Thread #10:  Commandments
Not a problem with me.  We all have lives.  Good to see you back.
Cato Crispin
 Human Wizard, 1467 posts
 Quarterstaff Expert
Tue 20 Jun 2017
at 18:15
Re: OOC Thread #10:  Commandments
In reply to The Raconteur (msg # 100):

Glad to see you back!  Hope everyone is your family is doing okay.
Kellan Storval
 Human Fighter, 1398 posts
 Miniboss
Tue 20 Jun 2017
at 18:19
Re: OOC Thread #10:  Commandments
Great to see you back Racon. No worries at all, just hope that your family is alright.
The Raconteur
 GM, 2940 posts
 Teller of Tales
 Writer of Wrongs
Tue 20 Jun 2017
at 18:25
Re: OOC Thread #10:  Commandments
I appreciate that, my friends.  :)  Yes, I think everyone is going to be okay, thankfully.  :) :)
The Raconteur
 GM, 2941 posts
 Teller of Tales
 Writer of Wrongs
Fri 30 Jun 2017
at 17:24
Re: OOC Thread #10:  Commandments
Okay, well obviously my plans to get things restarted haven't moved forward that well.  I am going on vacation starting today so my current plan is to get things going again once I get back from vacation next weekend.  Again, I apologize for my absence and thank you all so much for your patience!
Pisca Neep Freemish
 Gnome Archaeologist, 3405 posts
 The Gnome!
 And Her Imagination
Fri 30 Jun 2017
at 17:31
Re: OOC Thread #10:  Commandments
Pisca will be here when you get back.
Cato Crispin
 Human Wizard, 1468 posts
 Quarterstaff Expert
Fri 30 Jun 2017
at 18:41
Re: OOC Thread #10:  Commandments
In reply to Pisca Neep Freemish (msg # 106):

And my quarterstaff!  (Doesn't sound quite as cool coming from a wizard.)
Kellan Storval
 Human Fighter, 1399 posts
 Miniboss
Sun 9 Jul 2017
at 20:28
Re: OOC Thread #10:  Commandments
Just checking in. Everybody still around?
Pisca Neep Freemish
 Gnome Archaeologist, 3406 posts
 The Gnome!
 And Her Imagination
Sun 9 Jul 2017
at 22:26
Re: OOC Thread #10:  Commandments
Yup.  Racon should be back from vacation by now.  Maybe we'll start up Monday.
Kellan Storval
 Human Fighter, 1400 posts
 Miniboss
Sat 15 Jul 2017
at 06:02
Re: OOC Thread #10:  Commandments
Well, Liseth has not logged in within the last month, and Racon is going on two weeks.

Do we want to talk about what happens if everything is still silent come August?
Cato Crispin
 Human Wizard, 1469 posts
 Quarterstaff Expert
Sat 15 Jul 2017
at 12:46
Re: OOC Thread #10:  Commandments
In reply to Kellan Storval (msg # 110):

I hope that doesn't happen. This has been by far my favorite game on RPoL, equally because of you all and Racon.
Pisca Neep Freemish
 Gnome Archaeologist, 3407 posts
 The Gnome!
 And Her Imagination
Sat 15 Jul 2017
at 14:13
Re: OOC Thread #10:  Commandments
I'm not sure that there's much we can do about it.

quote:
The GM has marked this game as containing personal and intellectual property.
If the GM leaves or deletes the game nobody else will be able to continue the game.

Cato Crispin
 Human Wizard, 1470 posts
 Quarterstaff Expert
Wed 19 Jul 2017
at 17:15
Re: OOC Thread #10:  Commandments
In reply to Pisca Neep Freemish (msg # 112):

I just remembered I have our DM's phone number from when he visited DC a few years ago.  I sent him a text to see if all is well.
Pisca Neep Freemish
 Gnome Archaeologist, 3408 posts
 The Gnome!
 And Her Imagination
Wed 19 Jul 2017
at 17:17
Re: OOC Thread #10:  Commandments
Cool.  Thanks.
Cato Crispin
 Human Wizard, 1471 posts
 Quarterstaff Expert
Thu 20 Jul 2017
at 17:45
Re: OOC Thread #10:  Commandments
Racon said he should be checking in today.  Apparently it's been a crazy summer for him.
Kellan Storval
 Human Fighter, 1401 posts
 Miniboss
Thu 20 Jul 2017
at 17:46
Re: OOC Thread #10:  Commandments
Thanks for that Cato
Pisca Neep Freemish
 Gnome Archaeologist, 3409 posts
 The Gnome!
 And Her Imagination
Thu 20 Jul 2017
at 17:49
Re: OOC Thread #10:  Commandments
^_^

!!!

Yeah!
Liseth Thoradin
 Human Oracle, 2937 posts
 Deluge of Positive Energy
 HP 33/42
Mon 24 Jul 2017
at 23:10
Re: OOC Thread #10:  Commandments
Sorry I vanished for the last month plus...

I've been in a stress-panic since June; I'm moving to a new city to attend the University of Oregon.  Between finding a place to live and fretting over whether I've been accepted by the university in the first place, I pretty well shut down socially.

Too much stress and I become a buttoned-up introvert.

But everything is finally settled; I can register for classes starting August 7th, and I can move in to my new place starting August 11th.  I'm glad I managed to beat the Eclipse Rush; finding a place was next to impossible.

Sorry again everyone; I hope I didn't hold the game up too much.
Pisca Neep Freemish
 Gnome Archaeologist, 3410 posts
 The Gnome!
 And Her Imagination
Mon 24 Jul 2017
at 23:56
Re: OOC Thread #10:  Commandments
Double yeah!

Can't say you didn't have me worried there.  Congratulations on entering the U of O.
The Raconteur
 GM, 2942 posts
 Teller of Tales
 Writer of Wrongs
Tue 25 Jul 2017
at 05:53
Re: OOC Thread #10:  Commandments
Congrats Liseth!

No, you haven't been holding up the game.  I'VE been holding up the game.

Yes, a crazy summer.  Health issues in the family.  A trial.  Co-workers getting sick, forcing me to pick up cases that I have zero familiarity with.

So here's my plan.  I'm going to Alaska starting July 31st.  I'll be back on the 11th.  So why don't we extend our hiatus until the 13th.  My kids will be starting school again as well, so I'll have a lot more uninterrupted time during the day to get posts up.

Again, I can't apologize enough for this summer.  Hopefully we can hit the ground running in mid-August.  Thanks for staying tuned in!  :)
Pisca Neep Freemish
 Gnome Archaeologist, 3411 posts
 The Gnome!
 And Her Imagination
Tue 25 Jul 2017
at 12:57
Re: OOC Thread #10:  Commandments
That sounds great to me.  It'll be great to be able to pick up from where we left off.  That's ... kind of rare.
Kellan Storval
 Human Fighter, 1402 posts
 Miniboss
Tue 25 Jul 2017
at 16:04
Re: OOC Thread #10:  Commandments
Very rare, but this is a rare collection of players I think.

Congrats Liseth! I'll look forward to hearing all about your experience at University.

And don't worry Racon, you can make it up to us with some top notch storytelling here in a few weeks. Have a great time in Alaska, it should be a lot cooler at least, and we will see you when you get back.
Pisca Neep Freemish
 Gnome Archaeologist, 3412 posts
 The Gnome!
 And Her Imagination
Tue 25 Jul 2017
at 16:09
Re: OOC Thread #10:  Commandments
Oh, and say, if you happen to find a Vorpal Sword +5 up, say, near Sitka, please bring it home for Pisca.  I hear that the airlines are very understanding about allowing those sorts of things as carry-on if you say that you're bring it home for a gnome.
The Raconteur
 GM, 2943 posts
 Teller of Tales
 Writer of Wrongs
Tue 25 Jul 2017
at 23:29
Re: OOC Thread #10:  Commandments
Pisca Neep Freemish:
That sounds great to me.  It'll be great to be able to pick up from where we left off.  That's ... kind of rare.


I'm hoping we'll all be raring to go after a summer off.  :)
Liseth Thoradin
 Human Oracle, 2938 posts
 Deluge of Positive Energy
 HP 33/42
Wed 26 Jul 2017
at 23:24
Re: OOC Thread #10:  Commandments
I feel a little guilty about being relieved I wasn't holding the game up.  Thank you for being concerned about me Pisca; I'm sorry I made you guys worry.

I think the 11th is a good time to start up again.  I might be a little busy since that's my move-in date though; but I'll be more available than I would be in the week prior!  The plan is to go to LA and visit the Natural History Museum.  I haven't been there in a decade; I can't wait!

Although Racon going to Alaska makes me think I should have picked a cooler place to visit.  Have fun!
Pisca Neep Freemish
 Gnome Archaeologist, 3413 posts
 The Gnome!
 And Her Imagination
Mon 14 Aug 2017
at 15:49
Re: OOC Thread #10:  Commandments
Welcome back everyone!  ^_^
Kellan Storval
 Human Fighter, 1403 posts
 Miniboss
Mon 14 Aug 2017
at 16:05
Re: OOC Thread #10:  Commandments
I'll second that! Way to come back with a vengeance Racon.
The Raconteur
 GM, 2944 posts
 Teller of Tales
 Writer of Wrongs
Mon 14 Aug 2017
at 16:23
Re: OOC Thread #10:  Commandments
Thanks Kellan!  And Pisca!  Hoping to get us revved back up for the fall.  :)
The Raconteur
 GM, 2946 posts
 Teller of Tales
 Writer of Wrongs
Thu 17 Aug 2017
at 17:53
Re: OOC Thread #10:  Commandments
So I'm thinking that everyone's ending up back at the Rusty Dragon.  I'm going to post a response to Kellan from Ameiko now.  Let me know when you're done for today and I'll kick off the next day heading to Magnimar.

As far as the next day goes, do you want to start out in Sandpoint the next day or would you rather just have me write something that gets you to the gates of Magnimar?
Kellan Storval
 Human Fighter, 1405 posts
 Miniboss
Thu 17 Aug 2017
at 18:32
Re: OOC Thread #10:  Commandments
I think a new chapter at the gates of Magninar would be great way to move things forward.
Cato Crispin
 Human Wizard, 1473 posts
 Quarterstaff Expert
Thu 17 Aug 2017
at 18:49
Re: OOC Thread #10:  Commandments
In reply to The Raconteur (msg # 129):

Yeah, I'm fine fast-forwarding to Magnimar as well.  I've basically finished everything Cato wanted do to in Sandpoint.
Pisca Neep Freemish
 Gnome Archaeologist, 3416 posts
 The Gnome!
 And Her Imagination
Fri 18 Aug 2017
at 13:47
Re: OOC Thread #10:  Commandments
Sounds good to the gnome too!

BTW, don't forget that we have some outfitting to do once we get there.
The Raconteur
 GM, 2947 posts
 Teller of Tales
 Writer of Wrongs
Sat 19 Aug 2017
at 02:51
Re: OOC Thread #10:  Commandments
It's agreed then.  We'll kick off in Magnimar on Monday.
The Raconteur
 GM, 2949 posts
 Teller of Tales
 Writer of Wrongs
Tue 22 Aug 2017
at 05:06
Re: OOC Thread #10:  Commandments
Here we go!

MAGNIMAR.

Big city, boys and girls.  Buckle your seatbelts!  You ain't out in the hustings any more.  :)
Kellan Storval
 Human Fighter, 1406 posts
 Miniboss
Tue 22 Aug 2017
at 15:42
Re: OOC Thread #10:  Commandments
Yes!
Cato Crispin
 Human Wizard, 1474 posts
 Quarterstaff Expert
Wed 23 Aug 2017
at 15:44
Re: OOC Thread #10:  Commandments
Is there a reason Heidmarch Manor sounds familiar?  Have we encountered that name before in this game, or am I remembering it from something else?
Pisca Neep Freemish
 Gnome Archaeologist, 3417 posts
 The Gnome!
 And Her Imagination
Wed 23 Aug 2017
at 15:48
Re: OOC Thread #10:  Commandments
Must be somewhere else.  Doesn't ring a bell for me at all.
Kellan Storval
 Human Fighter, 1407 posts
 Miniboss
Wed 23 Aug 2017
at 15:49
Re: OOC Thread #10:  Commandments
Not for me either. On a road trip,but should be able to post this evening.
The Raconteur
 GM, 2950 posts
 Teller of Tales
 Writer of Wrongs
Wed 23 Aug 2017
at 16:53
Re: OOC Thread #10:  Commandments
I can tell you that no one has ever previously mentioned the Heidmarches to the party.
The Raconteur
 GM, 2951 posts
 Teller of Tales
 Writer of Wrongs
Wed 23 Aug 2017
at 16:54
Re: OOC Thread #10:  Commandments
Liseth seems busy at college and hasn't checked in for a bit so until she gets settled in and back into a routine I'm planning to NPC her for a while.  So once Kellan and Pisca post I'll update.
Cato Crispin
 Human Wizard, 1476 posts
 Quarterstaff Expert
Thu 24 Aug 2017
at 12:27
Re: OOC Thread #10:  Commandments
The Raconteur:
I can tell you that no one has ever previously mentioned the Heidmarches to the party.

I think I might be remembering it from Shattered Star.  I played in one game here that folded relatively soon, but I think the first encounter takes place in Heidmarch Manor.
Pisca Neep Freemish
 Gnome Archaeologist, 3424 posts
 The Gnome!
 And Her Imagination
Wed 13 Sep 2017
at 11:25
Re: OOC Thread #10:  Commandments
Beautiful description of the bazaar.  Very nice.

I take it that this ...
The Raconteur:
ďYes, that Arwick Tosscobble.Ē  He looked up to see if any of the party took notice of his name.  Disappointed at the lack of reaction, he continued.

... is the result of multiple failed knowledge checks among us?  If not, mayI have just such a knowledge check whereby I might discover what it is that he's talking about?

Hmmm.  In fact, Taking 10 using the bard's Lore Master ability nets me a Knowledge Local of 20.  Can we go with that?  Knowledge History Taking 10 and using Archaeologist's Luck gives me 21, if that doesn't work.
The Raconteur
 GM, 2955 posts
 Teller of Tales
 Writer of Wrongs
Wed 13 Sep 2017
at 17:37
Re: OOC Thread #10:  Commandments
Thank you, Pisca!

And no, you can't remember hearing anything about an Arwick Tosscobble.
Cato Crispin
 Human Wizard, 1480 posts
 Quarterstaff Expert
Sat 16 Sep 2017
at 00:56
Re: OOC Thread #10:  Commandments
Sorry for that extremely delayed response.  Still getting used to the kids being back in school, plus one started a new school, plus I'm teaching a class one night a week.  Where does the time go?
The Raconteur
 GM, 2956 posts
 Teller of Tales
 Writer of Wrongs
Sat 16 Sep 2017
at 03:12
Re: OOC Thread #10:  Commandments
Glad to have you back, Cato!!
Hand of Fate
 GM, 35 posts
Tue 19 Sep 2017
at 19:04
Re: OOC Thread #10:  Commandments
Arwick Tosscobble...  Y'all are in deep, deep trouble.
The Raconteur
 GM, 2958 posts
 Teller of Tales
 Writer of Wrongs
Thu 21 Sep 2017
at 17:28
Re: OOC Thread #10:  Commandments
So, do you guys want to roleplay the conversation at Hungry Wolf Sundries or just work out what you're looking for here and see what's available, then have a post recapping things?
Pisca Neep Freemish
 Gnome Archaeologist, 3428 posts
 The Gnome!
 And Her Imagination
Thu 21 Sep 2017
at 17:46
Re: OOC Thread #10:  Commandments
Just work out what you're looking for here and see what's available, might be best.  Generally, I'm all for roleplay.  But, given the current pace, I'm not sure that would be constructive.
The Raconteur
 GM, 2959 posts
 Teller of Tales
 Writer of Wrongs
Thu 21 Sep 2017
at 17:48
Re: OOC Thread #10:  Commandments
I had the same thought!  Great minds.  :)  Okay, what are you looking for?
Pisca Neep Freemish
 Gnome Archaeologist, 3429 posts
 The Gnome!
 And Her Imagination
Thu 21 Sep 2017
at 18:02
Re: OOC Thread #10:  Commandments
We had a conversation quite a few month's ago.  I'm not sure where it is now.  I had a list of items and the only one you said that Pisca couldn't find in Sandpoint was a Circlet of Persuasion.
Hand of Fate
 GM, 36 posts
Thu 21 Sep 2017
at 18:05
Re: OOC Thread #10:  Commandments
I... want... to... sing and dance. I want to sing and dance. I want to be a pirate in the Pirates of Penzance... *cough* *cough*  Excuse me.
Cato Crispin
 Human Wizard, 1481 posts
 Quarterstaff Expert
Thu 21 Sep 2017
at 19:28
Re: OOC Thread #10:  Commandments
Yeah, I'm for doing the shopping OOC as well.  Cato would be interested in two things:
1) Lesser Rod of Extend Metamagic
2) Scroll of Cat's Grace

Also, how much magical item creation did Cato have time to do on the voyage here?  Was he able to identify the chimes and mask we found under Foxglove Manor?
The Raconteur
 GM, 2960 posts
 Teller of Tales
 Writer of Wrongs
Thu 21 Sep 2017
at 19:45
Re: OOC Thread #10:  Commandments
Cato identified the chimes as Chimes of Opening.

He was unable to identify the mask.  You can tell that it has a faint aura of necromacy, and Kerr has informed you that it is definitely evil.
The Raconteur
 GM, 2961 posts
 Teller of Tales
 Writer of Wrongs
Fri 22 Sep 2017
at 02:54
Re: OOC Thread #10:  Commandments
Kellan?  Are you looking for anything?
Pisca Neep Freemish
 Gnome Archaeologist, 3430 posts
 The Gnome!
 And Her Imagination
Fri 22 Sep 2017
at 07:11
Re: OOC Thread #10:  Commandments
Here's the post.  This thread.

Pisca Neep Freemish msg 72:
I'm going to experiment with UMD.  Gold at this level will be invested in Muleback Cords (having nothing to do with UMD), a wand of Mage Armor, and a Circlet of Persuasion.  With the Circlet, she should be pretty close to hitting the 20 for activating a wand every time.


So ...

Muleback Cords
Wand of Mage Armor
Circlet of Persuasion

And, maybe, with the addition of Muleback Cords, a longspear.
Liseth Thoradin
 Human Oracle, 2939 posts
 Deluge of Positive Energy
 HP 33/42
Fri 29 Sep 2017
at 06:56
Re: OOC Thread #10:  Commandments
I am so sorry that I was away for so long.  All Summer, really...

The last few months have been an event, let me tell you.  Moving to a new city, starting at the University.  I had to pack up my house and put everything in storage; then move everything into an UPSTAIRS apartment.  I'm still trying to get everything organized; I might just be forced to keep some boxes of things in a few closets.

Also, a desk fell on me during the move.  That was less than fun.

Anyway, everything has settled down into a routine, finally.  Classes are going well but I am having to get used to being surrounded by teenagers.  Thousands of them.  It really feels weird, like being the adult taking classes in high school.  It's kind of sad to see all these kids treat it like high school minus their parents too.  But I guess I'm a little lucky that most people think me a lot younger than I actually am.  At least I look like I belong.

So, I have some reading to do in order to catch up.  I am so sorry...again...about being gone for so long.  I will try to update between classes tomorrow, during the weekend at the latest.

Sorry...
Pisca Neep Freemish
 Gnome Archaeologist, 3431 posts
 The Gnome!
 And Her Imagination
Fri 29 Sep 2017
at 08:46
Re: OOC Thread #10:  Commandments
It's just good to hear from you Liseth.  ^_^  Sounds like you have quite the adventure going for you right there.
Hand of Fate
 GM, 37 posts
Fri 29 Sep 2017
at 12:09
Back to School
Going to school when I bit older than everyone else is an adventure, Liseth. Enjoy it. Last time my wife was in school we were old enough to BE the parents. It made for an interesting dynamic.  Have fun!
The Raconteur
 GM, 2962 posts
 Teller of Tales
 Writer of Wrongs
Tue 3 Oct 2017
at 00:13
Back to School
LISETH!!!!   Good to have you back!
Liseth Thoradin
 Human Oracle, 2941 posts
 Deluge of Positive Energy
 HP 33/42
Tue 3 Oct 2017
at 05:58
Back to School
Thanks everyone.  I need to get back into my stride with Runelords.  I'm looking back through my files and I don't think I ever even entered my information for level 6...we did get to level 6, didn't we?

And there's the conversation about magical items.  Did we have gold to buy things individually?  I'm not sure what I would want...maybe a lighter (mithril) shield to complement my armor...or a headband of Charisma just to boost all my abilities.
Pisca Neep Freemish
 Gnome Archaeologist, 3433 posts
 The Gnome!
 And Her Imagination
Tue 3 Oct 2017
at 10:41
Back to School
Yes.  We're Level 6.  And we have the standard wealth of an L6 character.  So, figure what you've got already and that's what you have for purchasing power.

Is that right, Racon?
Pisca Neep Freemish
 Gnome Archaeologist, 3435 posts
 The Gnome!
 And Her Imagination
Tue 3 Oct 2017
at 13:45
Back to School
And ... well, maybe we won't just move on from the Store scene.
Pisca Neep Freemish
 Gnome Archaeologist, 3436 posts
 The Gnome!
 And Her Imagination
Tue 3 Oct 2017
at 14:02
Back to School
If there's no Circlet of Persuassion, might there be ...

Ring of Protection +1
Claws of the Ice Bear
Gloves of Reconnaissance
Amulet of Natural Armor
Liseth Thoradin
 Human Oracle, 2942 posts
 Deluge of Positive Energy
 HP 33/42
Mon 9 Oct 2017
at 18:12
Back to School
Oof, I spent 14 hours over the last three days doing physics problems for homework.  Some of them I had to beat over the head with math until the numbers worked.  Checking answers and calculations.

Then I come to class with the completed homework and not only is everyone talking about the assignment, but they all have the wrong answers!  They're trying to convince me that they have it right, when I had already discounted their solution as impossible by checking my own work.  And since no one else arrived at the answer I had after hours of number crunching and assessment, THEY think I'M wrong.

Lousy teenagers, there's no way to convince them that arriving at a quick, simple solution in physics is so often wrong.

I'm going to post later tonight, sorry for the delay!
Pisca Neep Freemish
 Gnome Archaeologist, 3437 posts
 The Gnome!
 And Her Imagination
Mon 9 Oct 2017
at 18:20
Back to School
Sounds like good training for your first colloquium, Professor Thoradin.  ^_^
Liseth Thoradin
 Human Oracle, 2944 posts
 Deluge of Positive Energy
 HP 33/42
Wed 11 Oct 2017
at 02:00
Back to School
Ugh!  I got home from classes today and find my dog missing.  My roommate left the front door open after taking a walk, and my dog decided to follow without them ever noticing.  They didn't know he was gone until I got home and asked where my dog was!

This whole mess cost me 3 hours, a trip to the animal shelter, $100 paid with my student loans, and my faith in my roommate's competence.  Now how am I supposed to go to class in the morning when I'm worried they'll let the dog out again?

This message was last edited by the player at 02:01, Wed 11 Oct 2017.

Cato Crispin
 Human Wizard, 1482 posts
 Quarterstaff Expert
Wed 11 Oct 2017
at 14:04
Back to School
You definitely shouldn't dress your dog in clothes and bring it to class, pretending it's your very hairy younger sibling.
Pisca Neep Freemish
 Gnome Archaeologist, 3439 posts
 The Gnome!
 And Her Imagination
Wed 11 Oct 2017
at 14:14
Back to School
Or you should have your dog train your roommates better.  ^_^
Hand of Fate
 GM, 38 posts
Wed 11 Oct 2017
at 18:22
Back to School
Training collars all around!  Next time they leave the door open just click the button ZAP!  Bet they learn that way.
Pisca Neep Freemish
 Gnome Archaeologist, 3440 posts
 The Gnome!
 And Her Imagination
Wed 11 Oct 2017
at 18:29
Back to School
That's so inhuman!

hehehe ...
Hand of Fate
 GM, 39 posts
Wed 11 Oct 2017
at 19:03
Back to School
I'm a flying Pikathulhu. What did you expect?
Hand of Fate
 GM, 40 posts
Wed 1 Nov 2017
at 14:40
Back to School
Where did everybody go?
Cato Crispin
 Human Wizard, 1484 posts
 Quarterstaff Expert
Wed 1 Nov 2017
at 15:05
Back to School
I'm here!  Been a busy couple weeks for me.  I just got a new job!
Pisca Neep Freemish
 Gnome Archaeologist, 3441 posts
 The Gnome!
 And Her Imagination
Wed 1 Nov 2017
at 15:32
Back to School
Congratulations.  No longer working for the government?
Cato Crispin
 Human Wizard, 1485 posts
 Quarterstaff Expert
Wed 1 Nov 2017
at 16:52
Back to School
In reply to Pisca Neep Freemish (msg # 174):

Well, I still am right now.  But as of November 20, I'll be working for a energy-oriented think tank.
Pisca Neep Freemish
 Gnome Archaeologist, 3442 posts
 The Gnome!
 And Her Imagination
Wed 1 Nov 2017
at 17:40
Back to School
So ... does that get you an interview on NPR?
Cato Crispin
 Human Wizard, 1486 posts
 Quarterstaff Expert
Wed 1 Nov 2017
at 18:30
Back to School
In reply to Pisca Neep Freemish (msg # 176):

Ha.  Well, I certainly have a greater chance of that happening than at my current job.
Hand of Fate
 GM, 41 posts
Wed 1 Nov 2017
at 18:31
Back to School
Do you actually have a tank that you think in?  I've never really understood that.
Pisca Neep Freemish
 Gnome Archaeologist, 3443 posts
 The Gnome!
 And Her Imagination
Wed 1 Nov 2017
at 18:34
Back to School

Cato Crispin
 Human Wizard, 1487 posts
 Quarterstaff Expert
Wed 1 Nov 2017
at 18:38
Back to School
In all honesty, I'm not even sure where I'm going to think.  The office I'm starting at is at max capacity, and they're looking to expand, but they haven't yet.  Hopefully it means I get to telework a lot.
Pisca Neep Freemish
 Gnome Archaeologist, 3444 posts
 The Gnome!
 And Her Imagination
Wed 1 Nov 2017
at 18:48
Back to School
In reply to Cato Crispin (msg # 180):

telework a lot =  talking to people on the phone with no pants on.
Cato Crispin
 Human Wizard, 1488 posts
 Quarterstaff Expert
Sat 18 Nov 2017
at 21:09
Back to School
In reply to Pisca Neep Freemish (msg # 181):

I will certainly admit to doing that.  Sometimes its very relaxing to work without pants.
Cato Crispin
 Human Wizard, 1489 posts
 Quarterstaff Expert
Sat 18 Nov 2017
at 21:10
Back to School
Pisca, was your last comment directed to Liseth or Arwick?  Are we waiting on Racon to respond, or for the rest of the PCs to post?  Any idea what happened to Kellan and Liseth?  They haven't logged on in some time.
Pisca Neep Freemish
 Gnome Archaeologist, 3445 posts
 The Gnome!
 And Her Imagination
Sat 18 Nov 2017
at 22:09
Back to School
In reply to Cato Crispin (msg # 183):

The first half is to Liseth.  The second half is to Arwick.

And I think we're waiting for anyone to respond.  Anyone other than the two of us.  Looks like Real Life swallowed them up.
Kellan Storval
 Human Fighter, 1413 posts
 Miniboss
Sun 19 Nov 2017
at 00:02
Back to School
Yeah, for a time, kind of chewed me up a little and spat me back out.

When Racon and Liseth went dark I admit that I kind of kept our game in the periphery. But I'm here, for what it's worth.
Pisca Neep Freemish
 Gnome Archaeologist, 3446 posts
 The Gnome!
 And Her Imagination
Sun 19 Nov 2017
at 00:22
Back to School
That's good to hear.

Lets see if Liseth and Racon chime in.
Hand of Fate
 GM, 42 posts
Mon 20 Nov 2017
at 13:36
Back to School
Shall I zap Racon with a cattle prod?
Pisca Neep Freemish
 Gnome Archaeologist, 3447 posts
 The Gnome!
 And Her Imagination
Mon 20 Nov 2017
at 13:54
Back to School
In reply to Hand of Fate (msg # 187):

Could you, please?  Just a small jolt.
Hand of Fate
 GM, 43 posts
Mon 20 Nov 2017
at 13:58
Back to School
Yay!  I love zapping people with cattle prods.
Liseth Thoradin
 Human Oracle, 2945 posts
 Deluge of Positive Energy
 HP 33/42
Wed 22 Nov 2017
at 08:51
Back to School
Im here too, sorry.  Turns out, learning Calculus is a much bigger distraction than anything else I've ever learned.  I can't wait until I'm done with it after Winter.

Also, I didn't realize I was set to reply; was expecting a Racon post myself.  I'll have to look back over the last several posts.
Pisca Neep Freemish
 Gnome Archaeologist, 3448 posts
 The Gnome!
 And Her Imagination
Wed 22 Nov 2017
at 12:15
Back to School
Calculus, ugh.  Second quarter Calc is where I got off that train.  Didn't help that the class was taught by a French TA whose accent I couldn't understand.

Good to see you here, Liseth.  ^_^
Hand of Fate
 GM, 44 posts
Wed 22 Nov 2017
at 12:56
Back to School
Calculus I, Calculus II, Multi-Variable Calculus, Differential Equations!

All my favorite classes!

** Please, note the sarcasm in that last statement.

:-)
Cato Crispin
 Human Wizard, 1490 posts
 Quarterstaff Expert
Wed 22 Nov 2017
at 19:46
Back to School
Oh, I had a DIffEq taught be a foreign TA with an absolutely incomprehensible accent.  And I've gotten pretty good at deciphering accents.  (I don't think you can make it through grad school unless you can!)
Cato Crispin
 Human Wizard, 1491 posts
 Quarterstaff Expert
Wed 22 Nov 2017
at 19:47
Back to School
Oh, I also wanted to chime in and apologize for being quiet as of late.  The think tank blocks RPOL!  I'm used to updating games during my lunch hour, but I guess that can't happen anymore.  :-(
Pisca Neep Freemish
 Gnome Archaeologist, 3449 posts
 The Gnome!
 And Her Imagination
Wed 22 Nov 2017
at 19:53
Back to School
In reply to Cato Crispin (msg # 194):

OMG!  I didn't think you worked for Communists!!!

or was that fascists?
Cato Crispin
 Human Wizard, 1492 posts
 Quarterstaff Expert
Sat 25 Nov 2017
at 01:57
Back to School
In reply to Pisca Neep Freemish (msg # 195):

Maybe I can get better at updates on my phone.  I just find that to be pretty annoying.
Cato Crispin
 Human Wizard, 1493 posts
 Quarterstaff Expert
Thu 4 Jan 2018
at 20:15
Back to School
So much sadness.  No updates to my latest game in some time.  Is there any hope of this getting going again?  I was excited to see what was going down with Foxglove in Magnimar.
Pisca Neep Freemish
 Gnome Archaeologist, 3450 posts
 The Gnome!
 And Her Imagination
Thu 4 Jan 2018
at 20:29
Back to School
Sorry to say.  I think he's dead, Jim.
Cato Crispin
 Human Wizard, 1494 posts
 Quarterstaff Expert
Thu 4 Jan 2018
at 20:42
Back to School
In reply to Pisca Neep Freemish (msg # 198):

Yeah, that was my feeling too.  Still, hope springs eternal.
Kellan Storval
 Human Fighter, 1414 posts
 Miniboss
Thu 4 Jan 2018
at 21:59
Back to School
We've got most of us here at least
Pisca Neep Freemish
 Gnome Archaeologist, 3451 posts
 The Gnome!
 And Her Imagination
Thu 4 Jan 2018
at 22:01
Back to School
On the game page:

quote:
The GM has marked this game as containing personal and intellectual property.
If the GM leaves or deletes the game nobody else will be able to continue the game.

Hand of Fate
 GM, 45 posts
Thu 4 Jan 2018
at 22:21
Back to School
I know he isn't dead. He chastised me on Facebook today.
Liseth Thoradin
 Human Oracle, 2946 posts
 Deluge of Positive Energy
 HP 33/42
Fri 5 Jan 2018
at 12:56
Back to School
That's one comfort at least.
Pisca Neep Freemish
 Gnome Archaeologist, 3452 posts
 The Gnome!
 And Her Imagination
Fri 5 Jan 2018
at 13:48
Back to School
Okay, well maybe he's not dead, Jim.
Cato Crispin
 Human Wizard, 1495 posts
 Quarterstaff Expert
Fri 5 Jan 2018
at 15:22
Back to School
Damnit, I'm a wizard, not a doctor!
Kellan Storval
 Human Fighter, 1415 posts
 Miniboss
Fri 5 Jan 2018
at 16:13
Back to School
Come on Racon!
Pisca Neep Freemish
 Gnome Archaeologist, 3453 posts
 The Gnome!
 And Her Imagination
Tue 16 Jan 2018
at 11:23
Back to School
Happy birthday, Racon.
Kellan Storval
 Human Fighter, 1416 posts
 Miniboss
Tue 16 Jan 2018
at 11:31
Back to School
Happy Birthday! Wherever you are ;)
The Raconteur
 GM, 2964 posts
 Teller of Tales
 Writer of Wrongs
Mon 2 Apr 2018
at 19:42
Possible Restart
Hello all,

Well, I apologize for my disappearance!  But here I am.  I am willing to get this game restarted again, but if we do that I think we all need to re-commit to the game, meaning everyone posts every day during the week for at least the first few weeks to get things rolling.  That's what kind of disheartened me about the game previously . . . it seemed (to me, at least) that the commitment to the game was waning.

So I'm willing to get back into the saddle if everyone else is willing to do so.  I'm thinking about a restart date of April 16th or 23rd, whatever works best for everyone's schedules.

If you guys are over the game I completely understand.  But if you want to get it back into gear and are committed to doing that I'm on board as well.  :)  Let me know.

-Racon
Pisca Neep Freemish
 Gnome Archaeologist, 3454 posts
 The Gnome!
 And Her Imagination
Mon 2 Apr 2018
at 20:13
Possible Restart
I'm still here.  Was just thinking about this game today by coincidence.  And daily posting is my thing.
Kellan Storval
 Human Fighter, 1417 posts
 Miniboss
Mon 2 Apr 2018
at 20:20
Possible Restart
I'm still here and up for the challenge. Would love to see this game moving again.
The Raconteur
 GM, 2965 posts
 Teller of Tales
 Writer of Wrongs
Mon 2 Apr 2018
at 20:32
Re: Possible Restart
Pisca Neep Freemish:
I'm still here.  Was just thinking about this game today by coincidence.  And daily posting is my thing.

I agree that is your thing, Pisca!  :)
Liseth Thoradin
 Human Oracle, 2947 posts
 Deluge of Positive Energy
 HP 33/42
Mon 2 Apr 2018
at 21:12
Re: Possible Restart
It's not that I've ever lost any sort commitment to the game; far from it.  I just...button up when my depression gets too deep.  It's been pretty bad for most of the last year but I feel like I'm on the tail end of a long spell.  I've been seeing a new (much better) counselor since I began taking classes at the U of O.

Suffice it to say, this is the best game and group I've ever been involved with.  Of course I want to get everything rolling along again.
Pisca Neep Freemish
 Gnome Archaeologist, 3455 posts
 The Gnome!
 And Her Imagination
Mon 2 Apr 2018
at 21:19
Re: Possible Restart
<BreathBated>Yeah!  Three out of four ... </BreathBated>
Cato Crispin
 Human Wizard, 1496 posts
 Quarterstaff Expert
Tue 3 Apr 2018
at 01:04
Re: Possible Restart
What?!  Huzzah!  Hope beyond hope, we're all here?
Kellan Storval
 Human Fighter, 1418 posts
 Miniboss
Tue 3 Apr 2018
at 01:06
Re: Possible Restart
Hah ha! Good to hear from you Cato, and you too Pisca, Liseth. I can't wait to hear how you have all been, and to see Racon at his finest once again.
Cato Crispin
 Human Wizard, 1497 posts
 Quarterstaff Expert
Tue 3 Apr 2018
at 01:10
Re: Possible Restart
Oh, and as for your original question...

I'm completely in favor of restarting the game.  I will try and do my best to make daily posts, however, I've since changed jobs, and my new employers blocks RPOL from work (along with a bevy of other web sites).  95% of nights or so, I have no problem making a post from home, but sometimes I just have too much going on.
The Raconteur
 GM, 2966 posts
 Teller of Tales
 Writer of Wrongs
Tue 3 Apr 2018
at 02:27
Re: Possible Restart
Awesome, good to see you, Cato!

What week is best for everyone to restart?  9th?  16th?  23rd?
Cato Crispin
 Human Wizard, 1498 posts
 Quarterstaff Expert
Tue 3 Apr 2018
at 02:40
Re: Possible Restart
In reply to The Raconteur (msg # 218):

Iím all in favor of sooner being better, whenever everyone is ready. The 9th is s little busier than usual, but I can do it.
Pisca Neep Freemish
 Gnome Archaeologist, 3456 posts
 The Gnome!
 And Her Imagination
Tue 3 Apr 2018
at 04:55
Re: Possible Restart
I open another play this Friday.  But for me, all the hard work is already done.

To tell you the truth, no day is any better or worse for me.  I'm good with anything.
The Raconteur
 GM, 2967 posts
 Teller of Tales
 Writer of Wrongs
Tue 3 Apr 2018
at 05:17
Re: Possible Restart
Okay, we'll start back up on the 9th if that works with Liseth's schedule.
Liseth Thoradin
 Human Oracle, 2948 posts
 Deluge of Positive Energy
 HP 33/42
Tue 3 Apr 2018
at 06:28
Re: Possible Restart
I've actually signed up for a camping trip with my geology class on the 14th and 15th.  Saturday and Sunday.  I don't think I would have Internet service out in the Oregon Fossil Beds.

I wouldn't be able to do anything on those two days, but if that's okay I'm happy to begin on the 9th.
Kellan Storval
 Human Fighter, 1419 posts
 Miniboss
Tue 3 Apr 2018
at 09:32
Re: Possible Restart
Sounds good to me, the 9th it is.
Pisca Neep Freemish
 Gnome Archaeologist, 3457 posts
 The Gnome!
 And Her Imagination
Tue 3 Apr 2018
at 11:16
Re: Possible Restart
Anything you'd like us to do in preparation?
Hand of Fate
 GM, 46 posts
Tue 3 Apr 2018
at 13:03
Re: Possible Restart
Peeps is back!  Woot! Woot!
The Raconteur
 GM, 2968 posts
 Teller of Tales
 Writer of Wrongs
Tue 3 Apr 2018
at 16:28
Re: Possible Restart
Pisca Neep Freemish:
Anything you'd like us to do in preparation?


I think re-reading the most-recent parts of the story--at least back to where the party landed in Magnimar--would probably be good.  Other than that just maybe do some finger exercises.  ;)
Hand of Fate
 GM, 47 posts
Wed 4 Apr 2018
at 14:35
Re: Possible Restart

Kellan Storval
 Human Fighter, 1420 posts
 Miniboss
Wed 4 Apr 2018
at 15:24
Re: Possible Restart
Exciting stuff!
Liseth Thoradin
 Human Oracle, 2949 posts
 Deluge of Positive Energy
 HP 33/42
Wed 4 Apr 2018
at 18:48
Re: Possible Restart
So I've been giving this some thought.  I think what we need is a way to keep everything fresh; fresh and new is exciting, once it becomes routine is when posting rates decline.

What I want to propose is that we alternate campaigns on occasion.  Don't run two games concurrently; that's a big hassle.  But have another game with different characters that we switch between.

For example, say we play Runelords for a few months and finish the chapter that we're on in the adventure path.  Then instead of jumping straight into the next chapter, we take a break from Runelords and play in a different campaign with different characters.  Maybe even have another one of us GM if we're all up for it; to give Racon a break.

We do that campaign for a while, then switch back to Runelords.  That way we can keep things interesting and hopefully combat the laxness that comes with everything being too routine.

What do you all think?
Pisca Neep Freemish
 Gnome Archaeologist, 3458 posts
 The Gnome!
 And Her Imagination
Wed 4 Apr 2018
at 19:05
Re: Possible Restart
Sounds worth a try.  Darklands?
Hand of Fate
 GM, 48 posts
Wed 4 Apr 2018
at 21:54
Re: Possible Restart
Hmmmmmm... That's not a terrible idea.
Kellan Storval
 Human Fighter, 1421 posts
 Miniboss
Wed 4 Apr 2018
at 23:01
Re: Possible Restart
I could see it, it would give Racon a break to recharge but also keep him playing with us, which would be nice.
The Raconteur
 GM, 2969 posts
 Teller of Tales
 Writer of Wrongs
Thu 5 Apr 2018
at 01:47
Re: Possible Restart
I was thinking about this a bit.  How much should I skip over things like your visit to the Sword & Anvil and Hungry Wolf Sundries and just give you a narrative that skips ahead to the action?  Not sure how interested you guys are in that kind of stuff.
Kellan Storval
 Human Fighter, 1422 posts
 Miniboss
Thu 5 Apr 2018
at 01:52
Re: Possible Restart
A solid jump back into the meat of the story would probably be a good call I think. To start building that momentum again, and then we can always come back to the more low key RP after we are back on track.

I can go either way of course.

This message was last edited by the player at 01:52, Thu 05 Apr 2018.

Cato Crispin
 Human Wizard, 1499 posts
 Quarterstaff Expert
Thu 5 Apr 2018
at 20:44
Re: Possible Restart
In reply to The Raconteur (msg # 233):

I'm all for skipping over the shopping trick and jumping straight into the action.

I also think giving Racon a break DM'ing is a pretty good idea.
Pisca Neep Freemish
 Gnome Archaeologist, 3459 posts
 The Gnome!
 And Her Imagination
Thu 5 Apr 2018
at 22:48
Re: Possible Restart
I too wouldn't mind skipping the RP of the shopping.  If we do, however, how do you want to handle the acquisition of new equipment?
The Raconteur
 GM, 2970 posts
 Teller of Tales
 Writer of Wrongs
Fri 6 Apr 2018
at 03:04
Re: Possible Restart
I'll just write in that you arranged to purchase your authorized equipment from Arwick.
The Raconteur
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Fri 6 Apr 2018
at 21:35
Re: Possible Restart
Have I already made rulings on the availability of everyone's desired equipment purchases?
Pisca Neep Freemish
 Gnome Archaeologist, 3460 posts
 The Gnome!
 And Her Imagination
Fri 6 Apr 2018
at 21:39
Re: Possible Restart
That might be a good place to start.  Instead of combing through the threads for this, why don't we submit equipment additions again and have you rule on them now as well?
The Raconteur
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Fri 6 Apr 2018
at 22:48
Re: Possible Restart
Well, I'll just go back and figure out what I already said anyway, lol, but sure.  But if there is something you don't recall me ruling on then let me know here and I'll work it into my get-back-into-it post on Monday.
Liseth Thoradin
 Human Oracle, 2950 posts
 Deluge of Positive Energy
 HP 42/42
Sat 7 Apr 2018
at 03:04
Re: Possible Restart
In reply to Pisca Neep Freemish (msg # 230):

That option is definitely on the table.  I think I'll go do some spring cleaning in there just in case.

Racon:
Have I already made rulings on the availability of everyone's desired equipment purchases?


I don't recall; but I think I wanted a Mithril Heavy Shield (+1 if available) and/or a Headband of Charisma.  I tried searching for where I mentioned this but can't find it.
Pisca Neep Freemish
 Gnome Archaeologist, 3461 posts
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Sat 7 Apr 2018
at 14:49
Re: Possible Restart
I've found this:
The Raconteur: Book 2, Chapter #4:  Magnimar Msg 32:
The halfling had similar news for Pisca; he actually had Muleback Cords on hand, and he could find her a Wand of Mage Armor inside of a week.  But the Circlet of Persuasion, he informed her sadly, was (to his knowledge) not available in the city.  At least at this time.  But he promised her to keep an eye out for one.


Muleback Chords for certain.
No Circlet of Persuassion for certain.
Wand of Mage Armor maybe?

Since the Circlet of Persuasion is a no go, could you rule on these items, please.

Boots of Striding and Springing: http://www.d20pfsrd.com/magic-...riding-and-springing
Slippers of Spider Climbing: http://www.d20pfsrd.com/magic-...s-of-spider-climbing

If you rule that both are alright, I will, of course, only be choosing one of them.
Kellan Storval
 Human Fighter, 1423 posts
 Miniboss
Mon 9 Apr 2018
at 10:11
Re: Possible Restart
Looking forward to the restart!

Good luck guys.
The Raconteur
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Mon 9 Apr 2018
at 15:14
Re: Possible Restart
Just boarded a plane, so should have a post up in the next few hours.
Pisca Neep Freemish
 Gnome Archaeologist, 3462 posts
 The Gnome!
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Mon 9 Apr 2018
at 15:24
Re: Possible Restart
The Raconteur:
Just boarded a plane, so should have a post up in the next few hours.

So many songs come to mind.
Hand of Fate
 GM, 49 posts
Mon 9 Apr 2018
at 16:58
Re: Possible Restart
I'm leaving on a jet plane....
The Raconteur
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Mon 9 Apr 2018
at 18:33
Re: Possible Restart
Liseth and Pisca,

The Boots, Slippers, Circlet, and Shield are all available in Magnimar.  What kind of funds do you have?  You may need to decide what you wish to purchase.

Does anyone else have a magic item availability question?

-Racon
Pisca Neep Freemish
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Mon 9 Apr 2018
at 19:01
Re: Possible Restart
The Raconteur:
Liseth and Pisca,

The Boots, Slippers, Circlet, and Shield are all available in Magnimar.  What kind of funds do you have?  You may need to decide what you wish to purchase.

Does anyone else have a magic item availability question?

-Racon

Wait, do you mean that the Circlet of Persuasion is available after all?  Or are you referring to Liseth's Headband of Charisma?
The Raconteur
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Mon 9 Apr 2018
at 19:34
Re: Possible Restart
Yes, headband, sorry.  Circlet still not available.
Pisca Neep Freemish
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Mon 9 Apr 2018
at 20:18
Re: Possible Restart
Thanks.  That's what I thought.  Otherwise I would most definitely have a decision to make.
Kellan Storval
 Human Fighter, 1424 posts
 Miniboss
Mon 9 Apr 2018
at 21:00
Re: Possible Restart
I'm terrible with these sorts of things, but I suppose I should "update" Kellan...
The Raconteur
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Tue 10 Apr 2018
at 03:26
Re: Possible Restart
Still working on my post.  It will be up this evening!  Did not get to work on it on the plane, which foiled my initial plan, but Plan B is well underway.
Liseth Thoradin
 Human Oracle, 2951 posts
 Deluge of Positive Energy
 HP 42/42
Tue 10 Apr 2018
at 04:01
Re: Possible Restart
Racon:
What kind of funds do you have?  You may need to decide what you wish to purchase.


I seem to recall that the way we were handling funds was to simply put our wealth at the expected 16,000 for PCs at our level once we made it to 6.  As a way to get around the hassle of tallying up the treasure from Foxglove's Manor.  Then calculate the value of the magic items we already had and use the difference to purchase new ones.

Did I have this correct as anyone else recollects?  Or am I sailing on a different ship entirely?
Pisca Neep Freemish
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Tue 10 Apr 2018
at 10:53
Re: Possible Restart
In reply to Liseth Thoradin (msg # 253):

That's what I recall too, Liseth.
The Raconteur
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Tue 10 Apr 2018
at 13:55
Re: Possible Restart
That is correct.
Liseth Thoradin
 Human Oracle, 2953 posts
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Tue 10 Apr 2018
at 17:22
Re: Possible Restart
Pisca:
without their purse or their keys or some other such vital object of daily use.


That line reminded me; we recovered some keys from Foxglove after we defeated him. Seems like there's a good chance we already have the key to this house.
Pisca Neep Freemish
 Gnome Archaeologist, 3467 posts
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Tue 10 Apr 2018
at 17:25
Re: Possible Restart
In reply to Liseth Thoradin (msg # 256):

But where's the fun in that? (Says the resident Lockpick Girl.)

This message was last edited by the player at 17:25, Tue 10 Apr 2018.

Liseth Thoradin
 Human Oracle, 2954 posts
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Tue 10 Apr 2018
at 17:27
Re: Possible Restart
And now that I've tallied up my owned items, it looks like I couldn't afford the Headband of Charisma anyway.  It would put me to just over 17,000.  So I'll be taking the +1 Mithral Shield instead.
Liseth Thoradin
 Human Oracle, 2955 posts
 Deluge of Positive Energy
 HP 42/42
Tue 10 Apr 2018
at 17:28
Re: Possible Restart
In reply to Pisca Neep Freemish (msg # 257):

At least it makes us look slightly less like burglars.
Pisca Neep Freemish
 Gnome Archaeologist, 3468 posts
 The Gnome!
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Tue 10 Apr 2018
at 17:48
Re: Possible Restart
In reply to Liseth Thoradin (msg # 259):

We're not burglars unless we take something.  Until then, we're just trespassers.  ^_^
The Raconteur
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Wed 11 Apr 2018
at 02:38
Re: Possible Restart
Do you guys have any thoughts on the best way to have the combat characters (Kellan and Kerr) upgrade their weapons and armor?  Just have Arwick deliver it to the Sword and Anvil?  I was thinking about having Kerr have his ancestral bow and breastplate enchanted, and I'm sure Kellan would like to have the same sort of thing.  But I don't want to have the party just have to sit around and wait for the enchantment process either.
Liseth Thoradin
 Human Oracle, 2956 posts
 Deluge of Positive Energy
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Wed 11 Apr 2018
at 03:29
Re: Possible Restart
Could go with the idea that the weapons have gained an inclination towards magic after their recent use.  I mean, Kellan has used his polaxe to slay demons and monsters with special damage reduction; killing inherently magical beings with a mundane weapon is bound to alter the weapon, right?  And Kerr is constantly channeling divine power through his bow when he uses it to Smite.

It's nothing found in the rules as written, so far as I know.  But I've always liked the idea of a weapon gaining power as it is used to perform great deeds.  The weapon gains it's own history and legend; and legendary weapons are usually powerful, right?

Instead of having them go through the lengthy enchantment process to make them stronger, these inclinations gained through extraordinary use are recognized by an enchanter.  This allows them to construct the magic already present into a usable form much more quickly than starting the enchantment process from scratch.

It's a method I've used before to circumvent players immediately discarding a family heirloom weapon in favor of the first +1 sword they come across.  Basically an excuse to speed up the enchantment process in certain situations.
The Raconteur
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Wed 11 Apr 2018
at 03:35
Re: Possible Restart
Liseth, that is a super awesome idea!  And gives some roleplaying opportunities as well.  Just really good.
Liseth Thoradin
 Human Oracle, 2958 posts
 Deluge of Positive Energy
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Wed 11 Apr 2018
at 03:58
Re: Possible Restart
You're Welcome!
Pisca Neep Freemish
 Gnome Archaeologist, 3469 posts
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 And Her Imagination
Wed 11 Apr 2018
at 07:32
Re: Possible Restart
That is a great idea!
Pisca Neep Freemish
 Gnome Archaeologist, 3470 posts
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Wed 11 Apr 2018
at 13:32
Re: Possible Restart
Well, looks as though the Circlet of Persuasion is much less expensive than I thought it was.  That means the cash that would have gone towards it will not cover either the Boots or the Slippers.

Oh well, we'll just forge on with what we have.
The Raconteur
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Wed 11 Apr 2018
at 19:36
Re: Possible Restart
Anyone have thoughts on what 1st-level Paladin spells Kerr should take?  He gets two and already has Divine Favor from his one level of Cleric.
Cato Crispin
 Human Wizard, 1501 posts
 Quarterstaff Expert
Wed 11 Apr 2018
at 20:27
Re: Possible Restart
In reply to The Raconteur (msg # 263):

I wanted to third Liseth's suggestion.  I think it really applies to Cato's bonded object as well.  It's certainly something he wouldn't want to discard, but at some point it should become a magic ring.  And becoming magic through the sheer amount of magic he has channeled through it is evocative and interesting in and of itself.
Liseth Thoradin
 Human Oracle, 2959 posts
 Deluge of Positive Energy
 HP 42/42
Wed 11 Apr 2018
at 21:44
Re: Possible Restart
Wow, I didn't think everyone would jump on board with that proposition so readily!  Also, I always thought Cato's bonded object was his quarterstaff.  I didn't even know he had a ring.

He is the resident quarterstaff expert after all!
Pisca Neep Freemish
 Gnome Archaeologist, 3472 posts
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Wed 11 Apr 2018
at 21:53
Re: Possible Restart
In reply to Liseth Thoradin (msg # 269):

It's innovative.  It's easy.  It alleviates a lot of the nonsense of swapping out what is supposed to be favorite armor or finding an enchanter when time comes to upgrade.

What's not to like?

Really, reducing mechanics so we can concentrate on roleplaying sounds better to me.

This message was last edited by the player at 21:55, Wed 11 Apr 2018.

Cato Crispin
 Human Wizard, 1503 posts
 Quarterstaff Expert
Wed 11 Apr 2018
at 22:17
Re: Possible Restart
In reply to Liseth Thoradin (msg # 269):

Yeah, I guess a quarterstaff is an option.  It just seems like, aside from the enchantment angle, it's a rose option to have a quarterstaff.  Though I can see the roleplaying makes some sense.  I'm trying to remember if I've described Cato as channeling power through his ring when he uses his arcane bond powers.  Maybe I need to do that in the future to drive the point home!
The Raconteur
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Fri 13 Apr 2018
at 19:58
Re: Possible Restart
I thought you guys would be a little more excited to see your old friend Aldern again!  ;)
Pisca Neep Freemish
 Gnome Archaeologist, 3475 posts
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Fri 13 Apr 2018
at 20:23
Re: Possible Restart
Excited to kill him again.

Seriously, if you want reasons why I don't think this is the Aldern that we knew I can give them.
Kellan Storval
 Human Fighter, 1428 posts
 Miniboss
Fri 13 Apr 2018
at 21:23
Re: Possible Restart
I would be interested, if only for the refresher.
Pisca Neep Freemish
 Gnome Archaeologist, 3476 posts
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Fri 13 Apr 2018
at 21:47
Re: Possible Restart
Consider the level of generosity that Aldern displayed before.  This was someone who really wanted to be well thought of.  Someone like that would never propose splitting two meals seven ways with guests.  That's absurd even with a normal host, let alone someone like Aldern.  Not when the alternative of inviting us out to an inn or other venue in Magnimar exists.

Even if we did not know this about about Aldern and Iesha, that alone would have given this away.

Book 2, Chapter #2:  To the Manor Borne Msg 558:
"They abducted my Iesha.  Told me the only way I'd ever see her again is if I did their bidding.  They made me eat some of that," he pointed to the fungus on the wall, "and my transformation began.  Soon after they took me upstairs to see her."  His voice was ragged.  "Or what she had become."

"I am sorry for what I did."  This to Liseth.  "You reminded me so much of her, and I had already learned of her abduction.  He is fixated on you.  I don't know why.  I believe this is yours."  He pointed to a white, horse-shaped figurine on his desk.  "I don't know why he does anything he does."

Liseth Thoradin
 Human Oracle, 2961 posts
 Deluge of Positive Energy
 HP 42/42
Sat 14 Apr 2018
at 02:56
Re: Possible Restart
I didn't detect any sort of undead.  So either there's illusion magic at play or someone masquerading as Aldern Foxglove.  Also, we should smell cooking before we've ever entered the house; unless it was part of a glamour.
Cato Crispin
 Human Wizard, 1506 posts
 Quarterstaff Expert
Sat 14 Apr 2018
at 03:06
Re: Possible Restart
It seems out of character that they wouldnít have someone cooking.
Liseth Thoradin
 Human Oracle, 2962 posts
 Deluge of Positive Energy
 HP 42/42
Sat 14 Apr 2018
at 07:31
Re: Possible Restart
Sorry I haven't posted yet.  I've been fretting over packing my things for camping with my Geology Class this weekend.  I'm at the delightful place where I hope I have everything and I think it all weighs too much.

Posting now.
Cato Crispin
 Human Wizard, 1507 posts
 Quarterstaff Expert
Sat 14 Apr 2018
at 20:04
Re: Possible Restart
Did we ever track down anything about the Mysterious Stranger we encountered at the bottom of the goblin base with the number 7 on his card?
Pisca Neep Freemish
 Gnome Archaeologist, 3477 posts
 The Gnome!
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Sat 14 Apr 2018
at 23:04
Re: Possible Restart
Not that I remember.
Cato Crispin
 Human Wizard, 1508 posts
 Quarterstaff Expert
Sun 15 Apr 2018
at 00:30
Re: Possible Restart
In reply to Pisca Neep Freemish (msg # 280):

Okay, I had remembered looking into it, but that was awhile ago.  One of those things that was a little blurry getting back up to speed.
Kellan Storval
 Human Fighter, 1431 posts
 Miniboss
Sun 15 Apr 2018
at 00:37
Re: Possible Restart
I ha been coming considering what sort of "energies" Kellans items may have been picking up. Does a Guardian weapon and a Spell Resistant Chain Hauberk sound reasonable?
The Raconteur
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Sun 15 Apr 2018
at 01:10
Re: Possible Restart
+1 Spell Resistance (13) Chain hauberk would cost 9,000 + cost of a masterwork chain hauberk.

+1 Guardian weapon would cost 8,000 gp + the cost of a masterwork weapon.

Either one sounds good for Kellan (he's certainly been targeted by enough spells), but combined that's a little above your current limit (16k gp).  Plus you'll need to factor in the items you already have.
The Raconteur
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Sun 15 Apr 2018
at 01:26
Re: Possible Restart
I've been considering allowing characters to have backup magic weapons that cost 1/2 of normal.  So for Kellan that would be a ranged weapon, for Kerr it would be a melee weapon, etc.  Pisca could probably choose.

The backup weapon couldn't cost any more than the gold you have already spent on your main weapon.  This lets combat characters have a little flexibility without necessarily costing them an arm and a leg.  And I'm not certain it would necessarily be worth it to get more than a token magic weapon for a backup in any event.

What do you all think about that idea?
Pisca Neep Freemish
 Gnome Archaeologist, 3479 posts
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Sun 15 Apr 2018
at 13:11
Re: Possible Restart
Pisca has several ways of channeling magic through a mundane weapon now.  That's the reason she does not possess even one magic weapon to begin with.  Her weapons are currently only Masterwork at best.  Arcane Strike, which requires a Swift Action.  (http://www.d20pfsrd.com/feats/...rcane-strike-combat/)  And Archaeologist's Luck. (http://www.d20pfsrd.com/classe...types/archaeologist/)

For Pisca any magic weapon would be ... somewhat superfluous.  Not entirely.  There's advantage to having a reliable, always-on magic weapon.  But that's the reason that Pisca does not currently even have magic on a primary weapon, let alone a backup.

Strikes me that the situations are somewhat similar in the case of both Cato and Liseth.  The magic weapon is just not that important.
Liseth Thoradin
 Human Oracle, 2964 posts
 Deluge of Positive Energy
 HP 42/42
Mon 16 Apr 2018
at 05:33
Re: Possible Restart
I'm back!  Awesome trip; my professor is crazy and eccentric and Australian.  We found ammonites and permineralized wood and leaf imprints and fish scales.  Also it snowed on our campsite.

So many misadventures too, but it's so much to try and share here; I don't want to blow up the OOC.

Kellan:
Does a...Spell Resistant Chain Hauberk sound reasonable?


Wouldn't that force me to make a caster level check just to cast a cure Spell on Kellan?  I actually don't have a lot of experience using Spell Resistance.

Racon:
I've been considering allowing characters to have backup magic weapons that cost 1/2 of normal.  So for Kellan that would be a ranged weapon, for Kerr it would be a melee weapon, etc.  Pisca could probably choose.


I'm not even sure what I would do with a backup melee weapon.  With Strength 7 I'm already at -2 to hit and damage.  Something like a Light Mace might be the most appropriate melee weapon for Liseth, but a +1 Light Mace would only amount to +3 to hit for d6-1 damage.  I suppose it could be useful with features like Merciful or Holy, but that's beyond the set price limitation.

This message was last edited by the player at 05:35, Mon 16 Apr 2018.

The Raconteur
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Mon 16 Apr 2018
at 06:08
Re: Possible Restart
Those Ammonites were a long way from home!

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ammon
Pisca Neep Freemish
 Gnome Archaeologist, 3480 posts
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Mon 16 Apr 2018
at 11:45
Re: Possible Restart
LOL!  Sounds like a great trip, Liseth.
Pisca Neep Freemish
 Gnome Archaeologist, 3482 posts
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Tue 17 Apr 2018
at 13:16
Re: Possible Restart
Kellan Storval:
...and no harms been done as of yet.

Not until now.
The Raconteur
 GM, 2988 posts
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Tue 17 Apr 2018
at 16:06
Re: Possible Restart
I'm going to need initiative rolls from everyone.
Pisca Neep Freemish
 Gnome Archaeologist, 3483 posts
 The Gnome!
 And Her Imagination
Tue 17 Apr 2018
at 17:35
Re: Possible Restart
Pisca Neep Freemish rolled 23.  Initiative.
Kellan Storval
 Human Fighter, 1433 posts
 Miniboss
Tue 17 Apr 2018
at 18:18
Re: Possible Restart
11:18, Today: Kellan Storval rolled 10 using 1d20+2.  Initiative.
Liseth Thoradin
 Human Oracle, 2966 posts
 Deluge of Positive Energy
 HP 42/42
Tue 17 Apr 2018
at 21:17
Re: Possible Restart
This feels unlikely to end well...

14:16, Today: Liseth Thoradin rolled 13 using 1d20+1.  Initiative.
Cato Crispin
 Human Wizard, 1510 posts
 Quarterstaff Expert
Wed 18 Apr 2018
at 00:12
Re: Possible Restart
Yeah, in hindsight, making threatening actions with the door open maybe not the best idea.  Unless this "guardsman" is part of the same troupe acting out the farce in front of us.

20:08, Today: Cato Crispin rolled 19 using 1d20+6.  Initiative.
The Raconteur
 GM, 2990 posts
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Wed 18 Apr 2018
at 01:58
Re: Possible Restart
Cato, your haste spell takes effect after the Foxgloves' actions.

This message was last edited by the GM at 01:58, Wed 18 Apr 2018.

Pisca Neep Freemish
 Gnome Archaeologist, 3484 posts
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Wed 18 Apr 2018
at 07:40
Re: Possible Restart
I show Pisca having 38 Hit Points.  If she's taken 38 Hit Points that would put her at Zero, wouldn't it?  And at Zero, isn't she Disabled? https://www.d20pfsrd.com/gamem...isabled-0-Hit-Points-

quote:
Disabled (0 Hit Points)
When your current hit point total drops to exactly 0, you are disabled.

You gain the staggered condition and can only take a single move or standard action each turn (but not both, nor can you take full-round actions). You can take move actions without further injuring yourself, but if you perform any standard action (or any other strenuous action) you take 1 point of damage after completing the act. Unless your activity increased your hit points, you are now at Ė1 hit points and dying.

Healing that raises your hit points above 0 makes you fully functional again, just as if youíd never been reduced to 0 or fewer hit points.

You can also become disabled when recovering from dying. In this case, itís a step toward recovery, and you can have fewer than 0 hit points (see Stable Characters and Recovery).


That is, as opposed to into Negative Hit Points and Dying.

quote:
Dying (Negative Hit Points)
If your hit point total is negative, but not equal to or greater than your Constitution score, youíre dying.

A dying character immediately falls unconscious and can take no actions.

A dying character loses 1 hit point every round. This continues until the character dies or becomes stable.


Or have I figured something incorrectly here?
Liseth Thoradin
 Human Oracle, 2967 posts
 Deluge of Positive Energy
 HP 42/42
Wed 18 Apr 2018
at 07:58
Re: Possible Restart
Disabled is such an uncommon condition; it's easily overlooked.

Also, I thought Pisca had 42 HP?  Didn't she have the same as Liseth?
Pisca Neep Freemish
 Gnome Archaeologist, 3485 posts
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Wed 18 Apr 2018
at 11:48
Re: Possible Restart
Must have diverged at some point.  CS says 38.
Hand of Fate
 GM, 50 posts
Wed 18 Apr 2018
at 12:30
Re: Possible Restart
TPK!  TPK!

Oh... wait.

Go team Pisca!
The Raconteur
 GM, 2991 posts
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Wed 18 Apr 2018
at 16:58
Re: Possible Restart
Well, it looks as if I indeed messed up the 0 HP thing.  Should have looked it up.  I'll rewrite the post, I guess.
Pisca Neep Freemish
 Gnome Archaeologist, 3486 posts
 The Gnome!
 And Her Imagination
Wed 18 Apr 2018
at 17:34
Re: Possible Restart
In reply to The Raconteur (msg # 300):

FWIW, I don't think a whole lot is going to change.  I don't think the door gets closed.  That's probably the biggest thing.
The Raconteur
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Wed 18 Apr 2018
at 17:48
Re: Possible Restart
Post updated.
Pisca Neep Freemish
 Gnome Archaeologist, 3488 posts
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Wed 18 Apr 2018
at 19:12
Re: Possible Restart
Like I said, not a whole lot is changed.
Cato Crispin
 Human Wizard, 1512 posts
 Quarterstaff Expert
Thu 19 Apr 2018
at 01:11
Re: Possible Restart
So, is my action right now just casting Haste?
Kellan Storval
 Human Fighter, 1434 posts
 Miniboss
Thu 19 Apr 2018
at 01:25
Re: Possible Restart
Well if we were at a table...this is when I would be looking around and wondering if  we should continue.

We are obviously into something, between Kerr's detext evil and Iesha turning out to be an expert killer...but Pisca sis just get downed in one round.

Granted they were very lucky rolls...
The Raconteur
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Thu 19 Apr 2018
at 01:47
Re: Possible Restart
They were pretty lucky rolls!  And remember Pisca was flanked, so they got a combat bonus as well as any sneak-attack damage to which they might be entitled.

And yes, Cato, you've cast Haste this round, so Kellan and Liseth you are both under its influence.
The Raconteur
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Thu 19 Apr 2018
at 01:48
Re: Possible Restart
Kellan Storval:
Granted they were very lucky rolls...


I'm still befuddled by my ability to roll criticals on this system.  Hopefully Kerr will get one as well!
Pisca Neep Freemish
 Gnome Archaeologist, 3489 posts
 The Gnome!
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Thu 19 Apr 2018
at 01:50
Re: Possible Restart
They're not illusions.  We've determined that much.  Alternatives are disguise and shape changing.  If we're talking disguise, then we have CHA in play.  But, I'm wondering whether the CHA is placed where it can compete with us.  That is to say, in diplomacy.

Liseth is the diplomacy queen.  If she can convince the city guard, we may have an ally that could tip the balance in this.  Either way, it may be an interesting competition, trying to sway the guard to one side or the other through reason and/or charm.
Kellan Storval
 Human Fighter, 1436 posts
 Miniboss
Thu 19 Apr 2018
at 02:21
Re: Possible Restart
True, and with no detectable magic, in a dress, here's hoping her armor class is not that high...
Liseth Thoradin
 Human Oracle, 2969 posts
 Deluge of Positive Energy
 HP 42/42
Thu 19 Apr 2018
at 08:02
Re: Possible Restart
I couldn't decide how to do this action, so I went with making placating the guardsmen a full-time action for myself.  I was hung on the fact that diplomacy typically takes a minute or more, but 10 combat rounds might be a little silly in the situation.

I'm not even sure how Racon wants to handle the attempt, so I didn't roll anything yet.  My Diplomacy skill is +16 though.
The Raconteur
 GM, 2995 posts
 Teller of Tales
 Writer of Wrongs
Thu 19 Apr 2018
at 16:34
Re: Possible Restart
Liseth Thoradin:
I'm not even sure how Racon wants to handle the attempt, so I didn't roll anything yet.  My Diplomacy skill is +16 though.


Racon isn't sure how he wants to handle this either!  :)  Does anyone have any leads on Pathfinder rules regarding trying to persuade a confused person during combat?  Otherwise I suppose I'll have to make up some rules.  But surely this can't be the first time that something like this has happened.
Pisca Neep Freemish
 Gnome Archaeologist, 3490 posts
 The Gnome!
 And Her Imagination
Thu 19 Apr 2018
at 17:20
Re: Possible Restart
From reading various Google links I get the impression that most folks want to use Diplomacy to convince the people that they are currently fighting to stop.  That, of course, is not what we have here.  But, my impression is that the difference is only one of Attitude.  That is to say, if you're fighting someone, their attitude is likely to be Hostile.  In this case, it may be Indifferent.

As the thread below suggests, to rush a diplomacy attempt involves penalties.  Unfortunately, Paizo is not clear about what those penalties are.  The thread suggests -20 as a holdover from 3.5, but I think that in Pathfinder that's left pretty much up to a GM decision.

http://paizo.com/threads/rzs2mm0y?Diplomacy-in-combat
Cato Crispin
 Human Wizard, 1513 posts
 Quarterstaff Expert
Thu 19 Apr 2018
at 19:00
Re: Possible Restart
It seems like this falls under "Making a Request" which can be accomplished in 1 round, especially for a relatively simple request versus the "Influence Attitude" which takes 1 minute.

Given that, you can determine the DC, but the guard is probably indifferent or unfriendly, which is a base DC of 15 or 20, then it might even fall under "Give Aid that could result in punishment" because if he lets a bunch of strangers murder a lord, I could see him getting punished.  So that pushes the DC to 30-35 depending on his initial attitude.
The Raconteur
 GM, 2996 posts
 Teller of Tales
 Writer of Wrongs
Thu 19 Apr 2018
at 21:51
Re: Possible Restart
This is a little different than making a request, though.  Liseth actually needs to convince the guardsman that she's on the right side; he's not going to help her if he thinks she's on the wrong side, and right now he's (rightfully) highly skeptical.

So what I've done is create a chart of the guard's attitudes and reactions:

BELIEVER - Actively assists in combat

SEMI-CONVINCED - Will defend attacked party members

NEUTRAL - will defend himself.

SKEPTIC - will attack party members who attack the Foxgloves.

ENEMY - Actively assists the Foxgloves

Right now he is at "skeptic."  Where he ends up depends on how Liseth does on her diplomacy roll.  The DCs are for my eyes only.  :)  Roll away, Liseth!
Hand of Fate
 GM, 51 posts
Thu 19 Apr 2018
at 22:33
Re: Possible Restart
Y'all is gonna kill ya a Magnimar city guard. That there ain't neighborly.
Cato Crispin
 Human Wizard, 1514 posts
 Quarterstaff Expert
Fri 20 Apr 2018
at 00:35
Re: Possible Restart
Or we're going to kill someone disguised as a Magnimar City Guard.
Liseth Thoradin
 Human Oracle, 2970 posts
 Deluge of Positive Energy
 HP 42/42
Fri 20 Apr 2018
at 01:04
Re: Possible Restart
In reply to Cato Crispin (msg # 316):

He was a monster in disguise!  Why else would we have attacked him?
The Raconteur
 GM, 2997 posts
 Teller of Tales
 Writer of Wrongs
Fri 20 Apr 2018
at 04:26
Re: Possible Restart
Still need you to make the dice roll, Liseth.  :)
Liseth Thoradin
 Human Oracle, 2971 posts
 Deluge of Positive Energy
 HP 42/42
Fri 20 Apr 2018
at 06:51
Re: Possible Restart
Oh!  Oops!  I didn't even see that you had asked me to roll!  Sorry!

23:51, Today: Liseth Thoradin rolled 33 using 1d20+16.  Diplomacy: Influence Guard.

Wow, 33 on Diplomacy!  No wonder why Pisca crowned me Diplomacy Queen.
Pisca Neep Freemish
 Gnome Archaeologist, 3491 posts
 The Gnome!
 And Her Imagination
Fri 20 Apr 2018
at 11:33
Re: Possible Restart
Woo!  Go, Lysa!
Kellan Storval
 Human Fighter, 1437 posts
 Miniboss
Fri 20 Apr 2018
at 11:54
Re: Possible Restart
Awesome, that could make all the difference.
The Raconteur
 GM, 2998 posts
 Teller of Tales
 Writer of Wrongs
Fri 20 Apr 2018
at 16:28
Re: Possible Restart
Wow, Liseth, lol.  Nice roll!

I have a lot of work commitments this morning but I will move things along this afternoon.
Cato Crispin
 Human Wizard, 1515 posts
 Quarterstaff Expert
Fri 20 Apr 2018
at 17:46
Re: Possible Restart
Wow, that's a nice roll.  And a huge diplomacy bonus to boot!
The Raconteur
 GM, 3000 posts
 Teller of Tales
 Writer of Wrongs
Sat 21 Apr 2018
at 06:23
Re: Possible Restart
This easily could have gone so much worse for you guys, lol.  Well done Liseth!
Liseth Thoradin
 Human Oracle, 2972 posts
 Deluge of Positive Energy
 HP 42/42
Sat 21 Apr 2018
at 06:24
Re: Possible Restart
Everything we do could easily go poorly for us.  That's why we're adventurers!
Liseth Thoradin
 Human Oracle, 2973 posts
 Deluge of Positive Energy
 HP 42/42
Sat 21 Apr 2018
at 08:45
Re: Possible Restart
Hummm...do I continue speaking with the guard?  I feel like I should keep talking to him.  But I kind of also want to heal Pisca and Kellan.
Kellan Storval
 Human Fighter, 1438 posts
 Miniboss
Sat 21 Apr 2018
at 12:07
Re: Possible Restart
Could I bother you for Cato's result before Kellan goes Racon? Going to see if he can potentially occupy Alderns space.
The Raconteur
 GM, 3001 posts
 Teller of Tales
 Writer of Wrongs
Sat 21 Apr 2018
at 13:24
Re: Possible Restart
He is not held.  At least I didn't roll this 20 during combat, I guess.

06:23, Today: Secret Roll: The Raconteur, for the NPC Aldern Foxglove, rolled 26 using 1d20+6.  DC 17 Will Save v. Hold Person.
Pisca Neep Freemish
 Gnome Archaeologist, 3492 posts
 The Gnome!
 And Her Imagination
Sat 21 Apr 2018
at 14:31
Re: Possible Restart
Liseth, can you perform some sort of burst healing?  That would allow you enough spare time to converse a bit with the guard while healing at the same time.

As for Pisca, she's going to heal herself.  The spell will put her one point into negative after the completion of the act, but the spell itself will bring Pisca up into positive hit point territory.

quote:
Disabled
A character with 0 hit points, or one who has negative hit points but has become stable and conscious, is disabled. A disabled character may take a single move action or standard action each round (but not both, nor can he take full-round actions, but he can still take swift, immediate, and free actions). He moves at half speed. Taking move actions doesnít risk further injury, but performing any standard action (or any other action the GM deems strenuous, including some free actions such as casting a Quicken Spell spell) deals 1 point of damage after the completion of the act. Unless the action increased the disabled characterís hit points, he is now in negative hit points and dying.

Liseth Thoradin
 Human Oracle, 2975 posts
 Deluge of Positive Energy
 HP 42/42
Sat 21 Apr 2018
at 22:15
Re: Possible Restart
Well, I cured everyone for 5 points...that was a pretty bad roll.

15:14, Today: Liseth Thoradin rolled 5 using 3d6+1.  Channel Energy to Heal.
Pisca Neep Freemish
 Gnome Archaeologist, 3493 posts
 The Gnome!
 And Her Imagination
Sat 21 Apr 2018
at 22:48
Re: Possible Restart
In reply to Liseth Thoradin (msg # 330):

About as well as Pisca's doing.

Pisca Neep Freemish rolled 6 using 1d8+5.  CLW.
Cato Crispin
 Human Wizard, 1518 posts
 Quarterstaff Expert
Tue 24 Apr 2018
at 10:54
Re: Possible Restart
Actually, if this is something like a Doppleganger, itís a monstrous humanoid and therefor Know: Nature, not Arcana. Catoís also trained in that.
Kellan Storval
 Human Fighter, 1443 posts
 Miniboss
Sat 28 Apr 2018
at 14:12
Re: Possible Restart
Hah! I missed Pisca being Pisca, such a good character.
Pisca Neep Freemish
 Gnome Archaeologist, 3499 posts
 The Gnome!
 And Her Imagination
Sat 28 Apr 2018
at 14:42
Re: Possible Restart
Pisca being Pisca inventing and re-inventing Pisca.
The Raconteur
 GM, 3005 posts
 Teller of Tales
 Writer of Wrongs
Wed 2 May 2018
at 03:59
Re: Possible Restart
Just waiting for you, Liseth.
Liseth Thoradin
 Human Oracle, 2979 posts
 Deluge of Positive Energy
 HP 42/42
Wed 2 May 2018
at 04:51
Re: Possible Restart
Sorry!  I have some midterms coming up and let time get away from me.
Hand of Fate
 GM, 52 posts
Thu 3 May 2018
at 11:57
Editing
I edited Cato's post.  I changed the first word from "Consider" to "Cato".  I'm 99.9% sure that's what he meant to type.  So, if you see that I made an edit, that was it.  I didn't alter anything else.
Pisca Neep Freemish
 Gnome Archaeologist, 3501 posts
 The Gnome!
 And Her Imagination
Thu 3 May 2018
at 12:52
Editing
Pisca thought it was better the other way.  I told her that it didn't make sense that way.  My argument did little to sway her opinion.
Hand of Fate
 GM, 53 posts
Thu 3 May 2018
at 14:03
Editing
In reply to Pisca Neep Freemish (msg # 338):

Well, I thought about adding...

Ph'nglui mglw'nafh Cthulhu R'lyeh wgah'nagl fhtagn.

I thought that would sound lovely.

This message was last edited by the GM at 14:04, Thu 03 May 2018.

Pisca Neep Freemish
 Gnome Archaeologist, 3502 posts
 The Gnome!
 And Her Imagination
Thu 3 May 2018
at 14:08
Editing
Pisca says that's dark.

And forbidding.

Full of desolation and despair.

And malevolence.  She's having me add malevolence as well.
Hand of Fate
 GM, 54 posts
Thu 3 May 2018
at 14:20
Editing
I love the smell of desolation and despair in the morning...
Cato Crispin
 Human Wizard, 1523 posts
 Quarterstaff Expert
Thu 3 May 2018
at 19:41
Editing
Yeah, that's what I meant to type.  Full day of work while traveling makes my mind work a little more slowly than it otherwise would.
Hand of Fate
 GM, 55 posts
Fri 4 May 2018
at 11:25
Re: Editing
Cato Crispin:
Yeah, that's what I meant to type.  Full day of work while traveling makes my mind work a little more slowly than it otherwise would.


Trust me.  I get it. :-)
The Raconteur
 GM, 3008 posts
 Teller of Tales
 Writer of Wrongs
Mon 14 May 2018
at 00:31
Re: Editing
I'm sorry for my slowness in posting, guys, but I'm dealing with a personal experience that has just sapped all the joy out of my life, so I'm finding it hard to do anything I actually enjoy.  Time heals all wounds, etc., but right now it's still pretty fresh.  I'll do my best but if the quality is substandard now you know why.
Pisca Neep Freemish
 Gnome Archaeologist, 3504 posts
 The Gnome!
 And Her Imagination
Mon 14 May 2018
at 04:49
Re: Editing
Take care of yourself.  We'll be here.
Pisca Neep Freemish
 Gnome Archaeologist, 3505 posts
 The Gnome!
 And Her Imagination
Mon 14 May 2018
at 04:52
Re: Editing
BTW, I thought your latest post was fine.  Nicely done.
The Raconteur
 GM, 3010 posts
 Teller of Tales
 Writer of Wrongs
Mon 14 May 2018
at 15:50
Re: Editing
Thanks Pisca.  :)
Kellan Storval
 Human Fighter, 1446 posts
 Miniboss
Tue 15 May 2018
at 18:57
Re: Editing
Seriously, take your time.

If you want to talk, we are here.
Liseth Thoradin
 Human Oracle, 2983 posts
 Deluge of Positive Energy
 HP 42/42
Fri 18 May 2018
at 00:03
Re: Editing
I don't mind a little time being taken for a good cause.  I've been a little quiet myself from sheer lack of sleep.  Lots of school work!
Cato Crispin
 Human Wizard, 1528 posts
 Quarterstaff Expert
Fri 1 Jun 2018
at 16:02
Re: Editing
Ugh, sorry.  It's been a tough week.  My grandma is in hospice care now, and I just took a whirlwind trip to Florida to see her, not at all helped by the fact that it took me almost 10 hours to get home instead of 2 thanks to all the thunderstorms in DC last night.  At least I got a nice tour of the Richmond and Norfolk airports out of the bargain!
Kellan Storval
 Human Fighter, 1448 posts
 Miniboss
Fri 1 Jun 2018
at 16:04
Re: Editing
Sounds like a rough trip Cato.

You didn't miss much, it sounds like Racon is dealing with something serious on his end.
Pisca Neep Freemish
 Gnome Archaeologist, 3511 posts
 The Gnome!
 And Her Imagination
Fri 1 Jun 2018
at 16:27
Re: Editing
Though, I think we're pretty much dealing with a Roleplaying situation as things stand right now.  We should be able to keep things rolling for a bit with that.

From what I can see we have two issues to deal with here.

1) Do we kill or not?  And how does each of our characters deal with the decision either way.
2) How do we dispose of the bodies?  Or do we even bother?  And why do we choose a particular way.
Hand of Fate
 GM, 56 posts
Fri 1 Jun 2018
at 16:32
Re: Editing
Of course you kill!  What kind of murderhobos are you?
Cato Crispin
 Human Wizard, 1529 posts
 Quarterstaff Expert
Fri 1 Jun 2018
at 16:33
Re: Editing
In reply to Kellan Storval (msg # 351):

Well, nothing better to jump back to the game than a discussion about disposing of aberrant humanoid shapechangers.

Yeah, I was thinking of something to counter Pisca's argument.  While I think Cato is perfectly content to kill intelligent creatures that oppose his goals and threaten those things he holds dear, killing enemies and then disposing of their bodies seems like a step too far.  Though that still leaves the interesting question of what exactly to do.
Pisca Neep Freemish
 Gnome Archaeologist, 3512 posts
 The Gnome!
 And Her Imagination
Fri 1 Jun 2018
at 16:47
Re: Editing
Pisca is something of a trickster.  In her mind it's better to leave the people behind the critters wondering what happened, than to leave open evidence that we've disposed of them and that we are now here in Magnimar.

I'll admit, though, that I have no reasonably viable way to get rid of the bodies in what appears to be the limited time we have.  Both of Pisca's suggestions, though fantastically interesting, most obviously, involve conduits that we have no ready access to.
Cato Crispin
 Human Wizard, 1530 posts
 Quarterstaff Expert
Fri 1 Jun 2018
at 17:08
Re: Editing
Cato can cast Acid Splash over and over again until the bodies are gone!
Liseth Thoradin
 Human Oracle, 2985 posts
 Deluge of Positive Energy
 HP 42/42
Fri 1 Jun 2018
at 20:38
Re: Editing
Donate the bodies to a magic academy or itinerate wizard.  Spellcasters always want weird bodies for research or spell components!

You know, this is exactly the kind of conversation that no one writing an adventure ever considers.

This message was last edited by the player at 20:39, Fri 01 June 2018.

Cato Crispin
 Human Wizard, 1532 posts
 Quarterstaff Expert
Sat 2 Jun 2018
at 19:34
Re: Editing
Actually, Pisca has a point. I could summon something. A crocodile?  1d3 wolves. 1d4+1 dogs?  But that probably wouldnít be clean.
Liseth Thoradin
 Human Oracle, 2986 posts
 Deluge of Positive Energy
 HP 42/42
Sat 2 Jun 2018
at 19:43
Re: Editing
But...once a summon ends, it doesn't take anything BACK with it.  Like matter it may have ingested.  That would be pretty gross.
Pisca Neep Freemish
 Gnome Archaeologist, 3514 posts
 The Gnome!
 And Her Imagination
Sat 2 Jun 2018
at 23:20
Re: Editing
Crazy gnome.  ^_^
The Raconteur
 GM, 3011 posts
 Teller of Tales
 Writer of Wrongs
Wed 1 Jan 2020
at 02:15
Happy New Year!
Happy New Year's Eve, you all!

You know, I went back and started reading some of our stuff and SIX HOURS LATER I went to bed at around 3 a.m.  This was such a great story and even though we've moved on I'm still proud of it.  This is the best game I've ever had the privilege to be a part of and that was pretty much because of what great players you were.

So many moments.  Thanks for sharing them with me.  :)
Kellan Storval
 Human Fighter, 1450 posts
 Miniboss
Wed 1 Jan 2020
at 02:20
Happy New Year!
Racon!

Happy New Year!!!

I hope all is well with you and yours.

This game is still the best I've played in here on RPoL after many years.

I broke into a big smile when I saw this game light up. I wonder if some of the others are still around?
The Raconteur
 GM, 3012 posts
 Teller of Tales
 Writer of Wrongs
Wed 1 Jan 2020
at 02:24
Happy New Year!
Hey Kellan!

Looks like Cato stopped by earlier this month and Pisca and Liseth were both here in October, so I'm guessing they'll see it.  :)
Pisca Neep Freemish
 Gnome Archaeologist, 3515 posts
 The Gnome!
 And Her Imagination
Wed 1 Jan 2020
at 13:54
Happy New Year!
Well, happy new year to all.  So good to hear that everyone's still up and around.  I think about you guys every now and again.  Fond memories.
Liseth Thoradin
 Human Oracle, 2987 posts
 Deluge of Positive Energy
 HP 42/42
Fri 17 Jan 2020
at 04:53
Happy New Year!
20/20 is the perfect year to be looking back.  I was just remembering that today is Racon's birthday (Happy Birthday!) and here I find that I missed New Year's greetings from everyone!

We had the best roleplaying group I've ever been a part of, bar none.  I'm glad everyone has fond memories.
Pisca Neep Freemish
 Gnome Archaeologist, 3516 posts
 The Gnome!
 And Her Imagination
Fri 17 Jan 2020
at 05:49
Happy New Year!
Hey, Liseth.  I had Racon's birthday on my calendar too.  Hope everyone is doing well in the new year.
Cato Crispin
 Human Wizard, 1533 posts
 Quarterstaff Expert
Mon 27 Jan 2020
at 19:45
Happy New Year!
Hi everyone!  Yeah, I log back into RPOL every once in a while.  Nice to see everyone, and I'll very much echo the sentiment about this game.  I've started playing an in-person game again, which scratches the itch that RPOL did, but I still enjoy logging in and checking things occasionally.
The Raconteur
 GM, 3013 posts
 Teller of Tales
 Writer of Wrongs
Sun 1 Mar 2020
at 02:19
Happy New Year!
Thanks for the birthday wishes!  :D

Have any of you guys played Pathfinder 2E?  If so, what do you think?
Liseth Thoradin
 Human Oracle, 2988 posts
 Deluge of Positive Energy
 HP 42/42
Sun 1 Mar 2020
at 02:24
Happy New Year!
No, I haven't read anything about it yet.  I only learned of its existence a few weeks ago.  Didn't want it to muck up my extensive knowledge of the original edition!
The Raconteur
 GM, 3014 posts
 Teller of Tales
 Writer of Wrongs
Sun 1 Mar 2020
at 02:27
Happy New Year!
YOUR KNOWLEDGE IS INDEED ENCYLOPEDIC.  :)

I can understand not wanting to muck around with your expertise.  I've heard good things about 2E though.
Kellan Storval
 Human Fighter, 1451 posts
 Miniboss
Sun 1 Mar 2020
at 02:34
Happy New Year!
I've heard it's easier for beginners, and some people have felt that they included a lot of house rules they were already using, like feat tax stuff or background skills.

But I've also heard it's just a way to sell more books while keeping 90 percent of the original material.
Liseth Thoradin
 Human Oracle, 2989 posts
 Deluge of Positive Energy
 HP 42/42
Sun 1 Mar 2020
at 02:36
Happy New Year!
Racon:
YOUR KNOWLEDGE IS INDEED ENCYLOPEDIC.  :)


The Encyclopedia Thoradica!

Kellan:
But I've also heard it's just a way to sell more books while keeping 90 percent of the original material.


That's my inclination as well.  Not that it's bad to drum up funds, but it feels like the same deal as college textbooks.  Change just a little bit and then charge full price for the new edition.

This message was last edited by the player at 02:37, Sun 01 Mar.

Pisca Neep Freemish
 Gnome Archaeologist, 3517 posts
 The Gnome!
 And Her Imagination
Sun 1 Mar 2020
at 03:19
Happy New Year!
I'd not heard peep one about 2E.  TTYTT, I'm just getting my feet wet with D&D 5E.  From what I've seen so far, I'm liking it.  It doesn't have the complexity of Pathfinder, and that's both good and bad.  Complexity adds richness.  But, to throw in a Pisca-ism, complexity is complex.

What have you heard about 2E?
Pisca Neep Freemish
 Gnome Archaeologist, 3518 posts
 The Gnome!
 And Her Imagination
Sun 1 Mar 2020
at 03:30
Re: Happy New Year!
Kellan Storval:
I've heard it's easier for beginners, and some people have felt that they included a lot of house rules they were already using, like feat tax stuff or background skills.

But I've also heard it's just a way to sell more books while keeping 90 percent of the original material.

I'm in a game that offers background skills.  It's nice to be able to devote some skill points to arts or performance even if it doesn't back up your class.  Or to devote skill points to crafts that don't have anything to do with combat.  Craft[Cooking], for example.
The Raconteur
 GM, 3015 posts
 Teller of Tales
 Writer of Wrongs
Sun 1 Mar 2020
at 03:36
Happy New Year!
What have I heard?

Overall, the game is much simpler to play and understand.  But they still have a lot of character options, but they expanded the feat system a lot rather than making each class a special snowflake with a lot of class specific rules.  Maybe they repurposed my Flavor Feat idea!  ;D

In combat, they did away with Standard, Move, Free, etc actions.  Now each turn every character has 3 Actions.  Different activities take different number of Actions.  Most things take 1.  Casting a Spell takes 2.  Moving takes 1.  You can attack 3 times from 1st level now, if you don't do anything else.  It's just that every attack after the 1st gets a -5 cumulative penalty.  You score a critical hit if you beat the target AC by 10 or more, and no more rolling to confirm.

There are now 3 power sources for Magic:  Arcane, Divine, Primal, and Occult.  Wizards are Arcane.  Clerics are Divine.  Druids are Primal.  Bards are Occult.  Sorcerers pick a source based on where they get their powers.  So, you could have a Sorcerer that cast Divine Spells.

There isn't a specific list of spells for each class.  Each class just falls into one of the boxes for a source.  There is some overlap.  A healing spell might be both Divine and Primal, for example.  It's a way to categorize the spells without having 15 different lists or 3 different spells that do basically the same thing.  The mechanics of spellcaster vary from class to class, depending on whether you are a prepared or spontaneous caster.

So a lot less complexity.  I think there's only 40 pages of rules in the new book; everything else is class descriptions, creating a Character, spell List, skills, feats, game master section, equipment, treasure and that kind of stuff.

Sounds a lot different to me!
Pisca Neep Freemish
 Gnome Archaeologist, 3519 posts
 The Gnome!
 And Her Imagination
Sun 1 Mar 2020
at 03:53
Happy New Year!
That does sound very different.  To the point that I can't imagine how it plays.  I like taking out the Critical Threat roll.  I wonder if the AC+10 for a crit rule would make the game more deadly or less?  Certainly would make better armor more valuable.

Do you know if they took out the Touch AC concept like they did in D&D 5E?
The Raconteur
 GM, 3016 posts
 Teller of Tales
 Writer of Wrongs
Sun 1 Mar 2020
at 03:57
Happy New Year!
I have no idea.  All that information is actually me recapping a convo I hate with Hand of Fate, so I don't have any other independent knowledge.  But it sounded intriguing!
Liseth Thoradin
 Human Oracle, 2990 posts
 Deluge of Positive Energy
 HP 42/42
Sun 1 Mar 2020
at 05:01
Happy New Year!
But, but...but I spent so much time navigating the complexity!
The Raconteur
 GM, 3017 posts
 Teller of Tales
 Writer of Wrongs
Sun 1 Mar 2020
at 07:34
Happy New Year!
But the real navigation is the friends we made along the way.  :)
Pisca Neep Freemish
 Gnome Archaeologist, 3520 posts
 The Gnome!
 And Her Imagination
Sun 1 Mar 2020
at 12:57
Happy New Year!
Words so true.  And the truly good games are made less by the gaming system, than by the people who play along side you.

It's hard to find a good game.
The Raconteur
 GM, 3018 posts
 Teller of Tales
 Writer of Wrongs
Sun 1 Mar 2020
at 23:08
Happy New Year!
And this was one of the best.  I would definitely like to run another game with you guys if I ever get the free time.  Maybe after my kids head off to college.  If you guys are interested at that point.
Liseth Thoradin
 Human Oracle, 2991 posts
 Deluge of Positive Energy
 HP 42/42
Sun 1 Mar 2020
at 23:16
Happy New Year!
I'm sure I'll be around.  Your kids are...14, 15?

Tell them that they want to study Geology!
The Raconteur
 GM, 3019 posts
 Teller of Tales
 Writer of Wrongs
Sun 1 Mar 2020
at 23:22
Happy New Year!
17 and 15.

So a HS junior and freshman.

The older one wants to go into programming.  The younger one wants to be a teacher.
Kellan Storval
 Human Fighter, 1452 posts
 Miniboss
Sun 1 Mar 2020
at 23:24
Happy New Year!
We'll almost certainly be here. Cato's kids should be in School by then!
Pisca Neep Freemish
 Gnome Archaeologist, 3521 posts
 The Gnome!
 And Her Imagination
Mon 2 Mar 2020
at 01:20
Happy New Year!
That would be really cool.  I'd be up for that.
Hand of Fate
 GM, 57 posts
Mon 2 Mar 2020
at 01:46
Happy New Year!
In reply to The Raconteur (msg # 383):

Hey!  I'm a programmer!
The Raconteur
 GM, 3020 posts
 Teller of Tales
 Writer of Wrongs
Mon 2 Mar 2020
at 01:56
Happy New Year!
He wants to be a GOOD programmer, HoF.  :D
Pisca Neep Freemish
 Gnome Archaeologist, 3522 posts
 The Gnome!
 And Her Imagination
Mon 2 Mar 2020
at 02:01
Happy New Year!
Yeah.  But would that be a Lawful Good programmer, or a Chaotic Good programmer?
Kellan Storval
 Human Fighter, 1453 posts
 Miniboss
Mon 2 Mar 2020
at 02:03
Happy New Year!
I'd posit that programming is inherently Lawful, but not always inherently good...
Pisca Neep Freemish
 Gnome Archaeologist, 3523 posts
 The Gnome!
 And Her Imagination
Mon 2 Mar 2020
at 02:09
Happy New Year!
Google's moto is to do no evil.

They don't always make it there, though.

As to the Lawful bit ...  Ideally, yes.  But ... some people.  Ugh.
Hand of Fate
 GM, 58 posts
Mon 2 Mar 2020
at 12:06
Happy New Year!
The way I program is kinda Chaotic Neutral.
Hand of Fate
 GM, 59 posts
Mon 2 Mar 2020
at 12:06
Happy New Year!
Y'all should start this game up again.  It was cool.
Pisca Neep Freemish
 Gnome Archaeologist, 3524 posts
 The Gnome!
 And Her Imagination
Mon 2 Mar 2020
at 12:20
Happy New Year!
Still in South Efrika?
Liseth Thoradin
 Human Oracle, 2992 posts
 Deluge of Positive Energy
 HP 42/42
Mon 2 Mar 2020
at 12:32
Happy New Year!
Pisca:
Couldn't you possibly summon a pack of ravenous pigs to eat the dead bodies?


The last In-Character line of the game.  I have to admit, it IS a very awkward place to stop!
Pisca Neep Freemish
 Gnome Archaeologist, 3525 posts
 The Gnome!
 And Her Imagination
Mon 2 Mar 2020
at 12:58
Happy New Year!
lol.  omg, did I say that?
Hand of Fate
 GM, 60 posts
Mon 2 Mar 2020
at 13:53
Happy New Year!
In reply to Pisca Neep Freemish (msg # 393):

Nope.  I've been home in East Tennessee since October 2016. :-)
Hand of Fate
 GM, 61 posts
Mon 2 Mar 2020
at 13:56
Happy New Year!
Liseth Thoradin:
Pisca:
Couldn't you possibly summon a pack of ravenous pigs to eat the dead bodies?


The last In-Character line of the game.  I have to admit, it IS a very awkward place to stop!


Yeah.  That quote really needs some context.
Pisca Neep Freemish
 Gnome Archaeologist, 3526 posts
 The Gnome!
 And Her Imagination
Mon 2 Mar 2020
at 14:26
Re: Happy New Year!
Hand of Fate:
In reply to Pisca Neep Freemish (msg # 393):

Nope.  I've been home in East Tennessee since October 2016. :-)

Ah.  I was wondering where the Y'all came from.
Hand of Fate
 GM, 62 posts
Mon 2 Mar 2020
at 14:56
Re: Happy New Year!
Pisca Neep Freemish:
Hand of Fate:
In reply to Pisca Neep Freemish (msg # 393):

Nope.  I've been home in East Tennessee since October 2016. :-)

Ah.  I was wondering where the Y'all came from.


I'm a backwoods, mountain boy at heart.
Liseth Thoradin
 Human Oracle, 2993 posts
 Deluge of Positive Energy
 HP 42/42
Mon 2 Mar 2020
at 19:46
Re: Happy New Year!
Context shmontext!
Cato Crispin
 Human Wizard, 1534 posts
 Quarterstaff Expert
Tue 3 Mar 2020
at 19:00
Re: Happy New Year!
Kellan Storval:
We'll almost certainly be here. Cato's kids should be in School by then!

My twins started kindergarten this year!
Pisca Neep Freemish
 Gnome Archaeologist, 3527 posts
 The Gnome!
 And Her Imagination
Tue 3 Mar 2020
at 22:52
Re: Happy New Year!
Looks like we all still monitor this game.
Liseth Thoradin
 Human Oracle, 2994 posts
 Deluge of Positive Energy
 HP 42/42
Wed 4 Mar 2020
at 08:06
Re: Happy New Year!
Of course!  I just finished re-reading everything last week.  It's a great story, made even better because we all wrote it.
The Raconteur
 GM, 3021 posts
 Teller of Tales
 Writer of Wrongs
Thu 5 Mar 2020
at 05:15
Re: Happy New Year!
Have any favorite moments, Liseth?  :)
Liseth Thoradin
 Human Oracle, 2995 posts
 Deluge of Positive Energy
 HP 42/42
Thu 5 Mar 2020
at 05:49
Re: Happy New Year!
But there's so many good ones!

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I always laugh reading this scene.  Pisca getting Liseth drunk during the first dinner with Foxglove.  So classic!

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Or Cato actually FINDING a gobbie in Aeren Barett's closet!  That was fun, especially after Amelle walked in!

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Kerr getting fit for his armor, Kellan did a great job describing wearing armor to him.  And the rest of the scene too!  Getting my new dress from Savah's armory, and then that mean Cerlynne Scarnetti!

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Oh, here's where Elsbet blows up at Liseth and then BOTH girls wind up ambushing Kerr while he's in the washroom!  Liseth is such a magnet for drama!
The Raconteur
 GM, 3022 posts
 Teller of Tales
 Writer of Wrongs
Thu 5 Mar 2020
at 06:46
Re: Happy New Year!
I'd forgotten about the washroom scene!  Kerr was SO VERY uncomfortable.  And confused.  So confused, lol.  That was a good one.

One of my favorite scenes happened super early--Das Korvut's Ogre Stomp!

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Das Korvut was a lot of fun to write, and I think it's where we really established the relationship between Kellan and Alergast.  And Kellan's rolling?  Perfection.

I also greatly enjoyed the meeting with Vorvashali Voon

The return to Sandpoint, with Pisca's reaction to Shalelu's "jackanapes" and then Quint and Santo's (love those guys!) dramatic recap of the Battle for Sandpoint and Alergast's Charge.

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The epic battle with Tsuto in the Glassworks was a lot of fun.
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Any of Pisca's interactions with Vhiski.  Loved that relationship.

Kellan finding out that Shayliss didn't REALLY have a rat problem, and then Ven showing up!
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Cato helping Brodert take down Veznutt Parooh and Ilsoari Gandethus
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You're right, Liseth.  So many moments.  :)  And who can forget Nisk Tanner?  :D

This message was last edited by the GM at 06:52, Thu 05 Mar.

Hand of Fate
 GM, 63 posts
Thu 5 Mar 2020
at 11:52
Re: Happy New Year!
After all that, explain to me why y'all ain't picking this game up again?
Pisca Neep Freemish
 Gnome Archaeologist, 3528 posts
 The Gnome!
 And Her Imagination
Thu 5 Mar 2020
at 12:25
Re: Happy New Year!
Gotta say, Shayliss took me by surprise.  That was indeed an excellent moment.
Pisca Neep Freemish
 Gnome Archaeologist, 3529 posts
 The Gnome!
 And Her Imagination
Thu 5 Mar 2020
at 12:27
Re: Happy New Year!
Hand of Fate:
After all that, explain to me why y'all ain't picking this game up again?

How did Orson Wells put it?  "We shall make no wine before its time."  Something like that.

I just looked it up, and I like mine better.
Hand of Fate
 GM, 64 posts
Thu 5 Mar 2020
at 12:45
Re: Happy New Year!
Pisca Neep Freemish:
Hand of Fate:
After all that, explain to me why y'all ain't picking this game up again?

How did Orson Wells put it?  "We shall make no wine before its time."  Something like that.

I just looked it up, and I like mine better.


I'm just a dumb hillbilly.  I don't know what that means.
Pisca Neep Freemish
 Gnome Archaeologist, 3530 posts
 The Gnome!
 And Her Imagination
Thu 5 Mar 2020
at 12:52
Re: Happy New Year!
Sorry.  Must be my age.  It's from a series of commercials for Paul Masson wines.  The first link below actually captures the sentiment quite well.  The wiki link tells you more about the whole series of commercials.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oSs6DcA6dFI

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/...asson_advertisements
Hand of Fate
 GM, 65 posts
Thu 5 Mar 2020
at 12:55
Re: Happy New Year!
No, no... I'm old enough easily to remember the commercials.  I didn't know how it applied to my question.  I could be missing some context.
Pisca Neep Freemish
 Gnome Archaeologist, 3531 posts
 The Gnome!
 And Her Imagination
Thu 5 Mar 2020
at 12:59
Re: Happy New Year!
Ah.  What I mean is that when - and I suppose if - the game is ready to start again, then it will start again.
Hand of Fate
 GM, 66 posts
Thu 5 Mar 2020
at 15:09
Re: Happy New Year!
Ah...  I thought there was some super-secret code thing going on.
Pisca Neep Freemish
 Gnome Archaeologist, 3532 posts
 The Gnome!
 And Her Imagination
Thu 5 Mar 2020
at 15:14
Re: Happy New Year!
Just a nod to the organic flow of things.  The digestive movements of the universe with plenty of fruits and veggies and fiber rich foods.
Kellan Storval
 Human Fighter, 1454 posts
 Miniboss
Thu 5 Mar 2020
at 16:30
Re: Happy New Year!
Heh, yeah. Racon is something of a perfectionist.

While I'm sure we would all love to continue this story, we did set the bar pretty high I think, and resuming before everything (and everyone) was "ready" would just do it an injustice.
The Raconteur
 GM, 3023 posts
 Teller of Tales
 Writer of Wrongs
Fri 6 Mar 2020
at 06:05
Re: Happy New Year!
Yeah, we'd all need to be able to commit some time to it.  If I was to restart it I'd probably ask everyone to designate a week a couple of months later where they could commit to being available to posting for most of the day.  I think one of the things that really kicked us off well at the beginning was the high volume of posting we were able to do right at the beginning.  I think we'd need that again to "prime the pumps," as it were.  And the couple of months would give everyone time to reread things and get a sense of their character and where we were.

But as I said before I'd also need to have enough free time to do it justice.  And I'd need a commitment from everyone that they would make it a priority.  :)
Liseth Thoradin
 Human Oracle, 2996 posts
 Deluge of Positive Energy
 HP 42/42
Fri 6 Mar 2020
at 06:40
Re: Happy New Year!
Good thing I just finished reading everything!  I don't think I'd need too much of a primer get back into Liseth; she's like a second skin to me.  Certainly wouldn't hurt though.  Racon is right that everyone would have to be on board and ready to commit; Racon especially!  Being GM is a lot of work.

I started up my Echoes game again, with Pisca and a few other players.  Just getting things off the ground and one of the players had to bow out already.  The GM life is a life of frustration.  And fun.  Funstration.
Pisca Neep Freemish
 Gnome Archaeologist, 3533 posts
 The Gnome!
 And Her Imagination
Fri 6 Mar 2020
at 11:29
Re: Happy New Year!
I woke up with this idea this morning ...

I know:  Uh oh.  Right?

What if we took the story up a few years later?  Maybe 10 years.  I remember a bit - I think it was in one of the OoC threads - where we were talking about Liseth and Kerr as an old married couple.  I found the idea intriguing.  How would the characters change in ten years?

Then, rumblings of the case that they had left ten years ago begin to resurface.  And once again they come together to face the peril they walked away from at that time.
Liseth Thoradin
 Human Oracle, 2997 posts
 Deluge of Positive Energy
 HP 42/42
Fri 6 Mar 2020
at 12:33
Re: Happy New Year!
That's an intriguing idea.  I don't know how well that would work with the adventure path though.  I have specifically avoided reading any spoilers about Rise of the Runelords the published path (it's killing me!) but just from piecing together events in our game it looks like things are meant to proceed along a timeline.  Everything is so sudden and needs attention right away, or EVIL WINS.  Mua ha haa!

Besides, 10 years?  I don't know whether happily married Liseth with 2 beautiful babies could find the time to save the world!
Pisca Neep Freemish
 Gnome Archaeologist, 3534 posts
 The Gnome!
 And Her Imagination
Fri 6 Mar 2020
at 12:48
Re: Happy New Year!
Yeah.  I hear you there.  There would have to have been some plot convention that put the evil plans on hold for ten years too.  Until now .. bum bum buuuum.

And part of the dramatic tension would be these normal lives that everyone would have waiting for them.  More at stake.

Just an idea.
Liseth Thoradin
 Human Oracle, 2998 posts
 Deluge of Positive Energy
 HP 42/42
Fri 6 Mar 2020
at 12:58
Re: Happy New Year!
Now I have to wonder exactly what Pisca's 'Normal Life' entails.
Kellan Storval
 Human Fighter, 1455 posts
 Miniboss
Fri 6 Mar 2020
at 13:42
Re: Happy New Year!
I would need to reread and set aside the time personally. It is doable however, and I would be happy to make the effort.

I do like the "priming" idea. I think that would actually work.
Pisca Neep Freemish
 Gnome Archaeologist, 3535 posts
 The Gnome!
 And Her Imagination
Fri 6 Mar 2020
at 14:09
Re: Happy New Year!
Liseth Thoradin:
Now I have to wonder exactly what Pisca's 'Normal Life' entails.

That was a question I had too, Liseth.  The biggest problem for me would be addressing the longer lifespan of gnomes.  I've tried to address that a bit with Pisca by asking another question: How does 50 years of experience NOT equate to 50 years of human maturity?  And, after reading the Pathfinder description of gnomes for the forty hundredth time, I decided that a gnome matures when he or she discovers his or her first obsession.  Until that time, they are energy without direction.

One avenue that I'd considered was having Pisca attempt her library in Sandpoint.  At this point, she would discover that setting something up is not as simple as making something happen.  And running a library is not as simple as collecting books.  There's community outreach and building.  There's fundraising.  There's human resource management - both paid staff and volunteer.  There is ... Responsibility.  (With a capital Response.)  This changes her.  Caring for Lunk changes her.  How?  I'm not sure right now.  I'd have to play it out and see what she becomes.

BTW, this might be a good way to handle this Priming concept.  Rather than jumping right into the story where we left off.  If I recall correctly, there were some sticky decisions to be made, which could bog things down.  Free creation of ... THINGS.  That is to say, anything.  Doesn't have to be this ten year jump thing, but anything that brings us together to collaboratively flesh out our characters could provide a good venue for daily - if not multiple times daily - posting.
Kellan Storval
 Human Fighter, 1456 posts
 Miniboss
Fri 6 Mar 2020
at 14:40
Re: Happy New Year!
I do think there are some elements that could help us get off on the right foot again, should we commit to a restart, which is still not certain by the sound of things. This is mostly just throwing stuff at the wall to encourage us.

- A complete re-read, just to sort of absorb is all again.

- A separate short summary of the game so far, broken down by Chapter. (Liseth might be our go to for this given she just read it all again). We can even put recognizable "side quests" here like Cato's relationship with the Hell Knights.

- The creation of a character and location index for reference (This might be useful for Racon in the long run as well to help keep everything straight. Rather than rifling through the entire story, we can at least remember their name, basic appearance and role at a glance.)

- Some time to find the character "voices" again for consistency, sans combat, without any big decisions. Something like a communal version of the wildly successful "intro" threads at the beginning of the game.

- Lot's of team encouragement. I seem to recall that Racon was big on positive reinforcement and asking people to bring up aspects of writing or character development we enjoyed. Just like a fitness regime, having other people involved to keep up motivation could go a long way.

If we can commit to even a solid week of "mass" posting, I think we could have a real chance at regaining momentum. That is of course is Racon is in a good place in his life to resume the mantel (and the burden of commitment). If he is not, we should continue to hold off I think.
Cato Crispin
 Human Wizard, 1535 posts
 Quarterstaff Expert
Sat 7 Mar 2020
at 03:59
Re: Happy New Year!
One of the reasons I originally put all of my RPoL games on hold was that my (then) new job blocked access to RPoL at work.  However, now I'm teleworking at least half the time, which means I can post at home, and posting at night is easier the older my kids get.

*Edit: Though in some ways, this was the game I was most involved with.  I think I changed jobs back in the fall of 2017, but the last post here was June 2018.  This game going on hold was the reason I stopped checking RPoL often and bowed out of my other games.

This message was last edited by the player at 04:02, Sat 07 Mar.

Pisca Neep Freemish
 Gnome Archaeologist, 3536 posts
 The Gnome!
 And Her Imagination
Sat 7 Mar 2020
at 13:48
Re: Happy New Year!
Was that only 2018?  It seems longer.

Time is a funny thing.  No wonder gnomes laugh as much as they do.  Except for the ones who don't.
Hand of Fate
 GM, 67 posts
Sun 8 Mar 2020
at 21:20
Re: Happy New Year!
I will commit to twice as much effort and work as I put in before!
The Raconteur
 GM, 3024 posts
 Teller of Tales
 Writer of Wrongs
Wed 25 Mar 2020
at 19:14
Re: Happy New Year!
Hope you guys are all staying safe in these crazy times.  I'm hunkering down here in California; no one I know seems to be sick so that's a blessing.
Pisca Neep Freemish
 Gnome Archaeologist, 3537 posts
 The Gnome!
 And Her Imagination
Wed 25 Mar 2020
at 19:17
Re: Happy New Year!
We're something of an essential industry.  Petroleum products, and all.  So I'm still at work.  Don't know anyone sick, though.  And our office is on lockdown.  No walk-ins from the public.  We practice social distancing here.  Crossing our fingers. Knocking on wood.
Liseth Thoradin
 Human Oracle, 2999 posts
 Deluge of Positive Energy
 HP 42/42
Wed 25 Mar 2020
at 19:24
Re: Happy New Year!
My parents keep asking me to visit.  I'm like 'No there's an official global pandemic and it targets the elderly.  You two are 62 and 72.'

They dismiss it.  They're always watching propoganda brain poison on the TV so their sense of reality and what's happening in the world is completely broken.

But otherwise I am very comfortable hunkering down at home.  I have always loved days where I never need to get out of my pajamas.  Sort of naturally inclined to cozy in my burrow like a....not a badger.
Kellan Storval
 Human Fighter, 1457 posts
 Miniboss
Wed 25 Mar 2020
at 19:32
Re: Happy New Year!
I'm very busy, lots of mandatory OT. No days off in sight. But nothing too crazy going on, and the extra money is always nice.
Pisca Neep Freemish
 Gnome Archaeologist, 3538 posts
 The Gnome!
 And Her Imagination
Wed 25 Mar 2020
at 19:36
Re: Happy New Year!
Badgers!
The Raconteur
 GM, 3025 posts
 Teller of Tales
 Writer of Wrongs
Wed 25 Mar 2020
at 19:38
Re: Happy New Year!
Glad to hear you guys are doing well!  I do a lot of work from home anyway so there's not a ton different for me except that the courts are closed so there's less to do.

Three cheers for extra money, Kellan!  I guess we have a tidal wave of unemployment filings given the shutdown so gainful employment is always a plus.

Sorry to hear that about your parents, Liseth.  I hope they're staying in at least.

I'll cross my fingers for you too, Pisca.  :)
Cato Crispin
 Human Wizard, 1536 posts
 Quarterstaff Expert
Wed 25 Mar 2020
at 22:00
Re: Happy New Year!
Iíve gone to working full time at home, and the schools here are shut down, which has been...interesting. Second that brain poison on TV. My mom is in the exact same boat. She and all her friends watch the exact same news and forward me the strangest conspiracy theories.
Cato Crispin
 Human Wizard, 1537 posts
 Quarterstaff Expert
Sun 5 Apr 2020
at 15:31
Re: Happy New Year!
Has anyone else found theyíre gaming more now?  My one regular face-to-face game went online, and another irregular game I was hosting that we played 1/month is now weekly, and Iím playing in another weekly game as well. Plus, Iíve had some old friends randomly call to invite me to one-off games. My kids not having after school activities gives me a lot more free time. Silver linings, I guess.
Pisca Neep Freemish
 Gnome Archaeologist, 3539 posts
 The Gnome!
 And Her Imagination
Sun 5 Apr 2020
at 17:12
Re: Happy New Year!
Oddly, I've noticed that some of the games that I'm in have slowed down.
Liseth Thoradin
 Human Oracle, 3000 posts
 Deluge of Positive Energy
 HP 42/42
Sun 5 Apr 2020
at 18:13
Re: Happy New Year!
Second.  It feels odd to me that games on RPoL would slow down in the current situation, but that's what I've seen too.  I think lots of folks just aren't in the mood to play games like this, despite so many being stuck at home.  I had one person drop from my game because he was sick, another who posts very irregularly because of bad health.

Cato must be the exception who proves the rule!
Kellan Storval
 Human Fighter, 1458 posts
 Miniboss
Sun 5 Apr 2020
at 18:37
Re: Happy New Year!
I have one game that is running like wildfire, but yeah, all the others have slowed to nearly a halt.
Cato Crispin
 Human Wizard, 1538 posts
 Quarterstaff Expert
Mon 6 Apr 2020
at 03:54
Re: Happy New Year!
Maybe itís different in that mine arenít PbP but instead via Roll20 and voice chat.  I guess I could see both sides of the coin, but my gaming is one of the highlights of my week now. I love my kids and all, but spending all day with them and trying to work with them at home gets a little tiring after a few weeks.
Pisca Neep Freemish
 Gnome Archaeologist, 3540 posts
 The Gnome!
 And Her Imagination
Mon 6 Apr 2020
at 07:53
Re: Happy New Year!
I gotta say, watching the amount of time my sister-in-law spent with my nieces and nephews when they were growing up ...  Well, I have to hand it to her for the patience and dedication that she put in.  Can't argue with the results, though.  They are some amazing kids.
Cato Crispin
 Human Wizard, 1539 posts
 Quarterstaff Expert
Mon 6 Apr 2020
at 13:33
Re: Happy New Year!
In reply to Pisca Neep Freemish (msg # 441):

Yeah, I (mostly) enjoy spending time with the kids, but *most* of that time is usually having fun, especially on the weekends.  Going to museums, going to parks, going to a farm that does u-pick and has a big play area for the kids.  But now basically being stuck in the house with everyone 24-7 makes it a little different.  I suppose the one break my wife and I get is our exercise: I did a 13 mile run yesterday, which got me out of the house and alone in my thoughts for 3 hours, which felt good.

It's funny, because I've even seen some homeschooling parents offering consolations on Facebook.  Basically saying this is hard on them, too, since they're usually scheduling things like museum tours and suck like for their kids, and now all that is cancelled.
Pisca Neep Freemish
 Gnome Archaeologist, 3541 posts
 The Gnome!
 And Her Imagination
Mon 6 Apr 2020
at 13:53
Re: Happy New Year!
One thing that I observed is that kids are constantly demanding attention.  I suppose some are able to entertain themselves.  But that was not so with my nieces and nephews.  Part of the entertainment absolutely *had* to involve mom or dad.  So, even outside of *Events*, there was never any free time.

I don't know that I could do that.
Cato Crispin
 Human Wizard, 1540 posts
 Quarterstaff Expert
Mon 6 Apr 2020
at 15:11
Re: Happy New Year!
In reply to Pisca Neep Freemish (msg # 443):

Thatís incredibly variable from kid to kid. I think one of the benefits of having multiple children (maybe especially twins) is that theyíre able to entertain themselves, especially as they get older. But I have friends who put off having a second child for a long time because their first was so demanding. Even had one tell me his six year old was more work than his infant twins because, like you said, literally everything, even watching TV, had to involve a parent.

I think part of what we do is to kind of leave our kids be (for a reasonable period of time) if theyíre entertaining themselves and not causing trouble. If we have to step in, what we make them do might not be as much fun as what they would choose to do themselves. But thereís a certain amount of direct contact each one also needs, and you can tell if theyíre getting enough attention.
Cato Crispin
 Human Wizard, 1541 posts
 Quarterstaff Expert
Wed 8 Apr 2020
at 14:52
Re: Happy New Year!
Argh...starting rereading some of our old threads last night, and the next thing I know itís past midnight.
Liseth Thoradin
 Human Oracle, 3001 posts
 Deluge of Positive Energy
 HP 42/42
Wed 8 Apr 2020
at 17:07
Re: Happy New Year!
I know, right?  Happens to me all the time!
Kellan Storval
 Human Fighter, 1459 posts
 Miniboss
Wed 8 Apr 2020
at 17:10
Re: Happy New Year!
I'll admit I did go down the rabbit hole as well when we were discussing the potential resuming. :)
The Raconteur
 GM, 3026 posts
 Teller of Tales
 Writer of Wrongs
Wed 8 Apr 2020
at 17:22
Re: Happy New Year!
That can definitely happen!  It's hard to read only a few.

I'm glad both my kids are in high school; they can generally entertain themselves (although we're certainly hanging out more these days).  This whole lockdown thing would be much more difficult if they were, say, preschool or elementary school age.
Cato Crispin
 Human Wizard, 1542 posts
 Quarterstaff Expert
Wed 8 Apr 2020
at 20:25
Re: Happy New Year!
In reply to The Raconteur (msg # 448):

Preach it!

I think in some ways, we actually have it easier than our friends with 1 kids. Our kids all have friends in quarantine with them, and their ability to play with their siblings makes it that much easier for my wife and I to work. (Okay, weíre letting them watch a lot more TV, too.)
Cato Crispin
 Human Wizard, 1543 posts
 Quarterstaff Expert
Fri 10 Apr 2020
at 23:07
Re: Happy New Year!
Hey, anyone have time for a game?  I was thinking of running something, and instead of recruiting some random people, why not start with some of the best Iíve ever played with?
Pisca Neep Freemish
 Gnome Archaeologist, 3542 posts
 The Gnome!
 And Her Imagination
Fri 10 Apr 2020
at 23:11
Re: Happy New Year!
What did you have in mind?
Cato Crispin
 Human Wizard, 1544 posts
 Quarterstaff Expert
Fri 10 Apr 2020
at 23:14
Re: Happy New Year!
In reply to Pisca Neep Freemish (msg # 451):

I donít know. Ideally 5e as a system, though Iíd be willing to do Pathfinder.  Flexible on adventure design. I have some ideas brewing that I could pitch, but reading all our past posts has made me want to run a game. Maybe using one of the PF APs?  Or another classic adventure, like Red Hand of Doom or even one of the newer 5e adventures. Probably starting there, but allowing the party to branch off if they wanted to run off the rails eventually.
Pisca Neep Freemish
 Gnome Archaeologist, 3543 posts
 The Gnome!
 And Her Imagination
Fri 10 Apr 2020
at 23:34
Re: Happy New Year!
Well, I wouldn't mind.
Liseth Thoradin
 Human Oracle, 3002 posts
 Deluge of Positive Energy
 HP 42/42
Fri 10 Apr 2020
at 23:44
Re: Happy New Year!
Ooooh; what did you expect?  Of course I have time for a game!  RPoL has slowed down to a crawl in many of the things I'm doing here anyway.

GM Cato, huh?  I bet the game is dark and mysterious!
Pisca Neep Freemish
 Gnome Archaeologist, 3544 posts
 The Gnome!
 And Her Imagination
Sat 11 Apr 2020
at 10:15
Re: Happy New Year!
Anything you need from us to help you get started?
Cato Crispin
 Human Wizard, 1545 posts
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Sat 11 Apr 2020
at 12:00
Re: Happy New Year!
I should probably come up with a list of possible campaign ideas that I'd be interested running.  But you can help direct that interest.  Any kind of campaign you'd be particularly interested in playing?  Any of the Pathfinder APs or Wizards adventures you've been itching to try out?
Cato Crispin
 Human Wizard, 1546 posts
 Quarterstaff Expert
Sat 11 Apr 2020
at 13:07
Re: Happy New Year!
So, I've been thinking about this a bit more.  I think I'd probably only worry about levels 1-5 starting out, and I'd want something that had a pretty good share of (at least possible) RP versus combat, so that would rule out a dungeon-crawl.

Ideas for adventures:

Official WOTC Adventures:

Lost Mines of Phandelver (then leading into something else, like Red Hand of Doom?)
Curse of Strahd

Pathfinder AP:
Curse of the Crimson Throne
Carrion Crown
Strange Aeons

Any of those sound interesting?  I'm just looking at online reviews to figure out what APs sound like they might be good for online play.  I've played/run parts of some of those: LMoP, Carrion Crown and Strange Aeons.
Pisca Neep Freemish
 Gnome Archaeologist, 3545 posts
 The Gnome!
 And Her Imagination
Sat 11 Apr 2020
at 13:11
Re: Happy New Year!
My father used to say, Anything that makes you happy makes me happy.  That was never very helpful come Christmas or Birthday time, and, in its way, was infuriating.  That said, I had found myself about to say something very similar.

Seriously, though, it's not the material that makes the game.  It's the people and the writing and the imagination that they bring.  That's what makes a story.  Or so I've found.

But let me grasp for some straws and see what comes up in the handsful.  I've always liked a Victorian setting.  Or cowboys.  Pirates can also be fun.
Pisca Neep Freemish
 Gnome Archaeologist, 3546 posts
 The Gnome!
 And Her Imagination
Sat 11 Apr 2020
at 13:17
Re: Happy New Year!
Cato Crispin:
So, I've been thinking about this a bit more.  I think I'd probably only worry about levels 1-5 starting out, and I'd want something that had a pretty good share of (at least possible) RP versus combat, so that would rule out a dungeon-crawl.

Ideas for adventures:

Official WOTC Adventures:

Lost Mines of Phandelver (then leading into something else, like Red Hand of Doom?)
Curse of Strahd

Pathfinder AP:
Curse of the Crimson Throne
Carrion Crown
Strange Aeons

Any of those sound interesting?  I'm just looking at online reviews to figure out what APs sound like they might be good for online play.  I've played/run parts of some of those: LMoP, Carrion Crown and Strange Aeons.

Warning.  I've played a lot of Crimson Throne.  I've also played the first part of Carrion Crown ... possibly five times.  That AP seems to be cursed in that the games always seem to fall apart.  One observation about my many play-throughs of Carrion Crown, though, is that the various GM's always seemed alter things to make each game reasonably unique.  In a couple of cases, very pleasantly surprising.
Pisca Neep Freemish
 Gnome Archaeologist, 3547 posts
 The Gnome!
 And Her Imagination
Sat 11 Apr 2020
at 13:24
Re: Happy New Year!
Strange Aeons looks interesting.  I've always been a fan of Lovecraft.

But, would it be difficult to adapt the AP - any Pathfinder AP, for that matter - to 5E rules?  Or, is that not the intention?
Kellan Storval
 Human Fighter, 1460 posts
 Miniboss
Sat 11 Apr 2020
at 13:46
Re: Happy New Year!
Well this is a welcome surprise!

Dark and mysterious indeed.

I'll admit that Curse of the Crimson Throne has been on my list. Korvosa seems like a heady setting that you could go really deep with.

Likewise Carrion Crown with Ustalav could make for a darker, muddier sort of campaign.

I will also suggest Skull and Shackles as an option for this group in particular. With all the great interaction, dedication to NPCs and love of personal side quests a high seas adventure with the parties very own ship could be a lot of fun.
Cato Crispin
 Human Wizard, 1547 posts
 Quarterstaff Expert
Sat 11 Apr 2020
at 13:48
Re: Happy New Year!
In reply to Pisca Neep Freemish (msg # 460):

I've played a few 3.5/PF adventurers in my in-person game, and I haven't found it too hard.  I ran my players through Foxglove Manor (up-leveled, actually, because they were level 11) and did a modified Red Hand of Doom, substituting a different dungeon in for the Ghost Lord's tomb.  I also ran the last book of Kingmaker, replacing the nymph with Titania.

More or less, I'm not really using Pathfinder or 3.5 monsters.  I'm more using the APs to give me an idea of villains and motivations, and then building encounters using 5E rules (but having the battle maps is a big plus.)  It's seemed to work well.  Maybe it would be more fair to say I'm "inspired" by the APs rather than running an AP.
Cato Crispin
 Human Wizard, 1548 posts
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Sat 11 Apr 2020
at 13:49
Re: Happy New Year!
Yeah, Skull & Shackles could work well, too.  I omitted that because I had a campaign that failed, though it was 1-on-1 and did make it partway through Book 2, which as far as RPoL games go, might not actually be that much of a failure.
Cato Crispin
 Human Wizard, 1549 posts
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Sat 11 Apr 2020
at 13:50
Re: Happy New Year!
Re: Dark and Mysterious:

It wasn't until late last year I was watching "Once Upon a Time" and actually saw the character I'm using for Cato's portrait.  At the time, I just thought it was a good match for what I was envisioning for Cato.  Had no idea it was actually Captain Hook.  (Kellan's Skull and Shackles comment made me remember that.)
Pisca Neep Freemish
 Gnome Archaeologist, 3548 posts
 The Gnome!
 And Her Imagination
Sat 11 Apr 2020
at 13:56
Re: Happy New Year!
Well, whatever you go with, I'm up for it.
Kellan Storval
 Human Fighter, 1461 posts
 Miniboss
Sat 11 Apr 2020
at 15:27
Re: Happy New Year!
Same, I would encourage you to run something that you think you would really enjoy. I'm sure you will do a great job whatever you decide.
Liseth Thoradin
 Human Oracle, 3003 posts
 Deluge of Positive Energy
 HP 42/42
Sat 11 Apr 2020
at 18:35
Re: Happy New Year!
It really isn't that difficult to picture Pisca the Pirate!  She already has the bandanna.

I could not have less input about which AP you want to get your inspiration from Cato; I'm sure there's something you prefer over the others.  I haven't played any of them except for Runelords!  So it's all good to me.

This message was last edited by the player at 18:40, Sat 11 Apr.

Cato Crispin
 Human Wizard, 1550 posts
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Sun 12 Apr 2020
at 13:16
Re: Happy New Year!
Ok, after thinking about this more, I think I want to go with Strange Aeons.  Lovecraftian-inspired horror plus D&D is like chocolate and peanut butter!

I think running this in 5E will be easier than running it in Pathfinder - I've found 5E to be a little more rule-light than PF, but with interpretations of the class abilities, can still be fairly versatile in terms of representing different character concepts.

Look at the Strange Aeons Player's Guide, and think about the character concepts you might want to play.  When everyone has a character name in mind, I can start the new game and we can move the discussion there.  Keep in mind that you'll all be starting in a fugue state, with most of your memories wiped clean by the same misfortune that has destroyed Briarstone Asylum.  I think the character background will work best if you have some broad concepts of what your character was before they lost their memories, and then we can work on filling in the details during the course of play as your PCs recover their memories.

Racon, Hand of Fate, any interest in joining?
Kellan Storval
 Human Fighter, 1462 posts
 Miniboss
Sun 12 Apr 2020
at 15:54
Re: Happy New Year!
Strange Aeons sounds great. I've read just about all of Lovecrafts works over the years, and it will be a fun ride I am sure.

I don't own a single page of 5e stuff however. I'm not opposed to learning a "new" system persay, but it will definitely slow me down.

I was also not a fan of 4th personally, just far too simple and shallow for my taste, but I have not looked at 5e at all.

Maybe they have listened to the community and made some improvements.

This message had punctuation tweaked by the player at 15:54, Sun 12 Apr.

Pisca Neep Freemish
 Gnome Archaeologist, 3549 posts
 The Gnome!
 And Her Imagination
Sun 12 Apr 2020
at 16:39
Re: Happy New Year!
It's not hard.  I picked it up less than a year ago.  Liseth also just recently did too in a game we're both in together.  We'll all be more or less in the same boat.

I've skimmed the player's guide.  I like it.  Everything is so wide open now, though.  It's hard for me do decide on what to play.  So many possibilities.
Cato Crispin
 Human Wizard, 1551 posts
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Sun 12 Apr 2020
at 16:56
Re: Happy New Year!
5E is definitely a departure from 4E, probably closer to 2E/3E.  Really, I think it does a good job of grabbing the best features of all the version of D&D and making a game that's relatively fast and easy to play.  A lot of the basic rules are available for free online via a SRD at sites like https://www.5esrd.com/ or https://5e.d20srd.org/.  You can create a character using the basic rules at https://www.dndbeyond.com/.  If you make an account, I could actually share my account with you, because I've paid for an upgrade and can share my purchased materials with you all for character creation (like the complete PHB and Xanatar's Guide to Everything, which is basically a splatbook.)

5E is much lighter in character options than something like Pathfinder or 3/3.5.  You've got your basic classes, like Fighter, Barbarian, Cleric, Wizard, Sorcerer, Warlock, Bard, etc.  Each class has an archetype that it can choose from at 3rd level (in most cases, though a few classes, like Druid and Cleric choose earlier.). These archetypes are the primary choice you make, and they've added some, but basically there's a half-dozen choices for each class, which aren't really expanding as the game expands.  Most of what Wizards has published is setting/adventure guides.  Feats aren't really a big component of the character building process anymore; you can forgo an ability score increase to instead choose a feat, but it's not as extensive as it was in 3.5/PF.

For instance, take the Fighter.  The basic archetype for the Fighter is the Champion, which expands your crit range, gives you an additional bonus on some checks like jumping, etc.  In the complete PHB, there's additional archetypes like Battle Master and Eldritch Knight.  The Battlemaster gains "maneuvers" they can learn, like Trip Attack or Parry that expand their combat options.  The Eldritch Knight gives the Fighter some spellcasting ability they can combine with their martial attacks.
Cato Crispin
 Human Wizard, 1552 posts
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Sun 12 Apr 2020
at 17:08
Re: Happy New Year!
D&D Beyond also posted a bunch of New Playerís Guides. Some of them seem aimed at using D&D Beyond
specifically, but others are more about making a character for the first time.  I donít know if it matters, but D&D isnít run by Wizards, but theyíre a pretty close digital partner and seem to work closely with WotC.
Pisca Neep Freemish
 Gnome Archaeologist, 3550 posts
 The Gnome!
 And Her Imagination
Sun 12 Apr 2020
at 18:16
Re: Happy New Year!
Yeah!  You have a paid account.  I was telling Liseth about D&DBeyond.  But neither of us has a paid account, and without one it's pretty inadequate.

I'm not real keen on the Ideals/Bonds/Flaws/etc, though.
Cato Crispin
 Human Wizard, 1553 posts
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Sun 12 Apr 2020
at 18:40
Re: Happy New Year!
In reply to Pisca Neep Freemish (msg # 473):

I made a campaign on D&D Beyond. Hereís the link: https://ddb.ac/campaigns/join/10302811659077696

Yeah, I find the bonds/ideals/flaws sometimes helpful if I roll randomly and something seems interesting for the character concept I have in mind. But usually, I find if I already have a concept they can be superfluous. Also, itís never really come up in a campaign Iíve played in or run. So, maybe useful for sparking ideas for your character?
Kellan Storval
 Human Fighter, 1463 posts
 Miniboss
Sun 12 Apr 2020
at 19:35
Re: Happy New Year!
I am seeing some options here. Advancement type and Hitpoint type, some content options. I assume this can all be changed later?
Cato Crispin
 Human Wizard, 1554 posts
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Sun 12 Apr 2020
at 19:54
Re: Happy New Year!
In reply to Kellan Storval (msg # 475):

Yeah, you can toggle on and off additional content, change how you do XP and change how you do HP when you level up.  The defaults should all be okay.
Liseth Thoradin
 Human Oracle, 3004 posts
 Deluge of Positive Energy
 HP 42/42
Sun 12 Apr 2020
at 20:59
Re: Happy New Year!
I never realized just how many of the fantasy races feel inappropriate for a horror-style setting.  Well, that's probably just because horror stories usually don't include a menagerie of different races.

I'm starting to lean towards something traditional, like a Halfling Rogue.  Maybe I can give Pisca some right-sized companionship!
Cato Crispin
 Human Wizard, 1555 posts
 Quarterstaff Expert
Sun 12 Apr 2020
at 21:20
Re: Happy New Year!
Are there any fantasy-horror novels that have different races?  I can't think of any off the top of my head.  Maybe Warhammer Fantasy or 40K?  I haven't played enough of that to know.
Pisca Neep Freemish
 Gnome Archaeologist, 3551 posts
 The Gnome!
 And Her Imagination
Sun 12 Apr 2020
at 21:25
Re: Happy New Year!
Ever read any of the Mercy Thompson books by Patricia Briggs?  Set in modern day.  In fact, set only a few miles away from where I live in the Tri-Cities area of Washington State.  The main character is a Coyote skinwalker.  Werewolves, vampires, witches, the fey are all real.  They've been in hiding for centuries, and have only recently, Come Out, so to speak.

Fun bubblegum sort of stuff.  Easy reading.
Pisca Neep Freemish
 Gnome Archaeologist, 3552 posts
 The Gnome!
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Sun 12 Apr 2020
at 21:27
Re: Happy New Year!
And I'm pretty certain that Pisca would be completely inappropriate for this setting.  I think I might go human for this one.  Or, for a bit of irony, maybe a monster race, if such a thing is available.
Liseth Thoradin
 Human Oracle, 3005 posts
 Deluge of Positive Energy
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Sun 12 Apr 2020
at 21:47
Re: Happy New Year!
I don't know about a monster race: the player's guide warned about including exotic races.  They would take away from the mystery and horror theme of the setting.

I'm looking at the Inquisitive Rogue as a build path.  I like the idea of the Hard-Boiled Halfling Detective.  And the class path feels appropriate to the setting too.
Liseth Thoradin
 Human Oracle, 3006 posts
 Deluge of Positive Energy
 HP 42/42
Mon 13 Apr 2020
at 03:34
Re: Happy New Year!
Ooohh, maybe I'll be a gnome!  Turn the party dynamics on their head!

Or a half-elf!  5e gives them a lot of skills.

Really can't go wrong with human either.

Still leaning towards Rogue for class though.  Or maybe Paladin, I haven't made a Paladin in a while.  Or a Ranger!

Waaah!  Sudden onset decision paralysis!

Well, one thing I'm certain of is I don't want to be a primary caster.  I've done a lot of those lately.  So I do know that much!
Pisca Neep Freemish
 Gnome Archaeologist, 3553 posts
 The Gnome!
 And Her Imagination
Mon 13 Apr 2020
at 11:16
Re: Happy New Year!
I've been looking at 5E classes for the inspiration to build a Lovecraftian character.  I think I can fill either the Primary Caster or a Fighter roll at this point.  I'm shying away from Rogue/Detective.  I've played that too often.
Cato Crispin
 Human Wizard, 1556 posts
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Mon 13 Apr 2020
at 13:55
Re: Happy New Year!
Pisca Neep Freemish:
Ever read any of the Mercy Thompson books by Patricia Briggs?  Set in modern day.  In fact, set only a few miles away from where I live in the Tri-Cities area of Washington State.  The main character is a Coyote skinwalker.  Werewolves, vampires, witches, the fey are all real.  They've been in hiding for centuries, and have only recently, Come Out, so to speak.

Fun bubblegum sort of stuff.  Easy reading.

That's an interesting question.  How exactly do you define the horror genre?  Especially cosmic horror?  I'd argue just having vampires and werewolves isn't necessarily horror, depending on how its portrayed.  I read a few of the Anita Blake novels and most of the Sookie Stackhouse novels.  I don't think those are horror.  More supernatural-tinged investigation/romance.

Cosmic horror especially is about the horror of humans confronting the greater unknown, which might explain why so little of it features other races.  Because it could dull the impact of man confronting the unknown if elves, dwarves, etc all face it too.  Though, from a scientific point of view, if humans and elves can interbreed to produce fertile offspring, they're not really different species per se, right?  And dwarves aren't that much further away, because at least in some settings, human/dwarf hybrids are Muls, sterile like their namesake, but it implies a rather close connection between the two races.  Gnomes, being of fey ancestry, could be different.
Cato Crispin
 Human Wizard, 1557 posts
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Mon 13 Apr 2020
at 13:57
Re: Happy New Year!
In reply to Liseth Thoradin (msg # 482):

Paladins would interface interestingly with this AP.  Not as powerful as the PF Paladins with the huge bonuses to save against fear, which definitely seem to fly in the face of confronting cosmic horror, but still with some nice bonuses.
Pisca Neep Freemish
 Gnome Archaeologist, 3554 posts
 The Gnome!
 And Her Imagination
Mon 13 Apr 2020
at 14:24
Re: Happy New Year!
Yeah.  Those kind of books don't classify well as horror to me either.  Closer to fantasy adventure.  Though there are sections that attempt to evoke the fear associated with horror, those are mainly there to augment the Adventure side of things.

On a somewhat related note, ever read any Robert E Howard?  Creator of Conan the Barbarian?  As I understand, he was a contemporary of Lovecraft's,and they used to exchange correspondence.  You can see it especially in some of Howard's earlier Conan stories.
Cato Crispin
 Human Wizard, 1558 posts
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Mon 13 Apr 2020
at 15:34
Re: Happy New Year!
In reply to Pisca Neep Freemish (msg # 486):

I donít think Iíve ever actually read Howard. Iíve read some Jack Vance and Lieber.  Apparently Howard and Lovecraft had a disagreement over whether or not Conan could take on Cthulhu. I think the same is going to be true here. Although at low levels, heroes should be wary of Mythos gods and their servants, eventually they rival gods and can stand up to them.
Kellan Storval
 Human Fighter, 1464 posts
 Miniboss
Mon 13 Apr 2020
at 15:37
Re: Happy New Year!
Yeah, interesting conundrum.

I mean you take say, a "deep one" , yeah an average guy with a shotgun might be able to take on a super muscular fish man.

But an Elder God? Humans would be akin to chimps in a little corner of the jungle I would think. Interesting maybe, but never any true threat to the powers behind the curtain.
Pisca Neep Freemish
 Gnome Archaeologist, 3555 posts
 The Gnome!
 And Her Imagination
Mon 13 Apr 2020
at 15:42
Re: Happy New Year!
Fritz Leiber!  I remember the Fafhard and the Gray Mouser books!
Cato Crispin
 Human Wizard, 1559 posts
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Mon 13 Apr 2020
at 16:55
Re: Happy New Year!
In reply to Kellan Storval (msg # 488):

I mean, even in the canonical Lovecraft stories, like the Dunwich Horror, offspring of Yog-Sothoth are killed by a guard dog (for the more human one), and some small arms (for the less human one.)
Cato Crispin
 Human Wizard, 1560 posts
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Mon 13 Apr 2020
at 16:59
Re: Happy New Year!
In reply to Pisca Neep Freemish (msg # 489):

I read those!  I got on a big kick a year or so back.  Have you read Jon Peterson's Playing at the World?  Nonfiction, and honestly a bit dry, but a very exhaustive look at the evolution of the RPG hobby, tracing both the roots in fantasy fiction and kriegspiel-german type wargames through miniature wargaming and D&D.  But yeah, I read that, read some more of the "foundational" texts that Gygax used as inspiration, like Fafhard and the Grey Mouser.  It's interesting how the view of what constitutes D&D has changed from the early dungeons of the 70's to something like Critical Role today.
Oh!  I also went to PAX Unplugged in 2018 and 2019, and sat in one the some panels that discussed this same thing.  (And I got hooked on miniature painting, which is fun for my in-person settings but not getting a lot of use right now.)

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Cato Crispin
 Human Wizard, 1561 posts
Mon 13 Apr 2020
at 16:59
Re: Happy New Year!

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Liseth Thoradin
 Human Oracle, 3007 posts
 Deluge of Positive Energy
 HP 42/42
Mon 13 Apr 2020
at 21:00
Re: Happy New Year!
Cato:
Cosmic horror especially is about the horror of humans confronting the greater unknown, which might explain why so little of it features other races.  Because it could dull the impact of man confronting the unknown if elves, dwarves, etc all face it too.  Though, from a scientific point of view, if humans and elves can interbreed to produce fertile offspring, they're not really different species per se, right?  And dwarves aren't that much further away, because at least in some settings, human/dwarf hybrids are Muls, sterile like their namesake, but it implies a rather close connection between the two races.  Gnomes, being of fey ancestry, could be different.


Considering this, would it be better of we limited our selections for race?  The inter-racial dynamic is really a tertiary thing considering the style of adventure.

The more I think about it, the less small races like gnomes and halflings feel appropriate for playing in a horror setting.
Pisca Neep Freemish
 Gnome Archaeologist, 3556 posts
 The Gnome!
 And Her Imagination
Mon 13 Apr 2020
at 21:49
Re: Happy New Year!
As there are so many choices, I decided to go with more than one.  Throw them at the wall and see which one sticks, so to speak.  I'm not completely finished with the last one yet.  And these are all roughs.  I've thrown in some Our Earth history for flavor.  That, of course, will change with the setting.

What do you think?


Shiu Lin Zhao
Human
Monk (Way of the Mercy)

Hands of Healing
Hands of Harm
Face of an angel
Deadly charm.

Zhao Shiu Lin ranged in high society circles in the Shanghai of the 1920's.  She was reputed to have the gift of healing in her touch.  Among the Chinese, who prize long life, she was much sought after - for her beauty as well as her reputed talent.

In secret, however, she was an assassin for the Triads.


Ezra Chandler the Fire Starting Boy
Human or maybe Half Elf
Sorcerer (Phoenix Sorcery)

The youngest son in the Chandler Business Machines empire.  At the age of nine, he's said to have set his older sister on fire.  Since that time, he's been passed about in occult circles by his mother, an avid fan.  At 18 he has pale and wispy good looks.  Sharp enough of wit, he's subject to bouts of melancholy.  It's whispered that he is a homosexual.


Sir Terrance Carpatius Longley
Human
Fighter (Monster Hunter)

Terrance Longley earned a knighthood for <as of yet unfinished>
Liseth Thoradin
 Human Oracle, 3008 posts
 Deluge of Positive Energy
 HP 42/42
Tue 14 Apr 2020
at 05:01
Re: Happy New Year!
Wait, I thought the setting was still in Pathfinder's Golarion?  Isn't that where the AP is set?
Pisca Neep Freemish
 Gnome Archaeologist, 3557 posts
 The Gnome!
 And Her Imagination
Tue 14 Apr 2020
at 10:35
Re: Happy New Year!
Yeah.  I just used Our Earth for speed.  I would have to adapt the background to Golarion later.
Cato Crispin
 Human Wizard, 1562 posts
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Tue 14 Apr 2020
at 15:59
Re: Happy New Year!
In reply to Pisca Neep Freemish (msg # 494):

Thatís an interesting way of making characters. Is that your usual process?  It seems like it would be difficult to translate old earth to Golarion.
Pisca Neep Freemish
 Gnome Archaeologist, 3558 posts
 The Gnome!
 And Her Imagination
Tue 14 Apr 2020
at 16:34
Re: Happy New Year!
TTYTT, that's not my normal way of creating characters.  But, in this case, so many of my ideas have springboarded from the Lovecraftian setting, and a lot of that has connections with Our Earth history.  Personally, I don't think I'll have difficulty finding analogs in the Galorion world.  Or, find compromises.  The main idea is to put things down on paper - so to speak - and then refine from there.
The Raconteur
 GM, 3027 posts
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Tue 14 Apr 2020
at 16:52
Re: Happy New Year!
Wow, a new adventure!  This is exciting.  :)
Pisca Neep Freemish
 Gnome Archaeologist, 3559 posts
 The Gnome!
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Tue 14 Apr 2020
at 17:11
Re: Happy New Year!
Tempted to join?  ;)
The Raconteur
 GM, 3028 posts
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Tue 14 Apr 2020
at 17:25
Re: Happy New Year!
I am indeed!  I believe I even have a 5E PHB kicking around somewhere.  :)
Pisca Neep Freemish
 Gnome Archaeologist, 3560 posts
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Tue 14 Apr 2020
at 17:38
Re: Happy New Year!
Yeah!
Pisca Neep Freemish
 Gnome Archaeologist, 3561 posts
 The Gnome!
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Tue 14 Apr 2020
at 18:16
Re: Happy New Year!
These are fleshed out as far as I wish them to be.  Any more work would focus on only one of them, and be aimed at fitting into the campaign setting.

What do you think?  Any particular choice?  They're designed to plug into roles in the group.  Shiu Lin would be a healer - or backup healer.  Ezra would be the primary caster.  Sir Terrence would be a line fighter.  They're each also designed to have a dark side.  The better to confront that dark side when memory returns, and come out the better for it.

Sir Terrence, BTW, is very loosely based on Sir Richard Francis Burton.



Shiu Lin Zhao
Human
Monk (Way of the Mercy)

Hands of Healing
Hands of Harm
Face of an angel
Deadly charm.

Zhao Shiu Lin ranged in high society circles in the Shanghai of the 1920's.  She was reputed to have the gift of healing in her touch.  Among the Chinese, who prize long life, she was much sought after - for her beauty as well as her reputed talent.

In secret, however, she was an assassin for the Triads.  Using her sexual allure as well as a corruption of ancient mystic healing techniques for the purposes of murder and political gain.


Ezra Chandler the Fire Starting Boy
Human or maybe Half Elf
Sorcerer (Phoenix Sorcery)

The youngest son in the Chandler Business Machines empire.  At the age of nine, he's said to have set his older sister on fire.  Since that time, he's been passed about in occult circles by his mother, an avid fan.  At 18 he has pale and wispy good looks.  Sharp enough of wit, he's subject to bouts of melancholy.  It's whispered that he is a homosexual.


Sir Terrence Carpatius Longley
Human
Fighter (Monster Hunter)

Terrence Longley earned a knighthood for his exploration of the seven golden pyramids of the Khmer ancients.  A long-time member of the Royal Geographical Society, Sir Terrence is well known for his countless publications on topics from ethnography, to fencing, to modern sexual mores.  He's been said to be fluent in 23 different languages.

Less well know is that fact that he is the scourge of the local populace on three continents.  A side effect of his ambition is ruthlessness, and he's left a wake of native bodies in the pursuit of his goals.  It is even rumored that he has arranged for the death of a colleague - a white man - who held objections to his methods.  Nothing, however, could be proven.
The Raconteur
 GM, 3029 posts
 Teller of Tales
 Writer of Wrongs
Tue 14 Apr 2020
at 19:27
Re: Happy New Year!
I actually do have the 5th edition PHB!

Reading through the Adventure Path player's guide and the PHB, I've been struck by the concept of a charismatic Lore College Bard who simply has too much curiosity for his own good.  After all, how could simply knowing something be a bad thing?  What could *possibly* go wrong?  And then he ends up in an asylum . . . I can see his good-natured, somewhat-naive optimism severely challenged by story events.

He would be a support class, party face, and all-around knower of things.
Cato Crispin
 Human Wizard, 1563 posts
 Quarterstaff Expert
Tue 14 Apr 2020
at 19:34
Re: Happy New Year!
In reply to The Raconteur (msg # 504):

Not sure if you have my link to D&D Beyond.  I think you can read everything from the PHB, because it's part of my subscription in D&D Beyond, if you joined the game link I shared.  Check out this link: https://www.dndbeyond.com/sources/phb
The Raconteur
 GM, 3030 posts
 Teller of Tales
 Writer of Wrongs
Tue 14 Apr 2020
at 20:41
Re: Happy New Year!
It won't let me join the game with the character I created.  Hmm.
Cato Crispin
 Human Wizard, 1564 posts
 Quarterstaff Expert
Tue 14 Apr 2020
at 20:53
Re: Happy New Year!
Youíve got a level 1 bard in the campaign already. Maybe you can only have 1 at a time?
The Raconteur
 GM, 3031 posts
 Teller of Tales
 Writer of Wrongs
Tue 14 Apr 2020
at 20:57
Re: Happy New Year!
Oh, didn't realize he was already in.
Liseth Thoradin
 Human Oracle, 3009 posts
 Deluge of Positive Energy
 HP 42/42
Tue 14 Apr 2020
at 21:02
Re: Happy New Year!
You are SUCH a bard!

I've been looking at being a Rogue of the inquisitive specialty.  A detective skilled at sleuthing, snooping, sneaking, stealing, stabbing, shooting...I already designed this character on Beyond.  Considering Elf for the race.

Less the party face and more the party expert.  Don't know how much overlap that would have with a Lore Bard.  I'm still entertaining the idea of a more combat-focused character like a Ranger or Fighter though.  Maybe even a Cleric, but a lot more militant than Liseth ever was.
Pisca Neep Freemish
 Gnome Archaeologist, 3562 posts
 The Gnome!
 And Her Imagination
Tue 14 Apr 2020
at 21:05
Re: Happy New Year!
Hmmm.  Waiting to hear what Kellan has in mind.
Kellan Storval
 Human Fighter, 1465 posts
 Miniboss
Tue 14 Apr 2020
at 21:37
Re: Happy New Year!
Oh! Grigor!

Grigor is a big, somewhat portly middle aged native of Ustalav. With wavy brown hair and a dense beard down to his chest, he is thick limbed and a little world weary.

Although he does not know it, he was a well regarded family man back in his home village, where he had often been called up by neighbors to help with the various troubles that plauge the people of that land. He is drawing from Cossack, Streltsy and other Slavic concepts that parts of Ustalav seems to be inspired by.

Mechanically he is a Barbarian (A Lawful Good Barbarian! That's a first) with the Folk Hero background. With Bardiche in hand, he is hopefully planning on carving a swath back to his family. Potatoes and grain alcohol may or may not figure prominently in his off time.

This message was last edited by the player at 21:38, Tue 14 Apr.

Liseth Thoradin
 Human Oracle, 3010 posts
 Deluge of Positive Energy
 HP 42/42
Tue 14 Apr 2020
at 21:39
Re: Happy New Year!
Kellan the Barbarian!  It fits only too well.  I wonder of Grigor stomps things too?
Kellan Storval
 Human Fighter, 1466 posts
 Miniboss
Tue 14 Apr 2020
at 21:42
Re: Happy New Year!
There could very well be some stomping involved.

I also just noticed that Liseth has 42 hp! It's funny given she is so petite and frail. I have seen level 1 Fighters in other games with a fraction of that. I guess we did make it pretty far in Runelords all things considered.
Liseth Thoradin
 Human Oracle, 3011 posts
 Deluge of Positive Energy
 HP 42/42
Tue 14 Apr 2020
at 21:55
Re: Happy New Year!
Liseth isn't frail!  She has 12 Con.  Acceptably healthy!

Yeah, HP are a wierd extrapolation in games.  Sure you can imagine a high HP fighter taking hits on his armor and soldiering through, but a little priestess in a robe?  I try not to think about it too much.

This message was last edited by the player at 21:56, Tue 14 Apr.

Pisca Neep Freemish
 Gnome Archaeologist, 3563 posts
 The Gnome!
 And Her Imagination
Tue 14 Apr 2020
at 21:58
Re: Happy New Year!
Liseth Thoradin:
Kellan the Barbarian!  It fits only too well.  I wonder of Grigor stomps things too?

LOL!  So good.
Pisca Neep Freemish
 Gnome Archaeologist, 3564 posts
 The Gnome!
 And Her Imagination
Tue 14 Apr 2020
at 22:07
Re: Happy New Year!
So, looks like we have a Bard and a Barbarian.  Liseth is leaning toward, fighter or cleric.  Or a clerical fighter?  Something with degrees in accounting?

That pushes me in the direction of Ezra Chandler, the arcane fire starter.
Cato Crispin
 Human Wizard, 1565 posts
 Quarterstaff Expert
Tue 14 Apr 2020
at 22:16
Re: Happy New Year!
In reply to Pisca Neep Freemish (msg # 515):

One of the first few employees at TSR, Tim Kask, has a YouTube series called "Curmudgeon in the Cellar" where he talks about a bunch of D&D related stuff.  One of his hot button issues is apparently the treatment of HPs: as he sees them (and according to him, how EGG and others saw it) is not all the ability to take physical damage, but rather the ability to avoid damage in the first place.  (Otherwise, a 5th level fighter who had taken and recovered from near-mortal injuries several times would be a mass of scar tissue and be unable to move.)

Which makes a kind of intuitive sense, for most situations, though it gets hard to narrate effectively and make sure you're telegraphing what's actually a hit and what's an outright miss.  (Maybe you could use descriptions like "they just narrowly avoid the hit" and "your attack misses them entirely" to convey a hit vs a miss?)

There was one RPG, though I can't remember which one, that had two pools of "HP".  Or maybe it was a variant rule for 3.5?  In any case, you had a pool of actual HP equal to your Con, or something similar, and a much larger pool that worked like regular HP.  Some things, like a critical hit would affect your smaller pool, but in other cases your larger pool would be depleted first.
Cato Crispin
 Human Wizard, 1566 posts
 Quarterstaff Expert
Tue 14 Apr 2020
at 22:20
Re: Happy New Year!
In reply to Pisca Neep Freemish (msg # 516):

I think that was her secondary choice?  It sounds like its that or rogue.
Liseth Thoradin
 Human Oracle, 3012 posts
 Deluge of Positive Energy
 HP 42/42
Tue 14 Apr 2020
at 22:32
Re: Happy New Year!
Yeah, my first choice was Rogue.  Though with 5th edition I'm not sure how much overlap it has with Racon's spoony Bard.
Pisca Neep Freemish
 Gnome Archaeologist, 3565 posts
 The Gnome!
 And Her Imagination
Tue 14 Apr 2020
at 22:51
Re: Happy New Year!
Regardless, there's nothing else in the way of a major arcane caster.

Dang, or healer either.  Maybe I'll go with Shiu Lin.
Liseth Thoradin
 Human Oracle, 3013 posts
 Deluge of Positive Energy
 HP 42/42
Tue 14 Apr 2020
at 23:02
Re: Happy New Year!
Well, as the group comes together, I'm starting to lean more towards an armored class, something with a shield.  I keep getting new ideas running through my head.

You don't want to use Shiu Lin?
The Raconteur
 GM, 3032 posts
 Teller of Tales
 Writer of Wrongs
Tue 14 Apr 2020
at 23:13
Re: Happy New Year!
Bards look to be surprisingly-proficient casters in 5E.  There's no difference in the spell progression tables between Bards and Wizards, although I'm sure they have access to different types of spells.

I'm thinking of having Rikard be a younger son of one of the county counts of Ustalav.  Since his very youngest days he's been fascinated by the history of his homeland, convinced that the area is cursed, and a firm believer that arcane and occult knowledge is the key to dispelling that curse and returning the country to its former glory.

He's traveled widely, studied at various colleges, and has a good relationship with his elder brother, who uses Rikard's knowledge for his own ends.  Their father treats Rikard with benevolent neglect; he views Rikard's studies as reflecting well upon the family and if his younger son is successful in ridding Ustalav of its curse?  Well, that could only redound to the benefit of his family.
Pisca Neep Freemish
 Gnome Archaeologist, 3566 posts
 The Gnome!
 And Her Imagination
Tue 14 Apr 2020
at 23:15
Re: Happy New Year!
Liseth Thoradin:
Well, as the group comes together, I'm starting to lean more towards an armored class, something with a shield.  I keep getting new ideas running through my head.

You don't want to use Shiu Lin?

No, that was dang, we don't have this.  So, dang, I have to change my mind.  Again.  I'd be happy with any of them.
Pisca Neep Freemish
 Gnome Archaeologist, 3567 posts
 The Gnome!
 And Her Imagination
Tue 14 Apr 2020
at 23:17
Re: Happy New Year!
Well, as we have two male members, that's another nudge in Shiu Lin's direction.

So be it.  A character from distant Tian Xia.
The Raconteur
 GM, 3033 posts
 Teller of Tales
 Writer of Wrongs
Tue 14 Apr 2020
at 23:21
Re: Happy New Year!
I like Shiu Lin's character concept a lot.  If that makes any difference.  :D
Pisca Neep Freemish
 Gnome Archaeologist, 3568 posts
 The Gnome!
 And Her Imagination
Tue 14 Apr 2020
at 23:26
Re: Happy New Year!
The Raconteur:
I like Shiu Lin's character concept a lot.  If that makes any difference.  :D

It does.  Thank you.

Cato, would it be problematic for the adventure if Shiu Lin was a dark elf?
The Raconteur
 GM, 3034 posts
 Teller of Tales
 Writer of Wrongs
Tue 14 Apr 2020
at 23:26
Re: Happy New Year!
Liseth Thoradin:
I keep getting new ideas running through my head.


The struggle is real!
Cato Crispin
 Human Wizard, 1567 posts
 Quarterstaff Expert
Tue 14 Apr 2020
at 23:31
Re: Happy New Year!
In reply to The Raconteur (msg # 522):

Yeah, in the (formerly in-person, now real-time game on Roll20) we have a bard/rogue, a sorcerer/rogue, a wizard/warlock, a cleric/warlock, and a fighter.  The bard stands up well in comparison to the other casters, but yes, the casting list is a little different.  I think it's mostly illusion, healing, fear/charm effects.  Not as much evocation blasting magic.  However, Magical Secrets lets you eventually choose other spells to add to your list, and Lore bards get even more.  The bard in my game has Eldritch Blast, Toll the Dead, Healing Spirits, Counterspell, Contingency, and Divine Word for instance.  (Though they're level 16, so that's an extreme example.)
Liseth Thoradin
 Human Oracle, 3014 posts
 Deluge of Positive Energy
 HP 42/42
Tue 14 Apr 2020
at 23:51
Re: Happy New Year!
Hmm...maybe I'll do an Eldritch Knight.  I didn't realize that 5th has it as a Fighter kit instead of a separate Prestige Class.  It's always been a class that I like.

Okay, I need input from outside my own mercurial mind.  Between Rogue and Fighter (Eldritch Knight).  Any advice for fitting into the team?
Pisca Neep Freemish
 Gnome Archaeologist, 3569 posts
 The Gnome!
 And Her Imagination
Tue 14 Apr 2020
at 23:56
Re: Happy New Year!
Sorry, maybe you missed this question:  Cato, would it be problematic for the adventure if Shiu Lin was a dark elf?
Pisca Neep Freemish
 Gnome Archaeologist, 3570 posts
 The Gnome!
 And Her Imagination
Tue 14 Apr 2020
at 23:59
Re: Happy New Year!
Liseth Thoradin:
Hmm...maybe I'll do an Eldritch Knight.  I didn't realize that 5th has it as a Fighter kit instead of a separate Prestige Class.  It's always been a class that I like.

Okay, I need input from outside my own mercurial mind.  Between Rogue and Fighter (Eldritch Knight).  Any advice for fitting into the team?

I've always found that the Rogue/Investigator take a lot of work.  You're doing all the nit picky detailed things.  I tend to be fairly suited for it.  But it can get tiresome.  Eldritch Knight sounds fun.  Lots of BOOM.
The Raconteur
 GM, 3035 posts
 Teller of Tales
 Writer of Wrongs
Wed 15 Apr 2020
at 00:08
Re: Happy New Year!
In reply to Liseth Thoradin (msg # 529):

You can take a look at Rikard's sheet and see what you think.  He's got a lot of skills and a talent for investigation but no thieves-tool proficiency (or thieves' tools at all, but given that we start in an asylum I doubt we have our normal equipment.

I could see Rikard and your rogue working together pretty well as the more Fred-and-Daphne part of the team, figuring things out.  But Eldritch Knight sounds very cool too!
Liseth Thoradin
 Human Oracle, 3015 posts
 Deluge of Positive Energy
 HP 42/42
Wed 15 Apr 2020
at 00:11
Re: Happy New Year!
Hmmm, I really don't mind doing the little nit picky things; haven't played a rogue in a long while so I'm ready for those little details.

But also BOOM!  Eldritch Knight is a concept I've always enjoyed but have never been able to fully enjoy playing.  I'm really torn.

Hmm, Racon's spoony Bard is focused in Investigation already; so he's got those little details covered.  Has NO wisdom skills though.  Or tools...hmmm.  Yeah, I already stole a glance at your sheet.  Like a sneaky voyeur!

I'm torn, need to mill it around a bit and see what you guys have to say about it.  They are two drastically different play styles after all!  The rogue would be a Wood Elf, I already know that much.  The Elritch Knight...not so sure.  Maybe Human or Half-Elf.  For some reason the other races (Dwarf, Gnome, etc) feel less appropriate to the AP.
Liseth Thoradin
 Human Oracle, 3016 posts
 Deluge of Positive Energy
 HP 42/42
Wed 15 Apr 2020
at 00:19
Re: Happy New Year!
The Raconteur:
I could see Rikard and your rogue working together pretty well as the more Fred-and-Daphne part of the team, figuring things out.


I thought Velma was the one who figured things out!

This message was last edited by the player at 00:19, Wed 15 Apr.

The Raconteur
 GM, 3036 posts
 Teller of Tales
 Writer of Wrongs
Wed 15 Apr 2020
at 00:24
Re: Happy New Year!
Liseth Thoradin:
I thought Velma was the one who figured things out!


Daphne and Fred have their moments too!

WORK WITH ME HERE LISETH.
Cato Crispin
 Human Wizard, 1568 posts
 Quarterstaff Expert
Wed 15 Apr 2020
at 00:33
Re: Happy New Year!
In reply to Pisca Neep Freemish (msg # 526):

I suppose it would be okay.  I think most people in Golarion, from what I know of the setting, would be unfamiliar with Drow, and just view your character as an unusual elf.  Those who did know about Drow (perhaps sages, or those who had first-hand experience with them, maybe if the events of Second Darkness in Riddleport had happened?) would probably view the character with fear or suspicion instead.
Cato Crispin
 Human Wizard, 1569 posts
 Quarterstaff Expert
Wed 15 Apr 2020
at 00:34
Re: Happy New Year!
In reply to The Raconteur (msg # 535):

I would *love* to see the Scooby-gang taking on a bunch of Cthulhu cultists.
Pisca Neep Freemish
 Gnome Archaeologist, 3571 posts
 The Gnome!
 And Her Imagination
Wed 15 Apr 2020
at 00:37
Re: Happy New Year!
Ruh roh.
The Raconteur
 GM, 3037 posts
 Teller of Tales
 Writer of Wrongs
Wed 15 Apr 2020
at 00:39
Re: Happy New Year!
Cato Crispin:
I would *love* to see the Scooby-gang taking on a bunch of Cthulhu cultists.


And at the end it would all turn out to be the work of Mr. Ivanov from the local inn, trying to drive down property values.
Pisca Neep Freemish
 Gnome Archaeologist, 3572 posts
 The Gnome!
 And Her Imagination
Wed 15 Apr 2020
at 00:47
Re: Happy New Year!
What's the generation method for Abilities?
Pisca Neep Freemish
 Gnome Archaeologist, 3573 posts
 The Gnome!
 And Her Imagination
Wed 15 Apr 2020
at 01:11
Re: Happy New Year!
Hmm.  D&D Beyond lists all the racial languages but ... but none of the racial languages, if you know what I mean.  I guess Human is Human no matter what nation you're from.  There is no language for, for example, the Shou.
The Raconteur
 GM, 3038 posts
 Teller of Tales
 Writer of Wrongs
Wed 15 Apr 2020
at 01:17
Re: Happy New Year!
Looks like the Shou's on the other foot now!

Ahem.
Pisca Neep Freemish
 Gnome Archaeologist, 3574 posts
 The Gnome!
 And Her Imagination
Wed 15 Apr 2020
at 01:33
Re: Happy New Year!
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

huh?  ^_^
Cato Crispin
 Human Wizard, 1570 posts
 Quarterstaff Expert
Wed 15 Apr 2020
at 01:56
Re: Happy New Year!
In reply to Pisca Neep Freemish (msg # 540):

Use the point buy or the standard arrays. (Which I think are a subset of point buy).
Cato Crispin
 Human Wizard, 1571 posts
 Quarterstaff Expert
Wed 15 Apr 2020
at 01:58
Re: Happy New Year!
In reply to Pisca Neep Freemish (msg # 541):

I mean, we can assume Common is the common language of Ustalav. I wonder if I can create custom languages in D&D Beyond?
Cato Crispin
 Human Wizard, 1572 posts
 Quarterstaff Expert
Wed 15 Apr 2020
at 02:07
Re: Happy New Year!
A little googling found this:

On Character Sheet where it shows proficiencies and languages at the bottom of the box is a gear icon: click this. It opens a sidebar, at top of sidebar is "add new proficiencies" in the drop down choose languages. It creates a custom language called Custom Language, you can rename it and if wanted type in the source. Your character now knows this custom language.

I tested it out and it seems to work.
Liseth Thoradin
 Human Oracle, 3017 posts
 Deluge of Positive Energy
 HP 42/42
Wed 15 Apr 2020
at 02:58
Re: Happy New Year!
Alright, I've mulled it over and decided to go with my original Rogue idea.  As much as I like an Eldritch Knight, the concept is too close to the character I'm playing right now with Pisca in another game.  So I'm going to make a Wood Elf Rogue.  Probably use bows and ranged attacks when I can, and light weapons in melee otherwise.  Picking out those Sneak Attacks!

Name:  Luaralise (That way you can still call her Lise!)
Liseth Thoradin
 Human Oracle, 3018 posts
 Deluge of Positive Energy
 HP 42/42
Wed 15 Apr 2020
at 03:04
Re: Happy New Year!
Wait, am I the ONLY one whose Beyond account name is different than their RPoL account name?  Ruh roh.

Woosybird is an inside joke between me and my brothers.  Just to alleviate any confusion!  Or add to it.  Whichever.
Cato Crispin
 Human Wizard, 1573 posts
 Quarterstaff Expert
Wed 15 Apr 2020
at 10:53
Re: Happy New Year!
Is there some way to see everyoneís RPoL account name?  I was going to ask that to add you all in once you had characters done. For some reason, I thought it was secret from the other players, maybe because Iíve had GMs in other games whoíve deliberately shared it when a game folded in case the players wanted to stay in touch.
Liseth Thoradin
 Human Oracle, 3019 posts
 Deluge of Positive Energy
 HP 42/42
Wed 15 Apr 2020
at 11:20
Re: Happy New Year!
Well, looking again, I suppose Racon has a different Beyond name than his RPoL account name.  Since he used Racontuer there too.

I just know everyone's account name because you were all players in the game I GMed before; I don't think there's a way to see it if you aren't the player's GM.  The easiest way to invite everyone is just to link us the game and we can all send you an RTJ.  Then you add us from there.

This message had punctuation tweaked by the player at 11:21, Wed 15 Apr.

Pisca Neep Freemish
 Gnome Archaeologist, 3575 posts
 The Gnome!
 And Her Imagination
Wed 15 Apr 2020
at 11:23
Re: Happy New Year!
Alternately, you could rMail everyone through the link in the lower right below each character's portrait.  That will get to the Player and not the Character.

But that suggestion is mainly FYI.  I think Liseth's idea is the more efficient way to go about it.
Cato Crispin
 Human Wizard, 1574 posts
 Quarterstaff Expert
Wed 15 Apr 2020
at 11:46
Re: Happy New Year!
Okay, I've added Liseth/Lauralise because she already sent a RtJ.

Here's the link for everyone else:
link to another game
Liseth Thoradin
 Human Oracle, 3020 posts
 Deluge of Positive Energy
 HP 42/42
Wed 15 Apr 2020
at 11:50
Re: Happy New Year!
I'm sneaky that way!
The Raconteur
 GM, 3039 posts
 Teller of Tales
 Writer of Wrongs
Wed 15 Apr 2020
at 16:41
Re: Happy New Year!
You ARE sneaky, Liseth!

I've sent my RTJ for Strange Aeons, Cato.